I've never been to the Liberty bowl, but I've always thought it looked like a really cool stadium. The proposed changes look to be great enhancements; the angled suites in particular are very visually striking. I also generally like older stadiums as they hold a certain mystique about them (Fenway, Wrigley, Nippert, Rose Bowl, etc).

(05-12-2022 10:00 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-12-2022 09:55 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  

(05-12-2022 09:28 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(05-12-2022 09:27 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  

(05-12-2022 09:26 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  Congrats though

Meh. It's no OCS

I’m in construction and my concrete costs are up 35% in last six weeks. Take what you can get right now.

Don’t get me started on steel and labor.

In a perfect world (lol) I wanted Audobon Park. But I'm not a $$$ guy so my opinion means zilch. This is the next best thing.

I completely agree with you. But the more I look at these plans, the better I feel about it. They have taken a good deal of time and effort to put this together, and seemingly do it right.

Plus, if the city is our only assistance, we wanted a 40-45K seat stadium, and the city wanted it larger for the Liberty Bowl. We weren't going to have 2 separate stadiums, so I imagine the (half+) "new" LB will come in somewhere around 50K max.

according to the FAQ page on gotigersgo, yes the target is 50k.

(05-12-2022 10:12 AM)RuckleSt Wrote:  I've never been to the Liberty bowl, but I've always thought it looked like a really cool stadium. The proposed changes look to be great enhancements; the angled suites in particular are very visually striking. I also generally like older stadiums as they hold a certain mystique about them (Fenway, Wrigley, Nippert, Rose Bowl, etc).

having to play 2024 in a construction zone of a stadium is going to be a challenge though. fortunately the structure of LBS is very conducive to what is being planned. easy to gut and build back around. just by looking at the renderings the main new thing will be the west press/suites and east suites. the rest is not difficult.

Absolutely had to do it. Conference realignment spurring changes at Memphis, USF, etc just like it did for Houston and Cincy after the last go around. This will position them well for the future.

It is a shame that Memphis doesn’t own either of their major sports facilities but it’s not the end of the world.

(05-12-2022 10:29 AM)stxrunner Wrote:  Absolutely had to do it. Conference realignment spurring changes at Memphis, USF, etc just like it did for Houston and Cincy after the last go around. This will position them well for the future.

It is a shame that Memphis doesn’t own either of their major sports facilities but it’s not the end of the world.

its Memphis man. we NEVER do anything the way every one else does. its just different here.

(05-12-2022 10:19 AM)tigerjeb Wrote:  

(05-12-2022 10:00 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-12-2022 09:55 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  

(05-12-2022 09:28 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(05-12-2022 09:27 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  Meh. It's no OCS

I’m in construction and my concrete costs are up 35% in last six weeks. Take what you can get right now.

Don’t get me started on steel and labor.

In a perfect world (lol) I wanted Audobon Park. But I'm not a $$$ guy so my opinion means zilch. This is the next best thing.

I completely agree with you. But the more I look at these plans, the better I feel about it. They have taken a good deal of time and effort to put this together, and seemingly do it right.

Plus, if the city is our only assistance, we wanted a 40-45K seat stadium, and the city wanted it larger for the Liberty Bowl. We weren't going to have 2 separate stadiums, so I imagine the (half+) "new" LB will come in somewhere around 50K max.

according to the FAQ page on gotigersgo, yes the target is 50k.

Thanks, Jeb. I haven't had time to comb through all the details yet. Just seemed like a practical compromise.

(05-12-2022 10:37 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-12-2022 10:19 AM)tigerjeb Wrote:  

(05-12-2022 10:00 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-12-2022 09:55 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  

(05-12-2022 09:28 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  I’m in construction and my concrete costs are up 35% in last six weeks. Take what you can get right now.

Don’t get me started on steel and labor.

In a perfect world (lol) I wanted Audobon Park. But I'm not a $$$ guy so my opinion means zilch. This is the next best thing.

I completely agree with you. But the more I look at these plans, the better I feel about it. They have taken a good deal of time and effort to put this together, and seemingly do it right.

Plus, if the city is our only assistance, we wanted a 40-45K seat stadium, and the city wanted it larger for the Liberty Bowl. We weren't going to have 2 separate stadiums, so I imagine the (half+) "new" LB will come in somewhere around 50K max.

according to the FAQ page on gotigersgo, yes the target is 50k.

Thanks, Jeb. I haven't had time to comb through all the details yet. Just seemed like a practical compromise.

we live in a world where the amenities are more valuable than capacity

(05-12-2022 10:45 AM)tigerjeb Wrote:  

(05-12-2022 10:37 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-12-2022 10:19 AM)tigerjeb Wrote:  

(05-12-2022 10:00 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-12-2022 09:55 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  In a perfect world (lol) I wanted Audobon Park. But I'm not a $$$ guy so my opinion means zilch. This is the next best thing.

I completely agree with you. But the more I look at these plans, the better I feel about it. They have taken a good deal of time and effort to put this together, and seemingly do it right.

Plus, if the city is our only assistance, we wanted a 40-45K seat stadium, and the city wanted it larger for the Liberty Bowl. We weren't going to have 2 separate stadiums, so I imagine the (half+) "new" LB will come in somewhere around 50K max.

according to the FAQ page on gotigersgo, yes the target is 50k.

Thanks, Jeb. I haven't had time to comb through all the details yet. Just seemed like a practical compromise.

we live in a world where the amenities are more valuable than capacity

Yep. I was actually hoping for smaller. The U of M's original goal, maybe 40-45K. Makes all the seats more valuable, and looks better for PR purposes. It's hard to recreate the atmosphere of the 2019 SMU Game Day experience in a 60K seat stadium (or 59K, 58K, etc.) very often.

Especially when Ole Miss and Tennessee are too chicken to play us any more.

(05-12-2022 10:51 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-12-2022 10:45 AM)tigerjeb Wrote:  

(05-12-2022 10:37 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-12-2022 10:19 AM)tigerjeb Wrote:  

(05-12-2022 10:00 AM)TripleA Wrote:  I completely agree with you. But the more I look at these plans, the better I feel about it. They have taken a good deal of time and effort to put this together, and seemingly do it right.

Plus, if the city is our only assistance, we wanted a 40-45K seat stadium, and the city wanted it larger for the Liberty Bowl. We weren't going to have 2 separate stadiums, so I imagine the (half+) "new" LB will come in somewhere around 50K max.

according to the FAQ page on gotigersgo, yes the target is 50k.

Thanks, Jeb. I haven't had time to comb through all the details yet. Just seemed like a practical compromise.

we live in a world where the amenities are more valuable than capacity

Yep. I was actually hoping for smaller. The U of M's original goal, maybe 40-45K. Makes all the seats more valuable, and looks better for PR purposes. It's hard to recreate the atmosphere of the 2019 SMU Game Day experience in a 60K seat stadium (or 59K, 58K, etc.) very often.

Especially when Ole Miss and Tennessee are too chicken to play us any more.

I think 50K is about perfect. When UM gets in the P5 they will fill it up 90%+ most games.

The stadium looks awesome. A road trip when we are conference mates again is in my future.

This whole Memphis to the P5 thing is hilarious. Surely I can't be the only person who thinks this is hilarious.

BYU - Established 1922, 603-431-26, National Champions
Cincinnati - Established 1954, 385-369-12, BCS/NY6 Bowls Galore
UCF - Established 1996, 183-135-0, BCS/NY6 Bowls
Houston - Established 1949, 448-361-15, BCS/NY6 Bowls

Memphis - Established 1960, 340-349-8, Stomped by Penn State in one Cotton Bowl

Memphis athletics don't even come close to anything that the other schools have accomplished. Academically, they've been around since 1912 and are BARELY getting their R1 designation and have a 43% graduation rate. Objectively speaking, Memphis is one of the worst schools out there but somehow everyone seems to be functioning as if this isn't the case. Never say never, but ....never will Memphis be in the P5. I feel like Woody when everyone believes Buzz is an actual Space Ranger.

And start the UTSA sucks too comments. Yes UTSA sucks, I agree.
Cincy: Lebron
Houston: Dewayne Wade
UCF: Chris Bosh

Memphis: Mario Chalmers

Btw, the Liberty Bowl is not being redone in a vacuum. Liberty Park (on the old Fairgrounds site) is going up next door, and Phase 1, a giant multi-sports complex that can host Olympic trials and AAU basketball events under one roof (500 feet long, columnless, 74,000 sf), is scheduled to open in November.

Excerpt from Commercial Appeal: Currently approximately halfway through construction, the site of the old Mid-South Fairgrounds surrounding Simmons Bank Liberty Stadium is being re-energized into Liberty Park. Essentially creating a stadium district, Liberty Park will consist of a youth sports facility, named the Memphis Sports and Events Center, and also include entertainment venues, dining, retail, office space, two hotels and 150 apartments.

https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/m...668533001/

(05-12-2022 11:43 AM)UTSA_Alum Wrote:  This whole Memphis to the P5 thing is hilarious. Surely I can't be the only person who thinks this is hilarious.

BYU - Established 1922, 603-431-26, National Champions
Cincinnati - Established 1954, 385-369-12, BCS/NY6 Bowls Galore
UCF - Established 1996, 183-135-0, BCS/NY6 Bowls
Houston - Established 1949, 448-361-15, BCS/NY6 Bowls

Memphis - Established 1960, 340-349-8, Stomped by Penn State in one Cotton Bowl

Memphis athletics don't even come close to anything that the other schools have accomplished. Academically, they've been around since 1912 and are BARELY getting their R1 designation and have a 43% graduation rate. Objectively speaking, Memphis is one of the worst schools out there but somehow everyone seems to be functioning as if this isn't the case. Never say never, but ....never will Memphis be in the P5. I feel like Woody when everyone believes Buzz is an actual Space Ranger.

And start the UTSA sucks too comments. Yes UTSA sucks, but we aren't delusional about it.

Cincy: Lebron
Houston: Dewayne Wade
UCF: Chris Bosh

Memphis: Mario Chalmers

Established 1960? Try 1912. Not just academics. Football started in 1912, as well, lol.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memphis_Ti...in%202019.

And how do you BARELY attain R1 status?

Sounds like sour grapes to me. Or just a straight up poor troll job.

I imagine you've never set foot on campus, or know one damn thing about Memphis academics and achievements, other than running your big brave mouth on an anonymous message board.

P.S. You suck as a troll, too. Do more research. Apparently, reading is not your strong suit. Hell, you couldn't even get the Cotton Bowl scenario right.

I used sports-reference because it made memphis look slightly better lol. If you look at all time, the trend doesn't change much.


Memphis 516-527-33


Cincinnati 649-593-50
BYU 604-432-27
UCF 280-221-1
Houston 460-381-15

(05-12-2022 11:57 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-12-2022 11:43 AM)UTSA_Alum Wrote:  This whole Memphis to the P5 thing is hilarious. Surely I can't be the only person who thinks this is hilarious.

BYU - Established 1922, 603-431-26, National Champions
Cincinnati - Established 1954, 385-369-12, BCS/NY6 Bowls Galore
UCF - Established 1996, 183-135-0, BCS/NY6 Bowls
Houston - Established 1949, 448-361-15, BCS/NY6 Bowls

Memphis - Established 1960, 340-349-8, Stomped by Penn State in one Cotton Bowl

Memphis athletics don't even come close to anything that the other schools have accomplished. Academically, they've been around since 1912 and are BARELY getting their R1 designation and have a 43% graduation rate. Objectively speaking, Memphis is one of the worst schools out there but somehow everyone seems to be functioning as if this isn't the case. Never say never, but ....never will Memphis be in the P5. I feel like Woody when everyone believes Buzz is an actual Space Ranger.

And start the UTSA sucks too comments. Yes UTSA sucks, but we aren't delusional about it.

Cincy: Lebron
Houston: Dewayne Wade
UCF: Chris Bosh

Memphis: Mario Chalmers

Established 1960? Try 1912. Not just academics. Football started in 1912, as well, lol.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memphis_Ti...in%202019.

And how do you BARELY attain R1 status?

Sounds like sour grapes to me. Or just a straight up poor troll job.

I imagine you've never set foot on campus, or know one damn thing about Memphis academics and achievements, other than running your big brave mouth on an anonymous message board.

P.S. You suck as a troll, too. Do more research. Apparently, reading is not your strong suit. Hell, you couldn't even get the Cotton Bowl scenario right.

No idea, we are awful academically is probably why, however if you are referring to barely in the context of requirements, I actually meant the context of existence. How do you exist for 100 years and not get that sooner.

(05-12-2022 11:57 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-12-2022 11:43 AM)UTSA_Alum Wrote:  This whole Memphis to the P5 thing is hilarious. Surely I can't be the only person who thinks this is hilarious.

BYU - Established 1922, 603-431-26, National Champions
Cincinnati - Established 1954, 385-369-12, BCS/NY6 Bowls Galore
UCF - Established 1996, 183-135-0, BCS/NY6 Bowls
Houston - Established 1949, 448-361-15, BCS/NY6 Bowls

Memphis - Established 1960, 340-349-8, Stomped by Penn State in one Cotton Bowl

Memphis athletics don't even come close to anything that the other schools have accomplished. Academically, they've been around since 1912 and are BARELY getting their R1 designation and have a 43% graduation rate. Objectively speaking, Memphis is one of the worst schools out there but somehow everyone seems to be functioning as if this isn't the case. Never say never, but ....never will Memphis be in the P5. I feel like Woody when everyone believes Buzz is an actual Space Ranger.

And start the UTSA sucks too comments. Yes UTSA sucks, but we aren't delusional about it.

Cincy: Lebron
Houston: Dewayne Wade
UCF: Chris Bosh

Memphis: Mario Chalmers

Established 1960? Try 1912. Not just academics. Football started in 1912, as well, lol.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memphis_Ti...in%202019.

And how do you BARELY attain R1 status?

Sounds like sour grapes to me. Or just a straight up poor troll job.

I imagine you've never set foot on campus, or know one damn thing about Memphis academics and achievements, other than running your big brave mouth on an anonymous message board.

P.S. You suck as a troll, too. Do more research. Apparently, reading is not your strong suit. Hell, you couldn't even get the Cotton Bowl scenario right.

Let me correct some Cincy info as well:

University of Cincinnati founded in 1819
University of Cincinnati football established in 1885 with the state of Ohio's first intercollegiate game against Miami U in 1887.

(05-12-2022 12:12 PM)natibeast2.0 Wrote:  

(05-12-2022 11:57 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-12-2022 11:43 AM)UTSA_Alum Wrote:  This whole Memphis to the P5 thing is hilarious. Surely I can't be the only person who thinks this is hilarious.

BYU - Established 1922, 603-431-26, National Champions
Cincinnati - Established 1954, 385-369-12, BCS/NY6 Bowls Galore
UCF - Established 1996, 183-135-0, BCS/NY6 Bowls
Houston - Established 1949, 448-361-15, BCS/NY6 Bowls

Memphis - Established 1960, 340-349-8, Stomped by Penn State in one Cotton Bowl

Memphis athletics don't even come close to anything that the other schools have accomplished. Academically, they've been around since 1912 and are BARELY getting their R1 designation and have a 43% graduation rate. Objectively speaking, Memphis is one of the worst schools out there but somehow everyone seems to be functioning as if this isn't the case. Never say never, but ....never will Memphis be in the P5. I feel like Woody when everyone believes Buzz is an actual Space Ranger.

And start the UTSA sucks too comments. Yes UTSA sucks, but we aren't delusional about it.

Cincy: Lebron
Houston: Dewayne Wade
UCF: Chris Bosh

Memphis: Mario Chalmers

Established 1960? Try 1912. Not just academics. Football started in 1912, as well, lol.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memphis_Ti...in%202019.

And how do you BARELY attain R1 status?

Sounds like sour grapes to me. Or just a straight up poor troll job.

I imagine you've never set foot on campus, or know one damn thing about Memphis academics and achievements, other than running your big brave mouth on an anonymous message board.

P.S. You suck as a troll, too. Do more research. Apparently, reading is not your strong suit. Hell, you couldn't even get the Cotton Bowl scenario right.

Let me correct some Cincy info as well:

University of Cincinnati founded in 1819
University of Cincinnati football established in 1885 with the state of Ohio's first intercollegiate game against Miami U in 1887.

I prefer the dates Sports-Reference has listed because they do a decent job of establishing the start date when it can be somewhat comparable. A lot of the games that happened before that date aren't exactly equal to the divisions we have now.

(05-12-2022 11:43 AM)UTSA_Alum Wrote:  This whole Memphis to the P5 thing is hilarious. Surely I can't be the only person who thinks this is hilarious.

BYU - Established 1922, 603-431-26, National Champions
Cincinnati - Established 1954, 385-369-12, BCS/NY6 Bowls Galore
UCF - Established 1996, 183-135-0, BCS/NY6 Bowls
Houston - Established 1949, 448-361-15, BCS/NY6 Bowls

Memphis - Established 1960, 340-349-8, Stomped by Penn State in one Cotton Bowl

Memphis athletics don't even come close to anything that the other schools have accomplished. Academically, they've been around since 1912 and are BARELY getting their R1 designation and have a 43% graduation rate. Objectively speaking, Memphis is one of the worst schools out there but somehow everyone seems to be functioning as if this isn't the case. Never say never, but ....never will Memphis be in the P5. I feel like Woody when everyone believes Buzz is an actual Space Ranger.

And start the UTSA sucks too comments. Yes UTSA sucks, I agree.
Cincy: Lebron
Houston: Dewayne Wade
UCF: Chris Bosh

Memphis: Mario Chalmers

The truth is The University of Memphis has a major chance at getting a Big 12 invite in the near future. If you follow sports and do research you can see this being almost inevitable.

However you know what's not inevitable?
UTSA getting a offer to join a P5

I know it must be frustrating to get into a conference that has all of its good teams leaving (been there) but relax. We all know you just can't stand the thought of also losing us <3

You're new here so welcome, we have tons of people who can educate you on this board!

(05-12-2022 12:16 PM)grapes Wrote:  

(05-12-2022 11:43 AM)UTSA_Alum Wrote:  This whole Memphis to the P5 thing is hilarious. Surely I can't be the only person who thinks this is hilarious.

BYU - Established 1922, 603-431-26, National Champions
Cincinnati - Established 1954, 385-369-12, BCS/NY6 Bowls Galore
UCF - Established 1996, 183-135-0, BCS/NY6 Bowls
Houston - Established 1949, 448-361-15, BCS/NY6 Bowls

Memphis - Established 1960, 340-349-8, Stomped by Penn State in one Cotton Bowl

Memphis athletics don't even come close to anything that the other schools have accomplished. Academically, they've been around since 1912 and are BARELY getting their R1 designation and have a 43% graduation rate. Objectively speaking, Memphis is one of the worst schools out there but somehow everyone seems to be functioning as if this isn't the case. Never say never, but ....never will Memphis be in the P5. I feel like Woody when everyone believes Buzz is an actual Space Ranger.

And start the UTSA sucks too comments. Yes UTSA sucks, I agree.
Cincy: Lebron
Houston: Dewayne Wade
UCF: Chris Bosh

Memphis: Mario Chalmers

The truth is The University of Memphis has a major chance at getting a Big 12 invite in the near future. If you follow sports and do research you can see this being almost inevitable.

However you know what's not inevitable?
UTSA getting a offer to join a P5

I know it must be frustrating to get into a conference that has all of its good teams leaving (been there) but relax. We all know you just can't stand the thought of also losing us <3

You're new here so welcome, we have tons of people who can educate you on this board!

I follow college football religiously, and I would be willing to bet my life on the fact that Memphis will not be P5 if my lifetime. I'm 33, so assuming I don't check out early, that would be another 42 years.

I guess I'll need to include this in my signature, but I don't care what league UTSA joins. All I can say for them so far, is they haven't been left behind yet. So far the only thing I've seen on this board is delusion about being p6 but that has cooled off quite a bit which is amusing.

Again, UTSA's existence has nothing to do with my opinion of Memphis.

The goal is to make the Tigers more attractive to the B12. I assume (although I have no evidence) that the improvement meet the B12 requirements. Otherwise, it is a colossal waste of money.

(05-12-2022 12:16 PM)grapes Wrote:  

(05-12-2022 11:43 AM)UTSA_Alum Wrote:  This whole Memphis to the P5 thing is hilarious. Surely I can't be the only person who thinks this is hilarious.

BYU - Established 1922, 603-431-26, National Champions
Cincinnati - Established 1954, 385-369-12, BCS/NY6 Bowls Galore
UCF - Established 1996, 183-135-0, BCS/NY6 Bowls
Houston - Established 1949, 448-361-15, BCS/NY6 Bowls

Memphis - Established 1960, 340-349-8, Stomped by Penn State in one Cotton Bowl

Memphis athletics don't even come close to anything that the other schools have accomplished. Academically, they've been around since 1912 and are BARELY getting their R1 designation and have a 43% graduation rate. Objectively speaking, Memphis is one of the worst schools out there but somehow everyone seems to be functioning as if this isn't the case. Never say never, but ....never will Memphis be in the P5. I feel like Woody when everyone believes Buzz is an actual Space Ranger.

And start the UTSA sucks too comments. Yes UTSA sucks, I agree.
Cincy: Lebron
Houston: Dewayne Wade
UCF: Chris Bosh

Memphis: Mario Chalmers

The truth is The University of Memphis has a major chance at getting a Big 12 invite in the near future. If you follow sports and do research you can see this being almost inevitable.

However you know what's not inevitable?
UTSA getting a offer to join a P5

I know it must be frustrating to get into a conference that has all of its good teams leaving (been there) but relax. We all know you just can't stand the thought of also losing us <3

You're new here so welcome, we have tons of people who can educate you on this board!

I don't find getting into a conference that has the best teams leaving frustrating, but I can see how being left behind in that conference would be.