(05-04-2022 02:31 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  So after the Ole Miss game it was the upper classmen who were sabotaging the team and now it is the super freshman who is sabotaging the program.

Is every player out to get him?

And a player who choose to transfer in and walk on just to be on the team is told to take a hike.

If this was any other previous Tiger coach most of you would be questioning his fitness to be the coach.

I’m sorry Pastner is no longer our coach

(05-04-2022 02:31 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  So after the Ole Miss game it was the upper classmen who were sabotaging the team and now it is the super freshman who is sabotaging the program.

Is every player out to get him?

And a player who choose to transfer in and walk on just to be on the team is told to take a hike.

If this was any other previous Tiger coach most of you would be questioning his fitness to be the coach.

You ever get that grocery delivery guy straightened out?

(05-04-2022 03:06 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(05-04-2022 02:49 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(05-04-2022 02:46 PM)2tigers Wrote:  UnLouisville will be the winner.

So who's going to get Jr.....

Why would you care?

Wondering if he was in-play here, since his father played here

(05-04-2022 04:54 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(05-04-2022 03:06 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(05-04-2022 02:49 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(05-04-2022 02:46 PM)2tigers Wrote:  UnLouisville will be the winner.

So who's going to get Jr.....

Why would you care?

Wondering is he was in-play here, since his father played here

In play to leave?

(05-04-2022 06:00 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(05-04-2022 04:54 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(05-04-2022 03:06 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(05-04-2022 02:49 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(05-04-2022 02:46 PM)2tigers Wrote:  UnLouisville will be the winner.

So who's going to get Jr.....

Why would you care?

Wondering is he was in-play here, since his father played here

In play to leave?

I believe he’s referring to those Camden fellers

(05-04-2022 06:03 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(05-04-2022 06:00 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(05-04-2022 04:54 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(05-04-2022 03:06 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(05-04-2022 02:49 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  So who's going to get Jr.....

Why would you care?

Wondering is he was in-play here, since his father played here

In play to leave?

I believe he’s referring to those Camden fellers

(05-04-2022 02:46 PM)2tigers Wrote:  Louisville will be the winner.

Or loser, depending on your point of view.

(05-04-2022 10:44 AM)daniel2023 Wrote:  Michigan doesn't want Emoni... it's clear now he's in over his head, and it's extremely questionable whether he has the humility/disciple to buckle down and improve.

If Emoni was the primary cancer (which is becoming evident), last year without him could have resulted in more wins/better seeding.

The members of this board have got to make up their minds one way or the other.

When he was out and someone mentioned the team played better without him the hand of God came crashing down on that poster.

How dare they make a statement about a Tiger player.

When he left and went home he was still protected from any negative comments.

It was unforgivable to say anything about a player and it is his life we had no business commenting.

So suddenly because he is supposedly on the outs with Penny he is now fair game.

At least be consistent.

I was one of the few that looked at the team with him and without him and thought he was a problem early on.

But saying so was frowned upon until according to a third party, Penny said the same thing.

I personally do not care what your position is on Bates either pro or con.

But enough of the hypocrisy that is being exhibited on the page.

Pick a position and stick with it instead of changing it to be in line with what certain others believe at the time.

(05-05-2022 06:49 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-04-2022 10:44 AM)daniel2023 Wrote:  Michigan doesn't want Emoni... it's clear now he's in over his head, and it's extremely questionable whether he has the humility/disciple to buckle down and improve.

If Emoni was the primary cancer (which is becoming evident), last year without him could have resulted in more wins/better seeding.

The members of this board have got to make up their minds one way or the other.

When he was out and someone mentioned the team played better without him the hand of God came crashing down on that poster.

How dare they make a statement about a Tiger player.

When he left and went home he was still protected from any negative comments.

It was unforgivable to say anything about a player and it is his life we had no business commenting.

So suddenly because he is supposedly on the outs with Penny he is now fair game.

At least be consistent.

I was one of the few that looked at the team with him and without him and thought he was a problem early on.

But saying so was frowned upon until according to a third party, Penny said the same thing.

I personally do not care what your position is on Bates either pro or con.

But enough of the hypocrisy that is being exhibited on the page.

Pick a position and stick with it instead of changing it to be in line with what certain others believe at the time.

Okay left turns

(05-04-2022 06:07 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(05-04-2022 06:03 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(05-04-2022 06:00 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(05-04-2022 04:54 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(05-04-2022 03:06 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  Why would you care?

Wondering is he was in-play here, since his father played here

In play to leave?

I believe he’s referring to those Camden fellers

I see. Typically when someone mentions JR they are referring to Jayden. Which is why I asked.

(05-05-2022 06:49 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-04-2022 10:44 AM)daniel2023 Wrote:  Michigan doesn't want Emoni... it's clear now he's in over his head, and it's extremely questionable whether he has the humility/disciple to buckle down and improve.

If Emoni was the primary cancer (which is becoming evident), last year without him could have resulted in more wins/better seeding.

The members of this board have got to make up their minds one way or the other.

When he was out and someone mentioned the team played better without him the hand of God came crashing down on that poster.

How dare they make a statement about a Tiger player.

When he left and went home he was still protected from any negative comments.

It was unforgivable to say anything about a player and it is his life we had no business commenting.

So suddenly because he is supposedly on the outs with Penny he is now fair game.

At least be consistent.

I was one of the few that looked at the team with him and without him and thought he was a problem early on.

But saying so was frowned upon until according to a third party, Penny said the same thing.

I personally do not care what your position is on Bates either pro or con.

But enough of the hypocrisy that is being exhibited on the page.

Pick a position and stick with it instead of changing it to be in line with what certain others believe at the time.

Lol, I never made any public statements on Emoni, just watched/waited. But go ahead and believe your conspiracy theories.

(05-05-2022 07:07 AM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  

(05-05-2022 06:49 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-04-2022 10:44 AM)daniel2023 Wrote:  Michigan doesn't want Emoni... it's clear now he's in over his head, and it's extremely questionable whether he has the humility/disciple to buckle down and improve.

If Emoni was the primary cancer (which is becoming evident), last year without him could have resulted in more wins/better seeding.

The members of this board have got to make up their minds one way or the other.

When he was out and someone mentioned the team played better without him the hand of God came crashing down on that poster.

How dare they make a statement about a Tiger player.

When he left and went home he was still protected from any negative comments.

It was unforgivable to say anything about a player and it is his life we had no business commenting.

So suddenly because he is supposedly on the outs with Penny he is now fair game.

At least be consistent.

I was one of the few that looked at the team with him and without him and thought he was a problem early on.

But saying so was frowned upon until according to a third party, Penny said the same thing.

I personally do not care what your position is on Bates either pro or con.

But enough of the hypocrisy that is being exhibited on the page.

Pick a position and stick with it instead of changing it to be in line with what certain others believe at the time.

Okay left turns

yep and he also likes fake rasslin' where half naked, oiled up guys rub and grab all over each other.

Interesting read

https://www.cardchronicle.com/2022/5/4/2...a3gKhXiQMQ

(05-05-2022 06:49 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-04-2022 10:44 AM)daniel2023 Wrote:  Michigan doesn't want Emoni... it's clear now he's in over his head, and it's extremely questionable whether he has the humility/disciple to buckle down and improve.

If Emoni was the primary cancer (which is becoming evident), last year without him could have resulted in more wins/better seeding.

The members of this board have got to make up their minds one way or the other.

When he was out and someone mentioned the team played better without him the hand of God came crashing down on that poster.

How dare they make a statement about a Tiger player.

When he left and went home he was still protected from any negative comments.

It was unforgivable to say anything about a player and it is his life we had no business commenting.

So suddenly because he is supposedly on the outs with Penny he is now fair game.

At least be consistent.

I was one of the few that looked at the team with him and without him and thought he was a problem early on.

But saying so was frowned upon until according to a third party, Penny said the same thing.

I personally do not care what your position is on Bates either pro or con.

But enough of the hypocrisy that is being exhibited on the page.

Pick a position and stick with it instead of changing it to be in line with what certain others believe at the time.

Well... I criticized him back when he was still on the team. As soon as I saw him cough up the ball a couple times in traffic, I said he's nothing special.

(05-04-2022 11:40 AM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(05-04-2022 11:33 AM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  

(05-04-2022 11:00 AM)Unionman76 Wrote:  

(05-04-2022 10:13 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  What is his complete list of schools?

I know he has Eastern Michigan and DePaul...maybe Michigan...

Emoni Bates announced on Instagram Monday night that he has narrowed his list down to six schools, and the University of Michigan is one of them. Eastern Michigan, Arkansas, Seton Hall, DePaul and Louisville round out his top six.

Word is Michigan is out and he wants to go to Louisville

More than likely, JH reached out to PH to discuss the circumstances.....Very telling when a "major" talent is NOT welcomed in his own/home state
Let the rivalry begin again

I hope that didn't happen. Would be highly hypocritical to tell the kid to take a hike because you believe he was bad mouthing you to other recruits. Then turn around and bad mouth him to other coaches.

(05-05-2022 09:29 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-04-2022 11:40 AM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(05-04-2022 11:33 AM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  

(05-04-2022 11:00 AM)Unionman76 Wrote:  

(05-04-2022 10:13 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  What is his complete list of schools?

I know he has Eastern Michigan and DePaul...maybe Michigan...

Emoni Bates announced on Instagram Monday night that he has narrowed his list down to six schools, and the University of Michigan is one of them. Eastern Michigan, Arkansas, Seton Hall, DePaul and Louisville round out his top six.

Word is Michigan is out and he wants to go to Louisville

More than likely, JH reached out to PH to discuss the circumstances.....Very telling when a "major" talent is NOT welcomed in his own/home state
Let the rivalry begin again

I hope that didn't happen. Would be highly hypocritical to tell the kid to take a hike because you believe he was bad mouthing you to other recruits. Then turn around and bad mouth him to other coaches.

I wouldn’t consider getting honest but negative input from another coach “bad mouthing”, if that’s what happened. Coaches need cred too. And I remember him getting beat up pretty good on here. We’d beat up on Santa Claus if he put on a Memphis uniform.

(05-05-2022 08:55 AM)Irse Wrote:  Interesting read

https://www.cardchronicle.com/2022/5/4/2...a3gKhXiQMQ

Interesting. Except that given how Emoni sabotaged the team, I don't see any way that Penny comes out looking bad-except possibly for projecting him as a 6-9 point guard.

Good luck to the young man.

(05-05-2022 09:40 AM)holyterror Wrote:  

(05-05-2022 08:55 AM)Irse Wrote:  Interesting read

https://www.cardchronicle.com/2022/5/4/2...a3gKhXiQMQ

Interesting. Except that given how Emoni sabotaged the team, I don't see any way that Penny comes out looking bad-except possibly for projecting him as a 6-9 point guard.

Good luck to the young man.

I didn't realize how controlling the dad was of Emoni's basketball career. Especially to the point of forming a school of 12 students. Seems worse than LaVar Ball. Good luck to him, he'll need it.

(05-05-2022 11:06 AM)Irse Wrote:  

(05-05-2022 09:40 AM)holyterror Wrote:  

(05-05-2022 08:55 AM)Irse Wrote:  Interesting read

https://www.cardchronicle.com/2022/5/4/2...a3gKhXiQMQ

Interesting. Except that given how Emoni sabotaged the team, I don't see any way that Penny comes out looking bad-except possibly for projecting him as a 6-9 point guard.

Good luck to the young man.

I didn't realize how controlling the dad was of Emoni's basketball career. Especially to the point of forming a school of 12 students. Seems worse than LaVar Ball. Good luck to him, he'll need it.

Yep, when we were recruiting him I felt like it was a HUGE red flag. The father has made very poor decisions that effected Bates development. As a sophomore he was supposed to be the next Durant or Lebron. He fell off hard with all of his dad's meddling.

(05-05-2022 11:08 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(05-05-2022 11:06 AM)Irse Wrote:  

(05-05-2022 09:40 AM)holyterror Wrote:  

(05-05-2022 08:55 AM)Irse Wrote:  Interesting read

https://www.cardchronicle.com/2022/5/4/2...a3gKhXiQMQ

Interesting. Except that given how Emoni sabotaged the team, I don't see any way that Penny comes out looking bad-except possibly for projecting him as a 6-9 point guard.

Good luck to the young man.

I didn't realize how controlling the dad was of Emoni's basketball career. Especially to the point of forming a school of 12 students. Seems worse than LaVar Ball. Good luck to him, he'll need it.

Yep, when we were recruiting him I felt like it was a HUGE red flag. The father has made very poor decisions that effected Bates development. As a sophomore he was supposed to be the next Durant or Lebron. He fell off hard with all of his dad's meddling.

In all fairness, having a child projected to be the next Magic, Michael, LeBron by SI at such a young age isn't territory that parents can predict or be ready for. How do you know who to trust? How do you navigate such an unusual situation. Fine line between protecting him and suffocating him to the point of stunting growth. Tough. As a parent you can only research, take the info at hand and make decisions with the best interest at heart. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Hopefully dad is trying to help Emoni, not being selfish in some sort of way.

But there is NO excuse for blaming others for not (yet) living up to the hype. Keep your head down. Keep grinding. And be your best you, Emoni! Emoni is young by NCAA bball standards, but he's old enough to have accountability and be responsible for himself and his actions.

Good luck, Emoni!