Not sure he had an attitude. From everything I've heard, he was a really good kid...just frustrated by lack of PT. I don't blame him...he was by far the most talented WR that we had last year and only saw the field due to injury...and immediate broke out. I wish him luck wherever he lands.

(05-03-2022 11:06 PM)pono Wrote:  article in ESPN today about college football coaches trying to fit the portal into 2 short time windows during the live recruiting periods before Dec 15 early commits and right after spring practice.

obviously, the balance college football had for a while between school pride, competition, and money shifted way too far toward the dollars. I'd argue big time football has always had a problem with prioritizing it's own image and status above doing what was right or in the best interests of competitiveness.

as fans maybe we got carried away with the over-glorification of athletes. They's always been put on a pedestal and worshipped to a degree, which has some grounding in human nature/appreciating the physical gifts of human performance. It's gotten a bit silly today with the money thrown at athletes from the biggest stars to barely average players at name universities.

as for the NCAA they have no standing anymore. it may work as a tournament organizational entity for most college sports, but it has no credibility or creative vision for advancing the best things about college sports. The NCAA sold the tourney to TV in increasingly huge sums of money and created a vast array of vice presidents and administrators to pocket a chunk of it. while sending most of the rest to a small group of high profile schools to pay their coaches and ADs ridiculous salaries. meanwhile, entirely cutting out the athletes who make the sport what it is. now, that athletes have established the legal right to use their work, notoriety or fame financially we've got a free for all for the money. If the NCAA had from the jump worked with the athletes and institutions to share the revenue and project how it could benefit sports overall at the college level, we would not have found ourselves here.

transfers and eligibility were for decades in this slow amorphous process of rulings and appeals that had no transparency or consistency. name transfers were often given waivers under questionable reasons. ethics violations were punished by sanctions on athletes who had nothing to do with violations that happened in the past involving other people. guys like the oakland bball player who was a war veteran and honor student and was ruled by the NCAA academically ineligible, because he got something like a B- in a difficult class in his major which in that program at oakland triggered an academic probation. or all the non-scholarship ivy league athletes (none are on scholarship) who lost a year on their eligibility clock when the Ivy league cancelled their seasons during a pandemic after they'd enrolled and paid for school. meanwhile, you got 6th and 7th year guys at their 4th school. I'm still baffled how willie jackson played 1 full year of college basketball and was out of eligibility.

For each reaction their is a counter-reaction. when things are out of whack you can have over-reach as you look for solutions or make changes.

I posted that article in the transfer portal at the top yesterday.

(05-04-2022 08:27 PM)Babes boy Wrote:  

(05-03-2022 11:06 PM)pono Wrote:  article in ESPN today ...

I posted that article in the transfer portal at the top yesterday.

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Well that is a potential torpedo to the upcoming season. That's two big WR targets gone. He quickly established himself as the biggest play threat on offense. He used Toledo to re-establish himself and is now shopping himself around. He can withdraw his name from the portal. The mid and lower tier Power 5 schools are feeling the effect of the transfer portal too. It's no longer how good your program is, but how much $$$ a NIL deal can get them. I can't say I blame them. I blame the NCAA.

(05-03-2022 10:28 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  East said it in another thread, CFB fan interest is going to decline and others will just move on to other things. This is crazy. I don't really think the new CFB as we know it is sustainable. The top 20 or so teams will split to form their own semi-pro league, while the rest of the teams can actually play college football.

Sadly, we are seeing the beginning of the end of College Football in G5 schools. Interest will slowing fade. Group of 5 schools will have zero chance of competing if changes aren't made. G5 teams will not be able to keep any of their talented players. I

(05-04-2022 05:26 PM)TampaRocket Wrote:  Not sure he had an attitude. From everything I've heard, he was a really good kid...just frustrated by lack of PT. I don't blame him...he was by far the most talented WR that we had last year and only saw the field due to injury...and immediate broke out. I wish him luck wherever he lands.

It was an absolute joke he was not utilized more last year. Candle waited until we were out of the MAC race before he started to involve him in the game plan. I think the only one that didnt recognize his elite talent was Candle.

(05-05-2022 01:24 PM)falconplucker Wrote:  Well that is a potential torpedo to the upcoming season. That's two big WR targets gone. He quickly established himself as the biggest play threat on offense. He used Toledo to re-establish himself and is now shopping himself around. He can withdraw his name from the portal. The mid and lower tier Power 5 schools are feeling the effect of the transfer portal too. It's no longer how good your program is, but how much $$$ a NIL deal can get them. I can't say I blame them. I blame the NCAA.

Exactly. There will be some instances where G5 schools will benefit, but there's an old saying, "The cream always rises to the top," and that what's going to happen.

How can a coach recruit effectively not knowing year-to-year, even month-to-month, what his roster is going to look like?

Quote:Sadly, we are seeing the beginning of the end of College Football in G5 schools. Interest will slowing fade. Group of 5 schools will have zero chance of competing if changes aren't made. G5 teams will not be able to keep any of their talented players.

Also rough on the fans not knowing what kind of team they will have year-to-year. You could have a good team one year, mediocre the next just because of transfers.

(05-11-2022 07:30 AM)BDV27 Wrote:  

(05-03-2022 10:28 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  East said it in another thread, CFB fan interest is going to decline and others will just move on to other things. This is crazy. I don't really think the new CFB as we know it is sustainable. The top 20 or so teams will split to form their own semi-pro league, while the rest of the teams can actually play college football.

Sadly, we are seeing the beginning of the end of College Football in G5 schools. Interest will slowing fade. Group of 5 schools will have zero chance of competing if changes aren't made. G5 teams will not be able to keep any of their talented players. I

And it sounds like they will pass a new rule on unlimited coaches per school. So the P5 will just hire away all the good G5 coaches and double their pay so we can't hire any decent coaches.

He chose Arkansas. Guess he didn't watch the 2015 game.

Count me in the group who feels this will be a big loss in the coming season. Landers is a weapon.

I expected Landers to have a Michael Roberts type of senior season--totally destroying the record book.

The coaches have to be blamed for this. UT players make the NFL so that could not be the issue. He obviously did not feel appreciated.

(05-16-2022 07:02 AM)Rocket75 Wrote:  I expected Landers to have a Michael Roberts type of senior season--totally destroying the record book.

The coaches have to be blamed for this. UT players make the NFL so that could not be the issue. He obviously did not feel appreciated.

He didn't want to be there...apparently he never visited before committing. Big change going from Athens, GA to Toledo. I'm sure being on the sideline for half the season didn't help things.

(05-16-2022 07:02 AM)Rocket75 Wrote:  I expected Landers to have a Michael Roberts type of senior season--totally destroying the record book.

The coaches have to be blamed for this. UT players make the NFL so that could not be the issue. He obviously did not feel appreciated.

Going from the MAC to the SEC is the coaches fault???

(05-16-2022 11:03 AM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  

(05-16-2022 07:02 AM)Rocket75 Wrote:  I expected Landers to have a Michael Roberts type of senior season--totally destroying the record book.

The coaches have to be blamed for this. UT players make the NFL so that could not be the issue. He obviously did not feel appreciated.

Going from the MAC to the SEC is the coaches fault???

Well... yeah. That's the way on this board, it's always the coaches fault never the players'. Not knowing, if the kid was a terrible practice player or just had a ****** attitude. They just blame coaches.

(05-16-2022 02:22 PM)utpotts Wrote:  

(05-16-2022 11:03 AM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  

(05-16-2022 07:02 AM)Rocket75 Wrote:  I expected Landers to have a Michael Roberts type of senior season--totally destroying the record book.

The coaches have to be blamed for this. UT players make the NFL so that could not be the issue. He obviously did not feel appreciated.

Going from the MAC to the SEC is the coaches fault???

Well... yeah. That's the way on this board, it's always the coaches fault never the players'. Not knowing, if the kid was a terrible practice player or just had a ****** attitude. They just blame coaches.

He did show a lack of effort multiple times last year.

(05-04-2022 05:26 PM)TampaRocket Wrote:  Not sure he had an attitude. From everything I've heard, he was a really good kid...just frustrated by lack of PT. I don't blame him...he was by far the most talented WR that we had last year and only saw the field due to injury...and immediate broke out. I wish him luck wherever he lands.

Landers is going to Auburn, don't feel he will more playing time there, it's to bad these kids get their feelings hurt so, they up and leave. College football is a mess, with no improvement coming and me buying season tickets is going to be a thing of the pass.

It will only get worse with profit sharing based on possible new Cali law being introduced this year.

(05-16-2022 03:16 PM)FrickerRon Wrote:  

(05-04-2022 05:26 PM)TampaRocket Wrote:  Not sure he had an attitude. From everything I've heard, he was a really good kid...just frustrated by lack of PT. I don't blame him...he was by far the most talented WR that we had last year and only saw the field due to injury...and immediate broke out. I wish him luck wherever he lands.

Landers is going to Auburn, don't feel he will more playing time there, it's to bad these kids get their feelings hurt so, they up and leave. College football is a mess, with no improvement coming and me buying season tickets is going to be a thing of the pass.

Arkansas. Was posted up-thread.

(05-16-2022 11:03 AM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  

(05-16-2022 07:02 AM)Rocket75 Wrote:  I expected Landers to have a Michael Roberts type of senior season--totally destroying the record book.

The coaches have to be blamed for this. UT players make the NFL so that could not be the issue. He obviously did not feel appreciated.

Going from the MAC to the SEC is the coaches fault???

Yes, because it has to be, it can't, be the player getting poached because we all know the SEC schools are always above such behavior.