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RE: The most likely replacement members if Memphis, USF, & SMU end up in the Big 12.
(05-13-2022 05:59 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  
(05-13-2022 03:37 PM)b2b Wrote:  
(05-11-2022 11:01 PM)CarlSmithCenter Wrote:  I feel like people are sleeping on the possibility that, should the AAC lose Memphis, USF, and SMU to the Big XII, it will either do nothing - the league has been fine operating with 11 football members, and it seems the mandatory round-robin division CCG rule is being scrapped - or it adds UMass in all sports to shore up basketball and as an inducement to try to keep Temple happy. Then just go with an 8 game schedule with 3 annual opponents, and rotate through the remaining 8 in a way where, in a 2 year cycle, you also play a home-home with 2 schools and play the remaining 6 once. In basketball have 3 permanent home-home opponents, then play 6 of the remaining 8 twice and the other 2 schools once in a given year for a 20 game slate.

FB: UMass, Temple, Navy, ECU, Charlotte, UAB, FAU, Tulane, Rice, UTSA, UNT, Tulsa.
BB: UMass, Temple, ECU, Charlotte, UAB, FAU, Tulane, Rice, UTSA, UNT, Tulsa, Wichita State.

In that scenario the AAC loses 2 eastern schools and one right in the center. Plus it's really ugly from a FB quality standpoint. I'd hope ECU is on the phone with the SBC.

If they were to join the SBC, the American would probably respond by adding MTSU or WKU, either of which would be a larger market, and do fine from the exchange.

However, ESPN has made clear their preference for the AAC to have 14 members, so it's unlikely that their membership would drop from 14 to 12. Thus, if they were to lose Memphis, SMU, USF, and ECU (to the SBC), and to add UMass, the American would probably add 3 more schools such as MTSU, WKU, and Air Force, CSU, FIU, or LaTech

FB: WKU, UTSA, UNT, UAB, Tulsa, Tulane, Temple, Rice, Navy, MTSU, Massachusetts, FAU, Charlotte, and Air Force, CSU, FIU, or LaTech.

MBB: WKU, Wichita State, UTSA, UNT, UAB, Tulsa, Tulane, Temple, Rice, MTSU, Massachusetts, FAU, Charlotte, and Air Force, CSU, FIU, or LaTech.

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(05-13-2022 03:37 PM)b2b Wrote:  In that scenario the AAC loses 2 eastern schools and one right in the center. Plus it's really ugly from a FB quality standpoint. I'd hope ECU is on the phone with the SBC.

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The Sun Belt is so far behind the AAC in recruiting (and they always will be) that ECU would instantly be the recruiting champion if that ever happened.


In fact, the new CUSA out recruits the Sun Belt.

From the CUSA Board:

Future CUSA Out-recruited the Future Sun Belt and MAC in 2022 in Football
247 has added transfers to their rankings and they effect the overall ranking. As of right now, the new 9 team CUSA averages a #105.67 ranking. The 14 team future Sun Belt averages a #110.35 ranking. MAC at 107.50.

CUSA

New Mex St. 86
Liberty 90
La. Tech 91
WKU 93
FIU 98
Sam Houston St. 104
MTSU 111
UTEP 130
Jacksonville St. 148

Average = 105.67

Sun Belt

Marshall 74
Arkansas St. 77
So. Miss 83
Coastal Car. 87
Appalachian St. 92
South Alabama 96
Ga. Southern 116
Ga. State 117
ODU 119
Louisiana 122
Texas State 129
Troy 131
ULM 133
James Madison 169

Average = 110.35

MAC

Buffalo 75
Miami OH 88
C. Michigan 99
Toledo 100
Kent State 102
N. Illinois 103
Ball State 107
Akron 112
Bowling Green 118
W. Michigan 124
E. Michigan 127
Ohio 135

Average = 107.50
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RE: The most likely replacement members if Memphis, USF, & SMU end up in the Big 12.
The ECU President would be fired if they ever left the AAC for the Sun Belt..

There are 7 R1 Universities in the AAC (UAB, Memphis, North Texas, Rice, South Florida, Temple, Tulane).

Here are the US News Rankings standings.

Rice — 17th

Tulane — 42nd

SMU — 68th

Temple — 103rd

South Florida — 103rd

Tulsa — 136th

UAB — 148th

East Carolina — 213th

Charlotte — 227th

Memphis — 249th

Florida Atlantic — 277th

North Texas — 277th

UTSA — 299th

Navy — N/A

Wichita State — 299th (non-football member)



Do you want to guess what the Sunbelt's is?
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Sun Belt

U.S. News and World Report Rankings




Georgia State — 239th

Old Dominion — 263rd

Marshall — 288th

Arkansas State — 299th

Georgia Southern — 299th

Louisiana — 299th

ULM — 299th

South Alabama — 299th

Southern Miss — 299th

Texas State — 299th

Appalachian State — N/A

Coastal Carolina — N/A

Troy — N/A
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TroyTBoy hates the Sun Belt, and wants all of us to ingrain that in our minds.
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(05-13-2022 06:49 PM)Yosef181 Wrote:  TroyTBoy hates the Sun Belt, and wants all of us to ingrain that in our minds.


Not at all.

In fact, I'm rooting for the Sun Belt to climb the US News rankings and challenge the AAC for dominance.
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UPDATE:

There are two AAU universities and eight R1 Universities in the AAC (UAB, Memphis, North Texas, Rice, South Florida, Temple, Tulane, & UTSA).

US News Rankings:

Rice — 17th (AAU; R1 doctoral research university)

Tulane — 42nd (AAU; R1 doctoral research university)

SMU — 68th (R2 doctoral research university)

Temple — 103rd (R1 doctoral research university)

South Florida — 103rd (R1 doctoral research university)

Tulsa — 136th (R2 doctoral research university)

UAB — 148th (R1 doctoral research university)

East Carolina — 213th (R2 doctoral research university)

Charlotte — 227th (R2 doctoral research university)

Memphis — 249th (R1 doctoral research university)

Florida Atlantic — 277th (R2 doctoral research university)

North Texas — 277th (R1 doctoral research university)

UTSA — 299th (R1 doctoral research university)

Navy — N/A (ranked #6, nationally, among liberal arts colleges)

Wichita State — 299th (R2 doctoral research university)
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It's important to note that basically all the reasonable and fair-minded Sun Belt fans who post on this board (i.e., the bulk of the forum's SBC-centric posters) have respectfully acknowledged that the future AAC will be more academically stout than the future SBC. I respect them for their doing so. Let's move on.
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(05-13-2022 06:51 PM)TroyTBoy Wrote:  
(05-13-2022 06:49 PM)Yosef181 Wrote:  TroyTBoy hates the Sun Belt, and wants all of us to ingrain that in our minds.


Not at all.

In fact, I'm rooting for the Sun Belt to climb the US News rankings and challenge the AAC for dominance.

Same here. The only reason issues like academics were brought up was because some SBC fans were comparing the conferences and suggesting the SBC might be stronger in football, which they might be. The AAC fans responded by emphasizing things like men's basketball and academics.

Time will tell. It'll be interesting to see how things play out between the two football conferences.

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(05-14-2022 01:51 AM)Milwaukee Wrote:  The only reason issues like academics were brought up was because some SBC fans were comparing the conferences and suggesting the SBC might be stronger in football, which they might be. The AAC fans responded by emphasizing things like men's basketball and academics.

Time will tell. It'll be interesting to see how things play out between the two football conferences.

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Exactly.

There was a poster that suggested ECU join the Sunbelt.

It is an important counterpoint that University Presidents make those decisions, and if ECU joined the Sunbelt they'd be the TOP (the #1) Academic school in the Sunbelt by a wide margin with a #213 ranking in the U.S. News and World Report.

Well... gee... I'm not sure the President at ECU wants that distinction of being the biggest Academic Powerhouse in the Sun Belt conference with a 213th ranking.

Presidents usually like marrying up.

That said, kudos to the Sun Belt fans who have recognized that.
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(05-14-2022 02:32 AM)TroyTBoy Wrote:  
(05-14-2022 01:51 AM)Milwaukee Wrote:  ...It'll be interesting to see how things play out between the two football conferences.

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Exactly.

...kudos to the Sun Belt fans...

The back and forth discussion may have stimulated a rivalry between the conferences. If so, hopefully, it will be a friendly rivalry.

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(05-13-2022 06:58 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  UPDATE:

There are two AAU universities and eight R1 Universities in the AAC (UAB, Memphis, North Texas, Rice, South Florida, Temple, Tulane, & UTSA).

US News Rankings:

Rice — 17th (AAU; R1 doctoral research university)

Tulane — 42nd (AAU; R1 doctoral research university)

SMU — 68th (R2 doctoral research university)

Temple — 103rd (R1 doctoral research university)

South Florida — 103rd (R1 doctoral research university)

Tulsa — 136th (R2 doctoral research university)

UAB — 148th (R1 doctoral research university)

East Carolina — 213th (R2 doctoral research university)

Charlotte — 227th (R2 doctoral research university)

Memphis — 249th (R1 doctoral research university)

Florida Atlantic — 277th (R2 doctoral research university)

North Texas — 277th (R1 doctoral research university)

UTSA — 299th (R1 doctoral research university)

Navy — N/A (ranked #6, nationally, among liberal arts colleges)

Wichita State — 299th (R2 doctoral research university)


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Colorado State is moving up in the poll and is in a battle with Louisiana Tech for 4th place, which isn't far behind WKU.
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Question: Would the AAC be more inclined to add schools with large markets (e.g., FIU), or would they shift their strategy to go with schools with greater viewership potential due to higher quality teams (e.g., WKU)?
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(05-14-2022 05:48 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  Colorado State is moving up in the poll and is in a battle with Louisiana Tech for 4th place, which isn't far behind WKU.
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Lol...[/quote]

No need to go ad hominem, dude, unless you're aiming to get banned.03-idea

Reminder: PLEASE READ: Rules for staying on-topic on this board

The point of the above post was to shift the topic away from academics, as others above had suggested, and back onto athletics.

This has been one of the most energize threads on this board recently, and it remains an interesting topic of discussion.

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Question to Georgia State fans - what is it that most interests you about the topic of future AAC replacement members?

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I’m sorry counselor but as has already been established on this thread, the idea that schools that passed on the AAC with those schools would be willing after they’ve left is laughable so “LOL” is on topic and by definition no an ad hominem attack.

It’s funny to me though that someone that joined the site less than a year ago and has a very familiar posting style is repeatedly on here posting about board rules. You seem very familiar with them, you haven’t been banned in the past by chance under another name? No business of mine, I’m happy to let the mods do their jobs. Just a bit overbearing.

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(05-14-2022 07:14 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  the idea that schools that passed on the AAC with those schools would be willing after they’ve left is laughable so “LOL” is on topic and by definition no an ad hominem attack.

Like it or not, there are new policies in place, and they are being enforced.

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As the thread-starter, it's my responsibility to keep the thread on topic, and I'm taking that responsibility seriously.

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It is interesting that Colorado State has kept moving up in the poll, and have more votes than Air Forc has, even though some have suggested that they wouldn't be likely to join the AAC.
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(05-14-2022 07:29 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  
(05-14-2022 07:14 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  the idea that schools that passed on the AAC with those schools would be willing after they’ve left is laughable so “LOL” is on topic and by definition no an ad hominem attack.

Like it or not, there are new policies in place, and they are being enforced.

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As the thread-starter, it's my responsibility to keep the thread on topic, and I'm taking that responsibility seriously.

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It is interesting that Colorado State has kept moving up in the poll, and have more votes than Air Forc has, even though some have suggested that they wouldn't be likely to join the AAC.

That is interesting. How many times did you vote for them?
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(05-14-2022 08:02 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(05-14-2022 07:29 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  
(05-14-2022 07:14 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  the idea that schools that passed on the AAC with those schools would be willing after they’ve left is laughable so “LOL” is on topic and by definition no an ad hominem attack.

Like it or not, there are new policies in place, and they are being enforced.

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As the thread-starter, it's my responsibility to keep the thread on topic, and I'm taking that responsibility seriously.

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It is interesting that Colorado State has kept moving up in the poll, and have more votes than Air Forc has, even though some have suggested that they wouldn't be likely to join the AAC.

That is interesting. How many times did you vote for them?

That's two ad hominem posts in a row, and the idea of a "voter fraud" conspiracy on a college sports poll is hilarious! 03-rotfl



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