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Criminal Case Against Trump Fully Collapses as Liberals Struggle to Cope
Quote:Some months ago, news that the criminal case against Donald Trump in Manhattan was in trouble broke. The prosecution’s top two prosecutors resigned in protest because current DA Alvin Bragg, a far-left Democrat, refused to play into their lawfare fantasies of taking a losing case into the courtroom.

Later, a sympathetic report from The New York Times exposed just how far they were willing to go in their push for political retribution. They claimed that not charging Trump, despite the lack of evidence, would put them on “the wrong side of history” — while also proclaiming it a “righteous case that ought to be brought.” Given the power that prosecutors hold, it’s scary to think that people like that populate district attorney offices across the nation. They can ruin your life over a grudge and not even blink. Bragg, despite having run on nuking Trump, recognized that things had gone too far.

Still, the grand jury in the case remained empaneled, and several weeks after the resignations, fresh rumblings from the DA’s office gave the left new hope. That has now expired, though, with the grand jury ending, no charges being filed, and no reason to think it will be reconvened.



A six-month grand jury that was convened late last year to hear evidence against Donald Trump was set to expire this week, closing a chapter in a lengthy criminal investigation that appears to be fizzling out without charges against the former president, people familiar with matter [sic] said.

Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg (D), who took office in January, inherited a probe launched by his predecessor, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., who was convinced that there was a case against Trump for crimes related to manipulating the value of property assets to secure tax advantages or better loan rates…

…Still, the expiration of the grand jury — and the departure in February of two senior prosecutors who said Bragg was stalling the inquiry — makes any potential indictment of Trump seem unlikely, legal observers have said. By the time Mark Pomerantz and Carey Dunne quit, the grand jury had been inactive for weeks, with jurors being told to stay home, a person with knowledge of the issue previously said.

Bragg tried to appease his critics by insisting that other grand juries that are handling other cases could conceivably be called upon to charge Trump, but that wouldn’t make any sense at this point. If his office had the goods, they would have used the grand jury empaneled to deal with the specific case against the former president. In short, this is over, and anyone suggesting otherwise needs to find a better coping mechanism.

Sure enough, The Palmer Report, a far-left social media presence with 462,000 followers took to Twitter to do the exact opposite. Here’s just a taste of the conspiracy theories being spun to explain away why Trump isn’t being frog-marched in handcuffs at this point.



I’ll stop there, but you get the point. These absolute hacks are doing everything they can to create wild scenarios in which Trump somehow ends up charged with criminal offenses. In this case, the suggestion is that NY AG Letitia James will somehow take over the prosecution. That’s not going to happen, though. James is pursuing Trump, but she’s doing so on civil grounds. If she had any criminal case to bring, she’d have brought it long ago.

Of course, there are still other long-shot attempts to put Trump behind bars in places like Georgia, where a local investigation is attempting to show that he tried to force Secretary of State Brad Raffensberger to create fraudulent votes following the 2020 election. Anyone that has listened to the tape, though, knows that claim is extremely weak.

Regardless, this witch hunt in New York is done. Still, I’m assured the walls are closing in. You can only laugh at this point.

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Meanwhile blatant violations by Biden* and his corrupt family remain to be investigated.
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F' U Dems....
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A 2020 loss may've been the best thing to happen to him. Instead of presiding over the country while in constant court battles against him in an attempt to defame & smear him, it's case after case not going anywhere. Can use as jumpstart for a 2024 run.
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I said when this began there was unlikely to be anything that could be considered a criminal case involved. These kinds of loans always have the property being used as collateral appraised by a 3rd party (generally a state certified appraiser). At worst, the most they were going to find was that the prosecutors had a difference of opinion over these appraisals. Understand, an appraisal is nothing more than an "opinion" of value made by a state licensed unbiased third party professional with no interest in the property. If the Trump companies and lenders were relying on these appraisals for the values utilized in the loan portfolio, then the fact that a Federal Prosecutor (who is not a real estate valuation professional and is not licensed by the state as a real estate valuation professional) has a difference of opinion found in the appraisals in question is not a crime---its just a difference of opinion---and even under Biden----thats not a crime in America.....not yet at least.

The only way to get this to be a Trump crime was if the Trump companies were bribing the appraiser to falsify the value. Clearly---there was no evidence of that because if there was---this would be a pretty easy case to prove in court and it would have rolled forward ages ago. So---the reality is all the Feds had was a difference of opinion---which is simply not a crime.
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This was never going to rise to criminal prosecution for several reasons:

1) As Attack notes, property valuation is about opinions, and differences of opinion are not actionable crimes.
2) Both lenders and taxing authorities have the right to, and in some cases are required by law to, obtain appraisals from their appraisers representing their sides, and rely upon them in setting values. If each of them had obtained such appraisals, with results consistent with what the Trump organization proposed to them, then no harm no foul. If they had the opportunity to obtain such appraisals, and did not, then that's on them, not the Trump organization.
3) Under most state statutes with which I am familiar, these sorts of things are civil matters, not criminal.
4) Criminal prosecution requires a defendant, who must be a legal person, who committed an act that violated a law. Even if all the alleged things happened, there is no evidence that Donald J. Trump was the actor in any of them, and the normal situation is that he would not be.

So it most likely didn't happen, if it did then it's most likely not a crime, and if it is a crime then Donald J.Trump is most likely not the criminal actor.

Interestingly, one of the left's common talking points early was that Donald J. Trump was not as rich as he claimed to be, because the bank lenders had forced him out of his equity positions and he simply received a fee for naming rights. If that is true, then that totally blows up any criminal case against him here, as he would have been in no position to commit the alleged acts. It also blows up any allegations of violating the emoluments prohibition.
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But I thought they finally had the MOB
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Allegedly "fully collapse[d]" probe ramping back up -

Manhattan DA Hires Big Gun to Lead Trump Probe
December 5, 2022 at 12:09 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 37 Comments

“The Manhattan district attorney, Alvin Bragg, is hiring a former senior justice department official with a history of taking on Donald Trump and his family business, as the office seeks to ramp up its investigation into the former president,” the New York Times reports.

“The official, Matthew Colangelo, who before acting as third in command at the Justice Department, led the New York attorney general’s civil inquiry into Mr. Trump, will likely become one of the leaders of the district attorney’s criminal investigation into the former president.”

https://politicalwire.com/2022/12/05/man...ump-probe/
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(12-05-2022 01:02 PM)Gamenole Wrote:  Allegedly "fully collapse[d]" probe ramping back up -

Manhattan DA Hires Big Gun to Lead Trump Probe
December 5, 2022 at 12:09 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 37 Comments

“The Manhattan district attorney, Alvin Bragg, is hiring a former senior justice department official with a history of taking on Donald Trump and his family business, as the office seeks to ramp up its investigation into the former president,” the New York Times reports.

“The official, Matthew Colangelo, who before acting as third in command at the Justice Department, led the New York attorney general’s civil inquiry into Mr. Trump, will likely become one of the leaders of the district attorney’s criminal investigation into the former president.”

https://politicalwire.com/2022/12/05/man...ump-probe/



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So the case is being re-opened using a hired gun in hopes of finally getting Trump?
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Whoever wrote that piece of garbage is wrong. Trump is going to court today for tax evasion scheme.
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Wake me up when Trump is in jail.
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(12-05-2022 02:00 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Whoever wrote that piece of garbage is wrong. Trump is going to court today for tax evasion scheme.

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(12-05-2022 02:00 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Trump is going to court today for tax evasion scheme.

Trump is going to court or one of his companies is?
And what tax evasion scheme?
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(12-05-2022 01:02 PM)Gamenole Wrote:  Allegedly "fully collapse[d]" probe ramping back up -

Manhattan DA Hires Big Gun to Lead Trump Probe
December 5, 2022 at 12:09 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 37 Comments

“The Manhattan district attorney, Alvin Bragg, is hiring a former senior justice department official with a history of taking on Donald Trump and his family business, as the office seeks to ramp up its investigation into the former president,” the New York Times reports.

“The official, Matthew Colangelo, who before acting as third in command at the Justice Department, led the New York attorney general’s civil inquiry into Mr. Trump, will likely become one of the leaders of the district attorney’s criminal investigation into the former president.”

https://politicalwire.com/2022/12/05/man...ump-probe/


Good plan

NYC is more of a schithole than when I last risked my life there in 2008. Now?
They couldn’t pay me enough to go back there, so I haven’t.

So spend your dwindling taxpayers money on more useless snipe hunts as your people flee to free dates down south.
Bring in the fence jumpers to repopulate.

Good stuff. Good, good stuff. Enjoy your hellscape.
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Trump says “lock her up” even though he never pursued it, and is persecuted They literally try and “lock him up” for 6 years with the full power of the DOJ, the FBI, Congress, the NY AG, the NYC prosecutors, etc and the left cheers (with no results) month after month.
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(12-06-2022 01:37 AM)banker Wrote:  Trump says “lock her up” even though he never pursued it, and is persecuted They literally try and “lock him up” for 6 years with the full power of the DOJ, the FBI, Congress, the NY AG, the NYC prosecutors, etc and the left cheers (with no results) month after month.

The Trump theme: too much talk, followed by too little action.

I didn’t vote for Donald Trump in 2016, so I really have no standing to complain. But it strikes me in hindsight that pursuing the Clinton gang for its blatant criminal conduct (e.g., Clinton foundation donations, uranium sale, destruction of evidence) would have been both justified and politically smart. He was already hated, so why not do what’s right? (Full admission here: I would have said at the time that he shouldn’t. But what do I know?)

Now, ten years later, team Trump is left on the sidelines crying “no fair, no fair”. And he is absolutely right. The corrupt misuse of government powers against him is no fair, and in my view among the WORST of the many offenses that have been and continue to be committed by the entrenched Clinton-Obama-Biden cabal.

Yet it also warrants noting that Donald Trump was actually in a position to do something about it. In typical fashion, he opted to only talk trash but not actually take action.
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(12-06-2022 01:37 AM)banker Wrote:  Trump says “lock her up” even though he never pursued it, and is persecuted They literally try and “lock him up” for 6 years with the full power of the DOJ, the FBI, Congress, the NY AG, the NYC prosecutors, etc and the left cheers (with no results) month after month.
Libs like pissing away other peoples money.
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