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RE: Rivalries that completely flipped around
(05-03-2022 12:41 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  Don't know where I would go to find the numbers for this stuff, but I can think of two SEC rivalries that completely flipped around. I remember when Alabama used to dominate Tennessee during the '80s, but Tennessee can back to dominate the not so good Alabama coaches after Gene Stallings but before Nick Saban. As soon as Saban was hired, he made beating Tennessee a priority, IMO.

Dawg, Winsipedia is a great place for info like this -

http://www.winsipedia.com/
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RE: Rivalries that completely flipped around
Prior to 1951, Colgate had a 31-16-5 record against Syracuse. SU then won 10 games in a row including some real beatdowns (71-0, 41-0, 61-7, 51-8, etc.) They've played only five times since.
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RE: Rivalries that completely flipped around
UCF vs South Florida in the War on I-4: South Florida was in the Big East conference and had an advantage over UCF with their BCS tag. Eventually UCF built facilities and joined the same conference which leveled the playing field for awhile. Then UCF became a Top G5 team after claiming a National Championship and has pulled away in the series since the 2017 team.

http://www.winsipedia.com/south-florida/vs/ucf

Start of the Rivalry: South Florida sweeps series 4-0
2005 South Florida Win 31-14
2006 South Florida Win 24-17
2007 South Florida Win 64-12 (Largest Margin of Victory for South Florida, Later climbed to #2 in the BCS rankings in week 8)
2008 South Florida Win 31-24
(Intermission because South Florida didn't want to continue series)

UCF Joins the AAC: UCF and South Florida tied 2-2
2013 UCF Win 23-20
2014 UCF Win 16-0
2015 South Florida Win 44-3
2016 South Florida Win 48-31

More Recently: UCF 5-0 Win Streak
2017 UCF Win 49-42 (UCF's National Title Claim Year)
2018 UCF Win 38-10 (Largest Margin of Victory for UCF)
2019 UCF Win 34-7
2020 UCF Win 58-46
2021 UCF Win 17-13

2022 is likely the last game of the series for awhile. South Florida's OOC schedule is full for awhile.

Fun Fact:
2008 South Florida brought a shovel to dig out the endzone of UCF's new Stadium.
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RE: Rivalries that completely flipped around
(05-17-2022 07:35 AM)zibby Wrote:  Prior to 1951, Colgate had a 31-16-5 record against Syracuse. SU then won 10 games in a row including some real beatdowns (71-0, 41-0, 61-7, 51-8, etc.) They've played only five times since.

You can see a good share of weird stuff from the northeastern schools up until the D1A/1AA split. Some interesting ongoing series and results between current CAAF or Patriot members versus current ACC, AAC, or independents. Colgate really hung on in there.
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(05-14-2022 04:22 PM)Gamenole Wrote:  
(05-03-2022 12:41 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  Don't know where I would go to find the numbers for this stuff, but I can think of two SEC rivalries that completely flipped around. I remember when Alabama used to dominate Tennessee during the '80s, but Tennessee can back to dominate the not so good Alabama coaches after Gene Stallings but before Nick Saban. As soon as Saban was hired, he made beating Tennessee a priority, IMO.

Dawg, Winsipedia is a great place for info like this -

http://www.winsipedia.com/

Also if non-FBS or defunct programs are involved, this site has a lot of info (though you have to compile manually).

http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/byname.htm
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RE: Rivalries that completely flipped around
UGA vs Tennessee might also qualify for this one. 26-23-2 overall with UGA in the lead.
From 1899 to 1999 there were 28 games played with a 10 Georgia wins, 17 for Tennessee including 9 in a row from 1989 through 1999. Since 1999 UGA has 16 wins and 6 wins for Tennessee.
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RE: Rivalries that completely flipped around
Closer to home, Georgetown-Fordham:

Through 1975, 19-12-3... competitive.
Since 1975: 4-27-0...not competitive.
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(05-03-2022 10:25 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  Cincinnati-Xavier:

It's been an annual rivalry from 1946. From 1948-58, they played twice a year.

12-10 Cincinnati from 1928-1957
33-8 Cincinnati from 1958-1996
18-8 Xavier from 1996-today


The two schools also played annually in football from 1946-1973 (when Xavier dropped their team). All of the football games were played in UC's Nippert Stadium.


Let’s not forget Cincinnati v Miami (OH) and the battle for the victory bell

Series is currently tied at 49-49-7. Cincy has won the last 15 games, it’s at a point it doesn’t even feel like a rivalry anymore.
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RE: Rivalries that completely flipped around
(Yesterday 10:53 AM)pki1998 Wrote:  
(05-03-2022 10:25 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  Cincinnati-Xavier:

It's been an annual rivalry from 1946. From 1948-58, they played twice a year.

12-10 Cincinnati from 1928-1957
33-8 Cincinnati from 1958-1996
18-8 Xavier from 1996-today


The two schools also played annually in football from 1946-1973 (when Xavier dropped their team). All of the football games were played in UC's Nippert Stadium.


Let’s not forget Cincinnati v Miami (OH) and the battle for the victory bell

Series is currently tied at 49-49-7. Cincy has won the last 15 games, it’s at a point it doesn’t even feel like a rivalry anymore.

It’s not, it’s a series (actually 59-59-7). The two schools have been operating on a different plane for sometime now. I have done a deeper dive on this, many attribute the divergence to UC going to the Big East in 2005. That is certainly a factor, but in addition, since 1986 UC is 25-9-1 in that series. That’s quite telling since UC football was at its lowest in the 80s and early/mid 90s.

A lot of older Miami fans view it still from the lens of the bygone days, but ask any of their fans under 30 if it is a rivalry they’ll be honest.
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RE: Rivalries that completely flipped around
It’s hard to believe that there was once a time when schools like Ohio Wesleyan, Case, Oberlin, Kenyon, and Western Reserve would beat Ohio St.
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(Yesterday 11:57 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  It’s hard to believe that there was once a time when schools like Ohio Wesleyan, Case, Oberlin, Kenyon, and Western Reserve would beat Ohio St.

Yeah but that was the 19th century-1930s. It was a different football world. OSU had not elevated itself yet, and those schools had de-emphasized playing football at the highest level. Case was at one time a strong program. Had they had the foresight or desire, being in the Cleveland metro area, they could easily be on par with someone like Duke, Northwestern, Vandy, etc athletically.
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(Yesterday 12:11 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(Yesterday 11:57 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  It’s hard to believe that there was once a time when schools like Ohio Wesleyan, Case, Oberlin, Kenyon, and Western Reserve would beat Ohio St.

Yeah but that was the 19th century-1930s. It was a different football world. OSU had not elevated itself yet, and those schools had de-emphasized playing football at the highest level. Case was at one time a strong program. Had they had the foresight or desire, being in the Cleveland metro area, they could easily be on par with someone like Duke, Northwestern, Vandy, etc athletically.

I wonder if the Big Ten conference fathers ever gave any thought to a 2nd Ohio school.

A Case or even a Cincinnati would have been interesting. something tells me that Case would make the same decision that Chicago did. I wonder why Northwestern never did.

Let’s say the both Chicago schools did drop out in the 40s. Who comes in along with Mich St? Pitt?
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RE: Rivalries that completely flipped around
Here's what a "good rivalry" looks like since 1900. However, for obvious reasons, it is not played frequently anymore.

South Carolina vs North Carolina State

https://gopack.com/sports/football/oppon...rolina/253
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