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The 3 southern areas have completed voting.

15 schools have been selected for the first 45.

ACC: Clemson, Florida State, Miami(FL), North Carolina, North Carolina State, Virginia, Virginia Tech.

SEC: Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Tennessee.



The following schools have qualified for the repechage, that will select 27 from among 60 nationally.

AAC: East Carolina (ECU), South Florida (USF), Tulane, UAB,

ACC: Duke, Georgia Tech, Wake Forest

B12: Central Florida (UCF)

CUSA: Jacksonville State, Louisiana Tech, Middle Tennessee (MTSU)

SEC: South Carolina, Vanderbilt

Sun Belt: Appalachian State, Louisiana (Lafayette), Old Dominion, Southern Miss.



The following schools are excluded from the initial selection.

AAC: Charlotte, Florida Atlantic (FAU)

CUSA: Florida International (FIU), Liberty

Sun Belt: Coastal Carolina, Georgia Southern, Georgia State, Louisiana-Monroe (ULM), South Alabama (USA), Troy.



Division I football competition will be organized into tiers. The Premier Tier will consist of 72 teams organized into 8 groups/leagues/districts/pools of 9 schools each. Each group will play a round-robin of 8 games.

The Top 2 in each group will advance to the playoffs.

8 losers in the first round will be bowl eligible. 4 losers in the quarterfinal may be paired into two bowls.

The semifinals will be played in NYD bowl games with the finals in mid-January.

Schools will continue to be members of their conferences, and will be responsible for scheduling their other games. It is likely that there will be considerable overlap between the groups and conferences.



Finances:

Television rights for group play will be owned by the home school. They may continue to share media revenue with the schools in their conference.

Media rights for the playoffs will be owned by the NCAA - but with a guarantee that the revenues will be largely distributed to participating teams (95%?).

The 72-schools participating in the Premier Tier each season will get a payment. There might be a mild differentiation based on performance in group play. For example if each school received one share for participation, they might gain 1/8 share for each win. An 8-0 team would get twice as much as a 0-8 team.

Additional shares will be distributed to the schools in the playoffs.

It will be up to each conference to determine how this income is distributed.



There will be similar 1st and 2nd division tiers. The hard division between FBS and FCS will be eliminated. The maximum number of football scholarships would be based on the total number of scholarships (40%?). If a current FCS schools wished to add 2 football scholarships (63+2), they would have to add 3 additional scholarships in other sports.

There might be restrictions on how fast the number of scholarships changes (perhaps five per year). If NDSU wants to compete at the premier level, they could upgrade their scholarships from 63 to 85 over five years.

There could be additional requirements for playing in the Premier Division, such as a 40,000-seat stadium.
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Aren't all the regions done voting? Are you going to add to this post with the other regions?
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The 3 southern and 3 western areas have completed voting.

30 schools have been selected for the first 45.

ACC: Clemson, Florida State, Miami(FL), North Carolina, North Carolina State, Virginia, Virginia Tech.

B1G: Nebraska

Big 12: Baylor, BYU, Houston, Texas Tech.

Pac 12: Colorado, Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Utah, Washington.

SEC: Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Texas A&M.



The following schools have qualified for the repechage, that will select 27 from among 60 nationally.

AAC: East Carolina (ECU), Memphis, Rice, South Florida (USF), Tulane, Tulsa, Southern Methodist (SMU), UAB, UTSA.

ACC: Duke, Georgia Tech, Wake Forest

B12: Central Florida (UCF), Kansas, K-State, Oklahoma State (OSU), TCU.

CUSA: Jacksonville State, Louisiana Tech, Middle Tennessee (MTSU), New Mexico State (NMSU), UTEP,

MtW: AFA, Boise State, CSU, Fresno State, Hawaii, New Mexico, San Diego State, Utah State, Wyoming.

Pac 12: Arizona, Arizona State, Cal, Oregon State, Washington State.

SEC: South Carolina, Vanderbilt

Sun Belt: Appalachian State, Louisiana (Lafayette), Old Dominion, Southern Miss.



The following schools are excluded from the initial selection.

AAC: Charlotte, Florida Atlantic (FAU), North Texas.

CUSA: Florida International (FIU), Liberty, NMSU, Sam Houston.

MtW: Nevada (Reno), San Jose State, UNLV.

Sun Belt: Coastal Carolina, Georgia Southern, Georgia State, Louisiana-Monroe (ULM), South Alabama (USA), Texas State, Troy.



Division I football competition will be organized into tiers. The Premier Tier will consist of 72 teams organized into 8 groups/leagues/districts/pools of 9 schools each. Each group will play a round-robin of 8 games.

The Top 2 in each group will advance to the playoffs.

8 losers in the first round will be bowl eligible. 4 losers in the quarterfinal may be paired into two bowls.

The semifinals will be played in NYD bowl games with the finals in mid-January.

Schools will continue to be members of their conferences, and will be responsible for scheduling their other games. It is likely that there will be considerable overlap between the groups and conferences.



Finances:

Television rights for group play will be owned by the home school. They may continue to share media revenue with the schools in their conference.

Media rights for the playoffs will be owned by the NCAA - but with a guarantee that the revenues will be largely distributed to participating teams (95%?).

The 72-schools participating in the Premier Tier each season will get a payment. There might be a mild differentiation based on performance in group play. For example if each school received one share for participation, they might gain 1/8 share for each win. An 8-0 team would get twice as much as a 0-8 team.

Additional shares will be distributed to the schools in the playoffs.

It will be up to each conference to determine how this income is distributed.



There will be similar 1st and 2nd division tiers. The hard division between FBS and FCS will be eliminated. The maximum number of football scholarships would be based on the total number of scholarships (40%?). If a current FCS schools wished to add 2 football scholarships (63+2), they would have to add 3 additional scholarships in other sports.

There might be restrictions on how fast the number of scholarships changes (perhaps five per year). If NDSU wants to compete at the premier level, they could upgrade their scholarships from 63 to 85 over five years.

There could be additional requirements for playing in the Premier Division, such as a 40,000-seat stadium.
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(04-29-2022 09:38 AM)cottager Wrote:  Aren't all the regions done voting? Are you going to add to this post with the other regions?
There is one region that has not closed yet.
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All 9 regions have completed voting.

44* schools have been elected to the Premier Division. Purdue and Louisville tied for fifth in their region. They will have a playoff to determine which is the 45th school.

ACC(9): Clemson, Florida State, Miami(FL), North Carolina, North Carolina State, Pitt, Syracuse, Virginia, Virginia Tech.

B1G(9): Iowa, Maryland, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Nebraska, Ohio State (OSU), Penn State, Wisconsin

Big 12(5): Baylor, BYU, Houston, Texas Tech, West Virginia

Independent(1): Notre Dame

Pac 12(7): Colorado, Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Utah, Washington.

SEC(13): Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Texas A&M.



The following schools have qualified for the repechage, that will select 27 from among 60 nationally.

AAC(11): East Carolina (ECU), Memphis, Navy, Rice, South Florida (USF), Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, Southern Methodist (SMU), UAB, UTSA.

ACC(5): Boston College, Duke, Georgia Tech, Louisville, Wake Forest

B1G(5): Illinois, Indiana, Northwestern, Purdue, Rutgers,

B12(7): Central Florida (UCF), Cincinnati, Iowa State, Kansas, K-State, Oklahoma State (OSU), TCU.

CUSA(5): Jacksonville State, Louisiana Tech, Middle Tennessee (MTSU), New Mexico State (NMSU), UTEP,

Independent(3): Army, UMass, UConn.

MAC(1): Buffalo

MtW(9): AFA, Boise State, CSU, Fresno State, Hawaii, New Mexico, San Diego State, Utah State, Wyoming.

Pac 12(5): Arizona, Arizona State, Cal, Oregon State, Washington State.

SEC(3): Kentucky, South Carolina, Vanderbilt

Sun Belt(6): Appalachian State, James Madison, Louisiana (Lafayette), Marshall, Old Dominion, Southern Miss.



The following schools are excluded from the initial selection.

AAC(3): Charlotte, Florida Atlantic (FAU), North Texas.

CUSA(4): Florida International (FIU), Liberty, NMSU, Sam Houston, Western Kentucky (WKU)

MAC(11): Akron, Ball State, Bowling Green, Central Michigan (CMU), Eastern Michigan (EMU), Kent State, Miami(OH), Northern Illinois, Ohio, Toledo, Western Michigan (WMU),

MtW(3): Nevada (Reno), San Jose State, UNLV.

Sun Belt(8): Arkansas State, Coastal Carolina, Georgia Southern, Georgia State, Louisiana-Monroe (ULM), South Alabama (USA), Texas State, Troy.



Division I football competition will be organized into tiers. The Premier Tier will consist of 72 teams organized into 8 groups/leagues/districts/pools of 9 schools each. Each group will play a round-robin of 8 games.

The Top 2 in each group will advance to the playoffs.

8 losers in the first round will be bowl eligible. 4 losers in the quarterfinal may be paired into two bowls.

The semifinals will be played in NYD bowl games with the finals in mid-January.

Schools will continue to be members of their conferences, and will be responsible for scheduling their other games. It is likely that there will be considerable overlap between the groups and conferences.



Finances:

Television rights for group play will be owned by the home school. They may continue to share media revenue with the schools in their conference.

Media rights for the playoffs will be owned by the NCAA - but with a guarantee that the revenues will be largely distributed to participating teams (95%?).

The 72-schools participating in the Premier Tier each season will get a payment. There might be a mild differentiation based on performance in group play. For example if each school received one share for participation, they might gain 1/8 share for each win. An 8-0 team would get twice as much as a 0-8 team.

Additional shares will be distributed to the schools in the playoffs.

It will be up to each conference to determine how this income is distributed.



There will be similar 1st and 2nd division tiers. The hard division between FBS and FCS will be eliminated. The maximum number of football scholarships would be based on the total number of scholarships (40%?). If a current FCS schools wished to add 2 football scholarships (63+2), they would have to add 3 additional scholarships in other sports.

There might be restrictions on how fast the number of scholarships changes (perhaps five per year). If NDSU wants to compete at the premier level, they could upgrade their scholarships from 63 to 85 over five years.

There could be additional requirements for playing in the Premier Division, such as a 40,000-seat stadium.



The repechage will be organized in 4 regions:

West: WA, OR, CA, MT, WY, CO, NM, AZ, UT, NV, ID, WA, OR, CA, HI, AK.

South: TX, LA, MS, AL, FL, GA, SC

Midwest: MI, OH, IN, KY, TN, AR, MO, IL, WI, IA, MN, ND, SD, NE, KS, OK

North Atlantic: ME, NH, VT, MA, RI, CT, NY, NJ, PA, DE, MD, DC, WV, VA, NC
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RE: Premier Football
The first repechage has been completed, and Arizona State, California, Arizona, and Boise State have been elected to the Premier Division.

San Diego State, Washington State, Oregon State, Colorado State, and Fresno State will have a last chance.

Air Force Academy, Utah State, Wyoming, New Mexico, New Mexico State, and Hawaii are eliminated from consideration.



48 schools have been elected to the Premier Division.

ACC(9): Clemson, Florida State, Miami(FL), North Carolina, North Carolina State, Pitt, Syracuse, Virginia, Virginia Tech.

B1G(9): Iowa, Maryland, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Nebraska, Ohio State (OSU), Penn State, Wisconsin

Big 12(5): Baylor, BYU, Houston, Texas Tech, West Virginia

Independent(1): Notre Dame

MtW(1): Boise State

Pac 12(10): Arizona, Arizona State, California, Colorado, Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Utah, Washington.

SEC(13): Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Texas A&M.



The following 5 schools remain eligible for the final national selection.

MtW(3): Colorado State, Fresno State, San Diego State.

Pac 12(2): Oregon State, Washington State.



The following schools have qualified for the repechage, that will select 27 from among 60 nationally.

AAC(11): East Carolina (ECU), Memphis, Navy, Rice, South Florida (USF), Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, Southern Methodist (SMU), UAB, UTSA.

ACC(5): Boston College, Duke, Georgia Tech, Louisville, Wake Forest

B1G(5): Illinois, Indiana, Northwestern, Purdue, Rutgers,

B12(7): Central Florida (UCF), Cincinnati, Iowa State, Kansas, K-State, Oklahoma State (OSU), TCU.

CUSA(5): Jacksonville State, Louisiana Tech, Middle Tennessee (MTSU), UTEP,

Independent(3): Army, UMass, UConn.

MAC(1): Buffalo

SEC(3): Kentucky, South Carolina, Vanderbilt

Sun Belt(6): Appalachian State, James Madison, Louisiana (Lafayette), Marshall, Old Dominion, Southern Miss.



The following schools are excluded from the initial selection.

AAC(3): Charlotte, Florida Atlantic (FAU), North Texas.

CUSA(5): Florida International (FIU), Liberty, NMSU, Sam Houston, Western Kentucky (WKU)

MAC(11): Akron, Ball State, Bowling Green, Central Michigan (CMU), Eastern Michigan (EMU), Kent State, Miami(OH), Northern Illinois, Ohio, Toledo, Western Michigan (WMU),

MtW(8): AFA, Hawaii, Nevada (Reno), New Mexico, Utah State, San Jose State, UNLV, Wyoming.

Sun Belt(8): Arkansas State, Coastal Carolina, Georgia Southern, Georgia State, Louisiana-Monroe (ULM), South Alabama (USA), Texas State, Troy.



Division I football competition will be organized into tiers. The Premier Tier will consist of 72 teams organized into 8 groups/leagues/districts/pools of 9 schools each. Each group will play a round-robin of 8 games.

The Top 2 in each group will advance to the playoffs.

8 losers in the first round will be bowl eligible. 4 losers in the quarterfinal may be paired into two bowls.

The semifinals will be played in NYD bowl games with the finals in mid-January.

Schools will continue to be members of their conferences, and will be responsible for scheduling their other games. It is likely that there will be considerable overlap between the groups and conferences.



Finances:

Television rights for group play will be owned by the home school. They may continue to share media revenue with the schools in their conference.

Media rights for the playoffs will be owned by the NCAA - but with a guarantee that the revenues will be largely distributed to participating teams (95%?).

The 72-schools participating in the Premier Tier each season will get a payment. There might be a mild differentiation based on performance in group play. For example if each school received one share for participation, they might gain 1/8 share for each win. An 8-0 team would get twice as much as a 0-8 team.

Additional shares will be distributed to the schools in the playoffs.

It will be up to each conference to determine how this income is distributed.



There will be similar 1st and 2nd division tiers. The hard division between FBS and FCS will be eliminated. The maximum number of football scholarships would be based on the total number of scholarships (40%?). If a current FCS schools wished to add 2 football scholarships (63+2), they would have to add 3 additional scholarships in other sports.

There might be restrictions on how fast the number of scholarships changes (perhaps five per year). If NDSU wants to compete at the premier level, they could upgrade their scholarships from 63 to 85 over five years.

There could be additional requirements for playing in the Premier Division, such as a 40,000-seat stadium.



The repechage will be organized in 4 regions:

West: WA, OR, CA, MT, WY, CO, NM, AZ, UT, NV, ID, WA, OR, CA, HI, AK.

South: TX, LA, MS, AL, FL, GA, SC

Midwest: MI, OH, IN, KY, TN, AR, MO, IL, WI, IA, MN, ND, SD, NE, KS, OK

North Atlantic: ME, NH, VT, MA, RI, CT, NY, NJ, PA, DE, MD, DC, WV, VA, NC
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RE: Premier Football
The first repechage has been completed, and Arizona State, California, Arizona, and Boise State have been elected to the Premier Division.

San Diego State, Washington State, Oregon State, Colorado State, and Fresno State will have a last chance.

Air Force Academy, Utah State, Wyoming, New Mexico, New Mexico State, and Hawaii are eliminated from consideration.

The second repechage has been completed. Louisville beat Purdue to break a first round tie and be elected. But Purdue, along with Cincinnati, Oklahoma State, and Kentucky finished in the top 4 to be elected to the Premier Division.

Kansas State, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa State, Memphis, Kansas, and Northwestern have a last chance.

Vanderbilt, Tulsa, and Middle Tennessee (MTSU) are eliminated from further consideration.



53 schools have been elected to the Premier Division.

ACC(10): Clemson, Florida State, Louisville, Miami(FL), North Carolina, North Carolina State, Pitt, Syracuse, Virginia, Virginia Tech.

B1G(10): Iowa, Maryland, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Nebraska, Ohio State (OSU), Penn State, Purdue, Wisconsin

Big 12(7): Baylor, BYU, Cincinnati, Houston, Oklahoma State (OSU), Texas Tech, West Virginia

Independent(1): Notre Dame

MtW(1): Boise State

Pac 12(10): Arizona, Arizona State, California, Colorado, Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Utah, Washington.

SEC(14): Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Texas A&M.



The following 12 schools remain eligible for the final national selection.

AAC(1): Memphis

B1G(3): Indiana, Illinois, Northwestern

B12(3): Iowas State, Kansas, K-State

MtW(3): Colorado State, Fresno State, San Diego State.

Pac 12(2): Oregon State, Washington State.



The following schools have qualified for the repechage, that will select 27 from among 60 nationally.

AAC(9): East Carolina (ECU), Navy, Rice, South Florida (USF), Temple, Tulane, Southern Methodist (SMU), UAB, UTSA.

ACC(4): Boston College, Duke, Georgia Tech, Wake Forest

B1G(1): Rutgers,

B12(2): Central Florida (UCF), TCU.

CUSA(3): Jacksonville State, Louisiana Tech, UTEP,

Independent(3): Army, UMass, UConn.

MAC(1): Buffalo

SEC(1): South Carolina

Sun Belt(6): Appalachian State, James Madison, Louisiana (Lafayette), Marshall, Old Dominion, Southern Miss.



The following schools are excluded from the initial selection.

AAC(4): Charlotte, Florida Atlantic (FAU), North Texas, Tulsa

CUSA(6): Florida International (FIU), Liberty, Middle Tennessee (MTSU), NMSU, Sam Houston, Western Kentucky (WKU)

MAC(11): Akron, Ball State, Bowling Green, Central Michigan (CMU), Eastern Michigan (EMU), Kent State, Miami(OH), Northern Illinois, Ohio, Toledo, Western Michigan (WMU),

MtW(8): AFA, Hawaii, Nevada (Reno), New Mexico, Utah State, San Jose State, UNLV, Wyoming.

SEC(1): Vanderbilt

Sun Belt(8): Arkansas State, Coastal Carolina, Georgia Southern, Georgia State, Louisiana-Monroe (ULM), South Alabama (USA), Texas State, Troy.



Division I football competition will be organized into tiers. The Premier Tier will consist of 72 teams organized into 8 groups/leagues/districts/pools of 9 schools each. Each group will play a round-robin of 8 games.

The Top 2 in each group will advance to the playoffs.

8 losers in the first round will be bowl eligible. 4 losers in the quarterfinal may be paired into two bowls.

The semifinals will be played in NYD bowl games with the finals in mid-January.

Schools will continue to be members of their conferences, and will be responsible for scheduling their other games. It is likely that there will be considerable overlap between the groups and conferences.



Finances:

Television rights for group play will be owned by the home school. They may continue to share media revenue with the schools in their conference.

Media rights for the playoffs will be owned by the NCAA - but with a guarantee that the revenues will be largely distributed to participating teams (95%?).

The 72-schools participating in the Premier Tier each season will get a payment. There might be a mild differentiation based on performance in group play. For example if each school received one share for participation, they might gain 1/8 share for each win. An 8-0 team would get twice as much as a 0-8 team.

Additional shares will be distributed to the schools in the playoffs.

It will be up to each conference to determine how this income is distributed.



There will be similar 1st and 2nd division tiers. The hard division between FBS and FCS will be eliminated. The maximum number of football scholarships would be based on the total number of scholarships (40%?). If a current FCS schools wished to add 2 football scholarships (63+2), they would have to add 3 additional scholarships in other sports.

There might be restrictions on how fast the number of scholarships changes (perhaps five per year). If NDSU wants to compete at the premier level, they could upgrade their scholarships from 63 to 85 over five years.

There could be additional requirements for playing in the Premier Division, such as a 40,000-seat stadium.



The repechage will be organized in 4 regions:

West: WA, OR, CA, MT, WY, CO, NM, AZ, UT, NV, ID, WA, OR, CA, HI, AK.

South: TX, LA, MS, AL, FL, GA, SC

Midwest: MI, OH, IN, KY, TN, AR, MO, IL, WI, IA, MN, ND, SD, NE, KS, OK

North Atlantic: ME, NH, VT, MA, RI, CT, NY, NJ, PA, DE, MD, DC, WV, VA, NC
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The third repechage has been completed. Boston College, Wake Forest, Navy, and Rutgers have been elected to the Premier Division.

East Carolina, Army, Duke, UConn, Appalachian State, Marshall, and Buffalo have a last chance.

UMass, Temple, Old Dominion, and James Madison are eliminated from further consideration.

The second repechage has been completed. Louisville beat Purdue to break a first round tie and be elected. But Purdue, along with Cincinnati, Oklahoma State, and Kentucky finished in the top 4 to be elected to the Premier Division.

Kansas State, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa State, Memphis, Kansas, and Northwestern have a last chance.

Vanderbilt, Tulsa, and Middle Tennessee (MTSU) are eliminated from further consideration.

The first repechage has been completed, and Arizona State, California, Arizona, and Boise State have been elected to the Premier Division.

San Diego State, Washington State, Oregon State, Colorado State, and Fresno State will have a last chance.

Air Force Academy, Utah State, Wyoming, New Mexico, New Mexico State, and Hawaii are eliminated from consideration.



57 schools have been elected to the Premier Division.

AAC(1): Navy

ACC(12): Boston College, Clemson, Florida State, Louisville, Miami(FL), North Carolina, North Carolina State, Pitt, Syracuse, Virginia, Virginia Tech Wake Forest.

B1G(11): Iowa, Maryland, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Nebraska, Ohio State (OSU), Penn State, Purdue, Rutgers, Wisconsin

Big 12(7): Baylor, BYU, Cincinnati, Houston, Oklahoma State (OSU), Texas Tech, West Virginia

Independent(1): Notre Dame

MtW(1): Boise State

Pac 12(10): Arizona, Arizona State, California, Colorado, Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Utah, Washington.

SEC(14): Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Texas A&M.



The following 19 schools remain eligible for the final national selection.

AAC(2): East Carolina (ECU), Memphis

ACC(1): Duke

B1G(3): Indiana, Illinois, Northwestern

B12(3): Iowas State, Kansas, K-State

Independent(2): Army, UConn

MAC(1): Buffalo

MtW(3): Colorado State, Fresno State, San Diego State.

Pac 12(2): Oregon State, Washington State.

Sun Belt(2): Appalachian State, Marshall



The following schools have qualified for the repechage, that will select 27 from among 60 nationally.

AAC(6): Rice, South Florida (USF), Tulane, Southern Methodist (SMU), UAB, UTSA.

ACC(1): Georgia Tech

B12(2): Central Florida (UCF), TCU.

CUSA(3): Jacksonville State, Louisiana Tech, UTEP,

SEC(1): South Carolina

Sun Belt(2): Louisiana (Lafayette), Southern Miss.



The following schools are excluded from the initial selection.

AAC(5): Charlotte, Florida Atlantic (FAU), North Texas, Temple, Tulsa

CUSA(6): Florida International (FIU), Liberty, Middle Tennessee (MTSU), NMSU, Sam Houston, Western Kentucky (WKU)

Independent(1): UMass

MAC(11): Akron, Ball State, Bowling Green, Central Michigan (CMU), Eastern Michigan (EMU), Kent State, Miami(OH), Northern Illinois, Ohio, Toledo, Western Michigan (WMU),

MtW(8): AFA, Hawaii, Nevada (Reno), New Mexico, Utah State, San Jose State, UNLV, Wyoming.

SEC(1): Vanderbilt

Sun Belt(10): Arkansas State, Coastal Carolina, Georgia Southern, Georgia State, James Madison (JMU), Louisiana-Monroe (ULM), Old Dominion (ODU), South Alabama (USA), Texas State, Troy.



Division I football competition will be organized into tiers. The Premier Tier will consist of 72 teams organized into 8 groups/leagues/districts/pools of 9 schools each. Each group will play a round-robin of 8 games.

The Top 2 in each group will advance to the playoffs.

8 losers in the first round will be bowl eligible. 4 losers in the quarterfinal may be paired into two bowls.

The semifinals will be played in NYD bowl games with the finals in mid-January.

Schools will continue to be members of their conferences, and will be responsible for scheduling their other games. It is likely that there will be considerable overlap between the groups and conferences.



Finances:

Television rights for group play will be owned by the home school. They may continue to share media revenue with the schools in their conference.

Media rights for the playoffs will be owned by the NCAA - but with a guarantee that the revenues will be largely distributed to participating teams (95%?).

The 72-schools participating in the Premier Tier each season will get a payment. There might be a mild differentiation based on performance in group play. For example if each school received one share for participation, they might gain 1/8 share for each win. An 8-0 team would get twice as much as a 0-8 team.

Additional shares will be distributed to the schools in the playoffs.

It will be up to each conference to determine how this income is distributed.



There will be similar 1st and 2nd division tiers. The hard division between FBS and FCS will be eliminated. The maximum number of football scholarships would be based on the total number of scholarships (40%?). If a current FCS schools wished to add 2 football scholarships (63+2), they would have to add 3 additional scholarships in other sports.

There might be restrictions on how fast the number of scholarships changes (perhaps five per year). If NDSU wants to compete at the premier level, they could upgrade their scholarships from 63 to 85 over five years.

There could be additional requirements for playing in the Premier Division, such as a 40,000-seat stadium.



The repechage will be organized in 4 regions:

West: WA, OR, CA, MT, WY, CO, NM, AZ, UT, NV, ID, WA, OR, CA, HI, AK.

South: TX, LA, MS, AL, FL, GA, SC

Midwest: MI, OH, IN, KY, TN, AR, MO, IL, WI, IA, MN, ND, SD, NE, KS, OK

North Atlantic: ME, NH, VT, MA, RI, CT, NY, NJ, PA, DE, MD, DC, WV, VA, NC
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You put Navy as an independent, is there a reason for this? I see that you’re including schools in their future conferences is Navy going independent in the near future? Or is it just a mistake?

I’m really enjoying this exercise by the way. Thanks for doing the leg work on this.
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(05-04-2022 02:59 PM)cottager Wrote:  You put Navy as an independent, is there a reason for this? I see that you’re including schools in their future conferences is Navy going independent in the near future? Or is it just a mistake?

I’m really enjoying this exercise by the way. Thanks for doing the leg work on this.
The reason is I was careless.

This group had UConn, UMass, and Army in it, and I sometimes get mixed up on Army and Navy since they in the Patriot League for most sports, but they are different for football.

The reason that I am using future conferences is that I had (have) an idea to start the existing (in 2023/2025) conferences as the initial leagues. The Top 6/7 each season would remain in the Premier Division. The others would be in playoffs with each other along with the FCS conference champions.

The playoff teams from the SEC, B1G, etc. would shred CUSA, Sun Belt so that they would have less than 9 schools and force to move into other groups. It would be a sort of evolution over a few years.
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The fourth and final repechage has been completed. South Carolina, Georgia Tech, TCU, and UCF have been selected.

Southern Methodist (SMU), Louisiana (Lafayette), South Florida (USF), Southern Mississippi (USM), and UAB have a last chance.

UTSA, Tulane, Jacksonville State, Rice, Louisiana Tech, and UTEP are eliminated.

The third repechage has been completed. Boston College, Wake Forest, Navy, and Rutgers have been elected to the Premier Division.

East Carolina, Army, Duke, UConn, Appalachian State, Marshall, and Buffalo have a last chance.

UMass, Temple, Old Dominion, and James Madison are eliminated from further consideration.

The second repechage has been completed. Louisville beat Purdue to break a first round tie and be elected. But Purdue, along with Cincinnati, Oklahoma State, and Kentucky finished in the top 4 to be elected to the Premier Division.

Kansas State, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa State, Memphis, Kansas, and Northwestern have a last chance.

Vanderbilt, Tulsa, and Middle Tennessee (MTSU) are eliminated from further consideration.

The first repechage has been completed, and Arizona State, California, Arizona, and Boise State have been elected to the Premier Division.

San Diego State, Washington State, Oregon State, Colorado State, and Fresno State will have a last chance.

Air Force Academy, Utah State, Wyoming, New Mexico, New Mexico State, and Hawaii are eliminated from consideration.



61 schools have been elected to the Premier Division.

AAC(1): Navy

ACC(13): Boston College, Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Louisville, Miami(FL), North Carolina, North Carolina State, Pitt, Syracuse, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest.

B1G(11): Iowa, Maryland, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Nebraska, Ohio State (OSU), Penn State, Purdue, Rutgers, Wisconsin

Big 12(9): Baylor, BYU, Central Florida (UCF), Cincinnati, Houston, Oklahoma State (OSU), TCU, Texas Tech, West Virginia

Independent(1): Notre Dame

MtW(1): Boise State

Pac 12(10): Arizona, Arizona State, California, Colorado, Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Utah, Washington.

SEC(15): Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Missouri, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Texas A&M.



The following 24 schools remain eligible for the final national selection.

AAC(5): East Carolina (ECU), Memphis, South Florida (USF), Southern Methodist (SMU), UAB

ACC(1): Duke

B1G(3): Indiana, Illinois, Northwestern

B12(3): Iowa State, Kansas, K-State

Independent(2): Army, UConn

MAC(1): Buffalo

MtW(3): Colorado State, Fresno State, San Diego State.

Pac 12(2): Oregon State, Washington State.

Sun Belt(4): Appalachian State, Louisiana (Lafayette), Marshall, Southern Mississippi (USM)



The following schools are excluded from the initial selection.

AAC(8): Charlotte, Florida Atlantic (FAU), North Texas, Rice, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, UTSA,

CUSA(9): Florida International (FIU), Jacksonville State (AL), Liberty, Louisiana Tech, Middle Tennessee (MTSU), NMSU, Sam Houston, UTEP, Western Kentucky (WKU)

Independent(1): UMass

MAC(11): Akron, Ball State, Bowling Green, Central Michigan (CMU), Eastern Michigan (EMU), Kent State, Miami(OH), Northern Illinois, Ohio, Toledo, Western Michigan (WMU),

MtW(8): AFA, Hawaii, Nevada (Reno), New Mexico, Utah State, San Jose State, UNLV, Wyoming.

SEC(1): Vanderbilt

Sun Belt(10): Arkansas State, Coastal Carolina, Georgia Southern, Georgia State, James Madison (JMU), Louisiana-Monroe (ULM), Old Dominion (ODU), South Alabama (USA), Texas State, Troy.



Summary of Selection:

There are 133 FBS schools. 61 have been elected. 48 have been eliminated.

24 have a chance for selection in a final national contest.

Four of the P5 conferences have a chance for all to be selected:

ACC: 13 of 14 selected, 1 alive.
B1G: 11 of 14 selected, 3 alive.
B12: 9 of 12 selected, 3 alive.
P12: 10 of 12 selected, 2 alive.

SEC is the only P5 conference to have a school eliminated, Vanderbilt.

SEC: 15 of 16 selected, 1 eliminated.

Three other schools have been selected: Boise State, Navy, and Notre Dame.

G5 conference status:

AAC(14 total) Navy elected, 5 alive, 8 eliminated.
CUSA(9 total) All 9 eliminated.
MAC(12 total) 1 alive, 11 eliminated.
MtW(12 total) Boise State elected, 3 alive, 8 eliminated.
Sun Belt(14 total) 4 alive, 10 eliminated.

Independents(4) Notre Dame elected, 2 alive, 1 eliminated.



Division I football competition will be organized into tiers. The Premier Tier will consist of 72 teams organized into 8 groups/leagues/districts/pools of 9 schools each. Each group will play a round-robin of 8 games.

The Top 2 in each group will advance to the playoffs.

8 losers in the first round will be bowl eligible. 4 losers in the quarterfinal may be paired into two bowls.

The semifinals will be played in NYD bowl games with the finals in mid-January.

Schools will continue to be members of their conferences, and will be responsible for scheduling their other games. It is likely that there will be considerable overlap between the groups and conferences.



Finances:

Television rights for group play will be owned by the home school. They may continue to share media revenue with the schools in their conference.

Media rights for the playoffs will be owned by the NCAA - but with a guarantee that the revenues will be largely distributed to participating teams (95%?).

The 72-schools participating in the Premier Tier each season will get a payment. There might be a mild differentiation based on performance in group play. For example if each school received one share for participation, they might gain 1/8 share for each win. An 8-0 team would get twice as much as a 0-8 team.

Additional shares will be distributed to the schools in the playoffs.

It will be up to each conference to determine how this income is distributed.



There will be similar 1st and 2nd division tiers. The hard division between FBS and FCS will be eliminated. The maximum number of football scholarships would be based on the total number of scholarships (40%?). If a current FCS schools wished to add 2 football scholarships (63+2), they would have to add 3 additional scholarships in other sports.

There might be restrictions on how fast the number of scholarships changes (perhaps five per year). If NDSU wants to compete at the premier level, they could upgrade their scholarships from 63 to 85 over five years.

There could be additional requirements for playing in the Premier Division, such as a 40,000-seat stadium.
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The final 11 have been selected.

Indiana, Iowa State, Northwestern, Kansas State, Illinois, San Diego State, Washington State, Oregon State, Memphis, Kansas, and Duke.

Just missing are Southern Methodist, Appalachian State, and East Carolina.



The 72 schools elected to the Premier Division.

AAC(2): Memphis, Navy

ACC(14): Boston College, Clemson, Duke, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Louisville, Miami(FL), North Carolina, North Carolina State, Pitt, Syracuse, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest.

B1G(14): Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maryland, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Ohio State (OSU), Penn State, Purdue, Rutgers, Wisconsin

Big 12(12): Baylor, BYU, Central Florida (UCF), Cincinnati, Houston, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma State (OSU), TCU, Texas Tech, West Virginia

Independent(1): Notre Dame

MtW(2): Boise State, San Diego State

Pac 12(12): Arizona, Arizona State, California, Colorado, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Utah, Washington, Washington State

SEC(15): Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Missouri, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Texas A&M.



The following 61 schools form the Championship Division (borrowing English soccer nomenclature the Divisions are: Premier, Championship, 1st, and 2nd). 11 top performing schools from FCS will be added.

AAC(12): Charlotte, East Carolina, Florida Atlantic (FAU), North Texas, Rice, South Florida (USF), Southern Methodist (SMU), Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, UAB, UTSA,

CUSA(9): Florida International (FIU), Jacksonville State (AL), Liberty, Louisiana Tech, Middle Tennessee (MTSU), NMSU, Sam Houston, UTEP, Western Kentucky (WKU)

Independent(3): Army, UConn, UMass

MAC(12): Akron, Ball State, Bowling Green, Buffalo, Central Michigan (CMU), Eastern Michigan (EMU), Kent State, Miami(OH), Northern Illinois, Ohio, Toledo, Western Michigan (WMU),

MtW(10): AFA, Colorado State, Fresno State, Hawaii, Nevada (Reno), New Mexico, Utah State, San Jose State, UNLV, Wyoming.

SEC(1): Vanderbilt

Sun Belt(14): Appalachian State, Arkansas State, Coastal Carolina, Georgia Southern, Georgia State, James Madison (JMU), Louisiana (Lafayette),
Louisiana-Monroe (ULM), Marshall, Old Dominion (ODU), South Alabama (USA), Southern Mississippi (USM), Texas State, Troy.



Summary of Selection:

There are 133 FBS schools. 72 have been elected. 61 have been eliminated.

Of the 68 P5 schools, all but Vanderbilt(SEC) were selected.

In addition, one independent, Notre Dame; two AAC, Memphis and Navy; and two MtW, Boise State and San Diego State were elected.

AAC(14 total) Memphis and Navy elected, 12 eliminated.
CUSA(9 total) All 9 eliminated.
MAC(12 total) All 12 eliminated.
MtW(12 total) Boise State and San Diego State elected, 10 eliminated.
Sun Belt(14 total) All 14 eliminated.
Independents(4) Notre Dame elected, 3 eliminated.



Division I football competition will be organized into tiers. The Premier Tier will consist of 72 teams organized into 8 groups/leagues/districts/pools of 9 schools each. Each group will play a round-robin of 8 games.

The Top 2 in each group will advance to the playoffs.

8 losers in the first round will be bowl eligible. 4 losers in the quarterfinal may be paired into two bowls.

The semifinals will be played in NYD bowl games with the finals in mid-January.

Schools will continue to be members of their conferences, and will be responsible for scheduling their other games. It is likely that there will be considerable overlap between the groups and conferences.



Finances:

Television rights for group play will be owned by the home school. They may continue to share media revenue with the schools in their conference.

Media rights for the playoffs will be owned by the NCAA - but with a guarantee that the revenues will be largely distributed to participating teams (95%?).

The 72-schools participating in the Premier Tier each season will get a payment. There might be a mild differentiation based on performance in group play. For example if each school received one share for participation, they might gain 1/8 share for each win. An 8-0 team would get twice as much as a 0-8 team.

Additional shares will be distributed to the schools in the playoffs.

It will be up to each conference to determine how this income is distributed.



There will be similar 1st and 2nd division tiers. The hard division between FBS and FCS will be eliminated. The maximum number of football scholarships would be based on the total number of scholarships (40%?). If a current FCS schools wished to add 2 football scholarships (63+2), they would have to add 3 additional scholarships in other sports.

There might be restrictions on how fast the number of scholarships changes (perhaps five per year). If NDSU wants to compete at the premier level, they could upgrade their scholarships from 63 to 85 over five years.

There could be additional requirements for playing in the Premier Division, such as a 30,000-seat stadium.
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(05-10-2022 12:47 PM)jimrtex Wrote:  The final 11 have been selected.

Indiana, Iowa State, Northwestern, Kansas State, Illinois, San Diego State, Washington State, Oregon State, Memphis, Kansas, and Duke.

Just missing are Southern Methodist, Appalachian State, and East Carolina.



The 72 schools elected to the Premier Division.

AAC(2): Memphis, Navy

ACC(14): Boston College, Clemson, Duke, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Louisville, Miami(FL), North Carolina, North Carolina State, Pitt, Syracuse, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest.

B1G(14): Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maryland, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Ohio State (OSU), Penn State, Purdue, Rutgers, Wisconsin

Big 12(12): Baylor, BYU, Central Florida (UCF), Cincinnati, Houston, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma State (OSU), TCU, Texas Tech, West Virginia

Independent(1): Notre Dame

MtW(2): Boise State, San Diego State

Pac 12(12): Arizona, Arizona State, California, Colorado, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Utah, Washington, Washington State

SEC(15): Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Missouri, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Texas A&M.



The following 61 schools form the Championship Division (borrowing English soccer nomenclature the Divisions are: Premier, Championship, 1st, and 2nd). 11 top performing schools from FCS will be added.

AAC(12): Charlotte, East Carolina, Florida Atlantic (FAU), North Texas, Rice, South Florida (USF), Southern Methodist (SMU), Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, UAB, UTSA,

CUSA(9): Florida International (FIU), Jacksonville State (AL), Liberty, Louisiana Tech, Middle Tennessee (MTSU), NMSU, Sam Houston, UTEP, Western Kentucky (WKU)

Independent(3): Army, UConn, UMass

MAC(12): Akron, Ball State, Bowling Green, Buffalo, Central Michigan (CMU), Eastern Michigan (EMU), Kent State, Miami(OH), Northern Illinois, Ohio, Toledo, Western Michigan (WMU),

MtW(10): AFA, Colorado State, Fresno State, Hawaii, Nevada (Reno), New Mexico, Utah State, San Jose State, UNLV, Wyoming.

SEC(1): Vanderbilt

Sun Belt(14): Appalachian State, Arkansas State, Coastal Carolina, Georgia Southern, Georgia State, James Madison (JMU), Louisiana (Lafayette),
Louisiana-Monroe (ULM), Marshall, Old Dominion (ODU), South Alabama (USA), Southern Mississippi (USM), Texas State, Troy.



Summary of Selection:

There are 133 FBS schools. 72 have been elected. 61 have been eliminated.

Of the 68 P5 schools, all but Vanderbilt(SEC) were selected.

In addition, one independent, Notre Dame; two AAC, Memphis and Navy; and two MtW, Boise State and San Diego State were elected.

AAC(14 total) Memphis and Navy elected, 12 eliminated.
CUSA(9 total) All 9 eliminated.
MAC(12 total) All 12 eliminated.
MtW(12 total) Boise State and San Diego State elected, 10 eliminated.
Sun Belt(14 total) All 14 eliminated.
Independents(4) Notre Dame elected, 3 eliminated.

The voting of almost all P5 schools at the expense of some G5 schools that I think are more committed to quality football is a bit disappointing, but it sounds like you're planning some sort of promotion/relegation for this model, so the cream will rise over the course of a few years.

I'm excited to see the rest of what you propose, especially what the plan would be for 61 remaining FBS schools and the top FCS schools. Would there be just the two tiers or would you make a third tier of the bottom FCS schools?
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(05-10-2022 03:03 PM)cottager Wrote:  
(05-10-2022 12:47 PM)jimrtex Wrote:  The final 11 have been selected.

Indiana, Iowa State, Northwestern, Kansas State, Illinois, San Diego State, Washington State, Oregon State, Memphis, Kansas, and Duke.

Just missing are Southern Methodist, Appalachian State, and East Carolina.



The 72 schools elected to the Premier Division.

AAC(2): Memphis, Navy

ACC(14): Boston College, Clemson, Duke, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Louisville, Miami(FL), North Carolina, North Carolina State, Pitt, Syracuse, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest.

B1G(14): Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maryland, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Ohio State (OSU), Penn State, Purdue, Rutgers, Wisconsin

Big 12(12): Baylor, BYU, Central Florida (UCF), Cincinnati, Houston, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma State (OSU), TCU, Texas Tech, West Virginia

Independent(1): Notre Dame

MtW(2): Boise State, San Diego State

Pac 12(12): Arizona, Arizona State, California, Colorado, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Utah, Washington, Washington State

SEC(15): Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Missouri, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Texas A&M.



The following 61 schools form the Championship Division (borrowing English soccer nomenclature the Divisions are: Premier, Championship, 1st, and 2nd). 11 top performing schools from FCS will be added.

AAC(12): Charlotte, East Carolina, Florida Atlantic (FAU), North Texas, Rice, South Florida (USF), Southern Methodist (SMU), Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, UAB, UTSA,

CUSA(9): Florida International (FIU), Jacksonville State (AL), Liberty, Louisiana Tech, Middle Tennessee (MTSU), NMSU, Sam Houston, UTEP, Western Kentucky (WKU)

Independent(3): Army, UConn, UMass

MAC(12): Akron, Ball State, Bowling Green, Buffalo, Central Michigan (CMU), Eastern Michigan (EMU), Kent State, Miami(OH), Northern Illinois, Ohio, Toledo, Western Michigan (WMU),

MtW(10): AFA, Colorado State, Fresno State, Hawaii, Nevada (Reno), New Mexico, Utah State, San Jose State, UNLV, Wyoming.

SEC(1): Vanderbilt

Sun Belt(14): Appalachian State, Arkansas State, Coastal Carolina, Georgia Southern, Georgia State, James Madison (JMU), Louisiana (Lafayette),
Louisiana-Monroe (ULM), Marshall, Old Dominion (ODU), South Alabama (USA), Southern Mississippi (USM), Texas State, Troy.



Summary of Selection:

There are 133 FBS schools. 72 have been elected. 61 have been eliminated.

Of the 68 P5 schools, all but Vanderbilt(SEC) were selected.

In addition, one independent, Notre Dame; two AAC, Memphis and Navy; and two MtW, Boise State and San Diego State were elected.

AAC(14 total) Memphis and Navy elected, 12 eliminated.
CUSA(9 total) All 9 eliminated.
MAC(12 total) All 12 eliminated.
MtW(12 total) Boise State and San Diego State elected, 10 eliminated.
Sun Belt(14 total) All 14 eliminated.
Independents(4) Notre Dame elected, 3 eliminated.

The voting of almost all P5 schools at the expense of some G5 schools that I think are more committed to quality football is a bit disappointing, but it sounds like you're planning some sort of promotion/relegation for this model, so the cream will rise over the course of a few years.

I'm excited to see the rest of what you propose, especially what the plan would be for 61 remaining FBS schools and the top FCS schools. Would there be just the two tiers or would you make a third tier of the bottom FCS schools?
The remaining FCS schools would form two tiers.

This could conceptually be extended to DII (5th and 6th tiers) and DIII (7th through 9th tiers). Mary Hardin-Baylor might play Baylor for the national championship in the 2030's. Baylor would forget about that school down the Brazos or the other one down I-35.

The main difference between FCS and FBS is the number of scholarships. The squad sizes are the same, the rules are the same. It is not like if you had to decide whether to play 12-man or 11-man or have to have two feet in.

I'd completely wipe out the distinction between FBS and FCS. DI schools would be limited to some percentage (35% to 40%?) of their total scholarship count. Conferences might continue to have stricter limits - but since the main football competition would be outside conference play, schools could essentially compete as independents in football (this is in a sense what the MVFC and Pioneer League and Patriot League do now).

With a percentage value, schools wanting to offer more football scholarships would generally add more sports.

I have decided on a 30,000 minimum capacity to participate in the Premier Division. Temporary waivers would be granted to Oregon State while they are renovating their stadium, and San Diego State while they are building their new stadium (San Diego State could theoretically use SoFi Stadium, the Coliseum, or Rose Bowl).

A 40,000 minimum would cut out Wake Forest, Washington State, Navy, and Boise State.

Wake Forest and Navy could probably find an alternate stadium for their four home games, but WSU and Boise State would need to expand their stadiums. Playing in Seattle (for WSU) or Salt Lake (for Boise State) is likely out of the question.
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The numbers after each school are the Sagarin Ratings, and the schools are ordered by that rating. I hope to do a simulation similar to Crayton's, but this at least show potential standings. Oregon and UCLA would qualify for the playoffs, while Stanford and Arizona would be subject to possible relegation.

Pacific Group

Code:
Oregon                   79.96
UCLA                     78.93
Arizona State            76.68
Oregon State             74.68
California               71.55
Southern California      70.30
Washington               70.27
Stanford                 65.75
Arizona                  59.13

I had considered placing San Diego State and Washington State in this group which would place all 9 schools in the three Pacific states in this group, but I decided to place more emphasis on keeping conference schools together. It might even be possible for conferences to dictate which schools participate in "their" groups. So Colorado and Utah were kept out. Rather than splitting the Arizona Schools, I split off WSU which is the only other interior school, and is somewhat close to Boise State and BYU.

Western Group

Code:
Utah                     85.61
Iowa State               83.48
Kansas State             79.16
Boise State              78.94
BYU                      77.38
Washington State         74.58
San Diego State          73.74
Colorado                 65.64
Kansas                   55.51

Starting with the Utah and Colorado, WSU, San Diego State, Boise State and BYU, I then added three Big 12 schools near to Colorado. Iowa State was placed here rather than Nebraska, so that there are four Big 12 schools, and Nebraska is not isolated from the rest of the B1G.

Midwest Group

Code:
Wisconsin                84.44
Minnesota                80.53
Purdue                   80.53
Iowa                     80.43
Nebraska                 74.17
Louisville               73.75
Illinois                 69.71
Indiana                  64.91
Northwestern             63.64

The B1G may prefer this 8-6 split since it avoids having to divide Purdue and Indiana. The original configuration had Missouri, but the SEC did not want them to be isolated. Louisville is outside the ACC footprint, and is across the river from Indiana.

Northeast Group

Code:
Ohio State               93.55
Michigan                 90.00
Notre Dame               87.99
Pittsburgh               82.57
Penn State               81.68
Michigan State           81.27
Maryland                 72.19
Rutgers                  66.35
Navy                     64.38

This includes the 6 other B1G schools along with independent Notre Dame and G5 Navy. Pittsburgh is selected as the ACC representative because it is in the footprint of the other schools (between Penn State and Ohio State).

Southwest Group

Code:
Oklahoma State           88.37
Oklahoma                 88.01
Baylor                   86.26
Texas A&M                83.16
Texas                    77.83
Houston                  77.13
LSU                      76.74
Texas Tech               74.88
TCU                      70.75

This includes the 5 Big 12 and 3 SEC schools in Texas and Oklahoma. I had originally included Arkansas based on its past experience in the Southwest Conference and geographical nearness to Oklahoma. But I switched LSU in so that Arkansas and Missouri would be in the same group with other northern SEC schools (Kentucky and Tennessee). LSU has played Texas A&M 60 times, more for the Aggies than any non-Southwest Conference school, and more the Tigers than any non-SEC school except Tulane.

Central Group

Code:
Cincinnati               86.26
Mississippi              83.85
Kentucky                 80.88
Arkansas                 80.49
Tennessee                77.45
Mississippi State        75.63
West Virginia            74.14
Missouri                 69.50
Memphis                  67.38

This is somewhat of a tweener group. Cincinnati and West Virginia are both in the Big 12. Memphis clearly fits in a group with Arkansas, Tennessee, and Mississippi schools. I played around with Louisville and/or Pitt in this group, but ultimately the deciding factor was to bring Missouri in with 5 other SEC schools (even though Missouri is not southeastern).

Southeast Group

Code:
Georgia                  99.62
Alabama                  96.10
Auburn                   78.51
Miami-Florida            76.21
Florida                  74.82
Central Florida(UCF)     73.32
South Carolina           72.15
Florida State            71.74
Georgia Tech             64.44

States of Alabama, Florida, and Georgia. South Carolina is picked over Clemson because it keeps the SEC schools in three groups. Besides the battle between Georgia and Alabama for the #1 national seed, you have the possibility of FSU relegating.

Atlantic Group

Code:
Clemson                  86.36
NC State                 82.25
Wake Forest              80.62
North Carolina           72.82
Virginia                 71.61
Boston College           69.19
Virginia Tech            68.85
Syracuse                 67.85
Duke                     55.15

An all ACC group that includes BC and Syracuse, skipping Pitt which ended up in the Northeast Group.

Pac 12 is split 9 and 3.
SEC is split 4, 6, and 5 (Vanderbilt not in Premier Division).
B1G is split 8 and 6.
B12 is split 5, 4, 2, and 1 (with Cincinnati-West Virginia and UCF isolated)
ACC is split 3, 9, 1, and 1 (with Louisville and Pitt isolated).
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Switch Louisville and Missouri. Missouri doesn't belong in the SEC anyway.
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(05-11-2022 10:49 AM)BatonRougeEscapee Wrote:  Switch Louisville and Missouri. Missouri doesn't belong in the SEC anyway.
My model assumes that conferences could have some control over where their schools play, and that the SEC chose to have Missouri with their other schools.

The ACC and Louisville really didn't have the option since Louisville is relatively isolated. If you consider the location of the universities rather than the states it also makes sense. Louisville is just over 100 miles from Bloomington, Indiana.

The groups are dynamic so schools on the edges may change groups from year to year.
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It really doesn't make sense. Louisville has history with teams in Missouri's spot and vice versa. They are both outliers where you placed them. But this is your baby, so you do what you want. Somehow Rutgers got voted in on first ballot so this entire exercise is suspect. Enjoyable, but suspect.
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RE: Premier Football
To be honest, I don't quite understand the adherence to conferences considering how experimental this already is. Voting was conducted purely geographically, so I assumed conference placement would be conducted purely geographically as well. But, I suppose it's not a big difference either way.
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RE: Premier Football
There were 72 FBS schools in the first tier, leaving 61 to be placed in the second tier. We need 11 FCS schools to complete the second tier. We choose those schools who have had the best performance in the FCS playoffs over the last 10 seasons (2012-2021*). The Spring 2021 playoffs were fair enough to be included. The teams are ranked by games played. Teams receiving a first-round bye are credited with a game played. In addition the champion is given one more win.

An 11th place tie between Villanova and Kennesaw State was broken in favor of Villanova on the basis of more recent performance. Were we doing this for real, we would have continued compiling results through the 2024 season.

Code:
School                Games/Seasons
North Dakota State       54/10
South Dakota State       28/10
Eastern Washington       23/7
Montana State            15/5
Northern Iowa            13/6
New Hampshire            15/6
Montana                  12/5
Weber State              12/5
Wofford                  12/5
Villanova                10/5

Not surprisingly, there are 4 MVFC, 4 Big Sky, and 2 CAA teams, with Wofford representing the SoCon.

Southwest Group

Code:
Air Force                75.76
Fresno State             73.81
Utah State               73.31
Nevada                   72.12
Hawai'i                  63.46
Colorado State           61.69
San Jose State           60.42
Weber State              59.44
UNLV                     58.41

This is mostly Mountain West schools plus Weber State.

Great Northern Group

Code:
North Dakota State       76.27
South Dakota State       70.63
Wyoming                  66.90
Montana                  65.38
Montana State            65.13
Northern Illinois        65.06
Eastern Washington       64.86
Northern Iowa            63.86
Illinois State           49.97

7 FCS schools joined by Wyoming and Northern Illinois.

New Tex-Mex Group

Code:
SMU                      73.83
UTSA                     71.75
Sam Houston State        64.31
North Texas              59.71
UTEP                     57.52
Rice                     51.87
New Mexico               51.43
Texas State              51.14
New Mexico State         44.62

All the Texas and New Mexico schools. Sam Houston would be competitive.

Northeast Group

Code:
Army West Point          71.30
Kent State               61.22
Villanova                59.56
Buffalo                  57.52
Temple                   47.39
Akron                    44.80
Connecticut              42.52
New Hampshire            39.88
Massachusetts            37.03

Three most eastern MAC schools and schools in the northeastern. UConn and UMass would be battling to avoid relegation to the third tier (FCS schools).

Mid-American Group

Code:
Central Michigan         70.84
Western Michigan         70.60
Toledo                   68.45
Marshall                 67.78
Miami-Ohio               66.37
Ball State               62.96
Eastern Michigan         61.37
Ohio                     56.31
Bowling Green            51.39

Michigan and Ohio members of the MAC plus Marshall.

South Atlantic Group

Code:
Appalachian State        74.34
Coastal Carolina         72.65
Liberty                  72.15
James Madison            71.20
East Carolina            68.37
Georgia State            67.02
Old Dominion             59.33
Charlotte                52.53
Wofford                  37.45

Virginia, Carolina's, and Atlanta.

Southeast Group

Code:
UAB                      71.54
Florida Atlantic         59.89
Troy                     58.63
South Florida            56.74
South Alabama            56.18
Georgia Southern         55.33
Southern Miss            50.97
Jacksonville State       48.19
Fla. International       41.17

Alabama, Florida, plus USM and Georgia Southern

South Central Group

Code:
Louisiana                76.32
Western Kentucky         74.58
Tulsa                    69.37
Middle Tennessee         63.84
Tulane                   62.08
Louisiana Tech           55.77
Vanderbilt               53.31
Arkansas State           52.56
LouisianaMonroe(ULM)     52.43

Louisiana and Oklahoma to Tennessee-Kentucky

There is an alternate grouping that would rotate the following pairs clockwise:

AFA-CSU to Great Northern
Illinois State-Northern Illinois to Mid American
Ohio-Marshall to South Atlantic
Wofford-Georgia State to Southeast
Tulsa-Arkansas State to Texas
New Mexico-NMSU to Southwest
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