I'm so dizzy my head is spinning.

(04-25-2022 11:07 PM)vcoog Wrote:  You’re kinda delusional on the current status of college athletics and the landscape we are now in.

The new Big 12, ACC, and Pac 12 are all 3 going to be making half of what the SEC and B10 are making. All three of those conferences are in jeopardy of not existing for much longer. Clemson, Florida state, USC, all won’t like making a fraction of what other large name brand schools are making while the wake forests and Cal’s of the world ride their coat tails.

The new AAC is in an even worse position as their TV deal will go down more and they won’t have many games that will move the needle anymore.

Every one of the AAC’s highest viewed games involved UCF Houston and Cincinnati. Memphis was involved in some of those but Memphis vs SMU never got the views of Memphis vs UCF or the other two. That’s all leaving the league and you’re replacing with north Texas vs UTSA vs rice vs CLT..

We were able to get a pay increase and get some traction for the P6 cause it started to separate us from the other G4.

At the next media deal if the new AAC isn’t producing high viewership games it’s officially dead and cusa 3.1 which we all are assuming is the case already. I just don’t see even on ABC Tulane vs UAB etc doing much to help the cause.

Furthermore if the new big 12 can’t produce similar viewership to last year it’s dead as well. Luckily baylor and okie state drew pretty well and you’re adding teams with a pulse at least. The big 12 may have the fewest bottom feeders now of any p5 with really just Kansas being the only basement team and they’re coming off a national championship in basketball.

But either way no matter how competitive or good the big 12 is they will be making a fraction of the sec and that will always put the league in jeopardy of dissolving. Is it that far fetched to see the SEC kicking out weaker teams and adding Texas tech or Clemson or Florida state ? Greed has no limits and doesn’t care about the schools history only how many people will turn the TV on to see it. Streaming has killed the networks and live TV is the only sure way they have left to sell ads at a high price.

I get it - you're a the glass is half empty kind of guy. Ask the commissioners of the B12, P12, ACC, and AAC if they believe that their conferences won't exist for very much longer. See what they say.

It is wishful thinking bordering on delusion that the newcomers will come anywhere close to the departing three. Frankly, it is an insult to UCF, Cincy, and Houston who merited chairs at the big boy table and reflects the same mistaken attitude remaining CUSA fans had that they would be "fine" after schools bolted to the BE/AAC.

(04-26-2022 08:18 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  It is wishful thinking bordering on delusion that the newcomers will come anywhere close to the departing three. Frankly, it is an insult to UCF, Cincy, and Houston who merited chairs at the big boy table and reflects the same mistaken attitude remaining CUSA fans had that they would be "fine" after schools bolted to the BE/AAC.

So did TCU and Louisville. I'm not saying that they will immediately be equal. But give them at least 5 years of comparable experience. (TCU >= Houston, Louisville >= Cincy, FSU >= UCF) Kudos to Houston, Cincy, and UCF, but they are still inferior in my opinion to TCU, Louisville, and Florida State.

(04-25-2022 10:34 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  Man, if this is what this board is going to be like for the next two years...well...that just sucks.

Shouldn’t you be over at the B12 kissing @$$?

(04-26-2022 08:51 AM)SadderBudweiser Wrote:  

(04-25-2022 10:34 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  Man, if this is what this board is going to be like for the next two years...well...that just sucks.

Shouldn’t you be over at the B12 kissing @$$?

The posters from departing schools here have been gracious and I thank them for it.

(04-25-2022 11:07 PM)vcoog Wrote:  You’re kinda delusional on the current status of college athletics and the landscape we are now in.

The new Big 12, ACC, and Pac 12 are all 3 going to be making half of what the SEC and B10 are making. All three of those conferences are in jeopardy of not existing for much longer. Clemson, Florida state, USC, all won’t like making a fraction of what other large name brand schools are making while the wake forests and Cal’s of the world ride their coat tails.

The new AAC is in an even worse position as their TV deal will go down more and they won’t have many games that will move the needle anymore.

Every one of the AAC’s highest viewed games involved UCF Houston and Cincinnati. Memphis was involved in some of those but Memphis vs SMU never got the views of Memphis vs UCF or the other two. That’s all leaving the league and you’re replacing with north Texas vs UTSA vs rice vs CLT..

We were able to get a pay increase and get some traction for the P6 cause it started to separate us from the other G4.

At the next media deal if the new AAC isn’t producing high viewership games it’s officially dead and cusa 3.1 which we all are assuming is the case already. I just don’t see even on ABC Tulane vs UAB etc doing much to help the cause.

Furthermore if the new big 12 can’t produce similar viewership to last year it’s dead as well. Luckily baylor and okie state drew pretty well and you’re adding teams with a pulse at least. The big 12 may have the fewest bottom feeders now of any p5 with really just Kansas being the only basement team and they’re coming off a national championship in basketball.

But either way no matter how competitive or good the big 12 is they will be making a fraction of the sec and that will always put the league in jeopardy of dissolving. Is it that far fetched to see the SEC kicking out weaker teams and adding Texas tech or Clemson or Florida state ? Greed has no limits and doesn’t care about the schools history only how many people will turn the TV on to see it. Streaming has killed the networks and live TV is the only sure way they have left to sell ads at a high price.

That's tough to ballpark. I imagine the same argument could have been mad libs'd with the team names shuffled around and applied to the last round of realignment.

Obviously, whatever teams are doing the best will get the best timeslots and the most viewership. Soon, the next top 3-4 teams will command the best records/timeslots/ratings, and I'm not saying that it will necessarily be the legacy teams. When Louisville/WVU/Rutgers left, the same argument was probably made. It ended up being the new members, however, that made up 2 of the 3 teams called up next time.

(04-25-2022 11:07 PM)vcoog Wrote:  Every one of the AAC’s highest viewed games involved UCF Houston and Cincinnati. Memphis was involved in some of those but Memphis vs SMU never got the views of Memphis vs UCF or the other two.

That's an exaggeration.

There have been a number of high-viewership games involving teams other than Cincy, UH, and UCF.

2018 examples:

USF-Tulsa 1.17 million viewers
Tulsa-Temple 728,000 viewers
Tulane-Memphis 738,000 viewers
SMU-TCU 1,08 million viewers
Memphis-Georgia St. 790,000 viewers
Memphis-Wake Forest 2.53 million viewers
Navy-Army 8.05 million viewers
Navy-Notre Dame 2.45 million viewers

2019 examples:

Memphis-PSU 6.22 million viewers
SMU-Memphis 2.95 million viewers
Navy-Memphis 730,000 viewers
Memphis-Mississippi 1.88 million viewers
Temple-UNC 2.07 million viewers
Navy-Notre Dame 1.56 million viewers
Navy-UConn 742,000 viewers
Navy-Kansas St. 3.33 million viewers
Navy-Army 7.72 million viewers
SMU-FAU 1.99 million viewers
UAB-App. St. 963,000 viewers

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2019-co...v-ratings/


2020 examples:

Tulsa-Okla. St. 1.73 million viewers
Navy-Tulane 1.35 million viewers
Navy-BYU 1.15 million viewers
Ark St.-Memphis 1.03 million viewers
USF-Notre Dame 957,000 viewers
SMU-Tulane 832,000 viewers
Army-Navy 4.9 million viewers
Tulane-Nevada 914,000 viewers
Memphis-FAU 1.27 million viewers
Mississippi St. - Tulsa 2.25 million viewers
UTSA-Louisiana 2.08 million viewers

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college...ratings/2/

2021 examples:

Tulane-Oklahoma 2.53 million viewers
Navy-Air Force 1.08 million viewers
UAB-Georgia 1.12 million viewers
Tulsa-Ohio St. 1.83 million viewers
Navy-Tulsa 684,000 viewers
Navy-Notre Dame 1.86 million viewers
Tulsa-ODU 918,000 viewers
UAB-BYU 3.22 million viewers
UTSA-SDSU 1.15 million viewers
UNT-Miami(OH) 1.53 million viewers
UAB-Jax St. 841,000 viewers

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(04-26-2022 01:15 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(04-25-2022 11:07 PM)vcoog Wrote:  Every one of the AAC’s highest viewed games involved UCF Houston and Cincinnati. Memphis was involved in some of those but Memphis vs SMU never got the views of Memphis vs UCF or the other two.

That's an exaggeration.

There have been a number of high-viewership games involving teams other than Cincy, UH, and UCF.

2018 examples:

USF-Tulsa 1.17 million viewers
Tulsa-Temple 728,000 viewers
Tulane-Memphis 738,000 viewers
SMU-TCU 1,08 million viewers
Memphis-Georgia St. 790,000 viewers
Memphis-Wake Forest 2.53 million viewers
Navy-Army 8.05 million viewers
Navy-Notre Dame 2.45 million viewers

2019 examples:

Memphis-PSU 6.22 million viewers
SMU-Memphis 2.95 million viewers
Navy-Memphis 730,000 viewers
Memphis-Mississippi 1.88 million viewers
Temple-UNC 2.07 million viewers
Navy-Notre Dame 1.56 million viewers
Navy-UConn 742,000 viewers
Navy-Kansas St. 3.33 million viewers
Navy-Army 7.72 million viewers
SMU-FAU 1.99 million viewers
UAB-App. St. 963,000 viewers

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2019-co...v-ratings/


2020 examples:

Tulsa-Okla. St. 1.73 million viewers
Navy-Tulane 1.35 million viewers
Navy-BYU 1.15 million viewers
Ark St.-Memphis 1.03 million viewers
USF-Notre Dame 957,000 viewers
SMU-Tulane 832,000 viewers
Army-Navy 4.9 million viewers
Tulane-Nevada 914,000
Memphis-FAU 1.27 million viewers
Mississippi St. - Tulsa 2.25 million viewers
UTSA-Louisiana 2.08 million viewers

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college...ratings/2/

2021 examples:

Tulane-Oklahoma 2.53 million viewers
Navy-Air Force 1.08 million viewers
UAB-Georgia 1.12 million viewers
Tulsa-Ohio St. 1.83 million viewers
Navy-Tulsa 684,000 viewers
Navy-Notre Dame 1.86 million viewers
Tulsa-ODU 918,000 viewers

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The conference doesn't have rights to the away games you listed.

(04-26-2022 01:22 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(04-26-2022 01:15 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(04-25-2022 11:07 PM)vcoog Wrote:  Every one of the AAC’s highest viewed games involved UCF Houston and Cincinnati. Memphis was involved in some of those but Memphis vs SMU never got the views of Memphis vs UCF or the other two.

That's an exaggeration.

There have been a number of high-viewership games involving teams other than Cincy, UH, and UCF.

2018 examples:

USF-Tulsa 1.17 million viewers
Tulsa-Temple 728,000 viewers
Tulane-Memphis 738,000 viewers
SMU-TCU 1,08 million viewers
Memphis-Georgia St. 790,000 viewers
Memphis-Wake Forest 2.53 million viewers
Navy-Army 8.05 million viewers
Navy-Notre Dame 2.45 million viewers

2019 examples:

Memphis-PSU 6.22 million viewers
SMU-Memphis 2.95 million viewers
Navy-Memphis 730,000 viewers
Memphis-Mississippi 1.88 million viewers
Temple-UNC 2.07 million viewers
Navy-Notre Dame 1.56 million viewers
Navy-UConn 742,000 viewers
Navy-Kansas St. 3.33 million viewers
Navy-Army 7.72 million viewers
SMU-FAU 1.99 million viewers
UAB-App. St. 963,000 viewers

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2019-co...v-ratings/


2020 examples:

Tulsa-Okla. St. 1.73 million viewers
Navy-Tulane 1.35 million viewers
Navy-BYU 1.15 million viewers
Ark St.-Memphis 1.03 million viewers
USF-Notre Dame 957,000 viewers
SMU-Tulane 832,000 viewers
Army-Navy 4.9 million viewers
Tulane-Nevada 914,000
Memphis-FAU 1.27 million viewers
Mississippi St. - Tulsa 2.25 million viewers
UTSA-Louisiana 2.08 million viewers

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college...ratings/2/

2021 examples:

Tulane-Oklahoma 2.53 million viewers
Navy-Air Force 1.08 million viewers
UAB-Georgia 1.12 million viewers
Tulsa-Ohio St. 1.83 million viewers
Navy-Tulsa 684,000 viewers
Navy-Notre Dame 1.86 million viewers
Tulsa-ODU 918,000 viewers

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The conference doesn't have rights to the away games you listed.

And I do not believe they have the rights to the Army Navy game.

(04-26-2022 01:22 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(04-26-2022 01:15 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(04-25-2022 11:07 PM)vcoog Wrote:  Every one of the AAC’s highest viewed games involved UCF Houston and Cincinnati. Memphis was involved in some of those but Memphis vs SMU never got the views of Memphis vs UCF or the other two.

That's an exaggeration.

There have been a number of high-viewership games involving teams other than Cincy, UH, and UCF.

2018 examples:

USF-Tulsa 1.17 million viewers
Tulsa-Temple 728,000 viewers
Tulane-Memphis 738,000 viewers
SMU-TCU 1,08 million viewers
Memphis-Georgia St. 790,000 viewers
Memphis-Wake Forest 2.53 million viewers
Navy-Army 8.05 million viewers
Navy-Notre Dame 2.45 million viewers

2019 examples:

Memphis-PSU 6.22 million viewers
SMU-Memphis 2.95 million viewers
Navy-Memphis 730,000 viewers
Memphis-Mississippi 1.88 million viewers
Temple-UNC 2.07 million viewers
Navy-Notre Dame 1.56 million viewers
Navy-UConn 742,000 viewers
Navy-Kansas St. 3.33 million viewers
Navy-Army 7.72 million viewers
SMU-FAU 1.99 million viewers
UAB-App. St. 963,000 viewers

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2019-co...v-ratings/


2020 examples:

Tulsa-Okla. St. 1.73 million viewers
Navy-Tulane 1.35 million viewers
Navy-BYU 1.15 million viewers
Ark St.-Memphis 1.03 million viewers
USF-Notre Dame 957,000 viewers
SMU-Tulane 832,000 viewers
Army-Navy 4.9 million viewers
Tulane-Nevada 914,000 viewers
Memphis-FAU 1.27 million viewers
Mississippi St. - Tulsa 2.25 million viewers
UTSA-Louisiana 2.08 million viewers

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college...ratings/2/

2021 examples:

Tulane-Oklahoma 2.53 million viewers
Navy-Air Force 1.08 million viewers
UAB-Georgia 1.12 million viewers
Tulsa-Ohio St. 1.83 million viewers
Navy-Tulsa 684,000 viewers
Navy-Notre Dame 1.86 million viewers
Tulsa-ODU 918,000 viewers
UAB-BYU 3.22 million viewers
UTSA-SDSU 1.15 million viewers
UNT-Miami(OH) 1.53 million viewers
UAB-Jax St. 841,000 viewers


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The conference doesn't have rights to the away games you listed.

True, but vcoog had posted "Every one of the AAC’s highest viewed games involved UCF Houston and Cincinnati," and the data above show that many of the AAC's high-viewership games did not "involve UCF, Houston and Cincinnati."

Many of the games listed were OOC games, but there were also some high-viewership intra-conference games between teams other than UC, UH, and UCF.
.

(04-26-2022 01:29 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(04-26-2022 01:22 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(04-26-2022 01:15 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(04-25-2022 11:07 PM)vcoog Wrote:  Every one of the AAC’s highest viewed games involved UCF Houston and Cincinnati. Memphis was involved in some of those but Memphis vs SMU never got the views of Memphis vs UCF or the other two.

That's an exaggeration.

There have been a number of high-viewership games involving teams other than Cincy, UH, and UCF.

2018 examples:

USF-Tulsa 1.17 million viewers
Tulsa-Temple 728,000 viewers
Tulane-Memphis 738,000 viewers
SMU-TCU 1,08 million viewers
Memphis-Georgia St. 790,000 viewers
Memphis-Wake Forest 2.53 million viewers
Navy-Army 8.05 million viewers
Navy-Notre Dame 2.45 million viewers

2019 examples:

Memphis-PSU 6.22 million viewers
SMU-Memphis 2.95 million viewers
Navy-Memphis 730,000 viewers
Memphis-Mississippi 1.88 million viewers
Temple-UNC 2.07 million viewers
Navy-Notre Dame 1.56 million viewers
Navy-UConn 742,000 viewers
Navy-Kansas St. 3.33 million viewers
Navy-Army 7.72 million viewers
SMU-FAU 1.99 million viewers
UAB-App. St. 963,000 viewers

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2019-co...v-ratings/


2020 examples:

Tulsa-Okla. St. 1.73 million viewers
Navy-Tulane 1.35 million viewers
Navy-BYU 1.15 million viewers
Ark St.-Memphis 1.03 million viewers
USF-Notre Dame 957,000 viewers
SMU-Tulane 832,000 viewers
Army-Navy 4.9 million viewers
Tulane-Nevada 914,000 viewers
Memphis-FAU 1.27 million viewers
Mississippi St. - Tulsa 2.25 million viewers
UTSA-Louisiana 2.08 million viewers

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college...ratings/2/

2021 examples:

Tulane-Oklahoma 2.53 million viewers
Navy-Air Force 1.08 million viewers
UAB-Georgia 1.12 million viewers
Tulsa-Ohio St. 1.83 million viewers
Navy-Tulsa 684,000 viewers
Navy-Notre Dame 1.86 million viewers
Tulsa-ODU 918,000 viewers
UAB-BYU 3.22 million viewers
UTSA-SDSU 1.15 million viewers
UNT-Miami(OH) 1.53 million viewers
UAB-Jax St. 841,000 viewers


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The conference doesn't have rights to the away games you listed.

True, but vcoog had posted "Every one of the AAC’s highest viewed games involved UCF Houston and Cincinnati," and the data above show that many of the AAC's high-viewership games did not "involve UCF, Houston and Cincinnati."

Many of the games listed were OOC games, but there were also some high-viewership intra-conference games between teams other than UC, UH, and UCF.
.

You tried to skew these figures. The only numbers that matter are conference games and home OOC games. You loaded your stats up with bowl games, and OOC away games. Jacksonville State can be playing Alabama in Tuscaloosa and draw 4+ million viewers......would you add that to commend CUSA's quality addition since they bring in highly rated games?

Why don't you list all conference games and home OOC games for those same years that drew 1 million+ viewers for that same time period. Include all the games the departing 3 were part of. I think it will be eye opening when compared to how many 1 million+ games the remainers were part of.

In desire to claim merits, Stang reached too far.

Recent C-USA titles are nothing compared to what UCF did.
The CUSA was much stronger when UCF was in it than it was when FAU played in it. UCF beating the Big-12 champion in the Fiesta bowl verifies the differences.

Enrollment < 14000 is hardly a large student body.

Scheduling UH, Army, and UT and one good football season does not show much merit. UC and UH had been in power conferences. They both had long histories in major bowls. UC, UH, and UCF have had numerous high ranking in football.

No AAC-14 school will ever exceed UH's viewership. This is
shown in:

Which college football programs bring in the most TV viewers?
https://medium.com/run-it-back-with-zach...c03c689e50

ESPN's gameday at UH in 2011 shows UH had good viewership prior to joining the AAc.

It's obvious what you would like, but that donkey really won't fly.

ESPN already has the narrative that the best G5 division is SB East. That has to sting a bit for AAC leftovers. SB is on the rise.

(04-26-2022 01:55 PM)otown Wrote:  

(04-26-2022 01:29 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(04-26-2022 01:22 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(04-26-2022 01:15 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(04-25-2022 11:07 PM)vcoog Wrote:  Every one of the AAC’s highest viewed games involved UCF Houston and Cincinnati. Memphis was involved in some of those but Memphis vs SMU never got the views of Memphis vs UCF or the other two.

That's an exaggeration.

There have been a number of high-viewership games involving teams other than Cincy, UH, and UCF.

2018 examples:

USF-Tulsa 1.17 million viewers
Tulsa-Temple 728,000 viewers
Tulane-Memphis 738,000 viewers
SMU-TCU 1,08 million viewers
Memphis-Georgia St. 790,000 viewers
Memphis-Wake Forest 2.53 million viewers
Navy-Army 8.05 million viewers
Navy-Notre Dame 2.45 million viewers

2019 examples:

Memphis-PSU 6.22 million viewers
SMU-Memphis 2.95 million viewers
Navy-Memphis 730,000 viewers
Memphis-Mississippi 1.88 million viewers
Temple-UNC 2.07 million viewers
Navy-Notre Dame 1.56 million viewers
Navy-UConn 742,000 viewers
Navy-Kansas St. 3.33 million viewers
Navy-Army 7.72 million viewers
SMU-FAU 1.99 million viewers
UAB-App. St. 963,000 viewers

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2019-co...v-ratings/


2020 examples:

Tulsa-Okla. St. 1.73 million viewers
Navy-Tulane 1.35 million viewers
Navy-BYU 1.15 million viewers
Ark St.-Memphis 1.03 million viewers
USF-Notre Dame 957,000 viewers
SMU-Tulane 832,000 viewers
Army-Navy 4.9 million viewers
Tulane-Nevada 914,000 viewers
Memphis-FAU 1.27 million viewers
Mississippi St. - Tulsa 2.25 million viewers
UTSA-Louisiana 2.08 million viewers

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college...ratings/2/

2021 examples:

Tulane-Oklahoma 2.53 million viewers
Navy-Air Force 1.08 million viewers
UAB-Georgia 1.12 million viewers
Tulsa-Ohio St. 1.83 million viewers
Navy-Tulsa 684,000 viewers
Navy-Notre Dame 1.86 million viewers
Tulsa-ODU 918,000 viewers
UAB-BYU 3.22 million viewers
UTSA-SDSU 1.15 million viewers
UNT-Miami(OH) 1.53 million viewers
UAB-Jax St. 841,000 viewers


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The conference doesn't have rights to the away games you listed.

True, but vcoog had posted "Every one of the AAC’s highest viewed games involved UCF Houston and Cincinnati," and the data above show that many of the AAC's high-viewership games did not "involve UCF, Houston and Cincinnati."

Many of the games listed were OOC games, but there were also some high-viewership intra-conference games between teams other than UC, UH, and UCF.
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You tried to skew these figures. The only numbers that matter are conference games and home OOC games. You loaded your stats up with bowl games, and OOC away games. Jacksonville State can be playing Alabama in Tuscaloosa and draw 4+ million viewers......would you add that to commend CUSA's quality addition since they bring in highly rated games?

Why don't you list all conference games and home OOC games for those same years that drew 1 million+ viewers for that same time period. Include all the games the departing 3 were part of. I think it will be eye opening when compared to how many 1 million+ games the remainers were part of.

That will also yield skewed numbers a little bit. For instance, 2 of the 8 remaining teams would have been slotted into the CCG timeslot on ABC this year if Houston-Cincinnati weren't in the conference.

While I don't think anyone will be a direct 1 for 1 replacement, the OP has a good point. There will be a power vacuum. Someone(s) will jump up and take the seat. The seat might not be as high as it used to be, but it's there for the taking.

Football wise, I always felt the Big East and the AAC did wonders for Cincinnati. If Cincinnati was simply placed in the B1G, similar to Rutgers, I'm guessing the results would have been pretty similar. The ability to earn and fight for wins/championships over time, I believe gave Cincinnati a good footing to stand on. Cincinnati is in a much better place than it was 20 years ago, and that has a lot to do with the AAC.

(04-26-2022 02:41 PM)everyone Wrote:  ESPN already has the narrative that the best G5 division is SB East. That has to sting a bit for AAC leftovers. SB is on the rise.

Get us out of here. ESPN needs to pump up that Sunbelt TV deal.

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(04-25-2022 07:18 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  When you compare the newbies to the teams leaving........

UCF - (FAU - 2 recent C-USA titles)

Cincy - (UAB - High academics, large student body, new stadium)

UH - (UTSA - Games against UH, Army, and UT in 2022, plus 12 wins in 2021)

It shouldn't take too long to replace the teams leaving........

I don't particularly like Houston, don't like UCF, and Cincy has grown on my nerves in recent years (LOL) but IMO they are vastly more valuable then FAU, UAB and UTSA.

That's why we had to add six schools to replace the three leaving to keep the lump sum media amount the same.

(04-26-2022 03:16 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(04-26-2022 02:41 PM)everyone Wrote:  ESPN already has the narrative that the best G5 division is SB East. That has to sting a bit for AAC leftovers. SB is on the rise.

Get us out of here. ESPN needs to pump up that Sunbelt TV deal.

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I said before with both leagues being ESPN brands, ESPN wouldn't have a problem flipping the narrative on a dime where they see fit. No SBC schools were getting touched this last round, especially East schools.

(04-26-2022 03:16 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(04-26-2022 02:41 PM)everyone Wrote:  ESPN already has the narrative that the best G5 division is SB East. That has to sting a bit for AAC leftovers. SB is on the rise.

Get us out of here. ESPN needs to pump up that Sunbelt TV deal.

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ECU would fit better in the Sun Belt than in the AAC right now. Football will be negligible, baseball will be negligible (both are ECU's strong suits), small market, big fan base. It's a bit like Louisiana - Lafayette in a way except ECU's fan support is quite a bit stronger.

If not for Jeff Compher ECU may have been in the conversation for Big 12 expansion right now.

Now they are left in C-USA 10.0 while the Sun Belt has risen to follow something of a mini-SEC model where football was the primary focus and now that investment is paying it's dividends.

The Sun Belt would give ECU more rivalry game potential than they have in the AAC as well. Bring USF and ECU and the Sun Belt has P6 potential. Budget's and TV money would be increasing quite dramatically as the conference has been in an arms race since Georgia Southern came in and swept the board.