I don't know what's wrong with me but i keep being loyal to this damn school

at the region III meet there will be at least 6 rice kids competing. they've missed the boat on two but there's 4 others they can try to recruit.

donovan bradley jr summer creek 110h 300h 4x1 arguably the most versatile athlete in the state. he can run the 400 as well. the top jr hurdler in the country mom and dad attended rice

jhase mcmillan tompkins soph hs 4x1 4x2 qualified for area in the 100 as well but didn't run it. remember the name he's about to blow up in football as well mom and dad attended rice

karson gordon soph ridge point hs tj 4x1 4x2 outstanding athlete has several offers in football already. dad attended rice

amaya hardeman frosh bush hs 4x1 4x2 200 freshman making some real noise. she's only going to get better. her mother ran track at rice kasonya whiting(400m), dad is cedric hardeman head coach of conroe hs played at uh, brother played at okie lite and finished at hbu, grandfather played at uh(i think) and played in the nfl....she has a lineage. she's a hidden gem

each of these athletes in high school have bested marks by current rice athletes. they all have the grades and they obviously have rice ties. don't give me that jazz about they can't show interest right now. these are kids that will help our school actually compete.

added names...don't have rice ties but you might want to look into them.....jayden keys..soph. brother is at nebraska running track and sister is at hbu running track. went 25ft in lj and is a excellent hurdler. his dad ran track in college as well. he has a lineage. blake harris 23ft lj 6-6 hj 100 200..he is the 1st leg of tompkins 4x1. harris is probably one the most underrated track athletes in the area. this kid is really special. he's taken visits to tamu and nebraska already. we owe it to ourselves to recruit him, he's a sr. there's a girl at katy hs mccoy, hurdler and 100, she's powerful. she would be a great heptathlete. she's special, trust me on that. simone ballard from mayde creek hurdler is going to regionin 100h and 300h. little girl can flat out run them hurdles.

i know talent....all the kids mentioned are kids that will qualify to get into rice and have the ability to help us compete week in and week out. those of you that know people make the call and get these kids on the radar and get them recruited.

Nightowl, this 100 times over. And thank you for your loyalty, I've about worn mine out.

One question, just wondering, not that it really means anything, but I know at least one of those is a double legacy. Any others?

It's absolutely inexcusable that we have these kinds of talent that will basically recruit themselves if we show any interest, and we don't give them the time of day. Same for the ones you have mentioned before. If we had coaches who were tied in to the Texas HS coaches association, and had strong Rice connections, we would have known all these kids, the ones you have mentioned before would be at Rice and helping win games and meets and other competitions, and the ones still in HS would be heading to Rice to do the same. Maybe we should make you recruiting coordinator. You check every box that I'd be looking for in an a Rice coach. I would just not want to see you come to Rice and get beaten down by the system the way I've seen it happen to so many good coaches. In other words, I'd want to see another AD first.

I saw one kid in HS that I called Hatfield about. Bailiff ended up recruiting him and playing him out of position on the wrong side of the ball. He had the metrics for safety, but the instincts for QB.

Also Bayleigh Minor at Fort Bend Christian, although she might end up being a volleyball player in college instead of track and field (or maybe she can do both sports). She's another freshman with better marks (200 and 400) than current Rice athletes.

Peyton Farmer (new Class of 2023 football commit) was 5th in the discus at the 19/20 area meet (156-0, a new PR).

No Rice connections, but Mason Dossett of Ridge Point is another great track and field athlete. He just ran a windy 13.66 in the 110 HH. He's a sophomore (Class of 2024) who I suspect will do both track and football in college. His dad went to Baylor. Dossett vs Bradley in the hurdles could be a great race.

(04-23-2022 06:23 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Also Bayleigh Minor at Fort Bend Christian, although she might end up being a volleyball player in college instead of track and field (or maybe she can do both sports). She's another freshman with better marks (200 and 400) than current Rice athletes.
Peyton Farmer (new Class of 2023 football commit) was 5th in the discus at the 19/20 area meet (156-0, a new PR).
No Rice connections, but Mason Dossett of Ridge Point is another great track and field athlete. He just ran a windy 13.66 in the 110 HH. He's a sophomore (Class of 2024) who I suspect will do both track and football in college. His dad went to Baylor. Dossett vs Bradley in the hurdles could be a great race.

In addition to the Texas and Rice legacy angles, there is one more thing I think Rice needs to push--multi-sport athletes. Neely did that big-time, and helped both football as well as other sports, primarily track and baseball. Bo Hagan pretty much put an end to that, and Rice ended up being non-competitive in anything for 20 years. For the record, Bo was a worse AD than football coach. Think the worst of Bloomgren and JK combined.

Put the athletes that Nightowl and FBO have mentioned here and previously into Rice uniforms for 4-5 years, and try to imagine the differences they would make. Hell, put half of them into Rice uniforms and imagine that.

Add Nmiah Collins of Stratford in the 800 meters. Mom (Alexis) ran at Rice and dad (Robert) was a Rice tennis player. Her cousin Grace will be playing for Rice soccer after transferring from TCU.

The two sport thing is a tough one. I completely understand why a coach with a potential star and a limited scholarship doesn't want their player doing another sport, but because it isn't contact and some of the training, they'd be doing anyway (not specifically, but starts, running, jumping, explosive moves etc) I can see that some limited participation in T&F should actually be encouraged. Yes, the track coach would only get maybe 1/3 of the training time they'd like and these guys may not reach their track potential, but they'd still often be generating points for Rice T&F, and some of them would be GREAT....

Combine this with our ability to give significant financial aid to most families and we have a potential real advantage. In this day of NIL, we need to treat our endowment like an NIL and our sports like media outreach. I'm not saying give them money outside or beyond a scholarship... I'm just saying we challenge the traditional idea that a football recruit NEEDS to be on a football scholarship. I'm betting significant percentages of our football players would qualify for 100% need based scholarships.

(04-23-2022 06:45 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  The two sport thing is a tough one.

It's a tough one because, at least on the men's side, it would mostly involve football plus another sport, and football coaches tend to be control freaks who are resistant to change. But there is no substitute for talent, and if welcoming and embracing multi-sport athletes got Rice one or two 4-stars (or even a 5-star) per year, I think that would be money ahead of the game.

(04-23-2022 07:25 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(04-23-2022 06:45 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  The two sport thing is a tough one.

It's a tough one because, at least on the men's side, it would mostly involve football plus another sport, and football coaches tend to be control freaks who are resistant to change. But there is no substitute for talent, and if welcoming and embracing multi-sport athletes got Rice one or two 4-stars (or even a 5-star) per year, I think that would be money ahead of the game.

I don't think we should under-estimate the value though of being able to bring in a few extra guys on need based scholarship and/or transition a 'project' who isn't working out to some combination of need and/or track. With the changes in the NCAA, this should be vastly less of an issue... I mean if a kid can get a football scholarship and 100k/yr from alumni, he should be able to get an academic or needs based scholarship transitioning from a football one.

Seriously... we need to push forward on this finding some way to leverage our endowment

(04-23-2022 06:11 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Nightowl, this 100 times over. And thank you for your loyalty, I've about worn mine out.

One question, just wondering, not that it really means anything, but I know at least one of those is a double legacy. Any others?

It's absolutely inexcusable that we have these kinds of talent that will basically recruit themselves if we show any interest, and we don't give them the time of day. Same for the ones you have mentioned before. If we had coaches who were tied in to the Texas HS coaches association, and had strong Rice connections, we would have known all these kids, the ones you have mentioned before would be at Rice and helping win games and meets and other competitions, and the ones still in HS would be heading to Rice to do the same. Maybe we should make you recruiting coordinator. You check every box that I'd be looking for in an a Rice coach. I would just not want to see you come to Rice and get beaten down by the system the way I've seen it happen to so many good coaches. In other words, I'd want to see another AD first.

I saw one kid in HS that I called Hatfield about. Bailiff ended up recruiting him and playing him out of position on the wrong side of the ball. He had the metrics for safety, but the instincts for QB.

Bradley and McMillan are double legacies. Both dads played football both moms ran track.

Thank you people for adding in on others I didn't know about. Get these kids on the radar and get them to rice.

The two sport thing can be done. Instead of doing the running workouts you go to track practice. Lift with football do your skills training either midday or early morning before lift. It isn't hard but as a school we have to be able to be innovative. We hold ourselves in high regard with being "different" but we won't BE different.

Rice has the ability to really leverage this whole nil stuff. Why aren't we? Be innovative. But we won't.

None the less, let's get these kids on Rice's radar.

NightOwl, I thank and commend you for continuing to post. We all respect and appreciate your dedication to Rice even though they don't often seem to appreciate it. Your insights and knowledge about the legacy kids and why they should be recruited is valuable to us older guys and gals and we all look forward to Rice following through. I only hope it happens during my lifetime!

(I'm almost 83, so it better happen soon!)

Region 3 meet

Karson Gordon advanced in the tjb with a jump of 49-11.5(soph)

Tompkins 4x1 didn't advance Joshua McMillan and Jhase McMillan

Ridge point 4x1 and 4x2 didn't advance Bert Jr and Karson

Donovan Bradley acted a fool today. 1st leg of the 4x1(destroyed everyone) 1st in 110(13.6) and 300(37... cruising).

A female rice athlete I left out Meagan mcalla was anchor leg of Atascocita 4x1, they didn't advance.

Please give updates of the other rice kids.

Not in this region was will jackson(dad played football at Rice) west rusk hs is going to state in the 4x1(he also an all district baseball player and all district football player... we should be on him also).

(04-30-2022 10:16 PM)nightowl24 Wrote:  Region 3 meet

Karson Gordon advanced in the tjb with a jump of 49-11.5(soph)

Tompkins 4x1 didn't advance Joshua McMillan and Jhase McMillan

Ridge point 4x1 and 4x2 didn't advance Bert Jr and Karson

Donovan Bradley acted a fool today. 1st leg of the 4x1(destroyed everyone) 1st in 110(13.6) and 300(37... cruising).

A female rice athlete I left out Meagan mcalla was anchor leg of Atascocita 4x1, they didn't advance.

Please give updates of the other rice kids.

Not in this region was will jackson(dad played football at Rice) west rusk hs is going to state in the 4x1(he also an all district baseball player and all district football player... we should be on him also).

Nmiah Collins won 6A 800 meters, holding off two other girls in an exciting race.

I helped a little with some of the announcing today. Unsurprisingly, Bradley is a stud.

Had an enjoyable chat with the "elder" Mr. McCalla, as well as with my old friend Kareem at the Rice Duckett Meet.

Yeah sanman let after his daughter ran and drive to CS to watch tre run. Adrayll Askew drive down from Dallas to come support the rice kids. We had a great convo, looking forward to catching up with him again in the future.

Also will Jackson qualified in the 4x2 as well. Young man really is a talent deserves to be on Rice's radar.