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(04-25-2022 05:22 AM)Luckeyone Wrote:  $400 , 000 per season plus a car. I wonder what deal Emoni will get?

https://www.wibw.com/2022/04/24/pack-giv...-miami-fl/

I wonder how the other players on the Miami basketball team are going to feel about making next to nothing while playing alongside a guy making $400k a year.
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(04-25-2022 11:11 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  im fine with all the draw backs. players - if compensated - should pay taxes. coaches are contracted - players should be too.

european soccer teams done have drafts - thats an american invention. we're letting a lack of creativity cloud our judgement.

DP and myself have very different views on the current situation with NIL and paying college players. But this statement is true. This is a major paradigm shift, and pretty much everything needs to be overhauled. Things will settle out eventually.

But it is definitely ugly right now, and turning off a lot of people (myself included). “Fair market value” for these athletes is probably diminishing as we speak. Donors are going to have buyers remorse. There will be critical backlash. Etc. Can’t imagine these crazy deals will be sustained long term. But do think that college players in pay sports will eventually settle into some kind of standard compensation- dare I say even regulated by the NCAA. And NIL contracts will need to be legitimately independent rather than directly affiliated by supporters/boosters of a university- and dare I say the NCAA will need to regulate that as well.
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(04-25-2022 12:31 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 11:11 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  im fine with all the draw backs. players - if compensated - should pay taxes. coaches are contracted - players should be too.

european soccer teams done have drafts - thats an american invention. we're letting a lack of creativity cloud our judgement.

DP and myself have very different views on the current situation with NIL and paying college players. But this statement is true. This is a major paradigm shift, and pretty much everything needs to be overhauled. Things will settle out eventually.

But it is definitely ugly right now, and turning off a lot of people. “Fair market value” for these athletes is probably diminishing as we speak. Donors are going to have buyers remorse. There will be critical backlash, Etc. Can’t imagine these crazy deals will be sustained long term. But do think that college players in pay sports will eventually settle into some kind of standard compensation- dare I say even regulated by the NCAA. And NIL contracts will need to be legitimately independent, ie, not directly affiliated by supporters/boosters of the university.

Let me take a step back for a little perspective.

What I like about the NFL: It has a fairly hard salary cap and a draft (obviously) which means that every team from Green Bay to N.Y. to L.A. has a fair fighting chance to assemble a winning team.

MLB and now NBA are becoming jokes. The Dodgers payroll is more than several teams COMBINED. MLB needs a hard cap on the max and a min. cap (floor).

Some NBA teams circumvent their salary cap and certain cities can assemble an all-star cast. Players can circumvent everything by recruiting whom they want as future teammates.

And now NCAA NIL means the worst of the worst. Potentially more UNFAIR than MLB.

Any concept of fair, even playing field (which is what 85 scholarships and no compensation other than COA is about) has been obliterated. Two schools offered essentially the same thing tuition, R&B, COA, etc. Some recruits might pick school A and other school B. Recruits make decision on what is most important to them.
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(04-25-2022 12:05 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 05:22 AM)Luckeyone Wrote:  $400 , 000 per season plus a car. I wonder what deal Emoni will get?

https://www.wibw.com/2022/04/24/pack-giv...-miami-fl/

I wonder how the other players on the Miami basketball team are going to feel about making next to nothing while playing alongside a guy making $400k a year.

how do most of the detroit tigers feel sitting in the same dugout as miggy?
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(04-25-2022 12:44 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 12:31 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 11:11 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  im fine with all the draw backs. players - if compensated - should pay taxes. coaches are contracted - players should be too.

european soccer teams done have drafts - thats an american invention. we're letting a lack of creativity cloud our judgement.

DP and myself have very different views on the current situation with NIL and paying college players. But this statement is true. This is a major paradigm shift, and pretty much everything needs to be overhauled. Things will settle out eventually.

But it is definitely ugly right now, and turning off a lot of people. “Fair market value” for these athletes is probably diminishing as we speak. Donors are going to have buyers remorse. There will be critical backlash, Etc. Can’t imagine these crazy deals will be sustained long term. But do think that college players in pay sports will eventually settle into some kind of standard compensation- dare I say even regulated by the NCAA. And NIL contracts will need to be legitimately independent, ie, not directly affiliated by supporters/boosters of the university.

Let me take a step back for a little perspective.

What I like about the NFL: It has a fairly hard salary cap and a draft (obviously) which means that every team from Green Bay to N.Y. to L.A. has a fair fighting chance to assemble a winning team.

MLB and now NBA are becoming jokes. The Dodgers payroll is more than several teams COMBINED. MLB needs a hard cap on the max and a min. cap (floor).

Some NBA teams circumvent their salary cap and certain cities can assemble an all-star cast. Players can circumvent everything by recruiting whom they want as future teammates.

And now NCAA NIL means the worst of the worst. Potentially more UNFAIR than MLB.

Any concept of fair, even playing field (which is what 85 scholarships and no compensation other than COA is about) has been obliterated. Two schools offered essentially the same thing tuition, R&B, COA, etc. Some recruits might pick school A and other school B. Recruits make decision on what is most important to them.

isnt it foolish to assume its fair now? how many prospects are deciding between EMU and Alabama?
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Steve,

I have not watched the NBA for years. Almost EVERYONE I relate to would say the same thing. Not sure why exactly, but probably for the reason you sited above with all the contract buyouts (at like 80-90%!?!??) to go play wherever they want. I know there are still a lot of people watching NBA, but they are in serious decline nonetheless. Same thing will happen with college athletics and there won’t be as much money to go around. (And probably would be a societal gain to be less invested in sports spectatorship). But some balance will be achieved at some point.

The NCAA (and players) might create (or adopt) some regulations for this new system that are equitable for all and appeal to fans. At this point there is no trajectory towards that. We will see if there is one in the future.
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(04-25-2022 01:00 PM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 12:44 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 12:31 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 11:11 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  im fine with all the draw backs. players - if compensated - should pay taxes. coaches are contracted - players should be too.

european soccer teams done have drafts - thats an american invention. we're letting a lack of creativity cloud our judgement.

DP and myself have very different views on the current situation with NIL and paying college players. But this statement is true. This is a major paradigm shift, and pretty much everything needs to be overhauled. Things will settle out eventually.

But it is definitely ugly right now, and turning off a lot of people. “Fair market value” for these athletes is probably diminishing as we speak. Donors are going to have buyers remorse. There will be critical backlash, Etc. Can’t imagine these crazy deals will be sustained long term. But do think that college players in pay sports will eventually settle into some kind of standard compensation- dare I say even regulated by the NCAA. And NIL contracts will need to be legitimately independent, ie, not directly affiliated by supporters/boosters of the university.

Let me take a step back for a little perspective.

What I like about the NFL: It has a fairly hard salary cap and a draft (obviously) which means that every team from Green Bay to N.Y. to L.A. has a fair fighting chance to assemble a winning team.

MLB and now NBA are becoming jokes. The Dodgers payroll is more than several teams COMBINED. MLB needs a hard cap on the max and a min. cap (floor).

Some NBA teams circumvent their salary cap and certain cities can assemble an all-star cast. Players can circumvent everything by recruiting whom they want as future teammates.

And now NCAA NIL means the worst of the worst. Potentially more UNFAIR than MLB.

Any concept of fair, even playing field (which is what 85 scholarships and no compensation other than COA is about) has been obliterated. Two schools offered essentially the same thing tuition, R&B, COA, etc. Some recruits might pick school A and other school B. Recruits make decision on what is most important to them.

isnt it foolish to assume its fair now? how many prospects are deciding between EMU and Alabama?

Why? Personal preference.

You do realize we have 50 states + D.C. + territories. Some choose Hawaii. Some choose CA. Others MI. Others FL. And so on. Federal income tax is the same in each.

Is that fair that someone living in Hawaii pays the same federal income tax rates as someone living in W. Virginia.

Is that fair? If someone wants to live in W. Va. it must be 'fair enough' for them.
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(04-25-2022 01:36 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 01:00 PM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 12:44 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 12:31 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 11:11 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  im fine with all the draw backs. players - if compensated - should pay taxes. coaches are contracted - players should be too.

european soccer teams done have drafts - thats an american invention. we're letting a lack of creativity cloud our judgement.

DP and myself have very different views on the current situation with NIL and paying college players. But this statement is true. This is a major paradigm shift, and pretty much everything needs to be overhauled. Things will settle out eventually.

But it is definitely ugly right now, and turning off a lot of people. “Fair market value” for these athletes is probably diminishing as we speak. Donors are going to have buyers remorse. There will be critical backlash, Etc. Can’t imagine these crazy deals will be sustained long term. But do think that college players in pay sports will eventually settle into some kind of standard compensation- dare I say even regulated by the NCAA. And NIL contracts will need to be legitimately independent, ie, not directly affiliated by supporters/boosters of the university.

Let me take a step back for a little perspective.

What I like about the NFL: It has a fairly hard salary cap and a draft (obviously) which means that every team from Green Bay to N.Y. to L.A. has a fair fighting chance to assemble a winning team.

MLB and now NBA are becoming jokes. The Dodgers payroll is more than several teams COMBINED. MLB needs a hard cap on the max and a min. cap (floor).

Some NBA teams circumvent their salary cap and certain cities can assemble an all-star cast. Players can circumvent everything by recruiting whom they want as future teammates.

And now NCAA NIL means the worst of the worst. Potentially more UNFAIR than MLB.

Any concept of fair, even playing field (which is what 85 scholarships and no compensation other than COA is about) has been obliterated. Two schools offered essentially the same thing tuition, R&B, COA, etc. Some recruits might pick school A and other school B. Recruits make decision on what is most important to them.

isnt it foolish to assume its fair now? how many prospects are deciding between EMU and Alabama?

Why? Personal preference.

You do realize we have 50 states + D.C. + territories. Some choose Hawaii. Some choose CA. Others MI. Others FL. And so on. Federal income tax is the same in each.

Is that fair that someone living in Hawaii pays the same federal income tax rates as someone living in W. Virginia.

Is that fair? If someone wants to live in W. Va. it must be 'fair enough' for them.

No prospect is choosing EMU over Alabama in the current system.
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(04-25-2022 02:09 PM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 01:36 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 01:00 PM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 12:44 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 12:31 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  DP and myself have very different views on the current situation with NIL and paying college players. But this statement is true. This is a major paradigm shift, and pretty much everything needs to be overhauled. Things will settle out eventually.

But it is definitely ugly right now, and turning off a lot of people. “Fair market value” for these athletes is probably diminishing as we speak. Donors are going to have buyers remorse. There will be critical backlash, Etc. Can’t imagine these crazy deals will be sustained long term. But do think that college players in pay sports will eventually settle into some kind of standard compensation- dare I say even regulated by the NCAA. And NIL contracts will need to be legitimately independent, ie, not directly affiliated by supporters/boosters of the university.

Let me take a step back for a little perspective.

What I like about the NFL: It has a fairly hard salary cap and a draft (obviously) which means that every team from Green Bay to N.Y. to L.A. has a fair fighting chance to assemble a winning team.

MLB and now NBA are becoming jokes. The Dodgers payroll is more than several teams COMBINED. MLB needs a hard cap on the max and a min. cap (floor).

Some NBA teams circumvent their salary cap and certain cities can assemble an all-star cast. Players can circumvent everything by recruiting whom they want as future teammates.

And now NCAA NIL means the worst of the worst. Potentially more UNFAIR than MLB.

Any concept of fair, even playing field (which is what 85 scholarships and no compensation other than COA is about) has been obliterated. Two schools offered essentially the same thing tuition, R&B, COA, etc. Some recruits might pick school A and other school B. Recruits make decision on what is most important to them.

isnt it foolish to assume its fair now? how many prospects are deciding between EMU and Alabama?

Why? Personal preference.

You do realize we have 50 states + D.C. + territories. Some choose Hawaii. Some choose CA. Others MI. Others FL. And so on. Federal income tax is the same in each.

Is that fair that someone living in Hawaii pays the same federal income tax rates as someone living in W. Virginia.

Is that fair? If someone wants to live in W. Va. it must be 'fair enough' for them.

No prospect is choosing EMU over Alabama in the current system.

Why do you put EMU and Alabama in the same sentence?

Why would someone put EMU and Harvard or MIT in the same sentence? What is the purpose?
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(04-25-2022 02:27 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 02:09 PM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 01:36 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 01:00 PM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 12:44 PM)emu steve Wrote:  Let me take a step back for a little perspective.

What I like about the NFL: It has a fairly hard salary cap and a draft (obviously) which means that every team from Green Bay to N.Y. to L.A. has a fair fighting chance to assemble a winning team.

MLB and now NBA are becoming jokes. The Dodgers payroll is more than several teams COMBINED. MLB needs a hard cap on the max and a min. cap (floor).

Some NBA teams circumvent their salary cap and certain cities can assemble an all-star cast. Players can circumvent everything by recruiting whom they want as future teammates.

And now NCAA NIL means the worst of the worst. Potentially more UNFAIR than MLB.

Any concept of fair, even playing field (which is what 85 scholarships and no compensation other than COA is about) has been obliterated. Two schools offered essentially the same thing tuition, R&B, COA, etc. Some recruits might pick school A and other school B. Recruits make decision on what is most important to them.

isnt it foolish to assume its fair now? how many prospects are deciding between EMU and Alabama?

Why? Personal preference.

You do realize we have 50 states + D.C. + territories. Some choose Hawaii. Some choose CA. Others MI. Others FL. And so on. Federal income tax is the same in each.

Is that fair that someone living in Hawaii pays the same federal income tax rates as someone living in W. Virginia.

Is that fair? If someone wants to live in W. Va. it must be 'fair enough' for them.

No prospect is choosing EMU over Alabama in the current system.

Why do you put EMU and Alabama in the same sentence?

Why would someone put EMU and Harvard or MIT in the same sentence? What is the purpose?

the compliant is that its unfair if the big schools have power over the small schools -as if that isnt already the case
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(04-25-2022 02:43 PM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 02:27 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 02:09 PM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 01:36 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 01:00 PM)dansplaining Wrote:  isnt it foolish to assume its fair now? how many prospects are deciding between EMU and Alabama?

Why? Personal preference.

You do realize we have 50 states + D.C. + territories. Some choose Hawaii. Some choose CA. Others MI. Others FL. And so on. Federal income tax is the same in each.

Is that fair that someone living in Hawaii pays the same federal income tax rates as someone living in W. Virginia.

Is that fair? If someone wants to live in W. Va. it must be 'fair enough' for them.

No prospect is choosing EMU over Alabama in the current system.

Why do you put EMU and Alabama in the same sentence?

Why would someone put EMU and Harvard or MIT in the same sentence? What is the purpose?

the compliant is that its unfair if the big schools have power over the small schools -as if that isnt already the case

Why don't you take that statement say to the Nebraska board and and ask about a prospect choosing Alabama over Nebraska.
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I suspect the reason coaching salaries are so out of control is because it's one of the few things college programs can actually spend money on. Most of them aren't worth much at all. Even many of the successful coaches are only successful because they're good recruiters or got lucky. Why hire a "top recruiter" for $10m/yr when you can hire a program manager and recruit with NIL? The new system is gross, but hopefully it will correct some of the power imbalance between exorbitantly paid coaches and broke college kids on scholie.
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(04-25-2022 02:43 PM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 02:27 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 02:09 PM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 01:36 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 01:00 PM)dansplaining Wrote:  isnt it foolish to assume its fair now? how many prospects are deciding between EMU and Alabama?

Why? Personal preference.

You do realize we have 50 states + D.C. + territories. Some choose Hawaii. Some choose CA. Others MI. Others FL. And so on. Federal income tax is the same in each.

Is that fair that someone living in Hawaii pays the same federal income tax rates as someone living in W. Virginia.

Is that fair? If someone wants to live in W. Va. it must be 'fair enough' for them.

No prospect is choosing EMU over Alabama in the current system.

Why do you put EMU and Alabama in the same sentence?

Why would someone put EMU and Harvard or MIT in the same sentence? What is the purpose?

the compliant is that its unfair if the big schools have power over the small schools -as if that isnt already the case
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(04-25-2022 03:26 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 02:43 PM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 02:27 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 02:09 PM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 01:36 PM)emu steve Wrote:  Why? Personal preference.

You do realize we have 50 states + D.C. + territories. Some choose Hawaii. Some choose CA. Others MI. Others FL. And so on. Federal income tax is the same in each.

Is that fair that someone living in Hawaii pays the same federal income tax rates as someone living in W. Virginia.

Is that fair? If someone wants to live in W. Va. it must be 'fair enough' for them.

No prospect is choosing EMU over Alabama in the current system.

Why do you put EMU and Alabama in the same sentence?

Why would someone put EMU and Harvard or MIT in the same sentence? What is the purpose?

the compliant is that its unfair if the big schools have power over the small schools -as if that isnt already the case
This guy. Opinions only a non fan/athlete could love.

I'm a huge fan of college and pro sports.

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(04-25-2022 02:55 PM)Ypsitownie Wrote:  I suspect the reason coaching salaries are so out of control is because it's one of the few things college programs can actually spend money on. Most of them aren't worth much at all. Even many of the successful coaches are only successful because they're good recruiters or got lucky. Why hire a "top recruiter" for $10m/yr when you can hire a program manager and recruit with NIL? The new system is gross, but hopefully it will correct some of the power imbalance between exorbitantly paid coaches and broke college kids on scholie.

Remember the NIL is from rich donors who will disguise the agreements thru business contracts. The school “wink” has nothing to do with the NIzl offer.

The interesting thing here is a small school could attract big time athletes if there are some rich alumni from said school who are sports fans :-)
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Realistically I think this is where it will end up. A top tier of "college" teams like Alabama, Ohio State, USC, etc. operating athletic programs as businesses, much like the NFL and NBA.

The lower tier can then operate much like before with academic scholarships being the primary reward for players and an opportunity to transfer to the big-time programs if their performance enables them to do so. It will enable a separate championship, not one like the CFP, but yet a viewable one that will generate some interest for guys like us. Certainly enough for an ESPN contract.

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DP:

You are not distinguishing between “bad” and “worse” in your arguments. Just because something was bad before does not mean there is no consequence to making it worse. Using your EMU could never compete with Alabama example, I would argue after NIL EMU may no longer compete with any P5 program (I assume we won’t have the resources to pay our players as much as say Purdue would, and therefore further assume we won’t beat them in the post-NIL future. We will see if that holds true or not, but seems logical).

What is the plus side to this system for you? Some players previously screwed by the NCAA are now screwing boosters? Good for them, won’t disagree with that. Is that it though? Is there any other benefit?
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(04-25-2022 04:05 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 02:55 PM)Ypsitownie Wrote:  I suspect the reason coaching salaries are so out of control is because it's one of the few things college programs can actually spend money on. Most of them aren't worth much at all. Even many of the successful coaches are only successful because they're good recruiters or got lucky. Why hire a "top recruiter" for $10m/yr when you can hire a program manager and recruit with NIL? The new system is gross, but hopefully it will correct some of the power imbalance between exorbitantly paid coaches and broke college kids on scholie.

Remember the NIL is from rich donors who will disguise the agreements thru business contracts. The school “wink” has nothing to do with the NIzl offer.

The interesting thing here is a small school could attract big time athletes if there are some rich alumni from said school who are sports fans :-)

The $10m/yr is already coming from those rich alumni. There might be a total increase in spending, but a lot of that NIL money will just move from alumni donating and demanding the flavor-of-the-week coach to direct roster recruitment.

Back to the original topic. Long term I think the Kansas and Oklahomas of the league might be screwed. Between coaching salaries and facilities P5 football was expensive, but could only inflate so much. Essentially, there was a payroll cap of (obscene coach salary - $1) and that just got blown away. Moving forward, they have deep pocket alumni willing to donate payroll and call it a NIL endorsement with every car dealership in Lawrence or Norman. However, big market alumni can create an entire industry around it. The NIL for the star QB in LA or NY might actually be a sound investment even without the alumni buying wins angle. 2035 NC game will be UCLA v Rutgers. You heard it here first.
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RE: NIL Deals
(04-25-2022 06:32 PM)Ypsitownie Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 04:05 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 02:55 PM)Ypsitownie Wrote:  I suspect the reason coaching salaries are so out of control is because it's one of the few things college programs can actually spend money on. Most of them aren't worth much at all. Even many of the successful coaches are only successful because they're good recruiters or got lucky. Why hire a "top recruiter" for $10m/yr when you can hire a program manager and recruit with NIL? The new system is gross, but hopefully it will correct some of the power imbalance between exorbitantly paid coaches and broke college kids on scholie.

Remember the NIL is from rich donors who will disguise the agreements thru business contracts. The school “wink” has nothing to do with the NIzl offer.

The interesting thing here is a small school could attract big time athletes if there are some rich alumni from said school who are sports fans :-)

The $10m/yr is already coming from those rich alumni. There might be a total increase in spending, but a lot of that NIL money will just move from alumni donating and demanding the flavor-of-the-week coach to direct roster recruitment.

Back to the original topic. Long term I think the Kansas and Oklahomas of the league might be screwed. Between coaching salaries and facilities P5 football was expensive, but could only inflate so much. Essentially, there was a payroll cap of (obscene coach salary - $1) and that just got blown away. Moving forward, they have deep pocket alumni willing to donate payroll and call it a NIL endorsement with every car dealership in Lawrence or Norman. However, big market alumni can create an entire industry around it. The NIL for the star QB in LA or NY might actually be a sound investment even without the alumni buying wins angle. 2035 NC game will be UCLA v Rutgers. You heard it here first.
Except people in southern California and metro NYC are not college football crazy, rich donors would have no need to throw millions at kids where there is not a huge demand. Look for Texas to eventually dominate. Lots of rich alums and an insane high school/college football culture.
04-26-2022 06:45 AM
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RE: NIL Deals
(04-26-2022 06:45 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 06:32 PM)Ypsitownie Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 04:05 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(04-25-2022 02:55 PM)Ypsitownie Wrote:  I suspect the reason coaching salaries are so out of control is because it's one of the few things college programs can actually spend money on. Most of them aren't worth much at all. Even many of the successful coaches are only successful because they're good recruiters or got lucky. Why hire a "top recruiter" for $10m/yr when you can hire a program manager and recruit with NIL? The new system is gross, but hopefully it will correct some of the power imbalance between exorbitantly paid coaches and broke college kids on scholie.

Remember the NIL is from rich donors who will disguise the agreements thru business contracts. The school “wink” has nothing to do with the NIzl offer.

The interesting thing here is a small school could attract big time athletes if there are some rich alumni from said school who are sports fans :-)

The $10m/yr is already coming from those rich alumni. There might be a total increase in spending, but a lot of that NIL money will just move from alumni donating and demanding the flavor-of-the-week coach to direct roster recruitment.

Back to the original topic. Long term I think the Kansas and Oklahomas of the league might be screwed. Between coaching salaries and facilities P5 football was expensive, but could only inflate so much. Essentially, there was a payroll cap of (obscene coach salary - $1) and that just got blown away. Moving forward, they have deep pocket alumni willing to donate payroll and call it a NIL endorsement with every car dealership in Lawrence or Norman. However, big market alumni can create an entire industry around it. The NIL for the star QB in LA or NY might actually be a sound investment even without the alumni buying wins angle. 2035 NC game will be UCLA v Rutgers. You heard it here first.
Except people in southern California and metro NYC are not college football crazy, rich donors would have no need to throw millions at kids where there is not a huge demand. Look for Texas to eventually dominate. Lots of rich alums and an insane high school/college football culture.

USC begs to differ
04-26-2022 07:00 AM
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