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RE: 9 Team C-USA
(04-17-2022 05:20 PM)JackedUp Wrote: (04-17-2022 04:49 PM)SMUstang Wrote: The problem with C-USA is it is not regional, it will likely have a very small TV contract, no rivalries except UTEP vs NMSU, not much fan interest with a few exceptions. It is a hodgepodge of schools. I don't think it will last long.
I don’t think any G5 conference is going to last long. Besides What G5 conference is regional? Certainly not the AAC, MWC, CUSA or the Sunbelt. Besides the MAC
BTW How does SMU view the 6 Metro/Market additions? UNT and SMU should make for a good rivalry now that UNT and SMU are on equal footing.
All of those leagues are more regional than the new CUSA...
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RE: 9 Team C-USA
Rivals are made on the field and court just like Marshall/Western turned into a rivalry and quickly...others will be built that way. Tech and Western has build a rivalry because of the early games in the CUSA3.0 and basketball. Its not at the level of Western/Middle or Western/Marshall but it is one of the middle range rivalries built in CUSA.
Most are interstate or border state but winning and losing close hard fought games is how you build a rivalry. The most disappointing thing for me with CUSA 3.0 in that area is UAB/Western didnt get to lay enough times to build that up like the Marshall/Western rivalry
As for TV Western was either first or second (might have changed over the last couple years to second) most shown school in CUSA 3.0 for football on TV. And its not even close for basketball and without looking I bet its not with in 10 games to the second place school in CUSA3.0.
The championship game in football between Western and Tech was the highest RATED CUSA championship game in 10 years. And the highest inter conference game for CUSA in CUSA 3.0. Unless those changed this past season which I havent checked
Hell S. Miss was close to the bottom in both and awful ratings and ODU had to be bottom 1, 2 or 3 in CUSA 3.0 in football games. Now people want to act like the SBC picked up some rating coup with the SBC3. ESPN might pay more but if they do it will be because all cost have went up and they have a existing contract with the SBC and more content to sell. It will not be because they think ratings are all of a sudden going up.
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RE: 9 Team C-USA
(04-17-2022 06:24 PM)SMUstang Wrote: (04-17-2022 06:09 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote: (04-17-2022 04:49 PM)SMUstang Wrote: The problem with C-USA is it is not regional, it will likely have a very small TV contract, no rivalries except UTEP vs NMSU, not much fan interest with a few exceptions. It is a hodgepodge of schools. I don't think it will last long.
The most played rivalry in CUSA 3.0 or 4.0 is MT/WKU and it's not close.
Sorry but according to winsipedia, UTEP vs New Mexico State has been played 98 times in football. That is far more than the 71 times that Middle Tennessee has played Western Kentucky in football. But I'll give you this, the MT vs WKU series is significant. The rest of the conference is a hodgepodge. I just can't see UTEP fans getting very worked up about playing Jacksonville St. or Liberty fans getting very worked up about playing Sam Houston St. Though it should be a pretty good conference in basketball.
I wonder how many times they've played in basketball. The UTEP/NMSU rivalry is over 220 games deep.
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RE: 9 Team C-USA
(04-17-2022 06:24 PM)SMUstang Wrote: (04-17-2022 06:09 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote: (04-17-2022 04:49 PM)SMUstang Wrote: The problem with C-USA is it is not regional, it will likely have a very small TV contract, no rivalries except UTEP vs NMSU, not much fan interest with a few exceptions. It is a hodgepodge of schools. I don't think it will last long.
The most played rivalry in CUSA 3.0 or 4.0 is MT/WKU and it's not close.
Sorry but according to winsipedia, UTEP vs New Mexico State has been played 98 times in football. That is far more than the 71 times that Middle Tennessee has played Western Kentucky in football. But I'll give you this, the MT vs WKU series is significant. The rest of the conference is a hodgepodge. I just can't see UTEP fans getting very worked up about playing Jacksonville St. or Liberty fans getting very worked up about playing Sam Houston St. Though it should be a pretty good conference in basketball.
You think Rice fans are all of a sudden going to get worked up about playing FAU? Or Tulsa and SMU is getting worked up about playing UNCC or FAU....
You are acting like those games just because they are a few hours closer is going to make a difference.....
not one of those schools are going to have much more than school officials and friends and family of players at those games.
That goes for the SBC, MAC, CUSA, AAC....
you can pick games out of each and point out those facts. Stop acting like the AAC's **** dont stink. It does and just as bad as every other P5 conference. The AAC picked up some of the least watched schools from CUSA. Hell the remaining AAC schools other than maybe Memphis drew awful ratings in tv games vs the remaining schools. Of course you might find a outlander of a game that might have meant something to the league standings having good ratings...
that will mostly be all you will find and a huge % of just awful TV ratings.
Out of the 6 schools added to the AAC the only rivalry in the bunch is UTSA vs UNT. That is only between those fans. Nothing regional or nationally. Like I said stop acting like your conference doesnt stink just like all the others
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RE: 9 Team C-USA
In a nine team league, every game is important. You play everyone and every game is a divisional game. So it won’t take long to get to know each other.
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RE: 9 Team C-USA
(04-17-2022 08:16 PM)AssKickingChicken Wrote: In a nine team league, every game is important. You play everyone and every game is a divisional game. So it won’t take long to get to know each other.
And with in 2 years Jax St and SHST wont be considered FBS move ups and I can't vision either being any worse than at least 4 and maybe 6 of the schools leaving CUSA...
Portal is a game changer. If a person really stopped to think about it its basically how UAB turned their whole future in football around. The NCAA allowed them the scholarships to pickup 25+ players transferring from other schools.
If either move up has hired the correct coach it wont take 4+ years to compete at the top. Just like CC if a coach runs a good system and can find the correct players for that system...
that 85% of the battle
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RE: 9 Team C-USA
(04-17-2022 07:48 PM)WKUApollo Wrote: (04-17-2022 07:29 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote: (04-17-2022 08:24 AM)JackedUp Wrote: (04-16-2022 08:40 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote: (04-16-2022 07:58 PM)topper1296 Wrote: I agree that 9 is a good number and I'd be good going to 10 as well if that 10th member can bring something to the table. 14 teams for a G5 conference is too big. 14 teams splits up the much smaller revenue (compared to the P5) pie into too many pieces.
But is isn't necessarily. If ESPN says, "We will pay $1MM per team whether you are 9, 10, 12, 14, or 16 but we have to approve the teams." Would you care? I am seriously asking.
There is no proof of this?
I have asked repeatedly for an article or release showing the financial terms of the SBC/ESPN deal. There is none, like zero.
ESPN is the business of paying the least amount as possible while filling their inventory of Tuesday and Wednesday nights games with SBC teams.
One thing is certain if ESPN was paying the SBC a 400% increase it would plastered over the internet with articles from hometown papers. But there are none zero.
Geez dude…. Get off the SBC stuff. I never mentioned the SBC or any conference for that matter.
Why the vitriol? He was merely responding to a SBC fan and used the SBC as an example for his argument. If someone from another conference comes here to discuss, it's likely I'd use their conference in reply to the discussion on some topics.
Okay Apollo. I thought he was responding to me. Sometimes its hard to tell. My apologies to you and JackedUp. You know I have no disrespect to CUSA..
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RE: 9 Team C-USA
(04-17-2022 08:14 PM)WKUYG Wrote: (04-17-2022 06:24 PM)SMUstang Wrote: (04-17-2022 06:09 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote: (04-17-2022 04:49 PM)SMUstang Wrote: The problem with C-USA is it is not regional, it will likely have a very small TV contract, no rivalries except UTEP vs NMSU, not much fan interest with a few exceptions. It is a hodgepodge of schools. I don't think it will last long.
The most played rivalry in CUSA 3.0 or 4.0 is MT/WKU and it's not close.
Sorry but according to winsipedia, UTEP vs New Mexico State has been played 98 times in football. That is far more than the 71 times that Middle Tennessee has played Western Kentucky in football. But I'll give you this, the MT vs WKU series is significant. The rest of the conference is a hodgepodge. I just can't see UTEP fans getting very worked up about playing Jacksonville St. or Liberty fans getting very worked up about playing Sam Houston St. Though it should be a pretty good conference in basketball.
You think Rice fans are all of a sudden going to get worked up about playing FAU? Or Tulsa and SMU is getting worked up about playing UNCC or FAU....
You are acting like those games just because they are a few hours closer is going to make a difference.....
not one of those schools are going to have much more than school officials and friends and family of players at those games.
That goes for the SBC, MAC, CUSA, AAC....
you can pick games out of each and point out those facts. Stop acting like the AAC's **** dont stink. It does and just as bad as every other P5 conference. The AAC picked up some of the least watched schools from CUSA. Hell the remaining AAC schools other than maybe Memphis drew awful ratings in tv games vs the remaining schools. Of course you might find a outlander of a game that might have meant something to the league standings having good ratings...
that will mostly be all you will find and a huge % of just awful TV ratings.
Out of the 6 schools added to the AAC the only rivalry in the bunch is UTSA vs UNT. That is only between those fans. Nothing regional or nationally. Like I said stop acting like your conference doesnt stink just like all the others
No offense intended. But it is doubtful that C-USA rivals are the only ones here. I believe that most UNT fans would rather see UNT beat SMU than UTSA. And I don't think that the AAC is any better than any other conference. Though obviously ESPN thinks so.
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RE: 9 Team C-USA
(04-17-2022 08:37 PM)SMUstang Wrote: (04-17-2022 08:14 PM)WKUYG Wrote: (04-17-2022 06:24 PM)SMUstang Wrote: (04-17-2022 06:09 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote: (04-17-2022 04:49 PM)SMUstang Wrote: The problem with C-USA is it is not regional, it will likely have a very small TV contract, no rivalries except UTEP vs NMSU, not much fan interest with a few exceptions. It is a hodgepodge of schools. I don't think it will last long.
The most played rivalry in CUSA 3.0 or 4.0 is MT/WKU and it's not close.
Sorry but according to winsipedia, UTEP vs New Mexico State has been played 98 times in football. That is far more than the 71 times that Middle Tennessee has played Western Kentucky in football. But I'll give you this, the MT vs WKU series is significant. The rest of the conference is a hodgepodge. I just can't see UTEP fans getting very worked up about playing Jacksonville St. or Liberty fans getting very worked up about playing Sam Houston St. Though it should be a pretty good conference in basketball.
You think Rice fans are all of a sudden going to get worked up about playing FAU? Or Tulsa and SMU is getting worked up about playing UNCC or FAU....
You are acting like those games just because they are a few hours closer is going to make a difference.....
not one of those schools are going to have much more than school officials and friends and family of players at those games.
That goes for the SBC, MAC, CUSA, AAC....
you can pick games out of each and point out those facts. Stop acting like the AAC's **** dont stink. It does and just as bad as every other P5 conference. The AAC picked up some of the least watched schools from CUSA. Hell the remaining AAC schools other than maybe Memphis drew awful ratings in tv games vs the remaining schools. Of course you might find a outlander of a game that might have meant something to the league standings having good ratings...
that will mostly be all you will find and a huge % of just awful TV ratings.
Out of the 6 schools added to the AAC the only rivalry in the bunch is UTSA vs UNT. That is only between those fans. Nothing regional or nationally. Like I said stop acting like your conference doesnt stink just like all the others
No offense intended. But it is doubtful that C-USA rivals are the only ones here. I believe that most UNT fans would rather see UNT beat SMU than UTSA. And I don't think that the AAC is any better than any other conference. Though obviously ESPN thinks so.
Thats ONE but now list all the others? Again out of the 6 schools AAC picked up and the 3 schools the SBC picked up...
only one rivalry can be found out of the 9 schools. That will be UNT vs UTSA and since then you added SMU vs UNT......
I will wait for the others and please dont give me the bullcrap, well others will grow. That is what we all hope for but most never saw develop...unlike Marshall vs Western. Of course there's POTENIAL but that's the case for all of us. But you wanted to use the most outlander schools to try and make a point and then act like that same thing is not going to happen in the AAC.
You conference **** stinks just like everyone else. It most likely gets worse for the AAC because other than being located in large cities thats all they have in common other than most of the AAC is going to be made up of HISTORIAL LOSER. For the most part
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9 Team C-USA
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RE: 9 Team C-USA
(04-17-2022 07:51 PM)TealNation Wrote: (04-17-2022 05:20 PM)JackedUp Wrote: (04-17-2022 04:49 PM)SMUstang Wrote: The problem with C-USA is it is not regional, it will likely have a very small TV contract, no rivalries except UTEP vs NMSU, not much fan interest with a few exceptions. It is a hodgepodge of schools. I don't think it will last long.
I don’t think any G5 conference is going to last long. Besides What G5 conference is regional? Certainly not the AAC, MWC, CUSA or the Sunbelt. Besides the MAC
BTW How does SMU view the 6 Metro/Market additions? UNT and SMU should make for a good rivalry now that UNT and SMU are on equal footing.
All of those leagues are more regional than the new CUSA...
Sure whatever you say
AAC - Philadelphia to San Antonio 1,740 miles
SBC - Norfolk to San Marcos 1,522 miles
CUSA- Miami to Las Cruces 1,977 miles
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RE: 9 Team C-USA
(04-17-2022 07:11 PM)TealNation Wrote: (04-17-2022 08:31 AM)JackedUp Wrote: (04-16-2022 08:40 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote: (04-16-2022 07:58 PM)topper1296 Wrote: I agree that 9 is a good number and I'd be good going to 10 as well if that 10th member can bring something to the table. 14 teams for a G5 conference is too big. 14 teams splits up the much smaller revenue (compared to the P5) pie into too many pieces.
But is isn't necessarily. If ESPN says, "We will pay $1MM per team whether you are 9, 10, 12, 14, or 16 but we have to approve the teams." Would you care? I am seriously asking.
That happen with the AAC obviously so the legacy AAC universities could keep their 7 million deal while paying the Metro additions 2 million
But ESPN had nothing to do with the Sunbelt additions, the conference teams decided on who to accept and reject
Dumb take. What league just adds without checking with their media providers to see how those particular adds would/could affect their overall media payout?
We know you don't like the SBC but these takes don't make much sense.
What’s the smart take?
We know the AAC financial details and how ESPN specifically wanted Metro schools to keep the legacy payout at 7 million.
ESPN didn’t care who the Sunbelt added. They were just looking for warm bodies and Marshall, Southern Miss and ODU fit the bill. Plus the Eastern schools wanted more eastern teams.
The Sunbelt is staying the same at 500k, worse bowls than CUSA, and Tuesday/Wednesday night games.
It worked out perfectly for JSU, glad to be apart of CUSA and not the Sunbelt. Hard pass
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RE: 9 Team C-USA
(04-17-2022 10:03 PM)JackedUp Wrote: (04-17-2022 07:51 PM)TealNation Wrote: (04-17-2022 05:20 PM)JackedUp Wrote: (04-17-2022 04:49 PM)SMUstang Wrote: The problem with C-USA is it is not regional, it will likely have a very small TV contract, no rivalries except UTEP vs NMSU, not much fan interest with a few exceptions. It is a hodgepodge of schools. I don't think it will last long.
I don’t think any G5 conference is going to last long. Besides What G5 conference is regional? Certainly not the AAC, MWC, CUSA or the Sunbelt. Besides the MAC
BTW How does SMU view the 6 Metro/Market additions? UNT and SMU should make for a good rivalry now that UNT and SMU are on equal footing.
All of those leagues are more regional than the new CUSA...
Sure whatever you say
AAC - Philadelphia to San Antonio 1,740 miles
SBC - Norfolk to San Marcos 1,522 miles
CUSA- Miami to Las Cruces 1,977 miles
This isn't a good faith argument.
Those leagues have divisions. We have two real pairs and another if you squint. But we've got one bad outlier on one side and one of the pairs way out by themselves on the other.
CUSA is defendable in some ways, but "just as regional" ain't one of them.
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RE: 9 Team C-USA
Potential future new rivalries
AAC:
UAB v Memphis already has some history
UNCC v ECU
FAU v South Florida
SMU v New TX schools
CUSA:
SHSU v La Tech
JSU v Middle
JSU v WKU
UTEP v NMSU has some history
UTEP v SHSU
Liberty v WKU have a feeling this one will become a rivalry
SBC:
USM v South
App V Marshall has some history
JMU v Marshall
JMU v App
JMU v ODU
USM v ULL especially in baseball
All of the conferences have the potential to grow some fun match ups.
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RE: 9 Team C-USA
(04-17-2022 10:15 PM)JackedUp Wrote: (04-17-2022 07:11 PM)TealNation Wrote: (04-17-2022 08:31 AM)JackedUp Wrote: (04-16-2022 08:40 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote: (04-16-2022 07:58 PM)topper1296 Wrote: I agree that 9 is a good number and I'd be good going to 10 as well if that 10th member can bring something to the table. 14 teams for a G5 conference is too big. 14 teams splits up the much smaller revenue (compared to the P5) pie into too many pieces.
But is isn't necessarily. If ESPN says, "We will pay $1MM per team whether you are 9, 10, 12, 14, or 16 but we have to approve the teams." Would you care? I am seriously asking.
That happen with the AAC obviously so the legacy AAC universities could keep their 7 million deal while paying the Metro additions 2 million
But ESPN had nothing to do with the Sunbelt additions, the conference teams decided on who to accept and reject
Dumb take. What league just adds without checking with their media providers to see how those particular adds would/could affect their overall media payout?
We know you don't like the SBC but these takes don't make much sense.
What’s the smart take?
We know the AAC financial details and how ESPN specifically wanted Metro schools to keep the legacy payout at 7 million.
ESPN didn’t care who the Sunbelt added. They were just looking for warm bodies and Marshall, Southern Miss and ODU fit the bill. Plus the Eastern schools wanted more eastern teams.
The Sunbelt is staying the same at 500k, worse bowls than CUSA, and Tuesday/Wednesday night games.
It worked out perfectly for JSU, glad to be apart of CUSA and not the Sunbelt. Hard pass
Yeah...okay. Since, you're so big on sources, what source do you have that the SBC will stay at the current payout? Or is it all biased assumption?
That's good to have conference pride! The SBC isn't for everyone. The schools and majority of fans here seem to be happy with one another, so that's all that truly matters in the G5 world.
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RE: 9 Team C-USA
On rivalries...
sometimes rivalries develop between programs who are not close (geographically) and have not played often. Give you two examples for us. A very short, but intense, rivalry existed between Tech and UCF in the 1990's. We were both independents in football and saw each other as akin. It crossed over into baseball and hoops too! Then, just like that it was over, and we haven't played since. And we developed a very strong rivalry with Hawaii while in the WAC. Called the Pineapple-Pinecone rivalry. It got heated! Pregame scraps, words exchanged...it supplanted our rivalry with Fresno State ("battle for the bone") as our biggest WAC rivalry.
Point is, there is no reason that new rivalries won't develop, and quickly, in CUSA 4.0.
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RE: 9 Team C-USA
(04-18-2022 07:25 AM)Tech80 Wrote: On rivalries...
sometimes rivalries develop between programs who are not close (geographically) and have not played often. Give you two examples for us. A very short, but intense, rivalry existed between Tech and UCF in the 1990's. We were both independents in football and saw each other as akin. It crossed over into baseball and hoops too! Then, just like that it was over, and we haven't played since. And we developed a very strong rivalry with Hawaii while in the WAC. Called the Pineapple-Pinecone rivalry. It got heated! Pregame scraps, words exchanged...it supplanted our rivalry with Fresno State ("battle for the bone") as our biggest WAC rivalry.
Point is, there is no reason that new rivalries won't develop, and quickly, in CUSA 4.0.
I don't think this version of CUSA will last all that long either, but while it does I do think there are some chances for some additional rivalries on top of the obvious UTEP-NMSU and 100 miles of hate.
Tech has some history with WKU and UTEP (and hopefully will be battling WKU for titles). If we end up with the same two or three teams in the mix for football every year (and some of those games happen later in the season when it's clear that they matter) that could help (like if Tech/WKU/Liberty are fighting for first every year, or better yet, if Liberty and WKU are battling for second every year).
But like 80 says, for non-geographic leagues like this, it will probably just happen organically. Some game will get chippy, or a series will be close for 3-4 years in a row. We'll just have to see.
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RE: 9 Team C-USA
(04-18-2022 07:25 AM)Tech80 Wrote: On rivalries...
sometimes rivalries develop between programs who are not close (geographically) and have not played often. Give you two examples for us. A very short, but intense, rivalry existed between Tech and UCF in the 1990's. We were both independents in football and saw each other as akin. It crossed over into baseball and hoops too! Then, just like that it was over, and we haven't played since. And we developed a very strong rivalry with Hawaii while in the WAC. Called the Pineapple-Pinecone rivalry. It got heated! Pregame scraps, words exchanged...it supplanted our rivalry with Fresno State ("battle for the bone") as our biggest WAC rivalry.
Point is, there is no reason that new rivalries won't develop, and quickly, in CUSA 4.0.
Prime example was ODU and UTEP. That turned into a nice little rivalry to watch those fans go back and forth. Obviously it wasn’t heated but was clearly fun to see. I think WKU and Liberty will heat up FAST.
I think the SBC nailed it when it comes to adding rivalries that could blossom. Marshall has history with App and GaSouthern. JMU/ODU has history and will be big, same with USM/USA. I don’t like the SBC but they definitely got it right with the four they added imo. Will it add money? I doubt much. Will it add fan interest? Absolutely! Every conference has deadweight but I’m excited to see what CUSA4.0 can do.
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RE: 9 Team C-USA
(04-17-2022 10:20 PM)inutech Wrote: (04-17-2022 10:03 PM)JackedUp Wrote: (04-17-2022 07:51 PM)TealNation Wrote: (04-17-2022 05:20 PM)JackedUp Wrote: (04-17-2022 04:49 PM)SMUstang Wrote: The problem with C-USA is it is not regional, it will likely have a very small TV contract, no rivalries except UTEP vs NMSU, not much fan interest with a few exceptions. It is a hodgepodge of schools. I don't think it will last long.
I don’t think any G5 conference is going to last long. Besides What G5 conference is regional? Certainly not the AAC, MWC, CUSA or the Sunbelt. Besides the MAC
BTW How does SMU view the 6 Metro/Market additions? UNT and SMU should make for a good rivalry now that UNT and SMU are on equal footing.
All of those leagues are more regional than the new CUSA...
Sure whatever you say
AAC - Philadelphia to San Antonio 1,740 miles
SBC - Norfolk to San Marcos 1,522 miles
CUSA- Miami to Las Cruces 1,977 miles
This isn't a good faith argument.
Those leagues have divisions. We have two real pairs and another if you squint. But we've got one bad outlier on one side and one of the pairs way out by themselves on the other.
CUSA is defendable in some ways, but "just as regional" ain't one of them.
But saying the Sun Belt is more regional than C-USA isn’t a good argument either. None of the leagues regional. C-USA is the least regional but that doesn’t make the other two regional.
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RE: 9 Team C-USA
(04-18-2022 09:03 AM)RustonBulldog Wrote: (04-17-2022 10:20 PM)inutech Wrote: (04-17-2022 10:03 PM)JackedUp Wrote: (04-17-2022 07:51 PM)TealNation Wrote: (04-17-2022 05:20 PM)JackedUp Wrote: I don’t think any G5 conference is going to last long. Besides What G5 conference is regional? Certainly not the AAC, MWC, CUSA or the Sunbelt. Besides the MAC
BTW How does SMU view the 6 Metro/Market additions? UNT and SMU should make for a good rivalry now that UNT and SMU are on equal footing.
All of those leagues are more regional than the new CUSA...
Sure whatever you say
AAC - Philadelphia to San Antonio 1,740 miles
SBC - Norfolk to San Marcos 1,522 miles
CUSA- Miami to Las Cruces 1,977 miles
This isn't a good faith argument.
Those leagues have divisions. We have two real pairs and another if you squint. But we've got one bad outlier on one side and one of the pairs way out by themselves on the other.
CUSA is defendable in some ways, but "just as regional" ain't one of them.
But saying the Sun Belt is more regional than C-USA isn’t a good argument either. None of the leagues regional. C-USA is the least regional but that doesn’t make the other two regional.
The overall footprint of the 'belt and AAC are big, but in both leagues the divisions are pretty regional. And in a 14 team league, you so rarely play cross-divisionally that each division might as well be your "conference."
But yes, both stretch from Texas to the East coast.
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