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Sports Business Journal: FOX and B1G have deal in place
And Fox is apparently having a hand in selecting the conference's second partner(maybe paywalled):

https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Jo...media.aspx

If that 2nd partner is not ESPN, watch out.
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(04-15-2022 09:52 PM)Rube Dali Wrote:  If that 2nd partner is not ESPN, watch out.

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RE: Sports Business Journal: FOX and B1G have deal in place
(04-15-2022 09:52 PM)Rube Dali Wrote:  And Fox is apparently having a hand in selecting the conference's second partner(maybe paywalled):

https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Jo...media.aspx

If that 2nd partner is not ESPN, watch out.

The best news in this article for college football is how many networks are interested in bidding. NBC, looking to add, CBS, looking to replace the SEC, and Turner Sporrs looking to get into the college football business. That should bode well for conferences with expiring media deals in the next few years..
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Good, Mark Silverman is in the room so Kevin Warren doesn't screw this up. Silverman should be running this conference.
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RE: Sports Business Journal: FOX and B1G have deal in place
(04-15-2022 09:52 PM)Rube Dali Wrote:  And Fox is apparently having a hand in selecting the conference's second partner(maybe paywalled):

https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Jo...media.aspx

If that 2nd partner is not ESPN, watch out.

Thanks for posting, very interesting. If that 2nd partner isn't ESPN the PAC is going to be in a great position.
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A final (cross-networks) deal in place by Memorial Day - that's right around the corner.
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This is exciting news as a Big 10 fan. I feel reassured knowing that the adults, not Warren, are taking the lead on this.

I think the Big 10 is in a unique spot where they can come in and really capitalize on the growing popularity of streaming.
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(04-15-2022 10:37 PM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote:  
(04-15-2022 09:52 PM)Rube Dali Wrote:  And Fox is apparently having a hand in selecting the conference's second partner(maybe paywalled):

https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Jo...media.aspx

If that 2nd partner is not ESPN, watch out.

Thanks for posting, very interesting. If that 2nd partner isn't ESPN the PAC is going to be in a great position.

I'm very interested in how the PAC's new tv deal goes. Particularly if their new partners want some central time games...
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With CBS and NBC both having sister streaming services, it would be interesting to see one of them be the 2nd partner, thus giving the Big 10 multiple OTA games each week (FOX & NBC/CBS) plus games on a streaming service.
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RE: Sports Business Journal: FOX and B1G have deal in place
I’d still be very surprised if *some* Big Ten games don’t end up on ESPN (even if it’s a reduced package compared to the current one). ESPN is still ultimately the entity that can pay the most money out of anyone for the linear networks and the Big Ten understands how important their exposure is on that particular platform.

I’d also be surprised if there’s any content on a streaming-only service like Amazon or Apple when every major linear network is bidding for rights.

What I wouldn’t be surprised with is if there are 3 or even 4 network partners a la the NFL (which is where Kevin Warren comes from). No one should be assuming that this is going to be a 50/50 split between just 2 media companies. You could see Fox with a primary contract plus a weekly game on ESPN/ABC plus another weekly game on either NBC or CBS.
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(04-15-2022 11:06 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  This is exciting news as a Big 10 fan. I feel reassured knowing that the adults, not Warren, are taking the lead on this.

I think the Big 10 is in a unique spot where they can come in and really capitalize on the growing popularity of streaming.

I’m actually not reassured that Fox executives are involved at all. This should be a totally neutral process with completely open bidding for all rights. Instead, it appears that Fox has at least a renewal of its current package, so it’s really only the ESPN portion that’s up for grabs while Fox executives listen to the pitches from competitors. I don’t understand how that’s going to maximize value when 50%-plus of the rights are already off the table and didn’t go to the open market. That’s actually the mistake that the SEC repeatedly made with both ESPN and CBS over the years and resulted in them getting underpaid compared to their ratings. We’ll see.
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To clarify my earlier post, I’d be really surprised if there are any streaming-only football games. Some men’s basketball or non-revenue sports would be a different story. The latter is the only justifiable reason (at least to me) of allowing the Fox executives in the room where games that are currently on BTN Plus (which is a terrible and expensive platform) can be integrated into a different streaming platform (such as ESPN+ or Apple TV+). 10 years ago, the Big Ten was ahead of everyone else in terms of exposure for non-football/basketball sports, but they’re now arguably behind a whole host of leagues because BTN Plus is an inferior platform. That’s something that Fox/BTN has to sign off on, so I can understand if they need knowledge of those types of proposals. I’m still not a fan of them being involved with the primary tier 1 football/basketball rights discussions at all, though.
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Getting Fox more into the Big Ten inventory does have me wonder about the existing relationship the network has with the Big East. As in, now the Big East won’t own the dial (for hoops).
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RE: Sports Business Journal: FOX and B1G have deal in place
(04-16-2022 09:44 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  To clarify my earlier post, I’d be really surprised if there are any streaming-only football games. Some men’s basketball or non-revenue sports would be a different story. The latter is the only justifiable reason (at least to me) of allowing the Fox executives in the room where games that are currently on BTN Plus (which is a terrible and expensive platform) can be integrated into a different streaming platform (such as ESPN+ or Apple TV+). 10 years ago, the Big Ten was ahead of everyone else in terms of exposure for non-football/basketball sports, but they’re now arguably behind a whole host of leagues because BTN Plus is an inferior platform. That’s something that Fox/BTN has to sign off on, so I can understand if they need knowledge of those types of proposals. I’m still not a fan of them being involved with the primary tier 1 football/basketball rights discussions at all, though.

What's most odd to me about FOX is they really have no robust online offerings at all. Everybody and their brother is creating a streaming service these days and FOX hasn't budged.

I'm not sure what that says about the future of the company, but it puts their content partners at a disadvantage.
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(04-16-2022 09:58 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  What's most odd to me about FOX is they really have no robust online offerings at all. Everybody and their brother is creating a streaming service these days and FOX hasn't budged.

I'm not sure what that says about the future of the company, but it puts their content partners at a disadvantage.

Because they sold off all their back-library to Disney. They have no content.
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(04-16-2022 10:01 AM)djsuperfly Wrote:  
(04-16-2022 09:58 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  What's most odd to me about FOX is they really have no robust online offerings at all. Everybody and their brother is creating a streaming service these days and FOX hasn't budged.

I'm not sure what that says about the future of the company, but it puts their content partners at a disadvantage.

Because they sold off all their back-library to Disney. They have no content.

Yes, and Disney has been upfront that their purchase of the Fox assets was about building out the Disney+ streaming service above all else.

It seems that Rupert Murdoch effectively came to the conclusion that the Fox assets were more valuable combined with Disney in a new streaming world compared to going it alone. He’s getting the financial benefit of being one of Disney’s largest shareholders while still running his own Fox networks. Plus, I think there was an undercurrent that he trusted Disney to take steward of those assets better than his family. (Succession on HBO has thinly-veiled parallels to the Murdoch family fight over the Fox/News Corp. business.)
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(04-16-2022 08:33 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  I’d still be very surprised if *some* Big Ten games don’t end up on ESPN (even if it’s a reduced package compared to the current one). ESPN is still ultimately the entity that can pay the most money out of anyone for the linear networks and the Big Ten understands how important their exposure is on that particular platform.

I’d also be surprised if there’s any content on a streaming-only service like Amazon or Apple when every major linear network is bidding for rights.

What I wouldn’t be surprised with is if there are 3 or even 4 network partners a la the NFL (which is where Kevin Warren comes from). No one should be assuming that this is going to be a 50/50 split between just 2 media companies. You could see Fox with a primary contract plus a weekly game on ESPN/ABC plus another weekly game on either NBC or CBS.

That would be the smart way to go - and I think the Big Ten has enough quality inventory to do it.
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(04-15-2022 10:15 PM)Tmac13 Wrote:  
(04-15-2022 09:52 PM)Rube Dali Wrote:  And Fox is apparently having a hand in selecting the conference's second partner(maybe paywalled):

https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Jo...media.aspx

If that 2nd partner is not ESPN, watch out.

The best news in this article for college football is how many networks are interested in bidding. NBC, looking to add, CBS, looking to replace the SEC, and Turner Sporrs looking to get into the college football business. That should bode well for conferences with expiring media deals in the next few years..

From the article (it also notes Amazon and Apple are interested in streaming):

"...The specifics of Fox’s new deal are not set — not even Big Ten or Fox executives know how many games that package will have as the conference still is trying to sell one, two or possibly three more packages to other suitors. The number of games going to Fox is dependent on how the conference structures these other packages. The conference expects to award these packages by Memorial Day.

Fox will have the main package and its deal will feature at least as many games as its current deal, probably more. Under its current agreement, Fox carries 27 Big Ten football games each season.

So far, traditional media companies CBS, ESPN and NBC have taken meetings with the Big Ten and Fox Sports.

CBS is looking for top-level football games to replace its Saturday afternoon SEC game, which is leaving for ESPN after the 2023 season.

NBC has pushed for a weekly Big Ten game that it can package with Notre Dame for a Saturday doubleheader. NBC has the rights to Notre Dame football through the 2025 season.

ESPN carries more of the top college football games than any other network and wants to keep a piece of the always highly rated Big Ten.

Turner Sports also has expressed interest, though its executives have waited on making a formal pitch until Discovery’s purchase of WarnerMedia passed through regulatory channels. That $43 billion deal became official April 8, and they are expected to meet with the Big Ten in the coming weeks....":
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(04-15-2022 10:37 PM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote:  
(04-15-2022 09:52 PM)Rube Dali Wrote:  And Fox is apparently having a hand in selecting the conference's second partner(maybe paywalled):

https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Jo...media.aspx

If that 2nd partner is not ESPN, watch out.

Thanks for posting, very interesting. If that 2nd partner isn't ESPN the PAC is going to be in a great position.

Pac and Big 12 are probably hoping that is the case. Its not clear if NBC, CBS and TNT would be as interested in those 2 conferences, at least for football.
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(04-16-2022 11:45 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(04-16-2022 08:33 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  I’d still be very surprised if *some* Big Ten games don’t end up on ESPN (even if it’s a reduced package compared to the current one). ESPN is still ultimately the entity that can pay the most money out of anyone for the linear networks and the Big Ten understands how important their exposure is on that particular platform.

I’d also be surprised if there’s any content on a streaming-only service like Amazon or Apple when every major linear network is bidding for rights.

What I wouldn’t be surprised with is if there are 3 or even 4 network partners a la the NFL (which is where Kevin Warren comes from). No one should be assuming that this is going to be a 50/50 split between just 2 media companies. You could see Fox with a primary contract plus a weekly game on ESPN/ABC plus another weekly game on either NBC or CBS.

That would be the smart way to go - and I think the Big Ten has enough quality inventory to do it.

And the Memorial Day timeline makes it seem that expansion, to create even more content, is not on the table at this time.
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