(04-21-2022 11:05 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-21-2022 10:22 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(04-21-2022 07:06 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(04-20-2022 02:09 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-20-2022 12:07 PM)Wedge Wrote:  FS1 is a step below even ESPN2. Check the ratings for CFB games on Sports Media Watch. If you want a larger audience, you'd rather be on ESPN2.

If there were still CFB games on TBS/TNT, which may happen again in future contracts, their audience sizes for CFB would typically be between those of ESPN and ESPN2.

Its below, but it has been gaining. Its in the same "tier." You've got:
ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox
ESPN
gap
ESPN2, FS1
bigger
gap
FS2, ESPNNews, CBSSN, most conference network games--there are exceptions

I'm not aware of ANY provider that doesn't put ESPN and ESPN2 on the same tier, and usually adjacent channels!

that's not super important. SyFy channel and TruTV are on practically every basic cable package just like CNN and USA and Fox News and ESPN, but people mostly don't watch them.

ESPN just gets more viewers than ESPN2, even when they're channel 100 and 101 on your program guide.

Quote:What's more, you completely left out ESPNU. I think it's more like this:

ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox
ESPN, ESPN2
gap
ESPNU, FS1
bigger gap
FS2, ESPNNews, CBSSN, most conference network games--there are exceptions

College Football Ratings from 2021

You can do your own spreadsheeting from there. I'm going to arbitarily pick October, and count up the games above 1.0M viewers. Let's see what the numbers say, in terms of tiers. (Yes, this disadvantages NBC that has only a couple of Notre Dame games, and CBS only has one SEC game per week, but I can't do this all day today)

Interesting scoreboard. ESPN 19 games, ABC 15, Fox 11, CBS 7, NBC 3, ESPN2 2, FS1 2, BTN 2. So maybe October 2021 was atypical, or maybe ESPN2 really is a tier below ESPN.

Let's see if we limit to 2M games. ABC 14, ESPN 11, FOX 9, CBS 7, NBC 3.

I'm curious what happens if we expand to 500k, what happens with ESPN2, FS1, BTN, ESPN-U, etc. ESPN 26, ABC 15, ESPN2 14, Fox 11, CBS 7, BTN 5, NBC 3, FS1 3.

So ESPN2 lives between ESPN and FS1, BTN, ESPN-U. And FS1 doesn't perform much better than BTN, which suprised me anyway. ESPN-U doesn't perform well at all looking at it this way.

Didn't realize they had started rating BTN. But the big BTN games were Ohio St. games. I'm sure there are similarly high rated SECN games, but they don't normally get Alabama or Georgia. FS1 never gets Ohio St. A relevant week is 9/11

Ball St.-Penn St. FS1 3:30 881k
Buffalo-Nebraska BTN 3:30 626k
EMU-Wisconsin FS1 7:00 557k
Youngstown/MSU & Ind. St./NW BTN 12:00 307k
Idaho/IU & Howard/MD BTN 7:30 245k

Meanwhile on ESPN2
UAB/UGA 3:30 1.118 M
NCSU/Miss St. 7:00 756k
S. Carolina/ECU 12:00 585k

Like I said, ESPN2 lives between ESPN/OTA and FS1 / BTN. Let's check in on ESPN on 9/11....
Texas-Arkansas 7 pm 3M+
Pitt-Tennessee 12:00 1.7M
Utah-BYU 10:15 1.5M

EDIT: Not trying to throw shade on SECN, we have only guesses as to their numbers. They've got 3 SEC conference games a week, but whether you think that means ESPN numbers, ESPN 2 numbers or BTN numbers says more about your biases than about SECN.

Yes, BTN had Ohio State and FS1 didn't. But FS1 had ...yeah you're right. Not a lot of Big Ten football on FS1 last October

(04-21-2022 10:30 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(04-21-2022 07:43 AM)XLance Wrote:  Is it know if ESPN/ABC has given the SEC an exclusive time slot to broadcast their CBS replacement game?

This is where I think a lot of people are getting confused.

The SEC is guaranteed to have its #1 game on ABC every week. However, it does *not* have to be in the 3:30 pm ET time slot like it was for CBS. ABC can move it to prime time if they'd like (which will likely be quite common). ABC/ESPN will have more flexibility with the SEC regarding time slots than CBS had.

That's where people a lot of people are getting their wires crossed with respect to the Big Ten negotiations. That SEC setup (an ABC game every week that can be moved to different time slots) is similar to what the Big Ten has right now with ABC/ESPN and there's no reason why it can't be offered again. The new SEC deal doesn't preclude that from happening at all.

What I thought when I heard the ESPN deal was the SEC was guaranteed the 3:30 slot on ABC each week and any prime time games would be bonus games, it wasn't 3:30pm and if they move it to prime time it becomes open. If the SEC just gets one game on ABC then that opens more room on ABC for the Big Ten. If the SEC will always get the 3:30pm slot and have plenty of chances for the prime time game, that's a lot of weeks they will get two ABC games in a week, leaving fewer opportunities for the Big Ten.

(04-21-2022 12:01 PM)schmolik Wrote:  

(04-21-2022 10:30 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(04-21-2022 07:43 AM)XLance Wrote:  Is it know if ESPN/ABC has given the SEC an exclusive time slot to broadcast their CBS replacement game?

This is where I think a lot of people are getting confused.

The SEC is guaranteed to have its #1 game on ABC every week. However, it does *not* have to be in the 3:30 pm ET time slot like it was for CBS. ABC can move it to prime time if they'd like (which will likely be quite common). ABC/ESPN will have more flexibility with the SEC regarding time slots than CBS had.

That's where people a lot of people are getting their wires crossed with respect to the Big Ten negotiations. That SEC setup (an ABC game every week that can be moved to different time slots) is similar to what the Big Ten has right now with ABC/ESPN and there's no reason why it can't be offered again. The new SEC deal doesn't preclude that from happening at all.

What I thought when I heard the ESPN deal was the SEC was guaranteed the 3:30 slot on ABC each week and any prime time games would be bonus games, it wasn't 3:30pm and if they move it to prime time it becomes open. If the SEC just gets one game on ABC then that opens more room on ABC for the Big Ten. If the SEC will always get the 3:30pm slot and have plenty of chances for the prime time game, that's a lot of weeks they will get two ABC games in a week, leaving fewer opportunities for the Big Ten.

Here's a New York Times article from the time of the SEC/ESPN announcement:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/10/sport...-deal.html

It's a little muddled where it alludes to regular late afternoon games, but then both ESPN and Greg Sankey emphasized the complete flexibility to put any game in any time slot on any of the ABC/ESPN networks.

Also: ABC is not limited in the number of SEC games they televise. There might be two in any week, such as an SEC game on ABC at 3:30 ET and another at 7 ET. We will see more SEC games on ABC than there have ever been on CBS.

With as much money as ESPN paid to get the full SEC package, you have to think that they are going to promote the crap out of those games and air them in prominent time slots. I’m not sure the Big 10 wants to play 2nd fiddle if they can be the biggest college football property at 2 of the other 3 networks (CBS, FOX, NBC)

I can see ESPN maybe getting a baby package of a few games to air on ESPN/ESPN2.

I’ll be curious to see where the Big 12 and PAC 12 content goes but I have a feeling they will be accessories worked around SEC/Big 10 content, who will be their respective network’s centerpiece content.

(04-21-2022 12:18 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(04-21-2022 12:01 PM)schmolik Wrote:  

(04-21-2022 10:30 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(04-21-2022 07:43 AM)XLance Wrote:  Is it know if ESPN/ABC has given the SEC an exclusive time slot to broadcast their CBS replacement game?

This is where I think a lot of people are getting confused.

The SEC is guaranteed to have its #1 game on ABC every week. However, it does *not* have to be in the 3:30 pm ET time slot like it was for CBS. ABC can move it to prime time if they'd like (which will likely be quite common). ABC/ESPN will have more flexibility with the SEC regarding time slots than CBS had.

That's where people a lot of people are getting their wires crossed with respect to the Big Ten negotiations. That SEC setup (an ABC game every week that can be moved to different time slots) is similar to what the Big Ten has right now with ABC/ESPN and there's no reason why it can't be offered again. The new SEC deal doesn't preclude that from happening at all.

What I thought when I heard the ESPN deal was the SEC was guaranteed the 3:30 slot on ABC each week and any prime time games would be bonus games, it wasn't 3:30pm and if they move it to prime time it becomes open. If the SEC just gets one game on ABC then that opens more room on ABC for the Big Ten. If the SEC will always get the 3:30pm slot and have plenty of chances for the prime time game, that's a lot of weeks they will get two ABC games in a week, leaving fewer opportunities for the Big Ten.

Here's a New York Times article from the time of the SEC/ESPN announcement:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/10/sport...-deal.html

It's a little muddled where it alludes to regular late afternoon games, but then both ESPN and Greg Sankey emphasized the complete flexibility to put any game in any time slot on any of the ABC/ESPN networks.

More direct source than the Times:
ESPN press release

Quote:SEC on ABC Football Games is Hallmark of New Agreement
ABC will air an SEC-controlled football game each week beginning in 2024, including a regular late-afternoon kickoff. In addition, ESPN will have the ability to feature marquee SEC games on ABC’s Saturday Night Football for the first time, ensuring some of the biggest games in the conference each year are featured in primetime.

Scheduling Flexibility with Conference’s Top Matchups
With ABC added to the arsenal of SEC football outlets, along with ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU and SEC Network, ESPN will maximize the SEC’s exposure and reach while simultaneously serving the fans and conference member schools. As a pillar of this strategy, the conference’s top matchup each week will no longer be locked into the late afternoon window and instead, ESPN will have flexibility to position such games in the window and on the network that best maximizes exposure.

That sounds like *an* SEC game is locked in on ABC at 3:30, ("ABC will air an SEC-controlled football game each week beginning in 2024, including a regular late-afternoon kickoff.")

but ABC/ESPN have the option to show whatever SEC game whenever. The ABC 3:30 game doesn't have to be the #1 SEC game. ("the conference’s top matchup each week will no longer be locked into the late afternoon window")

Disney could show No. 1 Alabama vs No. 4 Oklahoma at 3:30 on ABC, or 8:00 on ABC, or on ESPN, or on the SEC Network, or ESPN-U if they so choose.

But 3:30 or 4:00, it's SEC on ABC time.

(04-21-2022 12:34 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  With as much money as ESPN paid to get the full SEC package, you have to think that they are going to promote the crap out of those games and air them in prominent time slots. I’m not sure the Big 10 wants to play 2nd fiddle if they can be the biggest college football property at 2 of the other 3 networks (CBS, FOX, NBC)

I can see ESPN maybe getting a baby package of a few games to air on ESPN/ESPN2.

I’ll be curious to see where the Big 12 and PAC 12 content goes but I have a feeling they will be accessories worked around SEC/Big 10 content, who will be their respective network’s centerpiece content.

Bingo! That's the only reason we need to get the Big Ten OFF the Disney platform. Any conference other than the SEC will be second banana. Full stop. Believe me, if FOX treated the Big Ten the same way then I would want the Big Ten OFF Fox.

Like I said at another thread, someone here is trying to justify continuing to pay for Disney Plus.

(04-21-2022 12:18 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(04-21-2022 12:01 PM)schmolik Wrote:  

(04-21-2022 10:30 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(04-21-2022 07:43 AM)XLance Wrote:  Is it know if ESPN/ABC has given the SEC an exclusive time slot to broadcast their CBS replacement game?

This is where I think a lot of people are getting confused.

The SEC is guaranteed to have its #1 game on ABC every week. However, it does *not* have to be in the 3:30 pm ET time slot like it was for CBS. ABC can move it to prime time if they'd like (which will likely be quite common). ABC/ESPN will have more flexibility with the SEC regarding time slots than CBS had.

That's where people a lot of people are getting their wires crossed with respect to the Big Ten negotiations. That SEC setup (an ABC game every week that can be moved to different time slots) is similar to what the Big Ten has right now with ABC/ESPN and there's no reason why it can't be offered again. The new SEC deal doesn't preclude that from happening at all.

What I thought when I heard the ESPN deal was the SEC was guaranteed the 3:30 slot on ABC each week and any prime time games would be bonus games, it wasn't 3:30pm and if they move it to prime time it becomes open. If the SEC just gets one game on ABC then that opens more room on ABC for the Big Ten. If the SEC will always get the 3:30pm slot and have plenty of chances for the prime time game, that's a lot of weeks they will get two ABC games in a week, leaving fewer opportunities for the Big Ten.

Here's a New York Times article from the time of the SEC/ESPN announcement:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/10/sport...-deal.html

It's a little muddled where it alludes to regular late afternoon games, but then both ESPN and Greg Sankey emphasized the complete flexibility to put any game in any time slot on any of the ABC/ESPN networks.

Here's an excerpt from the ESPN announcement:

"Beginning in 2024, ABC will air an SEC game every week, including a regular late-afternoon kickoff, and will have the option to feature an SEC game on ABC's Saturday Night Football for the first time."

Sounds like every week at 3:30 pm PLUS the option to add a prime time game on top of that.

(04-21-2022 02:11 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(04-21-2022 12:18 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(04-21-2022 12:01 PM)schmolik Wrote:  

(04-21-2022 10:30 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(04-21-2022 07:43 AM)XLance Wrote:  Is it know if ESPN/ABC has given the SEC an exclusive time slot to broadcast their CBS replacement game?

This is where I think a lot of people are getting confused.

The SEC is guaranteed to have its #1 game on ABC every week. However, it does *not* have to be in the 3:30 pm ET time slot like it was for CBS. ABC can move it to prime time if they'd like (which will likely be quite common). ABC/ESPN will have more flexibility with the SEC regarding time slots than CBS had.

That's where people a lot of people are getting their wires crossed with respect to the Big Ten negotiations. That SEC setup (an ABC game every week that can be moved to different time slots) is similar to what the Big Ten has right now with ABC/ESPN and there's no reason why it can't be offered again. The new SEC deal doesn't preclude that from happening at all.

What I thought when I heard the ESPN deal was the SEC was guaranteed the 3:30 slot on ABC each week and any prime time games would be bonus games, it wasn't 3:30pm and if they move it to prime time it becomes open. If the SEC just gets one game on ABC then that opens more room on ABC for the Big Ten. If the SEC will always get the 3:30pm slot and have plenty of chances for the prime time game, that's a lot of weeks they will get two ABC games in a week, leaving fewer opportunities for the Big Ten.

Here's a New York Times article from the time of the SEC/ESPN announcement:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/10/sport...-deal.html

It's a little muddled where it alludes to regular late afternoon games, but then both ESPN and Greg Sankey emphasized the complete flexibility to put any game in any time slot on any of the ABC/ESPN networks.

Here's an excerpt from the ESPN announcement:

"Beginning in 2024, ABC will air an SEC game every week, including a regular late-afternoon kickoff, and will have the option to feature an SEC game on ABC's Saturday Night Football for the first time."

Sounds like every week at 3:30 pm PLUS the option to add a prime time game on top of that.

The noon games tend to be more regional, so I wouldn’t rule out some areas getting nothing but SEC games on a fall Saturday.

(04-21-2022 03:19 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  

(04-21-2022 02:11 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(04-21-2022 12:18 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(04-21-2022 12:01 PM)schmolik Wrote:  

(04-21-2022 10:30 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  This is where I think a lot of people are getting confused.

The SEC is guaranteed to have its #1 game on ABC every week. However, it does *not* have to be in the 3:30 pm ET time slot like it was for CBS. ABC can move it to prime time if they'd like (which will likely be quite common). ABC/ESPN will have more flexibility with the SEC regarding time slots than CBS had.

That's where people a lot of people are getting their wires crossed with respect to the Big Ten negotiations. That SEC setup (an ABC game every week that can be moved to different time slots) is similar to what the Big Ten has right now with ABC/ESPN and there's no reason why it can't be offered again. The new SEC deal doesn't preclude that from happening at all.

What I thought when I heard the ESPN deal was the SEC was guaranteed the 3:30 slot on ABC each week and any prime time games would be bonus games, it wasn't 3:30pm and if they move it to prime time it becomes open. If the SEC just gets one game on ABC then that opens more room on ABC for the Big Ten. If the SEC will always get the 3:30pm slot and have plenty of chances for the prime time game, that's a lot of weeks they will get two ABC games in a week, leaving fewer opportunities for the Big Ten.

Here's a New York Times article from the time of the SEC/ESPN announcement:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/10/sport...-deal.html

It's a little muddled where it alludes to regular late afternoon games, but then both ESPN and Greg Sankey emphasized the complete flexibility to put any game in any time slot on any of the ABC/ESPN networks.

Here's an excerpt from the ESPN announcement:

"Beginning in 2024, ABC will air an SEC game every week, including a regular late-afternoon kickoff, and will have the option to feature an SEC game on ABC's Saturday Night Football for the first time."

Sounds like every week at 3:30 pm PLUS the option to add a prime time game on top of that.

The noon games tend to be more regional, so I wouldn’t rule out some areas getting nothing but SEC games on a fall Saturday.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that ABC doesn't have regional/reverse mirror games any more (or at least hasn't been doing it for the past few seasons).

(04-21-2022 04:02 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(04-21-2022 03:19 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  

(04-21-2022 02:11 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(04-21-2022 12:18 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(04-21-2022 12:01 PM)schmolik Wrote:  What I thought when I heard the ESPN deal was the SEC was guaranteed the 3:30 slot on ABC each week and any prime time games would be bonus games, it wasn't 3:30pm and if they move it to prime time it becomes open. If the SEC just gets one game on ABC then that opens more room on ABC for the Big Ten. If the SEC will always get the 3:30pm slot and have plenty of chances for the prime time game, that's a lot of weeks they will get two ABC games in a week, leaving fewer opportunities for the Big Ten.

Here's a New York Times article from the time of the SEC/ESPN announcement:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/10/sport...-deal.html

It's a little muddled where it alludes to regular late afternoon games, but then both ESPN and Greg Sankey emphasized the complete flexibility to put any game in any time slot on any of the ABC/ESPN networks.

Here's an excerpt from the ESPN announcement:

"Beginning in 2024, ABC will air an SEC game every week, including a regular late-afternoon kickoff, and will have the option to feature an SEC game on ABC's Saturday Night Football for the first time."

Sounds like every week at 3:30 pm PLUS the option to add a prime time game on top of that.

The noon games tend to be more regional, so I wouldn’t rule out some areas getting nothing but SEC games on a fall Saturday.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that ABC doesn't have regional/reverse mirror games any more (or at least hasn't been doing it for the past few seasons).

Well I was just looking at the sports Media Watch ratings archive for the 2021 football season, and I didn't see any ABC / ESPN 2 games.

(04-21-2022 04:07 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(04-21-2022 04:02 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(04-21-2022 03:19 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  

(04-21-2022 02:11 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(04-21-2022 12:18 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  Here's a New York Times article from the time of the SEC/ESPN announcement:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/10/sport...-deal.html

It's a little muddled where it alludes to regular late afternoon games, but then both ESPN and Greg Sankey emphasized the complete flexibility to put any game in any time slot on any of the ABC/ESPN networks.

Here's an excerpt from the ESPN announcement:

"Beginning in 2024, ABC will air an SEC game every week, including a regular late-afternoon kickoff, and will have the option to feature an SEC game on ABC's Saturday Night Football for the first time."

Sounds like every week at 3:30 pm PLUS the option to add a prime time game on top of that.

The noon games tend to be more regional, so I wouldn’t rule out some areas getting nothing but SEC games on a fall Saturday.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that ABC doesn't have regional/reverse mirror games any more (or at least hasn't been doing it for the past few seasons).

Well I was just looking at the sports Media Watch ratings archive for the 2021 football season, and I didn't see any ABC / ESPN 2 games.

They quit doing that not too long ago.

Please forgive my blatant self promotion here, but we were able to get senior officials at Fox and the Big Ten to confirm to us that Fox quietly purchased an additional stake in BTN, bringing Fox's total ownership of the channel to about 61%. I have some info about the terms and rationale for the deal here:

https://www.extrapointsmb.com/btn-fox-sa...-scoop-tv/

Good work by Matt Brown.

(04-22-2022 07:52 AM)MattBrownEP Wrote:  Please forgive my blatant self promotion here, but we were able to get senior officials at Fox and the Big Ten to confirm to us that Fox quietly purchased an additional stake in BTN, bringing Fox's total ownership of the channel to about 61%. I have some info about the terms and rationale for the deal here:

https://www.extrapointsmb.com/btn-fox-sa...-scoop-tv/

IIRC, the BTN was originally founded as a 20-year joint venture between FOX and the B1G, it wasn't an "open ended" agreement.

If that is still the case, then that agreement is now 15 years old, so in the next five years, they will have to decide what to do about the BTN, whether to keep it going or terminate it. Maybe this purchase of 10% by FOX has something to do with that.

(04-21-2022 06:18 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-21-2022 04:07 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(04-21-2022 04:02 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(04-21-2022 03:19 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  

(04-21-2022 02:11 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Here's an excerpt from the ESPN announcement:

"Beginning in 2024, ABC will air an SEC game every week, including a regular late-afternoon kickoff, and will have the option to feature an SEC game on ABC's Saturday Night Football for the first time."

Sounds like every week at 3:30 pm PLUS the option to add a prime time game on top of that.

The noon games tend to be more regional, so I wouldn’t rule out some areas getting nothing but SEC games on a fall Saturday.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that ABC doesn't have regional/reverse mirror games any more (or at least hasn't been doing it for the past few seasons).

Well I was just looking at the sports Media Watch ratings archive for the 2021 football season, and I didn't see any ABC / ESPN 2 games.

They quit doing that not too long ago.

2019 saw one at the 3:30pm slot, and 2018 saw it across noon and the 3:30pm slot sparingly. Both years saw it occur toward the frontend of the season and not really during the heart of conference season.

(04-22-2022 08:19 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-22-2022 07:52 AM)MattBrownEP Wrote:  Please forgive my blatant self promotion here, but we were able to get senior officials at Fox and the Big Ten to confirm to us that Fox quietly purchased an additional stake in BTN, bringing Fox's total ownership of the channel to about 61%. I have some info about the terms and rationale for the deal here:

https://www.extrapointsmb.com/btn-fox-sa...-scoop-tv/

IIRC, the BTN was originally founded as a 20-year joint venture between FOX and the B1G, it wasn't an "open ended" agreement.

If that is still the case, then that agreement is now 15 years old, so in the next five years, they will have to decide what to do about the BTN, whether to keep it going or terminate it. Maybe this purchase of 10% by FOX has something to do with that.

The public part of Matt’s article says that the B1G executed a put, meaning Fox didn’t have a choice.

(04-22-2022 10:10 AM)OhioBoilermaker Wrote:  

(04-22-2022 08:19 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-22-2022 07:52 AM)MattBrownEP Wrote:  Please forgive my blatant self promotion here, but we were able to get senior officials at Fox and the Big Ten to confirm to us that Fox quietly purchased an additional stake in BTN, bringing Fox's total ownership of the channel to about 61%. I have some info about the terms and rationale for the deal here:

https://www.extrapointsmb.com/btn-fox-sa...-scoop-tv/

IIRC, the BTN was originally founded as a 20-year joint venture between FOX and the B1G, it wasn't an "open ended" agreement.

If that is still the case, then that agreement is now 15 years old, so in the next five years, they will have to decide what to do about the BTN, whether to keep it going or terminate it. Maybe this purchase of 10% by FOX has something to do with that.

The public part of Matt’s article says that the B1G executed a put, meaning Fox didn’t have a choice.

So does this mean the stock actually dropped for BTN? Sorry, trying to follow along and I'm a bit confused.

(04-22-2022 10:10 AM)OhioBoilermaker Wrote:  

(04-22-2022 08:19 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-22-2022 07:52 AM)MattBrownEP Wrote:  Please forgive my blatant self promotion here, but we were able to get senior officials at Fox and the Big Ten to confirm to us that Fox quietly purchased an additional stake in BTN, bringing Fox's total ownership of the channel to about 61%. I have some info about the terms and rationale for the deal here:

https://www.extrapointsmb.com/btn-fox-sa...-scoop-tv/

IIRC, the BTN was originally founded as a 20-year joint venture between FOX and the B1G, it wasn't an "open ended" agreement.

If that is still the case, then that agreement is now 15 years old, so in the next five years, they will have to decide what to do about the BTN, whether to keep it going or terminate it. Maybe this purchase of 10% by FOX has something to do with that.

The public part of Matt’s article says that the B1G executed a put, meaning Fox didn’t have a choice.

Now, that IS interesting.

(04-22-2022 10:10 AM)OhioBoilermaker Wrote:  

(04-22-2022 08:19 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-22-2022 07:52 AM)MattBrownEP Wrote:  Please forgive my blatant self promotion here, but we were able to get senior officials at Fox and the Big Ten to confirm to us that Fox quietly purchased an additional stake in BTN, bringing Fox's total ownership of the channel to about 61%. I have some info about the terms and rationale for the deal here:

https://www.extrapointsmb.com/btn-fox-sa...-scoop-tv/

IIRC, the BTN was originally founded as a 20-year joint venture between FOX and the B1G, it wasn't an "open ended" agreement.

If that is still the case, then that agreement is now 15 years old, so in the next five years, they will have to decide what to do about the BTN, whether to keep it going or terminate it. Maybe this purchase of 10% by FOX has something to do with that.

The public part of Matt’s article says that the B1G executed a put, meaning Fox didn’t have a choice.

Please explain the put and the reasoning of the big 10 to execute the put.