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Absolutely they belong in prison. Not sure that we'll ever see that unless a return to sanity occurs in America. They should put that up for a vote.
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RE: Groomers
(05-10-2023 07:46 PM)Kyle Mack Wrote:  
(05-10-2023 07:44 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  For those of you with young kids - before sending them off to school, drill this message into their heads and have them repeat it back to you.

If any adult at the school tells you to NOT tell your parents about something, it means that they KNOW what they are doing is WRONG. It means that you should tell your parents as soon as you get home.

Quote:Colorado mom sues school that recruited sixth-graders for secret after-school gender and sexuality club

A Colorado mother said her daughter was among a group of sixth-graders recruited to a deceptive after-school "art" club that turned out to be much more than it seemed.

"When she got there, she very quickly learned it was actually a gender and sexuality awareness club," Erin Lee told Fox News' Harris Faulkner on Tuesday.

"The art teacher had invited in an outside presenter into the classroom that day, and this woman did absolutely unthinkable things with the kids."

Lee explained that the guest presenter proceeded to use flags to describe "umbrella terms" and told the students they were transgender if they were not fully comfortable with their biological sex. The presenter also told students they could describe themselves as "queer" if they had not yet figured out their sexuality.

"She talked to them about polyamory. She told them that these new labels that they had just adopted made them more likely to commit suicide and talked to them extensively about suicide," she continued.

The presenter also allegedly discussed puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones, warning those in attendance that their parents may not be "safe" people to turn to as they struggle with certain identities.

"She [the speaker] runs an organization called ‘Skittles’ for kids five to eleven to discuss gender and sexuality," Lee said, noting that her daughter's art teacher pulled her aside and told her "you don't have to tell your parents."

Lee said other parents who came forward with complaints went as long as a year without knowing about the secret after-school club since their children abided by the rules and refused to tell anyone what happened during meetings.

Pam Bondi, the former Florida attorney general who is representing the families in the case against the school, said demanding "accountability" and "transparency" are essential.

"These are taxpayer-funded teachers who are doing this," she said. "And we want to send a nationwide message to these school systems, these parents and these school boards that parents govern their children, not these teachers, and we're going to give them the tools that they need, our parents, to protect them against indoctrination and all of these crazy things that they're doing."

Faulkner said the district did not respond to a request for comment on the lawsuit.

Lee first made the allegations last year against Wellington Middle School and Poudre School District, about 70 miles north of Denver. The Poudre School District confirmed the existence of the club and that conversations in it "may be confidential" but declined to address the specific allegations made by Lee "to protect the privacy of the student and their family."

Lawsuits against the teachers involved and the school district are the only way to stop this shiite.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/colorado-m...ality-club

These people belong in prison.

I was just in the recent Pedophile thread & thinking, 'eh, maybe not for 30 years', but after reading this article at this pace we'll be there much sooner than that
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(05-10-2023 08:39 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  
(05-10-2023 07:46 PM)Kyle Mack Wrote:  
(05-10-2023 07:44 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  For those of you with young kids - before sending them off to school, drill this message into their heads and have them repeat it back to you.

If any adult at the school tells you to NOT tell your parents about something, it means that they KNOW what they are doing is WRONG. It means that you should tell your parents as soon as you get home.

Quote:Colorado mom sues school that recruited sixth-graders for secret after-school gender and sexuality club

A Colorado mother said her daughter was among a group of sixth-graders recruited to a deceptive after-school "art" club that turned out to be much more than it seemed.

"When she got there, she very quickly learned it was actually a gender and sexuality awareness club," Erin Lee told Fox News' Harris Faulkner on Tuesday.

"The art teacher had invited in an outside presenter into the classroom that day, and this woman did absolutely unthinkable things with the kids."

Lee explained that the guest presenter proceeded to use flags to describe "umbrella terms" and told the students they were transgender if they were not fully comfortable with their biological sex. The presenter also told students they could describe themselves as "queer" if they had not yet figured out their sexuality.

"She talked to them about polyamory. She told them that these new labels that they had just adopted made them more likely to commit suicide and talked to them extensively about suicide," she continued.

The presenter also allegedly discussed puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones, warning those in attendance that their parents may not be "safe" people to turn to as they struggle with certain identities.

"She [the speaker] runs an organization called ‘Skittles’ for kids five to eleven to discuss gender and sexuality," Lee said, noting that her daughter's art teacher pulled her aside and told her "you don't have to tell your parents."

Lee said other parents who came forward with complaints went as long as a year without knowing about the secret after-school club since their children abided by the rules and refused to tell anyone what happened during meetings.

Pam Bondi, the former Florida attorney general who is representing the families in the case against the school, said demanding "accountability" and "transparency" are essential.

"These are taxpayer-funded teachers who are doing this," she said. "And we want to send a nationwide message to these school systems, these parents and these school boards that parents govern their children, not these teachers, and we're going to give them the tools that they need, our parents, to protect them against indoctrination and all of these crazy things that they're doing."

Faulkner said the district did not respond to a request for comment on the lawsuit.

Lee first made the allegations last year against Wellington Middle School and Poudre School District, about 70 miles north of Denver. The Poudre School District confirmed the existence of the club and that conversations in it "may be confidential" but declined to address the specific allegations made by Lee "to protect the privacy of the student and their family."

Lawsuits against the teachers involved and the school district are the only way to stop this shiite.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/colorado-m...ality-club

These people belong in prison.

I was just in the recent Pedophile thread & thinking, 'eh, maybe not for 30 years', but after reading this article at this pace we'll be there much sooner than that

We are going to need to learn that marine chokehold
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(05-10-2023 07:46 PM)Kyle Mack Wrote:  
(05-10-2023 07:44 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  For those of you with young kids - before sending them off to school, drill this message into their heads and have them repeat it back to you.

If any adult at the school tells you to NOT tell your parents about something, it means that they KNOW what they are doing is WRONG. It means that you should tell your parents as soon as you get home.

Quote:Colorado mom sues school that recruited sixth-graders for secret after-school gender and sexuality club

A Colorado mother said her daughter was among a group of sixth-graders recruited to a deceptive after-school "art" club that turned out to be much more than it seemed.

"When she got there, she very quickly learned it was actually a gender and sexuality awareness club," Erin Lee told Fox News' Harris Faulkner on Tuesday.

"The art teacher had invited in an outside presenter into the classroom that day, and this woman did absolutely unthinkable things with the kids."

Lee explained that the guest presenter proceeded to use flags to describe "umbrella terms" and told the students they were transgender if they were not fully comfortable with their biological sex. The presenter also told students they could describe themselves as "queer" if they had not yet figured out their sexuality.

"She talked to them about polyamory. She told them that these new labels that they had just adopted made them more likely to commit suicide and talked to them extensively about suicide," she continued.

The presenter also allegedly discussed puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones, warning those in attendance that their parents may not be "safe" people to turn to as they struggle with certain identities.

"She [the speaker] runs an organization called ‘Skittles’ for kids five to eleven to discuss gender and sexuality," Lee said, noting that her daughter's art teacher pulled her aside and told her "you don't have to tell your parents."

Lee said other parents who came forward with complaints went as long as a year without knowing about the secret after-school club since their children abided by the rules and refused to tell anyone what happened during meetings.

Pam Bondi, the former Florida attorney general who is representing the families in the case against the school, said demanding "accountability" and "transparency" are essential.

"These are taxpayer-funded teachers who are doing this," she said. "And we want to send a nationwide message to these school systems, these parents and these school boards that parents govern their children, not these teachers, and we're going to give them the tools that they need, our parents, to protect them against indoctrination and all of these crazy things that they're doing."

Faulkner said the district did not respond to a request for comment on the lawsuit.

Lee first made the allegations last year against Wellington Middle School and Poudre School District, about 70 miles north of Denver. The Poudre School District confirmed the existence of the club and that conversations in it "may be confidential" but declined to address the specific allegations made by Lee "to protect the privacy of the student and their family."

Lawsuits against the teachers involved and the school district are the only way to stop this shiite.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/colorado-m...ality-club

These people belong in prison.

I'd like to see which of the radicals in this forum actually support this sewage.


As far as the family in the article, she's in Colorado. She can forget about sanity.
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(05-12-2023 02:41 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  Two die from suicide during taxpayer-funded NIH sex change study, 11 others have suicidal ideation– [b]GOP lawmakers demand answers
[/b]


Trans Transformer reveals pronouns to non-binary child in animated series

Mental illness.

Crazy people cut of their junk.

Duh

We live in a world of morons where the obvious is complicated
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(04-19-2023 08:52 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  Whoops, here is another one. Former GOP staffer wanted to watch a kid get killed.



Seems like republicans and pastors are a much bigger risk to kids than pride pons in the Lego store. If you guys actually cared about kids and not just your hatred of LGBTQ people.

How many times must it be stated that most righties would help you hang a child molester regardless off which party they align themselves with? It could be surmised that since you only want to post the occasional groomer story about republicans it seems as if you wish to squash any such stories about lefties. Are you that invested in your ideology that you can't call out ALL groomers?
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(04-19-2023 09:44 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(04-19-2023 09:40 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(04-19-2023 08:43 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  You guys started a thread about groomers, but you are missing out on so many Republican groomers.

I’m not a Republican, groomer. We can hang them too.

For real. The groomer thinks "the repubs do it too" means something profound


Lol

Simpleton.

News flash: Republicans poop too! Story at 10.
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(04-19-2023 09:48 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(04-19-2023 09:44 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(04-19-2023 09:40 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(04-19-2023 08:43 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  You guys started a thread about groomers, but you are missing out on so many Republican groomers.

I’m not a Republican, groomer. We can hang them too.

For real. The groomer thinks "the repubs do it too" means something profound


Lol

Simpleton.

It.just.boggles.my.mind how stupid these people are.

I stopped being amazed by it when the idiots elected Obama just so they could virtue signal their tolerance.
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More grooming...



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And more grooming...

Pervert teacher explaining to children how to perform sex acts to themselves and others. It also explains how to get with adults.



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(05-17-2023 04:12 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  More grooming...




I was just coming here to show that Target video with the dude mispronouncing lesbian. Funny as hell but chilling because it's real. I stopped shopping at Target long ago and this simply confirms that I made a good decision. I won't spend a dime at any business that I'm made aware caters to this sickness.
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Disney partners with Pride-based company to generate LGBTQ activist content to 'create systematic and meaningful change'


Quote:Disney has reportedly signed a branded content development agreement with LGBTQ+ owned and operated media company equalpride in an attempt to create "systematic and meaningful change."

The move comes as the entertainment giant ramps up its efforts to increase diversity, equity, and inclusion not only within the company, but in the content it produces and causes it supports as well.

"What we're trying to do is create systematic and meaningful change in the end," Disney advertising exec John Campbell said during a recent roundtable discussion with Adweek about the partnerships. "We can't do that if we're not consistent and intentional. None of us are here for the heritage months only. We all activate 365 days a year."

Campbell went on to explain that, "these collaborations are a natural extension of our ongoing commitment to reflect the diversity of our audience, the workforce, and the world in which we do business and are part of our multifaceted, long-term approach to intentionally and authentically reach our viewers."

Disney Advertising is responsible for advertising on the Walt Disney Company’s offerings, including ABC, ABC News, Disney+, Disney Channel, ESPN Networks, FX, Hulu, and more.

As part of the deal, equalpride will operate as the primary production partners for independently produced content, and launch short-form series that brands can "get involved with."

Equalpride has partnered with dozens of world-renowned brands including Universal, Hulu, Netflix, and Pfizer, to push LGBTQ-centric content.

During its partnership with Lexus, for example, equalpride produced a miniseries, Out, which "follows two families' stories of evolution from the traditional American family." The series detailed the life of a gay couple and their child, who explained that owning and driving a Lexus had allowed them to live authentically.

Along with equalpride, Disney also announced partnerships with Mecenas Media and Group Black, companies that highlight Hispanic and black voices, respectively.

"Increasingly what delivers the most impact, content-wise, is content that reflects every aspect of our society," Mecenas Media CEO Emiliano Saccone said. "It seems to me that honesty rules, and so I believe brands are increasingly more appreciative of that,” Saccone said during the roundtable discussion. “So for the content that we’ll be producing together with Disney, I think the underlying theme for me in my mind has to do with purpose."
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Groomers all.

American Library Association and Association of American Publishers Join Lawsuit Over Arkansas Ban on Libraries Providing Obscene Books to Minors

Quote:A federal lawsuit has been filed to fight for the right for libraries to provide sexually explicit books to Arkansas children.
The American Library Association, the Association of American Publishers, the American Booksellers Association, and the Authors Guild are among 17 plaintiffs suing over a ban on libraries offering children obscene books in the state.

Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders signed the ban into law on March 31, and it will go into effect on August 1 — just before the start of the new school year.

The bill, Senate Bill 81, adds library materials to the statute governing the possession and distribution of obscene material.

Previously, schools and public libraries were exempt from prosecution “for disseminating a writing, film, slide, drawing, or other visual reproduction that is claimed to be obscene.”

Under the new law, parents and other members of the community can challenge the appropriateness of a book that is being offered to minors in schools or public libraries. Additionally, employees of public or school libraries that knowingly provide obscene material to a minor can face a Class D felony.

The report lists the current plaintiffs as:
  • Central Arkansas Library System
  • Fayetteville Public Library
  • The Eureka Springs Carnegie Public Library
  • Garland County Library executive director Adam Webb
  • CALS executive director Nate Coulter
  • Arkansas Library Association
  • Advocates for All Arkansas Libraries
  • The Authors Guild
  • The American Booksellers’ Association
  • The Association of American Publishers
  • The Freedom to Read Foundation
  • The Comic Book Legal Defense Fund
  • WordsWorth Books (an independent bookstore in Little Rock)
  • Pearl’s Books (an independent bookstore in Fayetteville)
  • Hayden Kirby (a 17-year-old CALS patron and a student at Little Rock Central High
  • School
  • Jennie Kirby (Hayden’s mother)
  • Olivia Farrell (an adult CALS patron)
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(05-31-2023 02:41 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  Groomers all.

American Library Association and Association of American Publishers Join Lawsuit Over Arkansas Ban on Libraries Providing Obscene Books to Minors

Quote:A federal lawsuit has been filed to fight for the right for libraries to provide sexually explicit books to Arkansas children.
The American Library Association, the Association of American Publishers, the American Booksellers Association, and the Authors Guild are among 17 plaintiffs suing over a ban on libraries offering children obscene books in the state.

Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders signed the ban into law on March 31, and it will go into effect on August 1 — just before the start of the new school year.

The bill, Senate Bill 81, adds library materials to the statute governing the possession and distribution of obscene material.

Previously, schools and public libraries were exempt from prosecution “for disseminating a writing, film, slide, drawing, or other visual reproduction that is claimed to be obscene.”

Under the new law, parents and other members of the community can challenge the appropriateness of a book that is being offered to minors in schools or public libraries. Additionally, employees of public or school libraries that knowingly provide obscene material to a minor can face a Class D felony.

The report lists the current plaintiffs as:
  • Central Arkansas Library System
  • Fayetteville Public Library
  • The Eureka Springs Carnegie Public Library
  • Garland County Library executive director Adam Webb
  • CALS executive director Nate Coulter
  • Arkansas Library Association
  • Advocates for All Arkansas Libraries
  • The Authors Guild
  • The American Booksellers’ Association
  • The Association of American Publishers
  • The Freedom to Read Foundation
  • The Comic Book Legal Defense Fund
  • WordsWorth Books (an independent bookstore in Little Rock)
  • Pearl’s Books (an independent bookstore in Fayetteville)
  • Hayden Kirby (a 17-year-old CALS patron and a student at Little Rock Central High
  • School
  • Jennie Kirby (Hayden’s mother)
  • Olivia Farrell (an adult CALS patron)

So is the law clear on what classifies as "obscene"?
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(05-31-2023 03:18 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(05-31-2023 02:41 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  Groomers all.

American Library Association and Association of American Publishers Join Lawsuit Over Arkansas Ban on Libraries Providing Obscene Books to Minors

Quote:A federal lawsuit has been filed to fight for the right for libraries to provide sexually explicit books to Arkansas children.
The American Library Association, the Association of American Publishers, the American Booksellers Association, and the Authors Guild are among 17 plaintiffs suing over a ban on libraries offering children obscene books in the state.

Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders signed the ban into law on March 31, and it will go into effect on August 1 — just before the start of the new school year.

The bill, Senate Bill 81, adds library materials to the statute governing the possession and distribution of obscene material.

Previously, schools and public libraries were exempt from prosecution “for disseminating a writing, film, slide, drawing, or other visual reproduction that is claimed to be obscene.”

Under the new law, parents and other members of the community can challenge the appropriateness of a book that is being offered to minors in schools or public libraries. Additionally, employees of public or school libraries that knowingly provide obscene material to a minor can face a Class D felony.

The report lists the current plaintiffs as:
  • Central Arkansas Library System
  • Fayetteville Public Library
  • The Eureka Springs Carnegie Public Library
  • Garland County Library executive director Adam Webb
  • CALS executive director Nate Coulter
  • Arkansas Library Association
  • Advocates for All Arkansas Libraries
  • The Authors Guild
  • The American Booksellers’ Association
  • The Association of American Publishers
  • The Freedom to Read Foundation
  • The Comic Book Legal Defense Fund
  • WordsWorth Books (an independent bookstore in Little Rock)
  • Pearl’s Books (an independent bookstore in Fayetteville)
  • Hayden Kirby (a 17-year-old CALS patron and a student at Little Rock Central High
  • School
  • Jennie Kirby (Hayden’s mother)
  • Olivia Farrell (an adult CALS patron)

So is the law clear on what classifies as "obscene"?

https://www.arkleg.state.ar.us/Home/FTPD...ACT372.pdf
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(05-31-2023 03:35 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(05-31-2023 03:18 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(05-31-2023 02:41 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  Groomers all.

American Library Association and Association of American Publishers Join Lawsuit Over Arkansas Ban on Libraries Providing Obscene Books to Minors

Quote:A federal lawsuit has been filed to fight for the right for libraries to provide sexually explicit books to Arkansas children.
The American Library Association, the Association of American Publishers, the American Booksellers Association, and the Authors Guild are among 17 plaintiffs suing over a ban on libraries offering children obscene books in the state.

Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders signed the ban into law on March 31, and it will go into effect on August 1 — just before the start of the new school year.

The bill, Senate Bill 81, adds library materials to the statute governing the possession and distribution of obscene material.

Previously, schools and public libraries were exempt from prosecution “for disseminating a writing, film, slide, drawing, or other visual reproduction that is claimed to be obscene.”

Under the new law, parents and other members of the community can challenge the appropriateness of a book that is being offered to minors in schools or public libraries. Additionally, employees of public or school libraries that knowingly provide obscene material to a minor can face a Class D felony.

The report lists the current plaintiffs as:
  • Central Arkansas Library System
  • Fayetteville Public Library
  • The Eureka Springs Carnegie Public Library
  • Garland County Library executive director Adam Webb
  • CALS executive director Nate Coulter
  • Arkansas Library Association
  • Advocates for All Arkansas Libraries
  • The Authors Guild
  • The American Booksellers’ Association
  • The Association of American Publishers
  • The Freedom to Read Foundation
  • The Comic Book Legal Defense Fund
  • WordsWorth Books (an independent bookstore in Little Rock)
  • Pearl’s Books (an independent bookstore in Fayetteville)
  • Hayden Kirby (a 17-year-old CALS patron and a student at Little Rock Central High
  • School
  • Jennie Kirby (Hayden’s mother)
  • Olivia Farrell (an adult CALS patron)

So is the law clear on what classifies as "obscene"?

https://www.arkleg.state.ar.us/Home/FTPD...ACT372.pdf

So doing control F and searching obscene I see it is in the bill 11 times with no definition of what counts as obscene. 6 of those 11 times are on page 1 of the bill. Other 5 mentions

© No employee, director, or trustee of a bona fide school, museum,
14 or public library, acting within the scope of his or her regular employment,
15 is liable to prosecution for a violation of this subchapter for disseminating
16 a writing, film, slide, drawing, or other visual reproduction that is claimed
17 to be obscene.


A person that
22 knowingly sends or causes to be sent or brings or causes to be brought into
23 this state for sale or commercial distribution, or in this state prepares,
24 publishes, sells, exhibits, loans at a library, or commercially distributes,
25 or gives away or offers to give away or has in the person's possession with
26 intent the purpose to sell or commercially distribute or to exhibit or to
27 give away, any obscene printed or written matter or material other than
28 mailable matter, or any mailable matter known by the person to have been
29 judicially found to be obscene under this subchapter, or that knowingly
30 informs another of when, where, how, or from whom or by what means any of
31 these things can be purchased or obtained, upon conviction is guilty of a
32 Class D felony.

A person that
34 knowingly has in the person's possession any obscene printed or written
35 matter or material other than mailable matter, or any mailable matter known
36 by that person to have been judicially found to be obscene under this
1 subchapter, upon conviction is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor.

So ummmm my question still stands what's the definition of obscene here? I think it's obscene to see a video of a great big fat person eating a large meal, does that count as criminal obscenity?
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(05-31-2023 03:53 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(05-31-2023 03:35 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(05-31-2023 03:18 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(05-31-2023 02:41 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  Groomers all.

American Library Association and Association of American Publishers Join Lawsuit Over Arkansas Ban on Libraries Providing Obscene Books to Minors

Quote:A federal lawsuit has been filed to fight for the right for libraries to provide sexually explicit books to Arkansas children.
The American Library Association, the Association of American Publishers, the American Booksellers Association, and the Authors Guild are among 17 plaintiffs suing over a ban on libraries offering children obscene books in the state.

Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders signed the ban into law on March 31, and it will go into effect on August 1 — just before the start of the new school year.

The bill, Senate Bill 81, adds library materials to the statute governing the possession and distribution of obscene material.

Previously, schools and public libraries were exempt from prosecution “for disseminating a writing, film, slide, drawing, or other visual reproduction that is claimed to be obscene.”

Under the new law, parents and other members of the community can challenge the appropriateness of a book that is being offered to minors in schools or public libraries. Additionally, employees of public or school libraries that knowingly provide obscene material to a minor can face a Class D felony.

The report lists the current plaintiffs as:
  • Central Arkansas Library System
  • Fayetteville Public Library
  • The Eureka Springs Carnegie Public Library
  • Garland County Library executive director Adam Webb
  • CALS executive director Nate Coulter
  • Arkansas Library Association
  • Advocates for All Arkansas Libraries
  • The Authors Guild
  • The American Booksellers’ Association
  • The Association of American Publishers
  • The Freedom to Read Foundation
  • The Comic Book Legal Defense Fund
  • WordsWorth Books (an independent bookstore in Little Rock)
  • Pearl’s Books (an independent bookstore in Fayetteville)
  • Hayden Kirby (a 17-year-old CALS patron and a student at Little Rock Central High
  • School
  • Jennie Kirby (Hayden’s mother)
  • Olivia Farrell (an adult CALS patron)

So is the law clear on what classifies as "obscene"?

https://www.arkleg.state.ar.us/Home/FTPD...ACT372.pdf

So doing control F and searching obscene I see it is in the bill 11 times with no definition of what counts as obscene. 6 of those 11 times are on page 1 of the bill. Other 5 mentions

© No employee, director, or trustee of a bona fide school, museum,
14 or public library, acting within the scope of his or her regular employment,
15 is liable to prosecution for a violation of this subchapter for disseminating
16 a writing, film, slide, drawing, or other visual reproduction that is claimed
17 to be obscene.


A person that
22 knowingly sends or causes to be sent or brings or causes to be brought into
23 this state for sale or commercial distribution, or in this state prepares,
24 publishes, sells, exhibits, loans at a library, or commercially distributes,
25 or gives away or offers to give away or has in the person's possession with
26 intent the purpose to sell or commercially distribute or to exhibit or to
27 give away, any obscene printed or written matter or material other than
28 mailable matter, or any mailable matter known by the person to have been
29 judicially found to be obscene under this subchapter, or that knowingly
30 informs another of when, where, how, or from whom or by what means any of
31 these things can be purchased or obtained, upon conviction is guilty of a
32 Class D felony.

A person that
34 knowingly has in the person's possession any obscene printed or written
35 matter or material other than mailable matter, or any mailable matter known
36 by that person to have been judicially found to be obscene under this
1 subchapter, upon conviction is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor.

So ummmm my question still stands what's the definition of obscene here? I think it's obscene to see a video of a great big fat person eating a large meal, does that count as criminal obscenity?

So their challenge is because they want clarification of the term obscene?

Or do they want to do away with the law altogether and continue to allow questionable materials to be exposed to children?
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(05-31-2023 03:53 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  So ummmm my question still stands what's the definition of obscene here? I think it's obscene to see a video of a great big fat person eating a large meal, does that count as criminal obscenity?

Does the state already define obscene elsewhere and this law simply uses that definition?

Arkansas committee approves amended bill to hold libraries accountable for ‘obscene’ material

Quote: proposed Arkansas law that would open the door to criminal liability for the distribution of “obscene” content by school and public libraries passed a legislative panel and will go to the House floor after being amended.

Senate Bill 81 would add the loaning of library materials to the statute governing the possession and distribution of obscene material. Arkansas’ definition of obscenity is “that to the average person, applying contemporary community standards, the dominant theme of the material taken as a whole appeals to prurient interest,” with prurient meaning overtly sexual.

The bill would remove schools and public libraries from the part of Arkansas law that exempts them from prosecution “for disseminating a writing, film, slide, drawing, or other visual reproduction that is claimed to be obscene.”

Quote:The bill would allow anyone to “challenge the appropriateness” of school or public libraries’ offerings and have them reviewed by a committee of five to seven people selected by school principals or head librarians. The committee would vote on whether to remove the material after a public hearing, and a complainant may appeal the committee’s decision if the majority votes “No.”

Appeals at school libraries would go to the school board for a final decision, and appeals at public libraries would go to city councils, the county judge or the county quorum court.

Quote:The bill’s opponents have said it would be used to restrict access to certain subject matter — including sex education and LGBTQ issues — and prevent children of diverse backgrounds and identities from seeing themselves represented in books.
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(05-31-2023 04:08 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(05-31-2023 03:53 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  So ummmm my question still stands what's the definition of obscene here? I think it's obscene to see a video of a great big fat person eating a large meal, does that count as criminal obscenity?

Does the state already define obscene elsewhere and this law simply uses that definition?

Arkansas committee approves amended bill to hold libraries accountable for ‘obscene’ material

Quote: proposed Arkansas law that would open the door to criminal liability for the distribution of “obscene” content by school and public libraries passed a legislative panel and will go to the House floor after being amended.

Senate Bill 81 would add the loaning of library materials to the statute governing the possession and distribution of obscene material. Arkansas’ definition of obscenity is “that to the average person, applying contemporary community standards, the dominant theme of the material taken as a whole appeals to prurient interest,” with prurient meaning overtly sexual.

The bill would remove schools and public libraries from the part of Arkansas law that exempts them from prosecution “for disseminating a writing, film, slide, drawing, or other visual reproduction that is claimed to be obscene.”

Quote:The bill would allow anyone to “challenge the appropriateness” of school or public libraries’ offerings and have them reviewed by a committee of five to seven people selected by school principals or head librarians. The committee would vote on whether to remove the material after a public hearing, and a complainant may appeal the committee’s decision if the majority votes “No.”

Appeals at school libraries would go to the school board for a final decision, and appeals at public libraries would go to city councils, the county judge or the county quorum court.

Quote:The bill’s opponents have said it would be used to restrict access to certain subject matter — including sex education and LGBTQ issues — and prevent children of diverse backgrounds and identities from seeing themselves represented in books.

I appreciate that, was not trying to be an ahole I'm seriously wanting to see what falls under obscenity. That's still extremely vague. Who's the arbiter of what would fall under that standard? I would think it wouldn't be that difficult to codify things children shouldn't see.
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