I think they just went ahead and added big, with 6 teams, because they are SURE there will be more losses. I agree with the strategy, add 'em now, and let everyone get started on building up facilities, rivalries, etc. Now if we lose 2, no need to add more teams.

I like all 6. Would have preferred to see GSU in Atlanta added... but I get we don't need to piss off ESPN, who made the SBC off limits. Fine though, all 6 fit our model.

One of my worries is the UNCC stadium. Would really like to see that expanded sooner rather than later.

(04-03-2022 01:15 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  As I suspected, the true intent of the thread is polishing the image of the incoming CUSA schools and not a sober evaluation of impending dissolution.

I have news for the CUSA schools. None (save perhaps UAB) offer value anywhere close to the departing schools. For existing members, the cold reality is things are as bad as it appears.

You realize this, 'adding value', can be said about EVERY realignment scenario? You think that the B12 view UC/UCF/UH as an equal swap with UT/OSU? Or pick any other conference that loses their best to 'above', then adds from 'below'. The entering schools rise up... increased money and exposure helps, and you keep building.

(04-03-2022 01:15 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  As I suspected, the true intent of the thread is polishing the image of the incoming CUSA schools and not a sober evaluation of impending dissolution.

I have news for the CUSA schools. None (save perhaps UAB) offer value anywhere close to the departing schools. For existing members, the cold reality is things are as bad as it appears.

I clearly stated that all of the C-USA6 have issues, and the intent of this thread is to identify the perceived weakness of each program. This isn't a conspiracy.

I think it's a disaster for basketball in the short term and probably the medium and long term. I think it's a more manageable blow to football in the short/medium/long term. The vast expansion of the bottom of the league is going to make it hard to remain a multi-bid league. Now hopefully they can do conference schedules in such a way to limit the at-large caliber programs' exposure to not just ECU but the whole list of programs on par if not worse than ECU that got added.

Football wise; I think the new incoming Texas programs will fit in quite nicely and perhaps even improve much sooner than expected.

(04-03-2022 02:15 PM)Bull Wrote:  

(04-03-2022 01:15 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  As I suspected, the true intent of the thread is polishing the image of the incoming CUSA schools and not a sober evaluation of impending dissolution.

I have news for the CUSA schools. None (save perhaps UAB) offer value anywhere close to the departing schools. For existing members, the cold reality is things are as bad as it appears.

You realize this, 'adding value', can be said about EVERY realignment scenario? You think that the B12 view UC/UCF/UH as an equal swap with UT/OSU? Or pick any other conference that loses their best to 'above', then adds from 'below'. The entering schools rise up... increased money and exposure helps, and you keep building.

I do not share your heroic leap of faith about their potential. Presently, they offer very little and should act like it. None of this “successfully fend off SMU” type stuff.

(04-03-2022 03:57 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(04-03-2022 01:15 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  As I suspected, the true intent of the thread is polishing the image of the incoming CUSA schools and not a sober evaluation of impending dissolution.

I have news for the CUSA schools. None (save perhaps UAB) offer value anywhere close to the departing schools. For existing members, the cold reality is things are as bad as it appears.

I clearly stated that all of the C-USA6 have issues, and the intent of this thread is to identify the perceived weakness of each program. This isn't a conspiracy.

LOL, you state “This is a thread meant to gain insight from the current AAC fan bases, not so much the thoughts of C-USA6 fans” and then proceed to comment and then zing SMU. Your actions betray you. You are no humble supplicant seeking information.

Please go away until your school officially joins.

Future conference mates...Joe likes to start "Off-Season Topics" now because unt has no baseball program. He is also desparate for affirmation.

(04-03-2022 06:50 PM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  Future conference mates...Joe likes to start "Off-Season Topics" now because unt has no baseball program. He is also desparate for affirmation.

Ha! I need no affirmation. I was not one of those posters that camped out on this board begging for an invitation for my program. I have always been content with UNT earning their way.

But it is true, I do create off-season topics because UNT has no baseball program. By the way, you misspelled desperate.

(04-03-2022 08:35 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(04-03-2022 06:50 PM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  Future conference mates...Joe likes to start "Off-Season Topics" now because unt has no baseball program. He is also desparate for affirmation.

Ha! I need no affirmation. I was not one of those posters that camped out on this board begging for an invitation for my program. I have always been content with UNT earning their way.

But it is true, I do create off-season topics because UNT has no baseball program. By the way, you misspelled desperate.

Please take your infighting elsewhere. Thank you.

(04-03-2022 05:56 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(04-03-2022 03:57 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(04-03-2022 01:15 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  As I suspected, the true intent of the thread is polishing the image of the incoming CUSA schools and not a sober evaluation of impending dissolution.

I have news for the CUSA schools. None (save perhaps UAB) offer value anywhere close to the departing schools. For existing members, the cold reality is things are as bad as it appears.

I clearly stated that all of the C-USA6 have issues, and the intent of this thread is to identify the perceived weakness of each program. This isn't a conspiracy.

LOL, you state “This is a thread meant to gain insight from the current AAC fan bases, not so much the thoughts of C-USA6 fans” and then proceed to comment and then zing SMU. Your actions betray you. You are no humble supplicant seeking information.

Please go away until your school officially joins.

I'm enjoying the constructive comments by the current AAC fans, but you choose not to address the topic. You'd rather bash the new additions, which has no relevance to this thread.

UNT's coach was SMU's top choice to replace Jank, but he choose to stay at UNT. That's just a fact. If you view my stating "UNT successfully fended off SMU to keep our coach" as "zinging SMU", than you have thin skin.

Forgive me, but I'll be staying.

We need to dig up message board talk when the AAC arose from the ashes of the Big East, I'm sure the doom and gloom regarding the new teams coming into the league was on par with what we're getting now.

I think the AAC made out pretty well then, and that was with a conference with no track record of success. The new teams have a blueprint before them on how to achieve success in this conference and I'm sure they'll be encouraged to follow it.

The American Athletic Conference will be just fine.

(04-03-2022 09:07 PM)T for Temple U! Wrote:  We need to dig up message board talk when the AAC arose from the ashes of the Big East, I'm sure the doom and gloom regarding the new teams coming into the league was on par with what we're getting now.

I think the AAC made out pretty well then, and that was with a conference with no track record of success. The new teams have a blueprint before them on how to achieve success in this conference and I'm sure they'll be encouraged to follow it.

The American Athletic Conference will be just fine.

My jaw dropped when I saw on the ESPN scroll that Big East was adding *Memphis* and I was like whaaa?

A few other head scratchers in that round, too… but it did not take long for Aresco & Co to get with the program.

I guarantee you that none of the new adds got an invite without specific instructions and expectations about how to do things the AAC way.

(04-03-2022 08:51 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(04-03-2022 05:56 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(04-03-2022 03:57 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(04-03-2022 01:15 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  As I suspected, the true intent of the thread is polishing the image of the incoming CUSA schools and not a sober evaluation of impending dissolution.

I have news for the CUSA schools. None (save perhaps UAB) offer value anywhere close to the departing schools. For existing members, the cold reality is things are as bad as it appears.

I clearly stated that all of the C-USA6 have issues, and the intent of this thread is to identify the perceived weakness of each program. This isn't a conspiracy.

LOL, you state “This is a thread meant to gain insight from the current AAC fan bases, not so much the thoughts of C-USA6 fans” and then proceed to comment and then zing SMU. Your actions betray you. You are no humble supplicant seeking information.

Please go away until your school officially joins.

I'm enjoying the constructive comments by the current AAC fans, but you choose not to address the topic. You'd rather bash the new additions, which has no relevance to this thread.

UNT's coach was SMU's top choice to replace Jank, but he choose to stay at UNT. That's just a fact. If you view my stating "UNT successfully fended off SMU to keep our coach" as "zinging SMU", than you have thin skin.

Forgive me, but I'll be staying.

You are a guest. It is not your place to boast superiority over any AAC member in any aspect. It is not your place to lecture any existing AAC fan.

You fool no one with the “perceived weakness” canard.

Look, the plain truth is North Texas St adds nothing to the AAC. They should have never been invited. It was an unfathomable and bewildering lapse of judgement.

Please leave. Your presence brings only a reminder of the coming decline.

Just a reminder - before the AAC remainers start to get too high and mighty - that the shoe will be on the other foot soon, if it hasn't already happened - - it won't be long before the 6 incoming CUSA schools start "evaluating" the 8 FB and BB AAC remainers. Just sayin' that...

"...What's fit for the goose is fit for the gander..."

(04-04-2022 12:14 AM)Milwaukee Wrote:  Just a reminder - before the AAC remainers start to get too high and mighty - that the shoe will be on the other foot soon, if it hasn't already happened - - it won't be long before the 6 incoming CUSA schools start "evaluating" the 8 FB and BB AAC remainers. Just sayin' that...

"...What's fit for the goose is fit for the gander..."

Fine, but not until each school officially joins.

The fact is desperation drove the invitations and all signs point to diminution of the AAC’s hard won “tweener” status. The new schools (except perhaps UAB) do nothing to avert that fate. The new schools should recognize reality and cease pretending otherwise. An example is this thread purportedly searching for “perceived weakness” which implies the problems existing AAC members have are not real and falsely assumes the CSUA schools have some existing value now contributing to the “tweener” goal.

(04-04-2022 07:44 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(04-04-2022 12:14 AM)Milwaukee Wrote:  Just a reminder - before the AAC remainers start to get too high and mighty - that the shoe will be on the other foot soon, if it hasn't already happened - - it won't be long before the 6 incoming CUSA schools start "evaluating" the 8 FB and BB AAC remainers. Just sayin' that...

"...What's fit for the goose is fit for the gander..."

Fine, but not until each school officially joins.

The fact is desperation drove the invitations and all signs point to diminution of the AAC’s hard won “tweener” status. The new schools (except perhaps UAB) do nothing to avert that fate. The new schools should recognize reality and cease pretending otherwise. An example is this thread purportedly searching for “perceived weakness” which implies the problems existing AAC members have are not real and falsely assumes the CSUA schools have some existing value now contributing to the “tweener” goal.

I see no reason why Rice can't be elitist and condescending even before joining.

(04-04-2022 08:10 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  

(04-04-2022 07:44 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(04-04-2022 12:14 AM)Milwaukee Wrote:  Just a reminder - before the AAC remainers start to get too high and mighty - that the shoe will be on the other foot soon, if it hasn't already happened - - it won't be long before the 6 incoming CUSA schools start "evaluating" the 8 FB and BB AAC remainers. Just sayin' that...

"...What's fit for the goose is fit for the gander..."

Fine, but not until each school officially joins.

The fact is desperation drove the invitations and all signs point to diminution of the AAC’s hard won “tweener” status. The new schools (except perhaps UAB) do nothing to avert that fate. The new schools should recognize reality and cease pretending otherwise. An example is this thread purportedly searching for “perceived weakness” which implies the problems existing AAC members have are not real and falsely assumes the CSUA schools have some existing value now contributing to the “tweener” goal.

I see no reason why Rice can't be elitist and condescending even before joining.

A gentle reminder the AAC is an athletic organization.

(04-04-2022 08:10 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  I see no reason why Rice can't be elitist and condescending even before joining.

Never thought I'd say that I'd enjoy a Sunbelt football schedule more but here we are.