(03-30-2022 10:17 AM)msu35 Wrote:  Just so you guys know, the rest of the State doesn't consider Memphis to be a part of Tennessee. Understand that and everything else makes perfect sense. I know no one wants to talk about it here or even acknowledge the truth in what I'm going to state, but its mostly about racism.

Tennessee is a very, very white state after you leave West Tennessee. It is what it is. Talk to most any white Tennessean not from Memphis and they will not only tell you how dangerous the city is and that you're likely to be shot, there is also a strong chance they will refer to the city as Memfrica. Pathetic if you ask me, but that is what we're dealing with when it comes to the rest of the folks in Tennessee.

Are they wrong though?

Are you wrong.

(03-30-2022 02:38 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 10:17 AM)msu35 Wrote:  Just so you guys know, the rest of the State doesn't consider Memphis to be a part of Tennessee. Understand that and everything else makes perfect sense. I know no one wants to talk about it here or even acknowledge the truth in what I'm going to state, but its mostly about racism.

Tennessee is a very, very white state after you leave West Tennessee. It is what it is. Talk to most any white Tennessean not from Memphis and they will not only tell you how dangerous the city is and that you're likely to be shot, there is also a strong chance they will refer to the city as Memfrica. Pathetic if you ask me, but that is what we're dealing with when it comes to the rest of the folks in Tennessee.

Are they wrong though?

I wonder what Arlington, Gtown and C'ville Nextdoor posts are like.

(03-30-2022 02:45 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 02:38 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 10:17 AM)msu35 Wrote:  Just so you guys know, the rest of the State doesn't consider Memphis to be a part of Tennessee. Understand that and everything else makes perfect sense. I know no one wants to talk about it here or even acknowledge the truth in what I'm going to state, but its mostly about racism.

Tennessee is a very, very white state after you leave West Tennessee. It is what it is. Talk to most any white Tennessean not from Memphis and they will not only tell you how dangerous the city is and that you're likely to be shot, there is also a strong chance they will refer to the city as Memfrica. Pathetic if you ask me, but that is what we're dealing with when it comes to the rest of the folks in Tennessee.

Are they wrong though?

I wonder what Arlington, Gtown and C'ville Nextdoor posts are like.

Just like a bunch of fools to confuse socioeconomic factors with race. Speaks volumes.

(03-30-2022 02:48 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 02:45 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 02:38 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 10:17 AM)msu35 Wrote:  Just so you guys know, the rest of the State doesn't consider Memphis to be a part of Tennessee. Understand that and everything else makes perfect sense. I know no one wants to talk about it here or even acknowledge the truth in what I'm going to state, but its mostly about racism.

Tennessee is a very, very white state after you leave West Tennessee. It is what it is. Talk to most any white Tennessean not from Memphis and they will not only tell you how dangerous the city is and that you're likely to be shot, there is also a strong chance they will refer to the city as Memfrica. Pathetic if you ask me, but that is what we're dealing with when it comes to the rest of the folks in Tennessee.

Are they wrong though?

I wonder what Arlington, Gtown and C'ville Nextdoor posts are like.

Just like a bunch of fools to confuse socioeconomic factors with race. Speaks volumes.

I live in Midtown. Nextdoor is nothing but crime posts. Being shot = crime. I just wanted to see if the experience outside the city is the same there (on Nextdoor). Lots of affluent folks inside the city breh.

(03-30-2022 03:01 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 02:48 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 02:45 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 02:38 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 10:17 AM)msu35 Wrote:  Just so you guys know, the rest of the State doesn't consider Memphis to be a part of Tennessee. Understand that and everything else makes perfect sense. I know no one wants to talk about it here or even acknowledge the truth in what I'm going to state, but its mostly about racism.

Tennessee is a very, very white state after you leave West Tennessee. It is what it is. Talk to most any white Tennessean not from Memphis and they will not only tell you how dangerous the city is and that you're likely to be shot, there is also a strong chance they will refer to the city as Memfrica. Pathetic if you ask me, but that is what we're dealing with when it comes to the rest of the folks in Tennessee.

Are they wrong though?

I wonder what Arlington, Gtown and C'ville Nextdoor posts are like.

Just like a bunch of fools to confuse socioeconomic factors with race. Speaks volumes.

I live in Midtown. Nextdoor is nothing but crime posts. Being shot = crime. I just wanted to see if the experience outside the city is the same there (on Nextdoor). Lots of affluent folks inside the city breh.

Take a look at income statistics for the communites you mentioned versus Memphis. Just because Memphis has some wealth doesn't mean there isn't a HUGE income disparity between Memphis and the other communities you listed. Surely you can't be that simple minded, or are you trying to make a dishonest comparison?

(03-30-2022 03:05 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 03:01 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 02:48 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 02:45 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 02:38 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  Are they wrong though?

I wonder what Arlington, Gtown and C'ville Nextdoor posts are like.

Just like a bunch of fools to confuse socioeconomic factors with race. Speaks volumes.

I live in Midtown. Nextdoor is nothing but crime posts. Being shot = crime. I just wanted to see if the experience outside the city is the same there (on Nextdoor). Lots of affluent folks inside the city breh.

Take a look at income statistics for the communites you mentioned versus Memphis. Just because Memphis has some wealth doesn't mean there isn't a HUGE income disparity between Memphis and the other communities you listed. Surely you can't be that simple minded, or are you trying to make a dishonest comparison?

Settle down there Tami Sawyer.

(03-30-2022 03:37 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 03:05 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 03:01 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 02:48 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 02:45 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  I wonder what Arlington, Gtown and C'ville Nextdoor posts are like.

Just like a bunch of fools to confuse socioeconomic factors with race. Speaks volumes.

I live in Midtown. Nextdoor is nothing but crime posts. Being shot = crime. I just wanted to see if the experience outside the city is the same there (on Nextdoor). Lots of affluent folks inside the city breh.

Take a look at income statistics for the communites you mentioned versus Memphis. Just because Memphis has some wealth doesn't mean there isn't a HUGE income disparity between Memphis and the other communities you listed. Surely you can't be that simple minded, or are you trying to make a dishonest comparison?

Settle down there Tami Sawyer.

(03-30-2022 10:51 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 10:20 AM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 10:11 AM)UofMTigerTim Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 09:57 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  How old is their current stadium?

That is my thought. That stadium is not that old. Opened in 1999.

the stadium was built too quickly so Bud wouldn't have to endure another year playing at Vandy....it's an erector set. One of the worst and least pleasant places to watch a game in the entire league.

F**K em...Live with it.

23 years old is not old enough to replace a stadium...

If 23 years is the lifespan of a stadium we want another forum in 2027...With State money.


Hmmm...Maybe I need to get off my high horse...LOL

Pyramid build in 1991 and Forum built in 2004...But not really comparable situations. Forum was built for a new NBA team...Not just keep a team happy.

The Titans have a 30 year lease with the existing stadium. The stadium is ok. It is not that impressive for a NFL stadium. I am sure this move is all about keeping the Titans in Nashville. I do not know if the Titans are 'demanding' a new stadium or not.

(03-30-2022 09:18 AM)tigers18 Wrote:  Where was that state money when Memphis was trying to get an NFL team in the 90's??? I bet the state wouldn't even offer the U of M 10 million towards a new stadium. The song remains the same.

Nissan Stadium
Opened: August 27, 1999
Capacity: 69,143

The stadium will be 23 years old this year.

TN was run by Democrats back then and Memphis/Shelby County was more red back then. Or was it more blue back then when blue used to be the GOP color?

1976 Expansion Candidates
Memphis
Seattle
Tampa

Governor - Democrat
Senate - Democrat
House - Democrat

1995 Expansion Candidates
Baltimore
Charlotte
Jacksonville
Memphis
St. Louis

Governor - Republican
Senate - Democrat
House - Democrat


Just a guess.

Quote:The funding is expected to be contingent on a new stadium being built with a roof, which would make the new venue more viable to host a Super Bowl.

Last year, Nashville and Tennessee Titans officials planned $600 million in Nissan Stadium renovations before engineering reports revealed more than $1 billion in repairs and maintenance are needed to maintain a "first class" stadium.

The state also committed a portion of its future sales tax proceeds in the stadium redevelopment area to paying for construction.

Some comparisons...

Allegiant Stadium, Las Vegas, NV
Construction cost: $1.9 billion

AT&T Stadium, Arlington, TX
Construction cost: $1.3 billion

SoFi Stadium, Inglewood, CA
Construction cost: $5–6 billion (estimated)


TBH, a $500M stadium these days is kind of a dump.

**** that. Why on earth are we supposed to pay for a stadium in Nashville? Hell I don’t even think people in Nashville should be paying for it. But if Lee places that burden on state taxpayers I’ll damn sure not vote for him again.

(03-30-2022 03:55 PM)roachman48 Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 10:51 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 10:20 AM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 10:11 AM)UofMTigerTim Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 09:57 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  How old is their current stadium?

That is my thought. That stadium is not that old. Opened in 1999.

the stadium was built too quickly so Bud wouldn't have to endure another year playing at Vandy....it's an erector set. One of the worst and least pleasant places to watch a game in the entire league.

F**K em...Live with it.

23 years old is not old enough to replace a stadium...

If 23 years is the lifespan of a stadium we want another forum in 2027...With State money.


Hmmm...Maybe I need to get off my high horse...LOL

Pyramid build in 1991 and Forum built in 2004...But not really comparable situations. Forum was built for a new NBA team...Not just keep a team happy.

The Titans have a 30 year lease with the existing stadium. The stadium is ok. It is not that impressive for a NFL stadium. I am sure this move is all about keeping the Titans in Nashville. I do not know if the Titans are 'demanding' a new stadium or not.

When researching for the post I made above, I saw that when the Raiders moved to Vegas, Oakland still had debt payment from their 1995 stadium upgrades.

As Raiders Leave for Vegas, Oakland Still Owes Stadium Debt from 1995

Quote:The city of Oakland and California's Alameda County, meanwhile, remain saddled with an estimated $83 million in debt from a 1995 renovation of the Raiders' Coliseum stadium, according to the San Francisco Chronicle. The city made the expensive fixes to the stadium to lure the Raiders back from Los Angeles.

Corporate welfare to the extreme, all for an entertainment product.

(03-30-2022 11:05 AM)msu35 Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 11:02 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 10:51 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 10:20 AM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 10:11 AM)UofMTigerTim Wrote:  That is my thought. That stadium is not that old. Opened in 1999.

the stadium was built too quickly so Bud wouldn't have to endure another year playing at Vandy....it's an erector set. One of the worst and least pleasant places to watch a game in the entire league.

F**K em...Live with it.

23 years old is not old enough to replace a stadium...

If 23 years is the lifespan of a stadium we want another forum in 2027...With State money.


Hmmm...Maybe I need to get off my high horse...LOL

Pyramid build in 1991 and Forum built in 2004...But not really comparable situations. Forum was built for a new NBA team...Not just keep a team happy.

You must not know the history of the pyramid? It was not built for the Tigers and was supposed to be nba ready. The Tigers got 8mil from the state to build an on campus facility and the city strong armed the University out of that money. City and University got "slinked" on that deal.

Even concerts I've been to in the Pyramid sounded like crap. At least we ended up with a giant Bass Pro eyesore. Thanks Sid.

huh? building Red Neck Disney where TN, AR, and MS all meet is brilliant...way better than sitting there empty.

(03-30-2022 12:47 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 10:17 AM)msu35 Wrote:  Just so you guys know, the rest of the State doesn't consider Memphis to be a part of Tennessee. Understand that and everything else makes perfect sense. I know no one wants to talk about it here or even acknowledge the truth in what I'm going to state, but its mostly about racism.

Tennessee is a very, very white state after you leave West Tennessee. It is what it is. Talk to most any white Tennessean not from Memphis and they will not only tell you how dangerous the city is and that you're likely to be shot, there is also a strong chance they will refer to the city as Memfrica. Pathetic if you ask me, but that is what we're dealing with when it comes to the rest of the folks in Tennessee.

It’s true. Texas has become successful by promoting all of their great cities. Tennessee is a one city state. It’s sad but true.

I agree...TN is just so backwards. Memphis, Chattanooga, Knoxville, Gatlinburg...so many great destinations outside NashVegas.

I'd leave for Arkansas in a second (if not for my family being here). legalized weed, expanded medicaid via obamacare, increased the state MW, cheap land, and easy access to Memphis.

(03-30-2022 10:17 AM)msu35 Wrote:  Just so you guys know, the rest of the State doesn't consider Memphis to be a part of Tennessee. Understand that and everything else makes perfect sense. I know no one wants to talk about it here or even acknowledge the truth in what I'm going to state, but its mostly about racism.

Tennessee is a very, very white state after you leave West Tennessee. It is what it is. Talk to most any white Tennessean not from Memphis and they will not only tell you how dangerous the city is and that you're likely to be shot, there is also a strong chance they will refer to the city as Memfrica. Pathetic if you ask me, but that is what we're dealing with when it comes to the rest of the folks in Tennessee.

Memfrica isn't racist. Where do you think Memphis got it's name? The original Memphis is in Eygpt on the Nile river, just like this one is on the Mississippi river. Why do you think there's a big Pyramid Bass Pro shop as part of the sky line? So what's wrong with saying Memfrica? If it has to do with race, the comparison is to Egyptians, which is actually a complement. Not an insult.

(03-30-2022 07:39 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 11:05 AM)msu35 Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 11:02 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 10:51 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 10:20 AM)k2tigers Wrote:  the stadium was built too quickly so Bud wouldn't have to endure another year playing at Vandy....it's an erector set. One of the worst and least pleasant places to watch a game in the entire league.

F**K em...Live with it.

23 years old is not old enough to replace a stadium...

If 23 years is the lifespan of a stadium we want another forum in 2027...With State money.


Hmmm...Maybe I need to get off my high horse...LOL

Pyramid build in 1991 and Forum built in 2004...But not really comparable situations. Forum was built for a new NBA team...Not just keep a team happy.

You must not know the history of the pyramid? It was not built for the Tigers and was supposed to be nba ready. The Tigers got 8mil from the state to build an on campus facility and the city strong armed the University out of that money. City and University got "slinked" on that deal.

Even concerts I've been to in the Pyramid sounded like crap. At least we ended up with a giant Bass Pro eyesore. Thanks Sid.

huh? building Red Neck Disney where TN, AR, and MS all meet is brilliant...way better than sitting there empty.

Agree that its better than sitting vacant.

(03-30-2022 08:03 PM)scorpius Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 10:17 AM)msu35 Wrote:  Just so you guys know, the rest of the State doesn't consider Memphis to be a part of Tennessee. Understand that and everything else makes perfect sense. I know no one wants to talk about it here or even acknowledge the truth in what I'm going to state, but its mostly about racism.

Tennessee is a very, very white state after you leave West Tennessee. It is what it is. Talk to most any white Tennessean not from Memphis and they will not only tell you how dangerous the city is and that you're likely to be shot, there is also a strong chance they will refer to the city as Memfrica. Pathetic if you ask me, but that is what we're dealing with when it comes to the rest of the folks in Tennessee.

Memfrica isn't racist. Where do you think Memphis got it's name? The original Memphis is in Eygpt on the Nile river, just like this one is on the Mississippi river. Why do you think there's a big Pyramid Bass Pro shop as part of the sky line? So what's wrong with saying Memfrica? If it has to do with race, they are comparing them to Egyptians, which is actually a complement. Not an insult.

Congratulations, you wrote one of the dumbest things I've read today.

(03-30-2022 08:03 PM)scorpius Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 10:17 AM)msu35 Wrote:  Just so you guys know, the rest of the State doesn't consider Memphis to be a part of Tennessee. Understand that and everything else makes perfect sense. I know no one wants to talk about it here or even acknowledge the truth in what I'm going to state, but its mostly about racism.

Tennessee is a very, very white state after you leave West Tennessee. It is what it is. Talk to most any white Tennessean not from Memphis and they will not only tell you how dangerous the city is and that you're likely to be shot, there is also a strong chance they will refer to the city as Memfrica. Pathetic if you ask me, but that is what we're dealing with when it comes to the rest of the folks in Tennessee.

Memfrica isn't racist. Where do you think Memphis got it's name? The original Memphis is in Eygpt on the Nile river, just like this one is on the Mississippi river. Why do you think there's a big Pyramid Bass Pro shop as part of the sky line? So what's wrong with saying Memfrica? If it has to do with race, the comparison is to Egyptians, which is actually a complement. Not an insult.

It's certainly intended to be racist by most people dumb enough to use it, who largely have no idea that Memphis is already named for an African place.

(03-30-2022 08:03 PM)scorpius Wrote:  

(03-30-2022 10:17 AM)msu35 Wrote:  Just so you guys know, the rest of the State doesn't consider Memphis to be a part of Tennessee. Understand that and everything else makes perfect sense. I know no one wants to talk about it here or even acknowledge the truth in what I'm going to state, but its mostly about racism.

Tennessee is a very, very white state after you leave West Tennessee. It is what it is. Talk to most any white Tennessean not from Memphis and they will not only tell you how dangerous the city is and that you're likely to be shot, there is also a strong chance they will refer to the city as Memfrica. Pathetic if you ask me, but that is what we're dealing with when it comes to the rest of the folks in Tennessee.

Memfrica isn't racist. Where do you think Memphis got it's name? The original Memphis is in Eygpt on the Nile river, just like this one is on the Mississippi river. Why do you think there's a big Pyramid Bass Pro shop as part of the sky line? So what's wrong with saying Memfrica? If it has to do with race, the comparison is to Egyptians, which is actually a complement. Not an insult.

And you probably deny that you are a racist, because you know it is wrong to be a racist. The problem is not knowing what racism is allows you to ignorantly deny your own.