Is more teams deserve an opportunity to play for a national title than are permitted to in the 4 team college football NIT.

(03-21-2022 06:07 PM)Keeper Wrote:  Is more teams deserve an opportunity to play for a national title than are permitted to in the 4 team college football NIT.

8 is the number.

(03-21-2022 06:17 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(03-21-2022 06:07 PM)Keeper Wrote:  Is more teams deserve an opportunity to play for a national title than are permitted to in the 4 team college football NIT.

8 is the number.

at least 12 better yet 16.

Football and basketball two totally different animals.

Can you think of anyone else who would have competed against 'Bama and Georgia...

We saw what happened to the other two who got the opportunity.

(03-21-2022 06:19 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Football and basketball two totally different animals.

Can you think of anyone else who would have competed against 'Bama and Georgia...

We saw what happened to the other two who got the opportunity.

If basketball thought the same way football does. Kentucky, UCLA, Kansas, and Indiana would still be invited to New York every spring to choose a champion. You do remember when UCLA won 10 national titles in a row? One day football will wake up, unfortunately by then I will finally be dead.

(03-21-2022 06:32 PM)Keeper Wrote:  

(03-21-2022 06:19 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Football and basketball two totally different animals.

Can you think of anyone else who would have competed against 'Bama and Georgia...

We saw what happened to the other two who got the opportunity.

If basketball thought the same way football does. Kentucky, UCLA, Kansas, and Indiana would still be invited to New York every spring to choose a champion. You do remember when UCLA won 10 national titles in a row? One day football will wake up, unfortunately by then I will finally be dead.

Not nearly as many upsets in football...Especially at the end of the year.

Just don't happen as often. Adding another round is just going to get another couple of schools pounded.

Go to six with 2 byes I guess.

(03-21-2022 06:19 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Football and basketball two totally different animals.

Can you think of anyone else who would have competed against 'Bama and Georgia...

We saw what happened to the other two who got the opportunity.

Texas A&M

Those two were likely the best two teams last season but even so a broader tournament would be so much more fun and sometimes there would be upsets

Hell, Auburn took Alabama to overtime
And Alabama beat the tar out of Georgia

I get that football is different but nonetheless would like the championship tournament to be more National.

(03-21-2022 06:19 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Football and basketball two totally different animals.

Can you think of anyone else who would have competed against 'Bama and Georgia...

We saw what happened to the other two who got the opportunity.

Men's basketball, maybe. Women's basketball is more like football in that the top teams rarely change. Even with a 64-team tournament, the same 3-4 teams always win the title.

(03-21-2022 06:07 PM)Keeper Wrote:  Is more teams deserve an opportunity to play for a national title than are permitted to in the 4 team college football NIT.

It proved to me that a lot of those P5 school teams are overrated and there is more parity in college basketball then the networks will admit.

(03-21-2022 06:17 PM)Keeper Wrote:  

(03-21-2022 06:17 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(03-21-2022 06:07 PM)Keeper Wrote:  Is more teams deserve an opportunity to play for a national title than are permitted to in the 4 team college football NIT.

8 is the number.

at least 12 better yet 16.

Do it like basketball. Get them to play Thursday/Saturday or Friday/Sunday or extend the season to 11 1/2 months and 22 games. Makes sure 6-6 teams make it and at least 1/4 of the teams aren't in the top 50 in the computer rankings.

Great idea.

Basketball needs the big tourney to stay relevant. Without March Madness no one cares about college BB. College football has no such problem so there is no incentive to change.

(03-21-2022 06:50 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(03-21-2022 06:32 PM)Keeper Wrote:  

(03-21-2022 06:19 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Football and basketball two totally different animals.

Can you think of anyone else who would have competed against 'Bama and Georgia...

We saw what happened to the other two who got the opportunity.

If basketball thought the same way football does. Kentucky, UCLA, Kansas, and Indiana would still be invited to New York every spring to choose a champion. You do remember when UCLA won 10 national titles in a row? One day football will wake up, unfortunately by then I will finally be dead.

Not nearly as many upsets in football...Especially at the end of the year.

Just don't happen as often. Adding another round is just going to get another couple of schools pounded.

Go to six with 2 byes I guess.

If you want more parity then have give more schools the opportunity. You have to share the wealth. You have to give games meaning. Right now it’s four teams with meaning and a watered down bowl picture for everyone else. Eventually there will be a coaching change, an off year, a scandal, a surprise, an injury, an upstart, or a team that just seems to perform the miracle that will break the hold by a small group of schools.
Expanding the pool provides resources and hope to create opportunities. It provides more reasons for talent to choose other school.

I hate the idea of bye games. All that does is give the top teams an extra week of rest and healing while the play-in teams beat up on each other. Let it play out on the field one-on-one gladiator style. It may take a while but eventually the script will flip. Level the field and provide meaningful opportunities and you will love the results…. Unless you cheer for the elites.

(03-22-2022 06:02 AM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  

(03-21-2022 06:50 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(03-21-2022 06:32 PM)Keeper Wrote:  

(03-21-2022 06:19 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Football and basketball two totally different animals.

Can you think of anyone else who would have competed against 'Bama and Georgia...

We saw what happened to the other two who got the opportunity.

If basketball thought the same way football does. Kentucky, UCLA, Kansas, and Indiana would still be invited to New York every spring to choose a champion. You do remember when UCLA won 10 national titles in a row? One day football will wake up, unfortunately by then I will finally be dead.

Not nearly as many upsets in football...Especially at the end of the year.

Just don't happen as often. Adding another round is just going to get another couple of schools pounded.

Go to six with 2 byes I guess.

If you want more parity then have give more schools the opportunity. You have to share the wealth. You have to give games meaning. Right now it’s four teams with meaning and a watered down bowl picture for everyone else. Eventually there will be a coaching change, an off year, a scandal, a surprise, an injury, an upstart, or a team that just seems to perform the miracle that will break the hold by a small group of schools.
Expanding the pool provides resources and hope to create opportunities. It provides more reasons for talent to choose other school.

I hate the idea of bye games. All that does is give the top teams an extra week of rest and healing while the play-in teams beat up on each other. Let it play out on the field one-on-one gladiator style. It may take a while but eventually the script will flip. Level the field and provide meaningful opportunities and you will love the results…. Unless you cheer for the elites.

That's why 8 is the number. It is perfect.

every other football organization has a larger playoff

NFL
Division II
Division III
NAIA
Junior College
High Schools (Classes 1A - 7A, and private organizations)

every other organization has a playoff system

(03-21-2022 06:50 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(03-21-2022 06:32 PM)Keeper Wrote:  

(03-21-2022 06:19 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Football and basketball two totally different animals.

Can you think of anyone else who would have competed against 'Bama and Georgia...

We saw what happened to the other two who got the opportunity.

If basketball thought the same way football does. Kentucky, UCLA, Kansas, and Indiana would still be invited to New York every spring to choose a champion. You do remember when UCLA won 10 national titles in a row? One day football will wake up, unfortunately by then I will finally be dead.

Not nearly as many upsets in football...Especially at the end of the year.

Just don't happen as often. Adding another round is just going to get another couple of schools pounded.

Go to six with 2 byes I guess.

And you know this how? Because Alabama beats Oklahoma or Notre Dame?

Our FBS CFP invitational includes 4 teams. That is 3% of all FBS programs.

FCS football includes 24 teams in their playoffs. That is 19% of all teams. They play 11 games regular season with 1 off week. They take 2 weeks off after the regular season ends. Then they take 3 weeks off after the playoff semifinals during the bowl season, before playing the championship game in early January. The champ plays 15 games in the year.

Other levels of college football playoffs:
D2 football - 28 teams = 17%
D3 football - 32 teams = 13%
NAIA football - 24 teams = 25%

Other college playoffs:
NCAA basketball - 68 teams = 19%
NCAA baseball - 64 teams = 21%
NCAA hockey - 16 teams = 20%

And of course the pros is another level and they include > 40% of their teams in the playoffs.

FBS football is 3%!

Any FB playoff without every conference champ is incomplete

(03-22-2022 08:53 AM)Unionman76 Wrote:  every other football organization has a larger playoff

NFL
Division II
Division III
NAIA
Junior College
High Schools (Classes 1A - 7A, and private organizations)

every other organization has a playoff system

^^THIS^^

(03-22-2022 01:37 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Our FBS CFP invitational includes 4 teams. That is 3% of all FBS programs.

FCS football includes 24 teams in their playoffs. That is 19% of all teams. They play 11 games regular season with 1 off week. They take 2 weeks off after the regular season ends. Then they take 3 weeks off after the playoff semifinals during the bowl season, before playing the championship game in early January. The champ plays 15 games in the year.

Other levels of college football playoffs:
D2 football - 28 teams = 17%
D3 football - 32 teams = 13%
NAIA football - 24 teams = 25%

Other college playoffs:
NCAA basketball - 68 teams = 19%
NCAA baseball - 64 teams = 21%
NCAA hockey - 16 teams = 20%

And of course the pros is another level and they include > 40% of their teams in the playoffs.

FBS football is 3%!

a couple conferences do not want to share the money
the only explanation

(thanks tiger87 for the solid numbers)

(03-22-2022 01:37 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Our FBS CFP invitational includes 4 teams. That is 3% of all FBS programs.

FCS football includes 24 teams in their playoffs. That is 19% of all teams. They play 11 games regular season with 1 off week. They take 2 weeks off after the regular season ends. Then they take 3 weeks off after the playoff semifinals during the bowl season, before playing the championship game in early January. The champ plays 15 games in the year.

Other levels of college football playoffs:
D2 football - 28 teams = 17%
D3 football - 32 teams = 13%
NAIA football - 24 teams = 25%

Other college playoffs:
NCAA basketball - 68 teams = 19%
NCAA baseball - 64 teams = 21%
NCAA hockey - 16 teams = 20%

And of course the pros is another level and they include > 40% of their teams in the playoffs.

FBS football is 3%!

^^THIS^^