Toledo assistant coach Walter offut leaves to join Illinois state staff wonder who coach k is going to replace him with?

(03-23-2022 03:11 PM)Macfan123 Wrote:  Toledo assistant coach Walter offut leaves to join Illinois state staff wonder who coach k is going to replace him with?

RayJ Dennis

(03-23-2022 05:33 PM)Sleepy Wrote:  

(03-23-2022 03:11 PM)Macfan123 Wrote:  Toledo assistant coach Walter offut leaves to join Illinois state staff wonder who coach k is going to replace him with?

RayJ Dennis

Dennis is a sophomore. Jordan Lauf is next up.

Agree with Jordan L...TK said as much recently if I recall. Will miss Coach O.

(03-23-2022 08:02 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  

(03-23-2022 05:33 PM)Sleepy Wrote:  

(03-23-2022 03:11 PM)Macfan123 Wrote:  Toledo assistant coach Walter offut leaves to join Illinois state staff wonder who coach k is going to replace him with?

RayJ Dennis

Dennis is a sophomore. Jordan Lauf is next up.

Cam Healy enters the portal. A bit surprising as he came on down the stretch for them and won the sg position and had some big games. Also has a solid young pg there to keep getting him the ball. Had Moss running after him like a madman in the MAC tourney game w his off ball movement. Maybe Barbee has some portal hopes to upgrade or maybe Healy didnʻt enjoy his tie there much. CMU has some pieces but is losing 3 of their top 6, guys now w Henderson, Bassainthe and Healy

(03-23-2022 03:02 PM)RocketBBallFan Wrote:  

(03-23-2022 02:47 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  

(03-23-2022 01:23 PM)pono Wrote:  everything on this board about the transfers is speculation. at best it is predicated on past interviews with TK or tweets by players. None of us seem to know for sure why anyone left. In the usual UT post season 1 on 1 sit downs there are typically a couple guys told they don't have much future playing time likely in the program-they leave, we can call it run off or forced out or however we choose to frame it. Then, there are sometimes players who surprise the staff and choose to leave even though there was probably playing time opportunities for them in the program-adway, stuckey mosely, acunzo. As far as Mihai, he didn't immediately enter the portal. Maybe, it just took him a few days to think it over. Maybe, TK wanted him back but Mihai thought about his role and realized he was still the 8 or 9th guy and TK doesn't play the bnech much. We don't really know.

Overall, I still feel good. All our key players appear to be returning. The program culture and approach is sound and ethical. The staff is unusually consistent. We are coming off a second straight MAC title. We have at least 2 big guys-simmons and edu-in place to add size and interior defense. And we have 3 open spots for impact transfers or freshmen.

I have to disagree with you. Simmons (6-6) is not a big guy and regarding Edu, there is no way to know if he will ever play again, with the odds being against him. TK always thinks he can win with guards,and for some reason refuses to have a balanced roster. Here's a balanced roster: 2 centers, 2 power forwards (6-7+), 2 wing forwards (6-6+), 4 shooting guards and 3 point guards.

Six 20+ win seasons in the past nine years would suggest TK can win with guards.

(03-24-2022 12:02 PM)Somersetco Wrote:  

(03-23-2022 03:02 PM)RocketBBallFan Wrote:  

(03-23-2022 02:47 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  

(03-23-2022 01:23 PM)pono Wrote:  everything on this board about the transfers is speculation. at best it is predicated on past interviews with TK or tweets by players. None of us seem to know for sure why anyone left. In the usual UT post season 1 on 1 sit downs there are typically a couple guys told they don't have much future playing time likely in the program-they leave, we can call it run off or forced out or however we choose to frame it. Then, there are sometimes players who surprise the staff and choose to leave even though there was probably playing time opportunities for them in the program-adway, stuckey mosely, acunzo. As far as Mihai, he didn't immediately enter the portal. Maybe, it just took him a few days to think it over. Maybe, TK wanted him back but Mihai thought about his role and realized he was still the 8 or 9th guy and TK doesn't play the bnech much. We don't really k
Overall, I still feel good. All our key players appear to be returning. The program culture and approach is sound and ethical. The staff is unusually consistent. We are coming off a second straight MAC title. We have at least 2 big guys-simmons and edu-in place to add size and interior defense. And we have 3 open spots for impact transfers or freshmen.

I have to disagree with you. Simmons (6-6) is not a big guy and regarding Edu, there is no way to know if he will ever play again, with the odds being against him. TK always thinks he can win with guards,and for some reason refuses to have a balanced roster. Here's a balanced roster: 2 centers, 2 power forwards (6-7+), 2 wing forwards (6-6+), 4 shooting guards and 3 point guards.

Six 20+ win seasons in the past nine years would suggest TK can win with guards.

Yeah….that philosophy seems to only hold true for winning in the MAC. I think from reading a lot of reply’s on the board the consensus is that we want to compete at higher levels, but against Dayton I think K did admit we were badly out rebounded by their 6’10 center. Ironically we had the same problem with both Ball State and Akron….MAC schools.

(03-24-2022 12:09 PM)Somersetco Wrote:  

(03-24-2022 12:02 PM)Somersetco Wrote:  

(03-23-2022 03:02 PM)RocketBBallFan Wrote:  

(03-23-2022 02:47 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  

(03-23-2022 01:23 PM)pono Wrote:  everything on this board about the transfers is speculation. at best it is predicated on past interviews with TK or tweets by players. None of us seem to know for sure why anyone left. In the usual UT post season 1 on 1 sit downs there are typically a couple guys told they don't have much future playing time likely in the program-they leave, we can call it run off or forced out or however we choose to frame it. Then, there are sometimes players who surprise the staff and choose to leave even though there was probably playing time opportunities for them in the program-adway, stuckey mosely, acunzo. As far as Mihai, he didn't immediately enter the portal. Maybe, it just took him a few days to think it over. Maybe, TK wanted him back but Mihai thought about his role and realized he was still the 8 or 9th guy and TK doesn't play the bnech much. We don't really k
Overall, I still feel good. All our key players appear to be returning. The program culture and approach is sound and ethical. The staff is unusually consistent. We are coming off a second straight MAC title. We have at least 2 big guys-simmons and edu-in place to add size and interior defense. And we have 3 open spots for impact transfers or freshmen.

I have to disagree with you. Simmons (6-6) is not a big guy and regarding Edu, there is no way to know if he will ever play again, with the odds being against him. TK always thinks he can win with guards,and for some reason refuses to have a balanced roster. Here's a balanced roster: 2 centers, 2 power forwards (6-7+), 2 wing forwards (6-6+), 4 shooting guards and 3 point guards.

Six 20+ win seasons in the past nine years would suggest TK can win with guards.

Yeah….that philosophy seems to only hold true for winning in the MAC. I think from reading a lot of reply’s on the board the consensus is that we want to compete at higher levels, but against Dayton I think K did admit we were badly out rebounded by their 6’10 center. Ironically we had the same problem with both Ball State and Akron….MAC schools.

Holmes was a Top 50 player coming out of HS. #10 PF
Don't see too many of those on UT opponents' rosters.

The obsession with height is silly, especially when paired with making up heights of our players. Dick Miller was 6'6" and held his own with any opposing center we faced, including Indiana's 6'11" Kent Benson.

(03-24-2022 01:20 PM)Lester Wrote:  The obsession with height is silly, especially when paired with making up heights of our players. Dick Miller was 6'6" and held his own with any opposing center we faced, including Indiana's 6'11" Kent Benson.

Exactly, size isn’t just height. Baylor won the title last year playing two 6.6 big guys , but they were 235 lbs and could move and muscle guys. I see simmons growing into that role at UT

Lester, but being shorter you can wear down during the game against a taller maybe more physical players. You still need size and that is why Shumate failed towards the end. I believe the media is reporting some 761 college players entered the portal this fall and surely Coach K can find a quality center or power forward, 6-8, 240, from this bunch. Another name just entered the porter from Dayton, who just played against the Rockets. His name is backup 6-9 center, Moulaye Sissoko who will have 3 years of eligibility left. I believe he scored 8 points against both the Rockets and Vandy in a reserve role.

(03-24-2022 12:09 PM)Somersetco Wrote:  

(03-24-2022 12:02 PM)Somersetco Wrote:  

(03-23-2022 03:02 PM)RocketBBallFan Wrote:  

(03-23-2022 02:47 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  

(03-23-2022 01:23 PM)pono Wrote:  everything on this board about the transfers is speculation. at best it is predicated on past interviews with TK or tweets by players. None of us seem to know for sure why anyone left. In the usual UT post season 1 on 1 sit downs there are typically a couple guys told they don't have much future playing time likely in the program-they leave, we can call it run off or forced out or however we choose to frame it. Then, there are sometimes players who surprise the staff and choose to leave even though there was probably playing time opportunities for them in the program-adway, stuckey mosely, acunzo. As far as Mihai, he didn't immediately enter the portal. Maybe, it just took him a few days to think it over. Maybe, TK wanted him back but Mihai thought about his role and realized he was still the 8 or 9th guy and TK doesn't play the bnech much. We don't really k
Overall, I still feel good. All our key players appear to be returning. The program culture and approach is sound and ethical. The staff is unusually consistent. We are coming off a second straight MAC title. We have at least 2 big guys-simmons and edu-in place to add size and interior defense. And we have 3 open spots for impact transfers or freshmen.

I have to disagree with you. Simmons (6-6) is not a big guy and regarding Edu, there is no way to know if he will ever play again, with the odds being against him. TK always thinks he can win with guards,and for some reason refuses to have a balanced roster. Here's a balanced roster: 2 centers, 2 power forwards (6-7+), 2 wing forwards (6-6+), 4 shooting guards and 3 point guards.

Six 20+ win seasons in the past nine years would suggest TK can win with guards.

Yeah….that philosophy seems to only hold true for winning in the MAC. I think from reading a lot of reply’s on the board the consensus is that we want to compete at higher levels, but against Dayton I think K did admit we were badly out rebounded by their 6’10 center. Ironically we had the same problem with both Ball State and Akron….MAC schools.

There are those that are going to beg all reasons that's anecdotal or special case, ignoring all the other times it was a problem. RBs are small subset of the problem of not having all the players on the board. It's the ability to open up the center for the other shooters, to seal the drives and narrow passing lanes with longer arms, while keeping feet set.... RBs are only a few points for. It's the other advantages that the longer bodies really give in addition to the role play they provide in practice.

(03-24-2022 02:22 PM)pono Wrote:  

(03-24-2022 01:20 PM)Lester Wrote:  The obsession with height is silly, especially when paired with making up heights of our players. Dick Miller was 6'6" and held his own with any opposing center we faced, including Indiana's 6'11" Kent Benson.

Exactly, size isn’t just height. Baylor won the title last year playing two 6.6 big guys , but they were 235 lbs and could move and muscle guys. I see simmons growing into that role at UT

Miller scored and RBed but it ws Speicher guarded Benson, Seeman guarded ball.

Baylore had two 6'8", a 6'9, a 6'10" a7'0" and Scott Drew. They started the 6'10" against Gonzaga. They also had five playes in the top 100 of their class so regardless, any 6'6" they have is not going to be the same 6'6" Toledo is going to get.

We all agree, Baylor probably could win the MACC.

I don't know what they are going to do, but they sure need some inside game.

(03-24-2022 04:06 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  

(03-24-2022 02:22 PM)pono Wrote:  

(03-24-2022 01:20 PM)Lester Wrote:  The obsession with height is silly, especially when paired with making up heights of our players. Dick Miller was 6'6" and held his own with any opposing center we faced, including Indiana's 6'11" Kent Benson.

Exactly, size isn’t just height. Baylor won the title last year playing two 6.6 big guys , but they were 235 lbs and could move and muscle guys. I see simmons growing into that role at UT

Miller scored and RBed but it ws Speicher guarded Benson, Seeman guarded ball.

Baylore had two 6'8", a 6'9, a 6'10" a7'0" and Scott Drew. They started the 6'10" against Gonzaga. They also had five playes in the top 100 of their class so regardless, any 6'6" they have is not going to be the same 6'6" Toledo is going to get.

We all agree, Baylor probably could win the MACC.

This is spot on about the IU win. All week long the mantra was for Dave Speicher to make Benson catch the ball off of the low block and try to pressure Wisman to have to work with his back to the basket (Jeff Seamann and Stan Joplin). From early on everyone involved said if we do those 2 things we win. Guess Coach Nichols and McDonald were right on with their plan.

TK eliminates an entire part of the game offensively (consistently points in the paint) and we have no answer when we face a team with a strong inside game.

(03-24-2022 09:45 PM)rocket 51 Wrote:  

(03-24-2022 04:06 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  

(03-24-2022 02:22 PM)pono Wrote:  

(03-24-2022 01:20 PM)Lester Wrote:  The obsession with height is silly, especially when paired with making up heights of our players. Dick Miller was 6'6" and held his own with any opposing center we faced, including Indiana's 6'11" Kent Benson.

Exactly, size isn’t just height. Baylor won the title last year playing two 6.6 big guys , but they were 235 lbs and could move and muscle guys. I see simmons growing into that role at UT

Miller scored and RBed but it ws Speicher guarded Benson, Seeman guarded ball.

Baylore had two 6'8", a 6'9, a 6'10" a7'0" and Scott Drew. They started the 6'10" against Gonzaga. They also had five playes in the top 100 of their class so regardless, any 6'6" they have is not going to be the same 6'6" Toledo is going to get.

We all agree, Baylor probably could win the MACC.

This is spot on about the IU win. All week long the mantra was for Dave Speicher to make Benson catch the ball off of the low block and try to pressure Wisman to have to work with his back to the basket (Jeff Seamann and Stan Joplin). From early on everyone involved said if we do those 2 things we win. Guess Coach Nichols and McDonald were right on with their plan.

TK eliminates an entire part of the game offensively (consistently points in the paint) and we have no answer when we face a team with a strong inside game.

Unless Stephen Curry is a Toledo Rocket and making 3's.

(03-25-2022 05:52 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(03-24-2022 09:45 PM)rocket 51 Wrote:  

(03-24-2022 04:06 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  

(03-24-2022 02:22 PM)pono Wrote:  

(03-24-2022 01:20 PM)Lester Wrote:  The obsession with height is silly, especially when paired with making up heights of our players. Dick Miller was 6'6" and held his own with any opposing center we faced, including Indiana's 6'11" Kent Benson.

Exactly, size isn’t just height. Baylor won the title last year playing two 6.6 big guys , but they were 235 lbs and could move and muscle guys. I see simmons growing into that role at UT

Miller scored and RBed but it ws Speicher guarded Benson, Seeman guarded ball.

Baylore had two 6'8", a 6'9, a 6'10" a7'0" and Scott Drew. They started the 6'10" against Gonzaga. They also had five playes in the top 100 of their class so regardless, any 6'6" they have is not going to be the same 6'6" Toledo is going to get.

We all agree, Baylor probably could win the MACC.

This is spot on about the IU win. All week long the mantra was for Dave Speicher to make Benson catch the ball off of the low block and try to pressure Wisman to have to work with his back to the basket (Jeff Seamann and Stan Joplin). From early on everyone involved said if we do those 2 things we win. Guess Coach Nichols and McDonald were right on with their plan.

TK eliminates an entire part of the game offensively (consistently points in the paint) and we have no answer when we face a team with a strong inside game.

Unless Stephen Curry is a Toledo Rocket and making 3's.

We had our 50% 3 guy posting up. Not too many 50% three guys and we had him sitting in the paint. On D, maybe OK.

On O, Moss could have put just as much or more body on the bigs to open driving lanes for Rollins, Dennis and Saunders. With experience so could Jakobi, Wilson and Burge. They're quick enough and enough bulk to give a well-timed split second. That's still too much reliance on the outside shot. Need bigs. Fat ones or skinny ones, need them to build a team that doesn't rely on being the anecdotes and to practice against.