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(03-17-2022 09:48 PM)mempho_to_diego Wrote:  Damn, 4 bids!! I didn't even know. Good riddance MWC. OVERRRRRATTEEDDDDDDDD!

maybe, but i'd rather have 4 from the MWC than 8 from the big 10 or 8 from the SEC
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(03-18-2022 06:25 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(03-17-2022 09:48 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
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(03-17-2022 09:17 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(03-17-2022 09:16 PM)Tigerspartan Wrote:  Mountain west is garbage. 4 bid league what a joke

SMU would have killed all of them.

Yes they stomped Nichols st lmao. 03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

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RE: The MWC Is OUT
(03-18-2022 07:46 AM)Oman Wrote:  
(03-17-2022 09:48 PM)mempho_to_diego Wrote:  Damn, 4 bids!! I didn't even know. Good riddance MWC. OVERRRRRATTEEDDDDDDDD!

maybe, but i'd rather have 4 from the MWC than 8 from the big 10 or 8 from the SEC

Big 10 got 9 bids
03-18-2022 08:06 AM
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I was looking at Kenpom, RPI and NET on Wednesday, all had the MWC teams ranked really high. Then I watched BSU and SDSU championship game. They looked bad. Don't know what early games got them the ridiculously high rankings conference wide, but the formula is wrong. They should take a look at what that was and correct it.
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(03-18-2022 08:06 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(03-18-2022 07:46 AM)Oman Wrote:  
(03-17-2022 09:48 PM)mempho_to_diego Wrote:  Damn, 4 bids!! I didn't even know. Good riddance MWC. OVERRRRRATTEEDDDDDDDD!

maybe, but i'd rather have 4 from the MWC than 8 from the big 10 or 8 from the SEC

Big 10 got 9 bids

They should add a rule that if you are under 0.500 in your league, NO BID.
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(03-17-2022 09:48 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(03-17-2022 09:22 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  
(03-17-2022 09:17 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(03-17-2022 09:16 PM)Tigerspartan Wrote:  Mountain west is garbage. 4 bid league what a joke

SMU would have killed all of them.

Yes they stomped Nichols st lmao. 03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

What a dope. They kicked our ass twice!!!!!!!!!!! Thumper.
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(03-18-2022 08:38 AM)Bill83 Wrote:  
(03-18-2022 08:06 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(03-18-2022 07:46 AM)Oman Wrote:  
(03-17-2022 09:48 PM)mempho_to_diego Wrote:  Damn, 4 bids!! I didn't even know. Good riddance MWC. OVERRRRRATTEEDDDDDDDD!

maybe, but i'd rather have 4 from the MWC than 8 from the big 10 or 8 from the SEC

Big 10 got 9 bids

They should add a rule that if you are under 0.500 in your league, NO BID.

That used to be a rule. (or an unofficial rule) I'm not sure when they got rid of it.
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(03-18-2022 08:14 AM)cmt Wrote:  I was looking at Kenpom, RPI and NET on Wednesday, all had the MWC teams ranked really high. Then I watched BSU and SDSU championship game. They looked bad. Don't know what early games got them the ridiculously high rankings conference wide, but the formula is wrong. They should take a look at what that was and correct it.

They look better than they are for the same reason the PAC did for years. They are compartmentalized to the western side of the country, where there are fewer good to great teams. They end up playing much of the non-conf on that side of the country. The few teams they played on this side (Arkansas Pine Bluff was played by two of the 4 MWC tournament teams) were horrendously bad. Those 4 MWC tournament teams may have played a combined 4 teams from the eastern side of the country that had a NET below 100, and I believe they lost everyone one of them.

Its almost as if you took 12 NBA teams, put them in a conference, and 12 high school teams, and put them in a conference. Only two of the high school teams crossed over and played teams in the NBA conference. At the end of the season, there will be some high school teams who have excellent numbers when compare to the NBA teams, but its smoke and mirrors.

The one way to separate these teams out is to add a metric to the NET/RPI that bonuses out non-conf wins against higher NET teams, especially neutral/road games. That would have moved Wyoming, Boise, and Colorado St (who all had non-conf sos's in the 130's to 150's) out. And they would have been left with San Diego St (who had a really good non-conf sos). Boise won the conference, so that would have made them a 2 bid league or a 1 bid league had San Diego St won the conference. And that would have matched reality.

But, in short, they have to do something with these western conferences who look better on paper than they are because they play few to no eastern team crossover games against quality eastern team opponents.
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(03-18-2022 08:14 AM)cmt Wrote:  I was looking at Kenpom, RPI and NET on Wednesday, all had the MWC teams ranked really high. Then I watched BSU and SDSU championship game. They looked bad. Don't know what early games got them the ridiculously high rankings conference wide, but the formula is wrong. They should take a look at what that was and correct it.

It's no different from the RPI. You beat the system by playing teams in the 150-200 range OOC. You will beat them the same as you would teams in the 200-300 range.

The MWC teams all except SDSU had Q3/4 losses, but they didn't play a lot of those games. CSU played 12, SDSU 13, Boise 14 and Wyoming 15. SMU played 19 and had a loss in each quadrant.
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(03-17-2022 11:37 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(03-17-2022 09:54 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  
(03-17-2022 09:48 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(03-17-2022 09:22 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  
(03-17-2022 09:17 PM)Stammers Wrote:  SMU would have killed all of them.

Yes they stomped Nichols st lmao. 03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

What a dope. They kicked our ass twice!!!!!!!!!!! Thumper.
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SMU barely beat Nichols st in the NIT.....now go play in traffic little sissy boy.

No thanks....You're the traffic.

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(03-18-2022 08:38 AM)Bill83 Wrote:  
(03-18-2022 08:06 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(03-18-2022 07:46 AM)Oman Wrote:  
(03-17-2022 09:48 PM)mempho_to_diego Wrote:  Damn, 4 bids!! I didn't even know. Good riddance MWC. OVERRRRRATTEEDDDDDDDD!

maybe, but i'd rather have 4 from the MWC than 8 from the big 10 or 8 from the SEC

Big 10 got 9 bids

They should add a rule that if you are under 0.500 in your league, NO BID.

i'd like to see a cap of 5 per conference.. it's stupid to see teams like michigan and michgan state this year get in while SMU did not. not saying SMU is a world beater, but MAYBE they are pretty good, while these guys along with rutgers, iowa state and indiana established themselves as mediocre.
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(03-18-2022 11:39 AM)Oman Wrote:  
(03-18-2022 08:38 AM)Bill83 Wrote:  
(03-18-2022 08:06 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(03-18-2022 07:46 AM)Oman Wrote:  
(03-17-2022 09:48 PM)mempho_to_diego Wrote:  Damn, 4 bids!! I didn't even know. Good riddance MWC. OVERRRRRATTEEDDDDDDDD!

maybe, but i'd rather have 4 from the MWC than 8 from the big 10 or 8 from the SEC

Big 10 got 9 bids

They should add a rule that if you are under 0.500 in your league, NO BID.

i'd like to see a cap of 5 per conference.. it's stupid to see teams like michigan and michgan state this year get in while SMU did not. not saying SMU is a world beater, but MAYBE they are pretty good, while these guys along with rutgers, iowa state and indiana established themselves as mediocre.

They'd never go for a cap, however, I think the .500 threshold is a good start.
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Big Ten: 9

Big East, Big 12 and SEC: 6

ACC: 5—the fewest since league expanded to 15 teams back in 2014.

MWC: 4

West Coast Conference and the Pac-12: 3

American and Atlantic 10: 2
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(03-18-2022 11:51 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(03-18-2022 11:39 AM)Oman Wrote:  
(03-18-2022 08:38 AM)Bill83 Wrote:  
(03-18-2022 08:06 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(03-18-2022 07:46 AM)Oman Wrote:  maybe, but i'd rather have 4 from the MWC than 8 from the big 10 or 8 from the SEC

Big 10 got 9 bids

They should add a rule that if you are under 0.500 in your league, NO BID.

i'd like to see a cap of 5 per conference.. it's stupid to see teams like michigan and michgan state this year get in while SMU did not. not saying SMU is a world beater, but MAYBE they are pretty good, while these guys along with rutgers, iowa state and indiana established themselves as mediocre.

They'd never go for a cap, however, I think the .500 threshold is a good start.

Any team that doesn’t have a .500 conf record doesn’t deserve an at large bid
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(03-18-2022 07:46 AM)Oman Wrote:  
(03-17-2022 09:48 PM)mempho_to_diego Wrote:  Damn, 4 bids!! I didn't even know. Good riddance MWC. OVERRRRRATTEEDDDDDDDD!

maybe, but i'd rather have 4 from the MWC than 8 from the big 10 or 8 from the SEC

agree with the second part but not the first part. MWC doesn't deserve 4 teams but maybe we should spread it out to other mid-major conferences. SMU should have gotten in and should have taken a bid away from a conference that almost gets their entire conference in - yea, that is a travesty. B1G10 ball is boring as hell ... why continue to promote that dumb league.
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(03-18-2022 12:24 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(03-18-2022 11:51 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(03-18-2022 11:39 AM)Oman Wrote:  
(03-18-2022 08:38 AM)Bill83 Wrote:  
(03-18-2022 08:06 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  Big 10 got 9 bids

They should add a rule that if you are under 0.500 in your league, NO BID.

i'd like to see a cap of 5 per conference.. it's stupid to see teams like michigan and michgan state this year get in while SMU did not. not saying SMU is a world beater, but MAYBE they are pretty good, while these guys along with rutgers, iowa state and indiana established themselves as mediocre.

They'd never go for a cap, however, I think the .500 threshold is a good start.

Any team that doesn’t have a .500 conf record doesn’t deserve an at large bid

Agree. I have no idea why they abandoned that metric.
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(03-18-2022 12:52 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(03-18-2022 12:24 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(03-18-2022 11:51 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(03-18-2022 11:39 AM)Oman Wrote:  
(03-18-2022 08:38 AM)Bill83 Wrote:  They should add a rule that if you are under 0.500 in your league, NO BID.

i'd like to see a cap of 5 per conference.. it's stupid to see teams like michigan and michgan state this year get in while SMU did not. not saying SMU is a world beater, but MAYBE they are pretty good, while these guys along with rutgers, iowa state and indiana established themselves as mediocre.

They'd never go for a cap, however, I think the .500 threshold is a good start.

Any team that doesn’t have a .500 conf record doesn’t deserve an at large bid

Agree. I have no idea why they abandoned that metric.

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It's like the president said, it's not how many votes you get it's who counts the votes.
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(03-18-2022 07:51 AM)TIGERBUDDY Wrote:  
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(03-17-2022 09:48 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
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(03-17-2022 09:17 PM)Stammers Wrote:  SMU would have killed all of them.

Yes they stomped Nichols st lmao. 03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

What a dope. They kicked our ass twice!!!!!!!!!!! Thumper.
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The top of the AAC is always good. It should be a 3-bid league, minimum, in it's current state. Previous selection committees viewed it this way, but not lately.

Then you have Frank Martin on the studio show picking Boise to beat Memphis...There is so much wrong with that sentence, I don't know where to start.
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