(03-14-2022 12:53 AM)NeptunianEmp Wrote:  

(03-13-2022 09:54 PM)DZ1 Wrote:  

(03-13-2022 09:46 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  GCU is done as well.

Ever since GCU ended their transition period, it seems they turn down all CBI and other lower level tournament invites. Not sure what the rational is there. It seems like any post season tournament would provide some experience for the players and exposure for the school.

Damn that really does suck. These post season tournaments are when I actually root for GCU (against UNM and UTEP I am also a GCU fan). I think this would have been a good experience to prep the team for next season especially against quality/different teams. Get the players experience and make them thirsty to take down NMSU next season.

I see the thought of extra expense against a planned budget, but for the BC the higher seed gets a home game, so even if the first game is against a significantly lower quality opponent the cost shouldn't be that significant in my mind compared with the extra practices and experience for the players.

The thing I like about the CBI is that it is all at one site. I never did like how the NIT has home site games, then MSG. To me, it seems like it is just too much of an advantage for the higher seed, and post season should be a reward. They should all be neutral site games in my opinion.

GO AGGIES!!!

(03-14-2022 11:02 AM)NMSUIndyAg Wrote:  The thing I like about the CBI is that it is all at one site. I never did like how the NIT has home site games, then MSG. To me, it seems like it is just too much of an advantage for the higher seed, and post season should be a reward. They should all be neutral site games in my opinion.

GO AGGIES!!!

A lot of the NIT games are played in front of half full arenas. Alcorn State isn’t playing in front of 8,000 TAMU fans tomorrow. It’s spring break time and many students and regular fans aren’t going to bother with a game announced 2 days ago.

I like the format of the CBI and judging by their fast bracket reveal, teams like it too. Done in 4 or 5 days. Don’t have to worry about having a home game with 1,000 fans and losing money.

(03-13-2022 09:43 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(03-13-2022 09:35 PM)FirstandGoal Wrote:  Trying to find a listing for the TBC field, but nothing yet. I hate to think Seattle might get left out of the postseason completely.

I won’t. These tournaments need to the “buy-in” of the players and school. Maybe the players don’t want to play. Coaches are getting hired and fired every day. Players might be more interested in entering the portal and seeing what’s out there, than playing in a two bit tournament.

Between coaches coming and going and the transfer portal, you could see these participation trophy tournaments get reduced to one or none.

Forking over money for the possibility of additional wins is not appealing to me.

Depending on the trajectory of a team, I don’t automatically consider these tournaments bad. A major conference team who had a bad year probably shouldn’t go, but some mid major program with either a new coach or a mostly new roster who took a good part of the season to get the system working smoothly, absolutely.

And they are important for some programs who may have had their best year in ages and is trying to build a program. And teams like CBU and Bellermine who aren’t NCAA eligible yet.

I don’t know how many tournaments/entrants is the right number, but they are all some programs have to hope for.

No WAC teams in TBC

https://www.thebasketballclassic.com/sch...esults.php

Wow, Maryland Eastern Shore. Net ranking 300+. 11 wins. That has to be the lowest postseason bid ever.

(03-14-2022 04:25 PM)Todor Wrote:  Wow, Maryland Eastern Shore. Net ranking 300+. 11 wins. That has to be the lowest postseason bid ever.

Beggars can’t be choosers. Kent State, Southern Utah, Fresno, UTEP, or Wofford should win this.

According to what I saw, both Sam Houston and Utah Valley got invites but turned them down for the BC. I suppose if GCU and or Seattle made their plan to not play post-season except the NCAA known, then maybe that is why they didn't show up as invited. While I understand each school has its reasons, I think the conference should encourage them to play even to the point of helping offset the costs. The only way to showcase the conference is to defeat other conferences schools.

(03-14-2022 05:59 PM)FirstandGoal Wrote:  According to what I saw, both Sam Houston and Utah Valley got invites but turned them down for the BC. I suppose if GCU and or Seattle made their plan to not play post-season except the NCAA known, then maybe that is why they didn't show up as invited. While I understand each school has its reasons, I think the conference should encourage them to play even to the point of helping offset the costs. The only way to showcase the conference is to defeat other conferences schools.

It costs $50,000 dollars to be in the CBI. You can get it cut in half if you do one of their Fall Tournaments I believe. If the WAC were to cover the costs for this years teams, it would cost $75,000-150,000 dollars. The WAC isn't rolling in money. It would be better spent elsewhere.

(03-14-2022 07:04 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

(03-14-2022 05:59 PM)FirstandGoal Wrote:  According to what I saw, both Sam Houston and Utah Valley got invites but turned them down for the BC. I suppose if GCU and or Seattle made their plan to not play post-season except the NCAA known, then maybe that is why they didn't show up as invited. While I understand each school has its reasons, I think the conference should encourage them to play even to the point of helping offset the costs. The only way to showcase the conference is to defeat other conferences schools.

It costs $50,000 dollars to be in the CBI. You can get it cut in half if you do one of their Fall Tournaments I believe. If the WAC were to cover the costs for this years teams, it would cost $75,000-150,000 dollars. The WAC isn't rolling in money. It would be better spent elsewhere.

Right. $100k is a lot of money for a small conference. The first 2 rounds are on FloSports anyway. You’re not getting a lot of people to watch since the games are on Saturday and Sunday, while the round of 32 NCAA games are going on. Besides hardcore fans of the school, who will be tuning in?

No basketball junkie is spending $15 to watch those games instead of watching the NCAA tournament

(03-14-2022 07:04 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

(03-14-2022 05:59 PM)FirstandGoal Wrote:  According to what I saw, both Sam Houston and Utah Valley got invites but turned them down for the BC. I suppose if GCU and or Seattle made their plan to not play post-season except the NCAA known, then maybe that is why they didn't show up as invited. While I understand each school has its reasons, I think the conference should encourage them to play even to the point of helping offset the costs. The only way to showcase the conference is to defeat other conferences schools.

It costs $50,000 dollars to be in the CBI. You can get it cut in half if you do one of their Fall Tournaments I believe. If the WAC were to cover the costs for this years teams, it would cost $75,000-150,000 dollars. The WAC isn't rolling in money. It would be better spent elsewhere.

Per what I've heard around SFA, the new fee might be 25k or participate in a fall tourney.

And some of those fall tourney's look pretty good.

(03-15-2022 09:57 AM)TallTexan Wrote:  Per what I've heard around SFA, the new fee might be 25k or participate in a fall tourney.

The costs:

Your travel and accommodations
Your entry fee of $25k OR participation in a Gazelle Group fall event

I am guessing they worked out a decent hotel deal based on the amount of rooms and decent-sized guaranteed room block; the fall tournament situation is not clear to me. Would you be forfeiting your guarantee or would you be getting a smaller guarantee? Either way, Gazelle Group does run some of the better tournaments.

(03-14-2022 07:04 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

(03-14-2022 05:59 PM)FirstandGoal Wrote:  According to what I saw, both Sam Houston and Utah Valley got invites but turned them down for the BC. I suppose if GCU and or Seattle made their plan to not play post-season except the NCAA known, then maybe that is why they didn't show up as invited. While I understand each school has its reasons, I think the conference should encourage them to play even to the point of helping offset the costs. The only way to showcase the conference is to defeat other conferences schools.

It costs $50,000 dollars to be in the CBI. You can get it cut in half if you do one of their Fall Tournaments I believe. If the WAC were to cover the costs for this years teams, it would cost $75,000-150,000 dollars. The WAC isn't rolling in money. It would be better spent elsewhere.

Do schools that host make money from the gate revenue or does that go to the tourney organizers? That could make up for the entry fee if you hosted a few games.

(03-15-2022 02:58 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(03-14-2022 07:04 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

(03-14-2022 05:59 PM)FirstandGoal Wrote:  According to what I saw, both Sam Houston and Utah Valley got invites but turned them down for the BC. I suppose if GCU and or Seattle made their plan to not play post-season except the NCAA known, then maybe that is why they didn't show up as invited. While I understand each school has its reasons, I think the conference should encourage them to play even to the point of helping offset the costs. The only way to showcase the conference is to defeat other conferences schools.

It costs $50,000 dollars to be in the CBI. You can get it cut in half if you do one of their Fall Tournaments I believe. If the WAC were to cover the costs for this years teams, it would cost $75,000-150,000 dollars. The WAC isn't rolling in money. It would be better spent elsewhere.

Do schools that host make money from the gate revenue or does that go to the tourney organizers? That could make up for the entry fee if you hosted a few games.

CBI Post Season Tournament is in Daytona Florida.

Have know idea who makes what with a Fall Tournament.

(03-15-2022 03:22 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

(03-15-2022 02:58 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(03-14-2022 07:04 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

(03-14-2022 05:59 PM)FirstandGoal Wrote:  According to what I saw, both Sam Houston and Utah Valley got invites but turned them down for the BC. I suppose if GCU and or Seattle made their plan to not play post-season except the NCAA known, then maybe that is why they didn't show up as invited. While I understand each school has its reasons, I think the conference should encourage them to play even to the point of helping offset the costs. The only way to showcase the conference is to defeat other conferences schools.

It costs $50,000 dollars to be in the CBI. You can get it cut in half if you do one of their Fall Tournaments I believe. If the WAC were to cover the costs for this years teams, it would cost $75,000-150,000 dollars. The WAC isn't rolling in money. It would be better spent elsewhere.

Do schools that host make money from the gate revenue or does that go to the tourney organizers? That could make up for the entry fee if you hosted a few games.

CBI Post Season Tournament is in Daytona Florida.

Have know idea who makes what with a Fall Tournament.

My bad. I was thinking of tournaments that were all hosted at home school sites. Either the CIT or CBI in the past was done that way.