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(03-13-2022 09:36 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  
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(03-13-2022 08:27 AM)757ODU Wrote:  Jeff Jones is going to be the coach next year.

If that is true then they are going the FB route they took with wilder and are willing to lose fans for a couple of seasons or even more. I do not have a clue of what the impact will be but if you lose roughly 1k fans purchasing season tickets and donations etc wouldnt that be around 350k? And at that point is it financially feasible to go ahead with that? These are arbitraty numbers pulled out of rabbit hat mind you but my point remains.

Sorry but the Comparison to Wilder began 4 years ago. His time is way past up. Sorry to be so harsh but either Wood makes him take a step back and lets Stith HC and bring in other assistants or we find another HC. Something MUST change this year.

NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
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If you are going to release him why would you wait and let the better candidates get chosen?
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Because Wood can't get out of his own way. People can say Wood is great and make all the excuses they want for him, but reality is he has overseen the collapse of both the football and basketball programs. Blame Broderick, Blame donors, blame the Cox Bill, at the end of the day it is Wood's job to ensure the health of these programs, and fight his ass off to make the right moves if there is someone else standing in his way, and he has failed in that regard. He also failed to hire a quality coach after he waited until Blaine completely melted down instead of dealing with that before he showed up drunk to a game when the issues were well known well before it got to that. Wood's administration has been a complete failure in every regard other than fundraising, bit what good does all the fundraising prowess in the world do if you can't turn that money into increased success?

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(03-13-2022 10:16 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  Because Wood can't get out of his own way. People can say Wood is great and make all the excuses they want for him, but reality is he has overseen the collapse of both the football and basketball programs. Blame Broderick, Blame donors, blame the Cox Bill, at the end of the day it is Wood's job to ensure the health of these programs, and fight his ass off to make the right moves if there is someone else standing in his way, and he has failed in that regard. He also failed to hire a quality coach after he waited until Blaine completely melted down instead of dealing with that before he showed up drunk to a game when the issues were well known well before it got to that. Wood's administration has been a complete failure in every regard other than fundraising, bit what good does all the fundraising prowess in the world do if you can't turn that money into increased success?

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The SBC MBB champion/GA State is a 16 seed. Feels like we’re going back to the CAA days of the ‘90s, where the champion was cannon fodder for a 1 or 2 seed. CUSA finally starting to get the respect it deserves with a 12 seed for UAB.
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(03-13-2022 05:57 PM)Monarch Pride Wrote:  The SBC MBB champion/GA State is a 16 seed. Feels like we’re going back to the CAA days of the ‘90s, where the champion was cannon fodder for a 1 or 2 seed. CUSA finally starting to get the respect it deserves with a 12 seed for UAB.

I’m guessing Texas State would have gotten at least a 14. But that’s what we bring to the table. Hopefully.
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(03-13-2022 10:16 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  Because Wood can't get out of his own way. People can say Wood is great and make all the excuses they want for him, but reality is he has overseen the collapse of both the football and basketball programs. Blame Broderick, Blame donors, blame the Cox Bill, at the end of the day it is Wood's job to ensure the health of these programs, and fight his ass off to make the right moves if there is someone else standing in his way, and he has failed in that regard. He also failed to hire a quality coach after he waited until Blaine completely melted down instead of dealing with that before he showed up drunk to a game when the issues were well known well before it got to that. Wood's administration has been a complete failure in every regard other than fundraising, bit what good does all the fundraising prowess in the world do if you can't turn that money into increased success?

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I would say that this is an over-simplification of events using hind-sight to judge. Go back to before the incident that lead to Blaine's firing, how easy is it to convince folks to fire the winningest coach for your program after a few down seasons? Hell, some folks want him to be coach NOW.

Coaches Wood has hired:
Finwood (Baseball)
Rahne (Football)
Angie Hind (W Soccer)
Dominik Mueller (M Tennis)
Dominic Manilla (W Tennis)
Nikki McCray (W Basketball)

All of these coaches have experienced great success, and most of them have won championships.

Coaches Wood did not hire, but had to deal with their messy ends:
Bobby Wilder
Blaine Taylor

I agree that we need a change in Men's Basketball but to say that Wood's tenure here has been "a complete failure in every regard other than fundraising" is reductionist, and ignores the realities that actually running an athletic program entails.
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Dealing with BT's issues before it got to the point of him showing up drunk to a game should not have been a difficult thing.

Yeah, not too interested in what he did for Women's tennis while the football and basketball (twice) programs were burnt all the way to the ground before resolving the issues that were plaguing them. There are no women's soccer successes that can make up for those failures.

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RE: Potential BBall Coach Replacement Thread
(03-13-2022 08:14 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  
(03-13-2022 10:16 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  Because Wood can't get out of his own way. People can say Wood is great and make all the excuses they want for him, but reality is he has overseen the collapse of both the football and basketball programs. Blame Broderick, Blame donors, blame the Cox Bill, at the end of the day it is Wood's job to ensure the health of these programs, and fight his ass off to make the right moves if there is someone else standing in his way, and he has failed in that regard. He also failed to hire a quality coach after he waited until Blaine completely melted down instead of dealing with that before he showed up drunk to a game when the issues were well known well before it got to that. Wood's administration has been a complete failure in every regard other than fundraising, bit what good does all the fundraising prowess in the world do if you can't turn that money into increased success?

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I would say that this is an over-simplification of events using hind-sight to judge. Go back to before the incident that lead to Blaine's firing, how easy is it to convince folks to fire the winningest coach for your program after a few down seasons? Hell, some folks want him to be coach NOW.

Coaches Wood has hired:
Finwood (Baseball)
Rahne (Football)
Angie Hind (W Soccer)
Dominik Mueller (M Tennis)
Dominic Manilla (W Tennis)
Nikki McCray (W Basketball)

All of these coaches have experienced great success, and most of them have won championships.

Coaches Wood did not hire, but had to deal with their messy ends:
Bobby Wilder
Blaine Taylor

I agree that we need a change in Men's Basketball but to say that Wood's tenure here has been "a complete failure in every regard other than fundraising" is reductionist, and ignores the realities that actually running an athletic program entails.

Fair points. But not all the things Wood has done are equally important. I’d say the biggest things he’s had to do are 1. Hire a football coach (good job it seems, but jury still out) 2. Hire a mens bball coach (bad job) 3. Build a new football stadium (it’s ok.) 4. Hire a womens bball coach (2x. Good job). So the jury is out in his most important hire. He blew it on his second most important job, the stadium gets a B minus, and he did good for womens hoops. So incomplete, F, B-, A.

Did Wood hire Barefoot or was that Jarrat?
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(03-13-2022 08:38 PM)monarx Wrote:  
(03-13-2022 08:14 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  
(03-13-2022 10:16 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  Because Wood can't get out of his own way. People can say Wood is great and make all the excuses they want for him, but reality is he has overseen the collapse of both the football and basketball programs. Blame Broderick, Blame donors, blame the Cox Bill, at the end of the day it is Wood's job to ensure the health of these programs, and fight his ass off to make the right moves if there is someone else standing in his way, and he has failed in that regard. He also failed to hire a quality coach after he waited until Blaine completely melted down instead of dealing with that before he showed up drunk to a game when the issues were well known well before it got to that. Wood's administration has been a complete failure in every regard other than fundraising, bit what good does all the fundraising prowess in the world do if you can't turn that money into increased success?

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I would say that this is an over-simplification of events using hind-sight to judge. Go back to before the incident that lead to Blaine's firing, how easy is it to convince folks to fire the winningest coach for your program after a few down seasons? Hell, some folks want him to be coach NOW.

Coaches Wood has hired:
Finwood (Baseball)
Rahne (Football)
Angie Hind (W Soccer)
Dominik Mueller (M Tennis)
Dominic Manilla (W Tennis)
Nikki McCray (W Basketball)

All of these coaches have experienced great success, and most of them have won championships.

Coaches Wood did not hire, but had to deal with their messy ends:
Bobby Wilder
Blaine Taylor

I agree that we need a change in Men's Basketball but to say that Wood's tenure here has been "a complete failure in every regard other than fundraising" is reductionist, and ignores the realities that actually running an athletic program entails.

Fair points. But not all the things Wood has done are equally important. I’d say the biggest things he’s had to do are 1. Hire a football coach (good job it seems, but jury still out) 2. Hire a mens bball coach (bad job) 3. Build a new football stadium (it’s ok.) 4. Hire a womens bball coach (2x. Good job). So the jury is out in his most important hire. He blew it on his second most important job, the stadium gets a B minus, and he did good for womens hoops. So incomplete, F, B-, A.

Did Wood hire Barefoot or was that Jarrat?

Be interesting to see what folks think if the football team starts out 0-3.
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(03-13-2022 09:20 PM)mac Wrote:  
(03-13-2022 08:38 PM)monarx Wrote:  
(03-13-2022 08:14 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  
(03-13-2022 10:16 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  Because Wood can't get out of his own way. People can say Wood is great and make all the excuses they want for him, but reality is he has overseen the collapse of both the football and basketball programs. Blame Broderick, Blame donors, blame the Cox Bill, at the end of the day it is Wood's job to ensure the health of these programs, and fight his ass off to make the right moves if there is someone else standing in his way, and he has failed in that regard. He also failed to hire a quality coach after he waited until Blaine completely melted down instead of dealing with that before he showed up drunk to a game when the issues were well known well before it got to that. Wood's administration has been a complete failure in every regard other than fundraising, bit what good does all the fundraising prowess in the world do if you can't turn that money into increased success?

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I would say that this is an over-simplification of events using hind-sight to judge. Go back to before the incident that lead to Blaine's firing, how easy is it to convince folks to fire the winningest coach for your program after a few down seasons? Hell, some folks want him to be coach NOW.

Coaches Wood has hired:
Finwood (Baseball)
Rahne (Football)
Angie Hind (W Soccer)
Dominik Mueller (M Tennis)
Dominic Manilla (W Tennis)
Nikki McCray (W Basketball)

All of these coaches have experienced great success, and most of them have won championships.

Coaches Wood did not hire, but had to deal with their messy ends:
Bobby Wilder
Blaine Taylor

I agree that we need a change in Men's Basketball but to say that Wood's tenure here has been "a complete failure in every regard other than fundraising" is reductionist, and ignores the realities that actually running an athletic program entails.

Fair points. But not all the things Wood has done are equally important. I’d say the biggest things he’s had to do are 1. Hire a football coach (good job it seems, but jury still out) 2. Hire a mens bball coach (bad job) 3. Build a new football stadium (it’s ok.) 4. Hire a womens bball coach (2x. Good job). So the jury is out in his most important hire. He blew it on his second most important job, the stadium gets a B minus, and he did good for womens hoops. So incomplete, F, B-, A.

Did Wood hire Barefoot or was that Jarrat?

Be interesting to see what folks think if the football team starts out 0-3.
I hope people can be a little patient given the schedule.
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(03-13-2022 09:34 PM)Chillie Willie Wrote:  
(03-13-2022 09:20 PM)mac Wrote:  
(03-13-2022 08:38 PM)monarx Wrote:  
(03-13-2022 08:14 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  
(03-13-2022 10:16 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  Because Wood can't get out of his own way. People can say Wood is great and make all the excuses they want for him, but reality is he has overseen the collapse of both the football and basketball programs. Blame Broderick, Blame donors, blame the Cox Bill, at the end of the day it is Wood's job to ensure the health of these programs, and fight his ass off to make the right moves if there is someone else standing in his way, and he has failed in that regard. He also failed to hire a quality coach after he waited until Blaine completely melted down instead of dealing with that before he showed up drunk to a game when the issues were well known well before it got to that. Wood's administration has been a complete failure in every regard other than fundraising, bit what good does all the fundraising prowess in the world do if you can't turn that money into increased success?

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I would say that this is an over-simplification of events using hind-sight to judge. Go back to before the incident that lead to Blaine's firing, how easy is it to convince folks to fire the winningest coach for your program after a few down seasons? Hell, some folks want him to be coach NOW.

Coaches Wood has hired:
Finwood (Baseball)
Rahne (Football)
Angie Hind (W Soccer)
Dominik Mueller (M Tennis)
Dominic Manilla (W Tennis)
Nikki McCray (W Basketball)

All of these coaches have experienced great success, and most of them have won championships.

Coaches Wood did not hire, but had to deal with their messy ends:
Bobby Wilder
Blaine Taylor

I agree that we need a change in Men's Basketball but to say that Wood's tenure here has been "a complete failure in every regard other than fundraising" is reductionist, and ignores the realities that actually running an athletic program entails.

Fair points. But not all the things Wood has done are equally important. I’d say the biggest things he’s had to do are 1. Hire a football coach (good job it seems, but jury still out) 2. Hire a mens bball coach (bad job) 3. Build a new football stadium (it’s ok.) 4. Hire a womens bball coach (2x. Good job). So the jury is out in his most important hire. He blew it on his second most important job, the stadium gets a B minus, and he did good for womens hoops. So incomplete, F, B-, A.

Did Wood hire Barefoot or was that Jarrat?

Be interesting to see what folks think if the football team starts out 0-3.
I hope people can be a little patient given the schedule.

The Fire Rahne Pt. 2 thread will be up the moment ODU has its first two-possession deficit.
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(03-13-2022 08:14 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  
(03-13-2022 10:16 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  Because Wood can't get out of his own way. People can say Wood is great and make all the excuses they want for him, but reality is he has overseen the collapse of both the football and basketball programs. Blame Broderick, Blame donors, blame the Cox Bill, at the end of the day it is Wood's job to ensure the health of these programs, and fight his ass off to make the right moves if there is someone else standing in his way, and he has failed in that regard. He also failed to hire a quality coach after he waited until Blaine completely melted down instead of dealing with that before he showed up drunk to a game when the issues were well known well before it got to that. Wood's administration has been a complete failure in every regard other than fundraising, bit what good does all the fundraising prowess in the world do if you can't turn that money into increased success?

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I would say that this is an over-simplification of events using hind-sight to judge. Go back to before the incident that lead to Blaine's firing, how easy is it to convince folks to fire the winningest coach for your program after a few down seasons? Hell, some folks want him to be coach NOW.

Coaches Wood has hired:
Finwood (Baseball)
Rahne (Football)
Angie Hind (W Soccer)
Dominik Mueller (M Tennis)
Dominic Manilla (W Tennis)
Nikki McCray (W Basketball)

All of these coaches have experienced great success, and most of them have won championships.

Coaches Wood did not hire, but had to deal with their messy ends:
Bobby Wilder
Blaine Taylor

I agree that we need a change in Men's Basketball but to say that Wood's tenure here has been "a complete failure in every regard other than fundraising" is reductionist, and ignores the realities that actually running an athletic program entails.
Great perspective
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RE: Potential BBall Coach Replacement Thread
(03-13-2022 09:20 PM)mac Wrote:  
(03-13-2022 08:38 PM)monarx Wrote:  
(03-13-2022 08:14 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  
(03-13-2022 10:16 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  Because Wood can't get out of his own way. People can say Wood is great and make all the excuses they want for him, but reality is he has overseen the collapse of both the football and basketball programs. Blame Broderick, Blame donors, blame the Cox Bill, at the end of the day it is Wood's job to ensure the health of these programs, and fight his ass off to make the right moves if there is someone else standing in his way, and he has failed in that regard. He also failed to hire a quality coach after he waited until Blaine completely melted down instead of dealing with that before he showed up drunk to a game when the issues were well known well before it got to that. Wood's administration has been a complete failure in every regard other than fundraising, bit what good does all the fundraising prowess in the world do if you can't turn that money into increased success?

Sent from my Pixel 4a using Tapatalk

I would say that this is an over-simplification of events using hind-sight to judge. Go back to before the incident that lead to Blaine's firing, how easy is it to convince folks to fire the winningest coach for your program after a few down seasons? Hell, some folks want him to be coach NOW.

Coaches Wood has hired:
Finwood (Baseball)
Rahne (Football)
Angie Hind (W Soccer)
Dominik Mueller (M Tennis)
Dominic Manilla (W Tennis)
Nikki McCray (W Basketball)

All of these coaches have experienced great success, and most of them have won championships.

Coaches Wood did not hire, but had to deal with their messy ends:
Bobby Wilder
Blaine Taylor

I agree that we need a change in Men's Basketball but to say that Wood's tenure here has been "a complete failure in every regard other than fundraising" is reductionist, and ignores the realities that actually running an athletic program entails.

Fair points. But not all the things Wood has done are equally important. I’d say the biggest things he’s had to do are 1. Hire a football coach (good job it seems, but jury still out) 2. Hire a mens bball coach (bad job) 3. Build a new football stadium (it’s ok.) 4. Hire a womens bball coach (2x. Good job). So the jury is out in his most important hire. He blew it on his second most important job, the stadium gets a B minus, and he did good for womens hoops. So incomplete, F, B-, A.

Did Wood hire Barefoot or was that Jarrat?

Be interesting to see what folks think if the football team starts out 0-3.

Given the difficulty of the schedule, I won’t be shocked by that at all. In fact, I think we will have a better team than last seasons’s bowl team, but will likely finish with 3 wins. It’s a brutal schedule.
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(03-13-2022 08:14 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  
(03-13-2022 10:16 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  Because Wood can't get out of his own way. People can say Wood is great and make all the excuses they want for him, but reality is he has overseen the collapse of both the football and basketball programs. Blame Broderick, Blame donors, blame the Cox Bill, at the end of the day it is Wood's job to ensure the health of these programs, and fight his ass off to make the right moves if there is someone else standing in his way, and he has failed in that regard. He also failed to hire a quality coach after he waited until Blaine completely melted down instead of dealing with that before he showed up drunk to a game when the issues were well known well before it got to that. Wood's administration has been a complete failure in every regard other than fundraising, bit what good does all the fundraising prowess in the world do if you can't turn that money into increased success?

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I would say that this is an over-simplification of events using hind-sight to judge. Go back to before the incident that lead to Blaine's firing, how easy is it to convince folks to fire the winningest coach for your program after a few down seasons? Hell, some folks want him to be coach NOW.

Coaches Wood has hired:
Finwood (Baseball)
Rahne (Football)
Angie Hind (W Soccer)
Dominik Mueller (M Tennis)
Dominic Manilla (W Tennis)
Nikki McCray (W Basketball)

All of these coaches have experienced great success, and most of them have won championships.

Coaches Wood did not hire, but had to deal with their messy ends:
Bobby Wilder
Blaine Taylor

I agree that we need a change in Men's Basketball but to say that Wood's tenure here has been "a complete failure in every regard other than fundraising" is reductionist, and ignores the realities that actually running an athletic program entails.
I am still not sure about the new women's hoops hire. The team is better, but we have not turned a corner. A three seed in the conference tournament and a fist game loss do not instill confidence. Of the women were the men, people would be losing their minds. On the replace JJ thing, call me when he steps down. Or is fired. Until then meh.

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RE: Potential BBall Coach Replacement Thread
(03-14-2022 06:33 AM)monarx Wrote:  
(03-13-2022 09:20 PM)mac Wrote:  
(03-13-2022 08:38 PM)monarx Wrote:  
(03-13-2022 08:14 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  
(03-13-2022 10:16 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  Because Wood can't get out of his own way. People can say Wood is great and make all the excuses they want for him, but reality is he has overseen the collapse of both the football and basketball programs. Blame Broderick, Blame donors, blame the Cox Bill, at the end of the day it is Wood's job to ensure the health of these programs, and fight his ass off to make the right moves if there is someone else standing in his way, and he has failed in that regard. He also failed to hire a quality coach after he waited until Blaine completely melted down instead of dealing with that before he showed up drunk to a game when the issues were well known well before it got to that. Wood's administration has been a complete failure in every regard other than fundraising, bit what good does all the fundraising prowess in the world do if you can't turn that money into increased success?

Sent from my Pixel 4a using Tapatalk

I would say that this is an over-simplification of events using hind-sight to judge. Go back to before the incident that lead to Blaine's firing, how easy is it to convince folks to fire the winningest coach for your program after a few down seasons? Hell, some folks want him to be coach NOW.

Coaches Wood has hired:
Finwood (Baseball)
Rahne (Football)
Angie Hind (W Soccer)
Dominik Mueller (M Tennis)
Dominic Manilla (W Tennis)
Nikki McCray (W Basketball)

All of these coaches have experienced great success, and most of them have won championships.

Coaches Wood did not hire, but had to deal with their messy ends:
Bobby Wilder
Blaine Taylor

I agree that we need a change in Men's Basketball but to say that Wood's tenure here has been "a complete failure in every regard other than fundraising" is reductionist, and ignores the realities that actually running an athletic program entails.

Fair points. But not all the things Wood has done are equally important. I’d say the biggest things he’s had to do are 1. Hire a football coach (good job it seems, but jury still out) 2. Hire a mens bball coach (bad job) 3. Build a new football stadium (it’s ok.) 4. Hire a womens bball coach (2x. Good job). So the jury is out in his most important hire. He blew it on his second most important job, the stadium gets a B minus, and he did good for womens hoops. So incomplete, F, B-, A.

Did Wood hire Barefoot or was that Jarrat?

Be interesting to see what folks think if the football team starts out 0-3.

Given the difficulty of the schedule, I won’t be shocked by that at all. In fact, I think we will have a better team than last seasons’s bowl team, but will likely finish with 3 wins. It’s a brutal schedule.

The estimation by most fans of any AD's success on sports forums is usually going to be very shallow and will cover only what affects the fan directly. I get the point of view of fans because I am one also, but an AD' s job is much more comprehensive than just W's and L's. Given all of the challenges over the past few years ( pay for players, covid, NIL, realignment), and other factor that have always been in place like APR, I say WS has done a very good job.
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(03-13-2022 09:36 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  
(03-13-2022 08:46 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  
(03-13-2022 08:27 AM)757ODU Wrote:  Jeff Jones is going to be the coach next year.

If that is true then they are going the FB route they took with wilder and are willing to lose fans for a couple of seasons or even more. I do not have a clue of what the impact will be but if you lose roughly 1k fans purchasing season tickets and donations etc wouldnt that be around 350k? And at that point is it financially feasible to go ahead with that? These are arbitraty numbers pulled out of rabbit hat mind you but my point remains.

Sorry but the Comparison to Wilder began 4 years ago. His time is way past up. Sorry to be so harsh but either Wood makes him take a step back and lets Stith HC and bring in other assistants or we find another HC. Something MUST change this year.

Absolutely no to Stith ever being considered as ODU's head coach. He failed his audition miserably at the Myrtle Beach tournament.
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We can probably close this thread until next offseason.
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(03-14-2022 06:43 AM)BigBlueMonarch Wrote:  
(03-13-2022 08:14 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  
(03-13-2022 10:16 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  Because Wood can't get out of his own way. People can say Wood is great and make all the excuses they want for him, but reality is he has overseen the collapse of both the football and basketball programs. Blame Broderick, Blame donors, blame the Cox Bill, at the end of the day it is Wood's job to ensure the health of these programs, and fight his ass off to make the right moves if there is someone else standing in his way, and he has failed in that regard. He also failed to hire a quality coach after he waited until Blaine completely melted down instead of dealing with that before he showed up drunk to a game when the issues were well known well before it got to that. Wood's administration has been a complete failure in every regard other than fundraising, bit what good does all the fundraising prowess in the world do if you can't turn that money into increased success?

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I would say that this is an over-simplification of events using hind-sight to judge. Go back to before the incident that lead to Blaine's firing, how easy is it to convince folks to fire the winningest coach for your program after a few down seasons? Hell, some folks want him to be coach NOW.

Coaches Wood has hired:
Finwood (Baseball)
Rahne (Football)
Angie Hind (W Soccer)
Dominik Mueller (M Tennis)
Dominic Manilla (W Tennis)
Nikki McCray (W Basketball)

All of these coaches have experienced great success, and most of them have won championships.

Coaches Wood did not hire, but had to deal with their messy ends:
Bobby Wilder
Blaine Taylor

I agree that we need a change in Men's Basketball but to say that Wood's tenure here has been "a complete failure in every regard other than fundraising" is reductionist, and ignores the realities that actually running an athletic program entails.
I am still not sure about the new women's hoops hire. The team is better, but we have not turned a corner. A three seed in the conference tournament and a fist game loss do not instill confidence. Of the women were the men, people would be losing their minds. On the replace JJ thing, call me when he steps down. Or is fired. Until then meh.

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I still have doubts on this one too.
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(03-13-2022 05:57 PM)Monarch Pride Wrote:  The SBC MBB champion/GA State is a 16 seed. Feels like we’re going back to the CAA days of the ‘90s, where the champion was cannon fodder for a 1 or 2 seed. CUSA finally starting to get the respect it deserves with a 12 seed for UAB.

I’m guessing Texas State would have gotten at least a 14. But that’s what we bring to the table. Hopefully.

The ACC winner is an 11 seed, what does that say about the conference? Texas State would have been a 13/14 seed....probably 14. If LT would have beaten UAB, they would have been a 14.
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