Legit question. If Samb is currently still holding a scholarship until he finds another home, do we truly still have one to give?


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(05-10-2022 09:22 AM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(05-10-2022 06:58 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(05-10-2022 04:34 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Here is where we are after the last two commits. It has been said on other threads that we are "small", but I don't see that at all. What's crazy is that SIX of our guys are listed as rising sophomores two are incoming freshman. We went from a top heavy team with seniors, to a team with no seniors, two juniors, and the rest are sophomores and freshman.



Thomas So 6'0" 185lbs.
Newby Jr 6'1" 190 lbs
Phillips Sr 6'2" 180lbs
Morrissey So 6'4" 200lbs(no scholarship...yet)
Harvey Jr 6'5" 185lbs
Ross Fr 6'6" 190lbs.
Hodge Fr 6'6" 180lbs
White So 6'6" 185lbs
Farrar So 6'6" 230lbs
Samb Sr 6'7" 200lbs
MHHayes Jr 6'7" 185 lbs
McGriff So 6'8" 180lbs
VanDerH So 6'9" 210lbs
Kelly Sr 6'9" 235lbs

didn't Samb transfer? With only 3 guys that are 6'6 or above and 200 and above, that is LESS than the 4 guys we had that fit that same mold last year.

Pretty certain he just put his name in the portal. Not sure he’s been picked up by another team just yet.


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Once you put your name in the portal you don't get to come back unless the feeling is mutual.

(05-10-2022 09:46 AM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  Legit question. If Samb is currently still holding a scholarship until he finds another home, do we truly still have one to give?


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I'd think once you put your name in the portal coach has every right to pull the scolly. If i'm Siddle and i find a better option i'd certainly take the "out". Entering the portal is essentially like telling your boss you quit before you have excepted another position in writing.

(05-10-2022 09:49 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(05-10-2022 09:46 AM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  Legit question. If Samb is currently still holding a scholarship until he finds another home, do we truly still have one to give?


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I'd think once you put your name in the portal coach has every right to pull the scolly. If i'm Siddle and i find a better option i'd certainly take the "out". Entering the portal is essentially like telling your boss you quit before you have excepted another position in writing.

I actually think it's more than that. Officially once your name is in the portal, should you want to come back it doesn't count as having pulled their scholarship. A lot of guys end up finding themselves homeless when looking for greener pastures.

(05-10-2022 10:27 AM)70shawk Wrote:  

(05-10-2022 09:49 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(05-10-2022 09:46 AM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  Legit question. If Samb is currently still holding a scholarship until he finds another home, do we truly still have one to give?


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I'd think once you put your name in the portal coach has every right to pull the scolly. If i'm Siddle and i find a better option i'd certainly take the "out". Entering the portal is essentially like telling your boss you quit before you have excepted another position in writing.

I actually think it's more than that. Officially once your name is in the portal, should you want to come back it doesn't count as having pulled their scholarship. A lot of guys end up finding themselves homeless when looking for greener pastures.

I agree with what both of you are saying. Right now, it's just not a clear cut answer for us. We can probably assume there's an open scholarship available, but currently that's just an assumption.

Scholarships are considered financial aid and are approved through the AD on a year to year basis so Siddle could take his aid package away through that process and he could appeal that if he wants to . In most cases the coach calls the player in and tells him what is happening and basically runs the kid off is how it works . Good luck in your future endeavors is the deal -beat it.

I wasn't 100 percent sure on Samb so I left his name. But reading here I'm pretty sure once you hit the portal you're giving up your scholarship unless you're invited back.

If we still have one to give, I really hope we pick up another big center.

(05-10-2022 03:20 PM)82hawk Wrote:  I wasn't 100 percent sure on Samb so I left his name. But reading here I'm pretty sure once you hit the portal you're giving up your scholarship unless you're invited back.

If we still have one to give, I really hope we pick up another big center.

I'd think we kind of have to no? The new kid that is 6'6 230 will help, but we definitely need one more 6'8, 6'9(or more) with a little meat. Still some viable options out there we had been in contact with.

(05-10-2022 04:05 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(05-10-2022 03:20 PM)82hawk Wrote:  I wasn't 100 percent sure on Samb so I left his name. But reading here I'm pretty sure once you hit the portal you're giving up your scholarship unless you're invited back.

If we still have one to give, I really hope we pick up another big center.

I'd think we kind of have to no? The new kid that is 6'6 230 will help, but we definitely need one more 6'8, 6'9(or more) with a little meat. Still some viable options out there we had been in contact with.

The 6'9" kid we brought in from Raleigh reminds of a higher quality Boggs, so i can't see him playing center. From what I can see Kelly and McGriff are the only centers on the roster, and even McGriff is only 6'7" and didn't play last year. I've seen school compete without a stable of big men, but i'd be surprised if we didn't bring in one more transfer big man.

McGriff is listed at 6’8” and has a long wing span from what I’ve read. Hopefully he continues to fill out. Yep, one more big would seemingly solidify things in many of our minds.

Yes once you enter the portal you are no longer guaranteed a scholarship, so that players scholarship is then open. Even if the player returns, they are not guaranteed a scholarship back and can become a walk-on. Whether the scholarship is given back is totally up to the coach/school. But once a kid enters the portal the school's obligation is terminated at that point

(05-11-2022 07:22 AM)dan10 Wrote:  Yes once you enter the portal you are no longer guaranteed a scholarship, so that players scholarship is then open. Even if the player returns, they are not guaranteed a scholarship back and can become a walk-on. Whether the scholarship is given back is totally up to the coach/school. But once a kid enters the portal the school's obligation is terminated at that point

Not true until the school does not renew with the player for the next year .

(05-11-2022 12:49 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 07:22 AM)dan10 Wrote:  Yes once you enter the portal you are no longer guaranteed a scholarship, so that players scholarship is then open. Even if the player returns, they are not guaranteed a scholarship back and can become a walk-on. Whether the scholarship is given back is totally up to the coach/school. But once a kid enters the portal the school's obligation is terminated at that point

Not true until the school does not renew with the player for the next year .

From my reading that's a distinction without a difference. Once you enter the portal your scholarship is not there waiting for you if you decide to change your mind about entering. Samb's scholarship is now open for the best player that UNCW can attract to fill it.

Okay. So after all of the experts have weighed in, there’s not a clear cut answer on this. Just our assumptions.

Which means… we probably have another scholarship available, but maybe not.

So, therein lies the answer to our question of whether or not we have been or are actively looking for a “big” to fill the last spot. That answer is maybe, but probably no.

I say that, because IF we were looking to definitively add a big to the team it likely would’ve been earlier in the process when we had definitive scholarships to offer.

Just trying to use a little objective logic here, based on what we have and who Siddle has recruited to date (pattern).


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I still think he adds a big but that’s just a guess. Could be wrong and you may be right BHawks.

(05-11-2022 05:51 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  Okay. So after all of the experts have weighed in, there’s not a clear cut answer on this. Just our assumptions.

Which means… we probably have another scholarship available, but maybe not.

So, therein lies the answer to our question of whether or not we have been or are actively looking for a “big” to fill the last spot. That answer is maybe, but probably no.

I say that, because IF we were looking to definitively add a big to the team it likely would’ve been earlier in the process when we had definitive scholarships to offer.

Just trying to use a little objective logic here, based on what we have and who Siddle has recruited to date (pattern).


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Not really logical at all. The Siddle style of play is not going to have a large stable of big men, but does have a large stable of guards and wings. So logically, our pattern of recruiting is going to be almost wholly guards and wings, not centers. To date, we have replaced every loss and every hole in our roster, except the loss of Baker. In other words, the loss of one big man. And it so happens we have one scholarship left, and we have a likely need for one big man. But there's one more piece of this puzzle we don't know about. McGriff. Last year we had three centers, but one of them didn't play, so in reality we had two big men in Baker and Kelly. It could be that McGriff has shown a lot more to Siddle and the staff than any of us know. I've stated multiple times that at most we will have three centers on the roster, and with one scholarship left, it's possible and maybe likely that scholarship will be used on a big man.

(05-11-2022 07:18 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 05:51 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  Okay. So after all of the experts have weighed in, there’s not a clear cut answer on this. Just our assumptions.

Which means… we probably have another scholarship available, but maybe not.

So, therein lies the answer to our question of whether or not we have been or are actively looking for a “big” to fill the last spot. That answer is maybe, but probably no.

I say that, because IF we were looking to definitively add a big to the team it likely would’ve been earlier in the process when we had definitive scholarships to offer.

Just trying to use a little objective logic here, based on what we have and who Siddle has recruited to date (pattern).


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Not really logical at all. The Siddle style of play is not going to have a large stable of big men, but does have a large stable of guards and wings. So logically, our pattern of recruiting is going to be almost wholly guards and wings, not centers. To date, we have replaced every loss and every hole in our roster, except the loss of Baker. In other words, the loss of one big man. And it so happens we have one scholarship left, and we have a likely need for one big man. But there's one more piece of this puzzle we don't know about. McGriff. Last year we had three centers, but one of them didn't play, so in reality we had two big men in Baker and Kelly. It could be that McGriff has shown a lot more to Siddle and the staff than any of us know. I've stated multiple times that at most we will have three centers on the roster, and with one scholarship left, it's possible and maybe likely that scholarship will be used on a big man.

The third big guy Samb technically won’t be replaced and he was a huge factor in winning the CBI. We don’t have 3 centers in the roster last season


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(05-11-2022 08:04 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 07:18 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 05:51 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  Okay. So after all of the experts have weighed in, there’s not a clear cut answer on this. Just our assumptions.

Which means… we probably have another scholarship available, but maybe not.

So, therein lies the answer to our question of whether or not we have been or are actively looking for a “big” to fill the last spot. That answer is maybe, but probably no.

I say that, because IF we were looking to definitively add a big to the team it likely would’ve been earlier in the process when we had definitive scholarships to offer.

Just trying to use a little objective logic here, based on what we have and who Siddle has recruited to date (pattern).


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Not really logical at all. The Siddle style of play is not going to have a large stable of big men, but does have a large stable of guards and wings. So logically, our pattern of recruiting is going to be almost wholly guards and wings, not centers. To date, we have replaced every loss and every hole in our roster, except the loss of Baker. In other words, the loss of one big man. And it so happens we have one scholarship left, and we have a likely need for one big man. But there's one more piece of this puzzle we don't know about. McGriff. Last year we had three centers, but one of them didn't play, so in reality we had two big men in Baker and Kelly. It could be that McGriff has shown a lot more to Siddle and the staff than any of us know. I've stated multiple times that at most we will have three centers on the roster, and with one scholarship left, it's possible and maybe likely that scholarship will be used on a big man.

The third big guy Samb technically won’t be replaced and he was a huge factor in winning the CBI. We don’t have 3 centers in the roster last season


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Samb was not a big man. He was forced into play due to foul trouble. He would be playing the four, not the five if he stayed here. Last year we had Baker, Kelly and McGriff and I doubt we will ever have more than three guys on the roster at center under Siddle. So, like I said, we only need on scholarship to fill that third spot for a big man and that's what we have left.

(05-11-2022 08:43 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 08:04 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 07:18 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 05:51 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  Okay. So after all of the experts have weighed in, there’s not a clear cut answer on this. Just our assumptions.

Which means… we probably have another scholarship available, but maybe not.

So, therein lies the answer to our question of whether or not we have been or are actively looking for a “big” to fill the last spot. That answer is maybe, but probably no.

I say that, because IF we were looking to definitively add a big to the team it likely would’ve been earlier in the process when we had definitive scholarships to offer.

Just trying to use a little objective logic here, based on what we have and who Siddle has recruited to date (pattern).


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Not really logical at all. The Siddle style of play is not going to have a large stable of big men, but does have a large stable of guards and wings. So logically, our pattern of recruiting is going to be almost wholly guards and wings, not centers. To date, we have replaced every loss and every hole in our roster, except the loss of Baker. In other words, the loss of one big man. And it so happens we have one scholarship left, and we have a likely need for one big man. But there's one more piece of this puzzle we don't know about. McGriff. Last year we had three centers, but one of them didn't play, so in reality we had two big men in Baker and Kelly. It could be that McGriff has shown a lot more to Siddle and the staff than any of us know. I've stated multiple times that at most we will have three centers on the roster, and with one scholarship left, it's possible and maybe likely that scholarship will be used on a big man.

The third big guy Samb technically won’t be replaced and he was a huge factor in winning the CBI. We don’t have 3 centers in the roster last season


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Samb was not a big man. He was forced into play due to foul trouble. He would be playing the four, not the five if he stayed here. Last year we had Baker, Kelly and McGriff and I doubt we will ever have more than three guys on the roster at center under Siddle. So, like I said, we only need on scholarship to fill that third spot for a big man and that's what we have left.

Sorry I don’t consider a kid 6’8 a Buck fifty a big man


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(05-11-2022 08:49 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 08:43 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 08:04 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 07:18 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 05:51 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  Okay. So after all of the experts have weighed in, there’s not a clear cut answer on this. Just our assumptions.

Which means… we probably have another scholarship available, but maybe not.

So, therein lies the answer to our question of whether or not we have been or are actively looking for a “big” to fill the last spot. That answer is maybe, but probably no.

I say that, because IF we were looking to definitively add a big to the team it likely would’ve been earlier in the process when we had definitive scholarships to offer.

Just trying to use a little objective logic here, based on what we have and who Siddle has recruited to date (pattern).


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Not really logical at all. The Siddle style of play is not going to have a large stable of big men, but does have a large stable of guards and wings. So logically, our pattern of recruiting is going to be almost wholly guards and wings, not centers. To date, we have replaced every loss and every hole in our roster, except the loss of Baker. In other words, the loss of one big man. And it so happens we have one scholarship left, and we have a likely need for one big man. But there's one more piece of this puzzle we don't know about. McGriff. Last year we had three centers, but one of them didn't play, so in reality we had two big men in Baker and Kelly. It could be that McGriff has shown a lot more to Siddle and the staff than any of us know. I've stated multiple times that at most we will have three centers on the roster, and with one scholarship left, it's possible and maybe likely that scholarship will be used on a big man.

The third big guy Samb technically won’t be replaced and he was a huge factor in winning the CBI. We don’t have 3 centers in the roster last season


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Samb was not a big man. He was forced into play due to foul trouble. He would be playing the four, not the five if he stayed here. Last year we had Baker, Kelly and McGriff and I doubt we will ever have more than three guys on the roster at center under Siddle. So, like I said, we only need on scholarship to fill that third spot for a big man and that's what we have left.

Sorry I don’t consider a kid 6’8 a Buck fifty a big man


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Whether you do or not, Siddle does. McGriff was recruited to play the center position, not the four. Siddle is going to recruit guys who can score outside for his four spot, McGriff doesn't have an outside game.