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RE: AZ Wackadoodle Wendy Rogers Faces Censure
(05-17-2022 05:15 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(03-01-2022 04:38 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  
(03-01-2022 04:32 PM)banker Wrote:  If that’s all she said, I fully support her. The OP was deceptive by trying to connect “white supremacy” and lynchings to create an implied racial overtones.

"I stand with the Christians worldwide not the global bankers who are shoving godlessness and degeneracy in our face"

Really? What she said was poorly disguised antisemitism.

How so? Are you saying global bankers are Jewish -- and Jewish only -- and that "global banker" is synonymous with "Jew"?

Is this sarcasm? If so, well done.

If not, I'm gobsmacked. Using the term "global bankers" is ABSOLUTELY synonymous with "Jew"... for your average anti-Semite. And Rogers' juxtaposition alongside Christians makes it pretty clear how she's framing this. The bigoted belief that Jews run the world's financial systems - and I really can't believe I have to say this - is at least as old as the Rothschilds. And the stereotype of the greedy, evil, moneylending Jew was common enough for Shakespeare to put in the Merchant of Venice but let's face it - it's probably been around for much longer than that.

Am I really the only person who noticed this, or are you going to offer some explanation that Rogers used that term in a way that is somehow different from the way anti-Semites use it? Or... do you just not care?
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(05-17-2022 11:50 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  
(05-17-2022 05:15 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(03-01-2022 04:38 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  
(03-01-2022 04:32 PM)banker Wrote:  If that’s all she said, I fully support her. The OP was deceptive by trying to connect “white supremacy” and lynchings to create an implied racial overtones.

"I stand with the Christians worldwide not the global bankers who are shoving godlessness and degeneracy in our face"

Really? What she said was poorly disguised antisemitism.

How so? Are you saying global bankers are Jewish -- and Jewish only -- and that "global banker" is synonymous with "Jew"?

Is this sarcasm? If so, well done.

If not, I'm gobsmacked. Using the term "global bankers" is ABSOLUTELY synonymous with "Jew"... for your average anti-Semite. And Rogers' juxtaposition alongside Christians makes it pretty clear how she's framing this. The bigoted belief that Jews run the world's financial systems - and I really can't believe I have to say this - is at least as old as the Rothschilds. And the stereotype of the greedy, evil, moneylending Jew was common enough for Shakespeare to put in the Merchant of Venice but let's face it - it's probably been around for much longer than that.

Am I really the only person who noticed this, or are you going to offer some explanation that Rogers used that term in a way that is somehow different from the way anti-Semites use it? Or... do you just not care?

No its not. 03-lmfao

Global banker is a global banker.

Good grief rinse the sand out

Thanks for the all caps school marm. You really told him

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(05-18-2022 12:01 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(05-17-2022 11:50 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  
(05-17-2022 05:15 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(03-01-2022 04:38 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  
(03-01-2022 04:32 PM)banker Wrote:  If that’s all she said, I fully support her. The OP was deceptive by trying to connect “white supremacy” and lynchings to create an implied racial overtones.

"I stand with the Christians worldwide not the global bankers who are shoving godlessness and degeneracy in our face"

Really? What she said was poorly disguised antisemitism.

How so? Are you saying global bankers are Jewish -- and Jewish only -- and that "global banker" is synonymous with "Jew"?

Is this sarcasm? If so, well done.

If not, I'm gobsmacked. Using the term "global bankers" is ABSOLUTELY synonymous with "Jew"... for your average anti-Semite. And Rogers' juxtaposition alongside Christians makes it pretty clear how she's framing this. The bigoted belief that Jews run the world's financial systems - and I really can't believe I have to say this - is at least as old as the Rothschilds. And the stereotype of the greedy, evil, moneylending Jew was common enough for Shakespeare to put in the Merchant of Venice but let's face it - it's probably been around for much longer than that.

Am I really the only person who noticed this, or are you going to offer some explanation that Rogers used that term in a way that is somehow different from the way anti-Semites use it? Or... do you just not care?

No its not. 03-lmfao

Global banker is a global banker.

Good grief rinse the sand out

Thanks for the all caps school marm. You really told him

01-wingedeagle

How dare you rebuke and disabuse the children of victimization! Here's the irony, their world is only black and white yet they only see color and ethnicity. You would think in a world of only 2 absolutes there would be no room for shade and nuance, yet they cram all nuance and shade into black and white!

Truly they are unnatural children. There is no natural affection. They are bereft of any understanding of the complexities of human nature. And while despising correction, or having the ability to admit an error or misdeed, they immediately categorize all others as either good or evil all of which is determined by binary moral code, and none of it is real.

it's so reminiscent of the Hitler Youth and Young Pioneers, only these are socially incompetent and the others unfortunately were not.
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You can't, or are unwilling to connect the dots? Rogers goes to AFPAC, praises its unapologetically anti-Semitic leader (it's easy to find Nick Fuentes on the record with anti-Jewish rhetoric), and then uses this loaded language that we all know is so often used to disparage Jews. And you really think she was just referring to generic bankers around the globe? That's willful ignorance at best.

It's encouraging to see folks on this forum stand up for Israel when Hezbollah are lobbing rockets, or when "the squad" put out their BS, but then so disappointing to see rationalizing like crazy when some White Nationalist spouts this crap just because she happens to support a few causes you agree with. It's so ******* important that your guy/gal gets elected or that your party stays in power that you can't admit when one of them behaves badly?

Anyway, if you don't feel like discussing the actual issue you're doin great with the insults and the ad hom.
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(05-18-2022 12:14 AM)JRsec Wrote:  How dare you rebuke and disabuse the children of victimization! Here's the irony, their world is only black and white yet they only see color and ethnicity. You would think in a world of only 2 absolutes there would be no room for shade and nuance, yet they cram all nuance and shade into black and white!

Truly they are unnatural children. There is no natural affection. They are bereft of any understanding of the complexities of human nature. And while despising correction, or having the ability to admit an error or misdeed, they immediately categorize all others as either good or evil all of which is determined by binary moral code, and none of it is real.

it's so reminiscent of the Hitler Youth and Young Pioneers, only these are socially incompetent and the others unfortunately were not.

03-lmfao Just a remarkable word salad here but I love the irony of an accusation of social incompetence in a completely ad hominem criticism that also invokes Godwin's Law.
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Pro Tip: If you have to work really hard and squint your eyes to connect the dots, the dots probably arent very connected in the first place.
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(05-18-2022 02:27 AM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  
(05-18-2022 12:14 AM)JRsec Wrote:  How dare you rebuke and disabuse the children of victimization! Here's the irony, their world is only black and white yet they only see color and ethnicity. You would think in a world of only 2 absolutes there would be no room for shade and nuance, yet they cram all nuance and shade into black and white!

Truly they are unnatural children. There is no natural affection. They are bereft of any understanding of the complexities of human nature. And while despising correction, or having the ability to admit an error or misdeed, they immediately categorize all others as either good or evil all of which is determined by binary moral code, and none of it is real.

it's so reminiscent of the Hitler Youth and Young Pioneers, only these are socially incompetent and the others unfortunately were not.

03-lmfao Just a remarkable word salad here but I love the irony of an accusation of social incompetence in a completely ad hominem criticism that also invokes Godwin's Law.

He's been on a roll with that lately. Sad.
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(05-18-2022 12:14 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(05-18-2022 12:01 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(05-17-2022 11:50 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  
(05-17-2022 05:15 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(03-01-2022 04:38 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  "I stand with the Christians worldwide not the global bankers who are shoving godlessness and degeneracy in our face"

Really? What she said was poorly disguised antisemitism.

How so? Are you saying global bankers are Jewish -- and Jewish only -- and that "global banker" is synonymous with "Jew"?

Is this sarcasm? If so, well done.

If not, I'm gobsmacked. Using the term "global bankers" is ABSOLUTELY synonymous with "Jew"... for your average anti-Semite. And Rogers' juxtaposition alongside Christians makes it pretty clear how she's framing this. The bigoted belief that Jews run the world's financial systems - and I really can't believe I have to say this - is at least as old as the Rothschilds. And the stereotype of the greedy, evil, moneylending Jew was common enough for Shakespeare to put in the Merchant of Venice but let's face it - it's probably been around for much longer than that.

Am I really the only person who noticed this, or are you going to offer some explanation that Rogers used that term in a way that is somehow different from the way anti-Semites use it? Or... do you just not care?

No its not. 03-lmfao

Global banker is a global banker.

Good grief rinse the sand out

Thanks for the all caps school marm. You really told him

01-wingedeagle

How dare you rebuke and disabuse the children of victimization! Here's the irony, their world is only black and white yet they only see color and ethnicity. You would think in a world of only 2 absolutes there would be no room for shade and nuance, yet they cram all nuance and shade into black and white!

Truly they are unnatural children. There is no natural affection. They are bereft of any understanding of the complexities of human nature. And while despising correction, or having the ability to admit an error or misdeed, they immediately categorize all others as either good or evil all of which is determined by binary moral code, and none of it is real.

it's so reminiscent of the Hitler Youth and Young Pioneers, only these are socially incompetent and the others unfortunately were not.

Evidence of the workings of an uncomplicated mind, at best.
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(05-18-2022 01:38 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(05-18-2022 12:14 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(05-18-2022 12:01 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(05-17-2022 11:50 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  
(05-17-2022 05:15 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  How so? Are you saying global bankers are Jewish -- and Jewish only -- and that "global banker" is synonymous with "Jew"?

Is this sarcasm? If so, well done.

If not, I'm gobsmacked. Using the term "global bankers" is ABSOLUTELY synonymous with "Jew"... for your average anti-Semite. And Rogers' juxtaposition alongside Christians makes it pretty clear how she's framing this. The bigoted belief that Jews run the world's financial systems - and I really can't believe I have to say this - is at least as old as the Rothschilds. And the stereotype of the greedy, evil, moneylending Jew was common enough for Shakespeare to put in the Merchant of Venice but let's face it - it's probably been around for much longer than that.

Am I really the only person who noticed this, or are you going to offer some explanation that Rogers used that term in a way that is somehow different from the way anti-Semites use it? Or... do you just not care?

No its not. 03-lmfao

Global banker is a global banker.

Good grief rinse the sand out

Thanks for the all caps school marm. You really told him

01-wingedeagle

How dare you rebuke and disabuse the children of victimization! Here's the irony, their world is only black and white yet they only see color and ethnicity. You would think in a world of only 2 absolutes there would be no room for shade and nuance, yet they cram all nuance and shade into black and white!

Truly they are unnatural children. There is no natural affection. They are bereft of any understanding of the complexities of human nature. And while despising correction, or having the ability to admit an error or misdeed, they immediately categorize all others as either good or evil all of which is determined by binary moral code, and none of it is real.

it's so reminiscent of the Hitler Youth and Young Pioneers, only these are socially incompetent and the others unfortunately were not.

Evidence of the workings of an uncomplicated mind, at best.

Well let's simplify it to the core.

If it isn't taught the truth,
If it breaks the shop windows owned by specific ethnicities, and loots in organized gangs,
If it shouts down truth it doesn't want to hear,
If it believes lying is a legitimate means to an end,
If it bans books it doesn't agree with because those books expose their lies,
If it wants to exterminate its opposition,
If it stages events it blames on others in an effort to use fear to consolidate power,
If it is willing to destroy a nation in order to preserve itself,
And if everything evil it does it labels others as doing,
Then by God it's a damned Nazi, or worse, a Communist, which is just an inefficient Nazi!
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(05-18-2022 01:57 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(05-18-2022 01:38 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(05-18-2022 12:14 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(05-18-2022 12:01 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(05-17-2022 11:50 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  Is this sarcasm? If so, well done.

If not, I'm gobsmacked. Using the term "global bankers" is ABSOLUTELY synonymous with "Jew"... for your average anti-Semite. And Rogers' juxtaposition alongside Christians makes it pretty clear how she's framing this. The bigoted belief that Jews run the world's financial systems - and I really can't believe I have to say this - is at least as old as the Rothschilds. And the stereotype of the greedy, evil, moneylending Jew was common enough for Shakespeare to put in the Merchant of Venice but let's face it - it's probably been around for much longer than that.

Am I really the only person who noticed this, or are you going to offer some explanation that Rogers used that term in a way that is somehow different from the way anti-Semites use it? Or... do you just not care?

No its not. 03-lmfao

Global banker is a global banker.

Good grief rinse the sand out

Thanks for the all caps school marm. You really told him

01-wingedeagle

How dare you rebuke and disabuse the children of victimization! Here's the irony, their world is only black and white yet they only see color and ethnicity. You would think in a world of only 2 absolutes there would be no room for shade and nuance, yet they cram all nuance and shade into black and white!

Truly they are unnatural children. There is no natural affection. They are bereft of any understanding of the complexities of human nature. And while despising correction, or having the ability to admit an error or misdeed, they immediately categorize all others as either good or evil all of which is determined by binary moral code, and none of it is real.

it's so reminiscent of the Hitler Youth and Young Pioneers, only these are socially incompetent and the others unfortunately were not.

Evidence of the workings of an uncomplicated mind, at best.

Well let's simplify it to the core.

If it isn't taught the truth,
If it breaks the shop windows owned by specific ethnicities, and loots in organized gangs,
If it shouts down truth it doesn't want to hear,
If it believes lying is a legitimate means to an end,
If it bans books it doesn't agree with because those books expose their lies,
If it wants to exterminate its opposition,
If it stages events it blames on others in an effort to use fear to consolidate power,
If it is willing to destroy a nation in order to preserve itself,
And if everything evil it does it labels others as doing,
Then by God it's a damned Nazi, or worse, a Communist, which is just an inefficient Nazi!

1. If it gets ass-chapped over a movie that exposes election fraud.
2. If it cheers on a DOJ railroading an innocent man who did not lie, but cheers on a guilty man who was busted lying.
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(05-18-2022 01:57 PM)JRsec Wrote:  If it shouts down truth it doesn't want to hear,
If it believes lying is a legitimate means to an end,
If it wants to exterminate its opposition,
If it stages events it blames on others in an effort to use fear to consolidate power,
If it is willing to destroy a nation in order to preserve itself,
And if everything evil it does it labels others as doing,
Then by God it's a damned Nazi, or worse, a Communist, which is just an inefficient Nazi!

[Image: 2647.jpg?width=620&quality=85&am...6d9af15b2a]

Well done!
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(05-18-2022 02:30 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(05-18-2022 01:57 PM)JRsec Wrote:  If it shouts down truth it doesn't want to hear,
If it believes lying is a legitimate means to an end,
If it wants to exterminate its opposition,
If it stages events it blames on others in an effort to use fear to consolidate power,
If it is willing to destroy a nation in order to preserve itself,
And if everything evil it does it labels others as doing,
Then by God it's a damned Nazi, or worse, a Communist, which is just an inefficient Nazi!

[Image: 2647.jpg?width=620&quality=85&am...6d9af15b2a]

Well done!

Well done indeed Tom you outed yourself.
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(05-18-2022 01:57 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(05-18-2022 01:38 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(05-18-2022 12:14 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(05-18-2022 12:01 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(05-17-2022 11:50 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  Is this sarcasm? If so, well done.

If not, I'm gobsmacked. Using the term "global bankers" is ABSOLUTELY synonymous with "Jew"... for your average anti-Semite. And Rogers' juxtaposition alongside Christians makes it pretty clear how she's framing this. The bigoted belief that Jews run the world's financial systems - and I really can't believe I have to say this - is at least as old as the Rothschilds. And the stereotype of the greedy, evil, moneylending Jew was common enough for Shakespeare to put in the Merchant of Venice but let's face it - it's probably been around for much longer than that.

Am I really the only person who noticed this, or are you going to offer some explanation that Rogers used that term in a way that is somehow different from the way anti-Semites use it? Or... do you just not care?

No its not. 03-lmfao

Global banker is a global banker.

Good grief rinse the sand out

Thanks for the all caps school marm. You really told him

01-wingedeagle

How dare you rebuke and disabuse the children of victimization! Here's the irony, their world is only black and white yet they only see color and ethnicity. You would think in a world of only 2 absolutes there would be no room for shade and nuance, yet they cram all nuance and shade into black and white!

Truly they are unnatural children. There is no natural affection. They are bereft of any understanding of the complexities of human nature. And while despising correction, or having the ability to admit an error or misdeed, they immediately categorize all others as either good or evil all of which is determined by binary moral code, and none of it is real.

it's so reminiscent of the Hitler Youth and Young Pioneers, only these are socially incompetent and the others unfortunately were not.

Evidence of the workings of an uncomplicated mind, at best.

Well let's simplify it to the core.

If it isn't taught the truth,
If it breaks the shop windows owned by specific ethnicities, and loots in organized gangs,
If it shouts down truth it doesn't want to hear,
If it believes lying is a legitimate means to an end,
If it bans books it doesn't agree with because those books expose their lies,
If it wants to exterminate its opposition,
If it stages events it blames on others in an effort to use fear to consolidate power,
If it is willing to destroy a nation in order to preserve itself,
And if everything evil it does it labels others as doing,
Then by God it's a damned Nazi, or worse, a Communist, which is just an inefficient Nazi!

03-lmfao

true
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This dangerous lunatic is going to get some people hurt or killed if she isn't stopped -

"GOP Lawmaker Calls for Violence Against ‘Traitors’
November 15, 2022 at 9:34 am EST By Taegan Goddard 46 Comments

Midway through a white nationalist’s conference in Orlando last month, Arizona state Sen. Wendy Rogers ® drew applause calling for gruesome violence against “traitors” after excoriating critics of the “honorable” Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee and proponents of the “bioweapon” coronavirus vaccine, the Washington Post reports.

Said Rogers: “We need to build more gallows.”

She added that such a deadly fate would “make an example of these traitors who’ve betrayed our country.”"

https://politicalwire.com/2022/11/15/gop...-traitors/

Unfortunately, she was reelected last Tuesday with over 60% of the vote -

https://www.usatoday.com/elections/resul...e-AZ-3039/
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The vitriol has clearly gotten out of hand on both sides.

I admit I'm probably guilty of adding to it a bit with my comments about "evil bastards" and the like. But I really, really do think they are evil bastards, so I'm not sure how to address that.
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When one side pushes too far in their direction, the natural reaction is for some others to push the opposite way. If you want to dial down the extremism on the other side then you should encourage your politicians to dial down their own.
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(11-15-2022 11:04 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  When one side pushes too far in their direction, the natural reaction is for some others to push the opposite way. If you want to dial down the extremism on the other side then you should encourage your politicians to dial down their own.

Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

The problem is that in today's society, the reaction is no longer equal. It is hit back harder than you were just hit.
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