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RE: KSU @ CMU
(02-27-2022 10:21 PM)dannyb73 Wrote:  
(02-27-2022 10:06 PM)axeme Wrote:  
(02-27-2022 08:07 PM)burden Wrote:  They might have a new set of rules because of COVID and uneven schedules. Probably not posted (just like they keep the scoring structure on the Jacoby and Reese Cups secret). Playing devils advocate here’s the logic. Buffalo at 14-5 is behind Kent only because COVID prevented them from playing a game. Not their fault so since they are tied in the loss column and clearly would have won the tie break (beating Kent twice) had they won that game what the hell let’s give it to them. I don’t agree but I can see some twisted logic that leads to that conclusion.

That is insane. A team has won more games and has a higher winning percentage, and you give the edge to the team a half game back with fewer wins and a worse win %? In what world does that make any sense?
It’s not like it was impossible to make up that game with CMU. It was just inconvenient. The two schools could have insisted on playing. They had open dates. Hell, CMU is playing at Akron Tuesday, why not make the trip from there to Buffalo and play Wednesday or Thursday? Playing three games in four days is not that outrageous. We’re doing it so we can play 3 games in three days next week. The teams that played their full conference schedule shouldn’t be punished for it.

Like I said, THE MAC IS THE ONLY CONFERENCE IN AMERICA NOT USING WINNING PERCENTAGE WHEN IT COMES TO SETTLING SEEDING FOR TEAMS THAT COULDN'T PLAY ALL THEIR GAMES. Just shows the MAC commissioner and his cronies are the idiots.

Seems like you're as confused by the logic (or lack thereof) as we are, so not expecting you to answer this, just asking to ask... So winning percentage is what they're NOT using... What exactly ARE they using? I can't formulate a logical explanation how 14-5 can be put ahead of 15-5.
02-28-2022 12:53 PM
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RE: KSU @ CMU
(02-28-2022 12:53 PM)anti-zip Wrote:  
(02-27-2022 10:21 PM)dannyb73 Wrote:  
(02-27-2022 10:06 PM)axeme Wrote:  
(02-27-2022 08:07 PM)burden Wrote:  They might have a new set of rules because of COVID and uneven schedules. Probably not posted (just like they keep the scoring structure on the Jacoby and Reese Cups secret). Playing devils advocate here’s the logic. Buffalo at 14-5 is behind Kent only because COVID prevented them from playing a game. Not their fault so since they are tied in the loss column and clearly would have won the tie break (beating Kent twice) had they won that game what the hell let’s give it to them. I don’t agree but I can see some twisted logic that leads to that conclusion.

That is insane. A team has won more games and has a higher winning percentage, and you give the edge to the team a half game back with fewer wins and a worse win %? In what world does that make any sense?
It’s not like it was impossible to make up that game with CMU. It was just inconvenient. The two schools could have insisted on playing. They had open dates. Hell, CMU is playing at Akron Tuesday, why not make the trip from there to Buffalo and play Wednesday or Thursday? Playing three games in four days is not that outrageous. We’re doing it so we can play 3 games in three days next week. The teams that played their full conference schedule shouldn’t be punished for it.

Like I said, THE MAC IS THE ONLY CONFERENCE IN AMERICA NOT USING WINNING PERCENTAGE WHEN IT COMES TO SETTLING SEEDING FOR TEAMS THAT COULDN'T PLAY ALL THEIR GAMES. Just shows the MAC commissioner and his cronies are the idiots.

Seems like you're as confused by the logic (or lack thereof) as we are, so not expecting you to answer this, just asking to ask... So winning percentage is what they're NOT using... What exactly ARE they using? I can't formulate a logical explanation how 14-5 can be put ahead of 15-5.
They won’t be 14-5 ahead of us at 15-4. Again, it’s simple:
-We win both games we’re 16-4 and own all tie breakers (Toledo, Ohio and Buffalo).
-We beat NIU but lose to Buffalo we’re 15-5 to their 15-4 and behind them.
02-28-2022 01:18 PM
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Post: #63
RE: KSU @ CMU
(02-28-2022 01:18 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  
(02-28-2022 12:53 PM)anti-zip Wrote:  
(02-27-2022 10:21 PM)dannyb73 Wrote:  
(02-27-2022 10:06 PM)axeme Wrote:  
(02-27-2022 08:07 PM)burden Wrote:  They might have a new set of rules because of COVID and uneven schedules. Probably not posted (just like they keep the scoring structure on the Jacoby and Reese Cups secret). Playing devils advocate here’s the logic. Buffalo at 14-5 is behind Kent only because COVID prevented them from playing a game. Not their fault so since they are tied in the loss column and clearly would have won the tie break (beating Kent twice) had they won that game what the hell let’s give it to them. I don’t agree but I can see some twisted logic that leads to that conclusion.

That is insane. A team has won more games and has a higher winning percentage, and you give the edge to the team a half game back with fewer wins and a worse win %? In what world does that make any sense?
It’s not like it was impossible to make up that game with CMU. It was just inconvenient. The two schools could have insisted on playing. They had open dates. Hell, CMU is playing at Akron Tuesday, why not make the trip from there to Buffalo and play Wednesday or Thursday? Playing three games in four days is not that outrageous. We’re doing it so we can play 3 games in three days next week. The teams that played their full conference schedule shouldn’t be punished for it.

Like I said, THE MAC IS THE ONLY CONFERENCE IN AMERICA NOT USING WINNING PERCENTAGE WHEN IT COMES TO SETTLING SEEDING FOR TEAMS THAT COULDN'T PLAY ALL THEIR GAMES. Just shows the MAC commissioner and his cronies are the idiots.

Seems like you're as confused by the logic (or lack thereof) as we are, so not expecting you to answer this, just asking to ask... So winning percentage is what they're NOT using... What exactly ARE they using? I can't formulate a logical explanation how 14-5 can be put ahead of 15-5.
They won’t be 14-5 ahead of us at 15-4. Again, it’s simple:
-We win both games we’re 16-4 and own all tie breakers (Toledo, Ohio and Buffalo).
-We beat NIU but lose to Buffalo we’re 15-5 to their 15-4 and behind them.

Unless Toledo beats them and we beat NIU Tuesday. If that happens and they beat us, we’re 15-5, they are 14-5.
02-28-2022 03:12 PM
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Post: #64
RE: KSU @ CMU
(02-28-2022 12:53 PM)anti-zip Wrote:  
(02-27-2022 10:21 PM)dannyb73 Wrote:  
(02-27-2022 10:06 PM)axeme Wrote:  
(02-27-2022 08:07 PM)burden Wrote:  They might have a new set of rules because of COVID and uneven schedules. Probably not posted (just like they keep the scoring structure on the Jacoby and Reese Cups secret). Playing devils advocate here’s the logic. Buffalo at 14-5 is behind Kent only because COVID prevented them from playing a game. Not their fault so since they are tied in the loss column and clearly would have won the tie break (beating Kent twice) had they won that game what the hell let’s give it to them. I don’t agree but I can see some twisted logic that leads to that conclusion.

That is insane. A team has won more games and has a higher winning percentage, and you give the edge to the team a half game back with fewer wins and a worse win %? In what world does that make any sense?
It’s not like it was impossible to make up that game with CMU. It was just inconvenient. The two schools could have insisted on playing. They had open dates. Hell, CMU is playing at Akron Tuesday, why not make the trip from there to Buffalo and play Wednesday or Thursday? Playing three games in four days is not that outrageous. We’re doing it so we can play 3 games in three days next week. The teams that played their full conference schedule shouldn’t be punished for it.

Like I said, THE MAC IS THE ONLY CONFERENCE IN AMERICA NOT USING WINNING PERCENTAGE WHEN IT COMES TO SETTLING SEEDING FOR TEAMS THAT COULDN'T PLAY ALL THEIR GAMES. Just shows the MAC commissioner and his cronies are the idiots.

Seems like you're as confused by the logic (or lack thereof) as we are, so not expecting you to answer this, just asking to ask... So winning percentage is what they're NOT using... What exactly ARE they using? I can't formulate a logical explanation how 14-5 can be put ahead of 15-5.

I don't know their logic. I doubt they have anything logical to stand on. That said, if UB beats us they will leapfrog us if we finish with the same number of losses. Someone take some damn initiative around here and call the MAC office and find out why they are not using winning percentage. Lol.
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Post: #65
RE: KSU @ CMU
(02-28-2022 01:18 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  
(02-28-2022 12:53 PM)anti-zip Wrote:  
(02-27-2022 10:21 PM)dannyb73 Wrote:  
(02-27-2022 10:06 PM)axeme Wrote:  
(02-27-2022 08:07 PM)burden Wrote:  They might have a new set of rules because of COVID and uneven schedules. Probably not posted (just like they keep the scoring structure on the Jacoby and Reese Cups secret). Playing devils advocate here’s the logic. Buffalo at 14-5 is behind Kent only because COVID prevented them from playing a game. Not their fault so since they are tied in the loss column and clearly would have won the tie break (beating Kent twice) had they won that game what the hell let’s give it to them. I don’t agree but I can see some twisted logic that leads to that conclusion.

That is insane. A team has won more games and has a higher winning percentage, and you give the edge to the team a half game back with fewer wins and a worse win %? In what world does that make any sense?
It’s not like it was impossible to make up that game with CMU. It was just inconvenient. The two schools could have insisted on playing. They had open dates. Hell, CMU is playing at Akron Tuesday, why not make the trip from there to Buffalo and play Wednesday or Thursday? Playing three games in four days is not that outrageous. We’re doing it so we can play 3 games in three days next week. The teams that played their full conference schedule shouldn’t be punished for it.

Like I said, THE MAC IS THE ONLY CONFERENCE IN AMERICA NOT USING WINNING PERCENTAGE WHEN IT COMES TO SETTLING SEEDING FOR TEAMS THAT COULDN'T PLAY ALL THEIR GAMES. Just shows the MAC commissioner and his cronies are the idiots.

Seems like you're as confused by the logic (or lack thereof) as we are, so not expecting you to answer this, just asking to ask... So winning percentage is what they're NOT using... What exactly ARE they using? I can't formulate a logical explanation how 14-5 can be put ahead of 15-5.
They won’t be 14-5 ahead of us at 15-4. Again, it’s simple:
-We win both games we’re 16-4 and own all tie breakers (Toledo, Ohio and Buffalo).
-We beat NIU but lose to Buffalo we’re 15-5 to their 15-4 and behind them.

We would also be behind them if we are 15-5 and they are 14-5 (if they beat us). That is what is confusing everyone here.
(This post was last modified: 02-28-2022 03:53 PM by dannyb73.)
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RE: KSU @ CMU
(02-28-2022 03:52 PM)dannyb73 Wrote:  
(02-28-2022 01:18 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  
(02-28-2022 12:53 PM)anti-zip Wrote:  
(02-27-2022 10:21 PM)dannyb73 Wrote:  
(02-27-2022 10:06 PM)axeme Wrote:  That is insane. A team has won more games and has a higher winning percentage, and you give the edge to the team a half game back with fewer wins and a worse win %? In what world does that make any sense?
It’s not like it was impossible to make up that game with CMU. It was just inconvenient. The two schools could have insisted on playing. They had open dates. Hell, CMU is playing at Akron Tuesday, why not make the trip from there to Buffalo and play Wednesday or Thursday? Playing three games in four days is not that outrageous. We’re doing it so we can play 3 games in three days next week. The teams that played their full conference schedule shouldn’t be punished for it.

Like I said, THE MAC IS THE ONLY CONFERENCE IN AMERICA NOT USING WINNING PERCENTAGE WHEN IT COMES TO SETTLING SEEDING FOR TEAMS THAT COULDN'T PLAY ALL THEIR GAMES. Just shows the MAC commissioner and his cronies are the idiots.

Seems like you're as confused by the logic (or lack thereof) as we are, so not expecting you to answer this, just asking to ask... So winning percentage is what they're NOT using... What exactly ARE they using? I can't formulate a logical explanation how 14-5 can be put ahead of 15-5.
They won’t be 14-5 ahead of us at 15-4. Again, it’s simple:
-We win both games we’re 16-4 and own all tie breakers (Toledo, Ohio and Buffalo).
-We beat NIU but lose to Buffalo we’re 15-5 to their 15-4 and behind them.

We would also be behind them if we are 15-5 and they are 14-5 (if they beat us). That is what is confusing everyone here.


Win both games this week , and hope Buffalo beats Toledo. Then we hold all tie breakers. Just Win !!! Go Flashes
02-28-2022 06:31 PM
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RE: KSU @ CMU
(02-28-2022 06:31 PM)Older and Older Wrote:  
(02-28-2022 03:52 PM)dannyb73 Wrote:  
(02-28-2022 01:18 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  
(02-28-2022 12:53 PM)anti-zip Wrote:  
(02-27-2022 10:21 PM)dannyb73 Wrote:  Like I said, THE MAC IS THE ONLY CONFERENCE IN AMERICA NOT USING WINNING PERCENTAGE WHEN IT COMES TO SETTLING SEEDING FOR TEAMS THAT COULDN'T PLAY ALL THEIR GAMES. Just shows the MAC commissioner and his cronies are the idiots.

Seems like you're as confused by the logic (or lack thereof) as we are, so not expecting you to answer this, just asking to ask... So winning percentage is what they're NOT using... What exactly ARE they using? I can't formulate a logical explanation how 14-5 can be put ahead of 15-5.
They won’t be 14-5 ahead of us at 15-4. Again, it’s simple:
-We win both games we’re 16-4 and own all tie breakers (Toledo, Ohio and Buffalo).
-We beat NIU but lose to Buffalo we’re 15-5 to their 15-4 and behind them.

We would also be behind them if we are 15-5 and they are 14-5 (if they beat us). That is what is confusing everyone here.


Win both games this week , and hope Buffalo beats Toledo. Then we hold all tie breakers. Just Win !!! Go Flashes

^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^
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RE: KSU @ CMU
….and enjoy the convo leading up to, during and after the games.
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RE: KSU @ CMU
Yeah, that goes without saying: let’s run this thing to 15, and see who we can beat in the NCAA.

Doesn’t make the MAC any less idiotic, unfortunately.
02-28-2022 08:42 PM
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Idiotic or chaotic?
02-28-2022 08:44 PM
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RE: KSU @ CMU
(02-28-2022 08:44 PM)fallsdog Wrote:  Idiotic or chaotic?

Both
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