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RE: Liberty Bowl Stadium
(02-18-2022 03:08 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(02-18-2022 01:18 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  I think the fact that the Tigers are actually a college team (a real state college with a campus, students, teachers, dorms and facilities) gets lost on some of you guys. Arlington?

Franky why is there even a discussion of a new stadium related to the city or region at all? There is no demand or need for a new municipal stadium - none. The University of Memphis is the only football team needing a stadium & the university has a location that isn't going to move. If there is a need for a new stadium, it is a university need not a city or regional need. Time for a cash-strapped city to quit pouring $$ in an old stadium in order to enable a private entity to host a minor bowl game & another game that is likely going to Birmingham. And, at the same time, it's time for the university to invest in its FB program if it wants that program to grow.

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RE: Liberty Bowl Stadium
(02-18-2022 03:10 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  
(02-18-2022 03:08 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(02-18-2022 01:18 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  I think the fact that the Tigers are actually a college team (a real state college with a campus, students, teachers, dorms and facilities) gets lost on some of you guys. Arlington?

Franky why is there even a discussion of a new stadium related to the city or region at all? There is no demand or need for a new municipal stadium - none. The University of Memphis is the only football team needing a stadium & the university has a location that isn't going to move. If there is a need for a new stadium, it is a university need not a city or regional need. Time for a cash-strapped city to quit pouring $$ in an old stadium in order to enable a private entity to host a minor bowl game & another game that is likely going to Birmingham. And, at the same time, it's time for the university to invest in its FB program if it wants that program to grow.

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Hard to argue with that.
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RE: Liberty Bowl Stadium
(02-18-2022 09:25 AM)Unionman76 Wrote:  the west campus

on campus stadium

They are going to dismantle the indoor practice facility and move it to the Liberty Bowl property.
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RE: Liberty Bowl Stadium
Sounds like they're gonna keep polishing that turd of a stadium. Get ready for some exciting AAC leftovers football.
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RE: Liberty Bowl Stadium
(02-18-2022 01:28 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  
(02-18-2022 01:18 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  I think the fact that the Tigers are actually a college team (a real state college with a campus, students, teachers, dorms and facilities) gets lost on some of you guys. Arlington?

Some people here get lost between waking up and finding the bathroom.

Wait, there's a bathroom??
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RE: Liberty Bowl Stadium
(02-18-2022 05:55 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(02-18-2022 01:28 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  
(02-18-2022 01:18 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  I think the fact that the Tigers are actually a college team (a real state college with a campus, students, teachers, dorms and facilities) gets lost on some of you guys. Arlington?

Some people here get lost between waking up and finding the bathroom.

Wait, there's a bathroom??
Depends.
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RE: Liberty Bowl Stadium
(02-18-2022 07:36 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  
(02-18-2022 05:55 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(02-18-2022 01:28 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  
(02-18-2022 01:18 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  I think the fact that the Tigers are actually a college team (a real state college with a campus, students, teachers, dorms and facilities) gets lost on some of you guys. Arlington?

Some people here get lost between waking up and finding the bathroom.

Wait, there's a bathroom??
Depends.

I see what you did there...
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RE: Liberty Bowl Stadium
(02-18-2022 09:39 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(02-18-2022 07:36 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  
(02-18-2022 05:55 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(02-18-2022 01:28 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  
(02-18-2022 01:18 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  I think the fact that the Tigers are actually a college team (a real state college with a campus, students, teachers, dorms and facilities) gets lost on some of you guys. Arlington?

Some people here get lost between waking up and finding the bathroom.

Wait, there's a bathroom??
Depends.

I see what you did there...

I guess it must have leaked then.... 03-puke
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RE: Liberty Bowl Stadium
(02-18-2022 10:22 AM)k2tigers Wrote:  or just do like Nashville is going to do, and build an entirely new stadium

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/titan...it-a-snag/

If the state is going to help with a billion dollar+ stadium in Nashville to replace a 20 year old stadium, which you know they will, the university and Memphians need to demand state support for a new stadium on campus.
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RE: Liberty Bowl Stadium
(02-19-2022 09:18 AM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  
(02-18-2022 10:22 AM)k2tigers Wrote:  or just do like Nashville is going to do, and build an entirely new stadium

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/titan...it-a-snag/

If the state is going to help with a billion dollar+ stadium in Nashville to replace a 20 year old stadium, which you know they will, the university and Memphians need to demand state support for a new stadium on campus.

I don’t think the University wants an on campus stadium. Studies have proven it doable, yet the school has never publicly approached the state or lobbied for funding. There appears to be a very real contingent within our leadership who oppose an on campus facility & prefer the status quo, even though status quo ensures we remain in Conference America.
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RE: Liberty Bowl Stadium
(02-19-2022 09:18 AM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  
(02-18-2022 10:22 AM)k2tigers Wrote:  or just do like Nashville is going to do, and build an entirely new stadium

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/titan...it-a-snag/

If the state is going to help with a billion dollar+ stadium in Nashville to replace a 20 year old stadium, which you know they will, the university and Memphians need to demand state support for a new stadium on campus.

Unfortunately it would like be the same as all previous funding opportunities for a university owned facility in Memphis. The city gets involved to control & receive the funding & the university need become secondary. The amazing thing in this case is that the city has no need for a stadium - you don't build stadiums for 1-2 events per year. That's why the university must insist on taking ownership of any stadium initiative with the idea that the university could then accommodate any city needs. But if history is a guide the university needs & priority will be overridden by the city to the detriment of the university.
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RE: Liberty Bowl Stadium
(02-19-2022 10:51 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(02-19-2022 09:18 AM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  
(02-18-2022 10:22 AM)k2tigers Wrote:  or just do like Nashville is going to do, and build an entirely new stadium

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/titan...it-a-snag/

If the state is going to help with a billion dollar+ stadium in Nashville to replace a 20 year old stadium, which you know they will, the university and Memphians need to demand state support for a new stadium on campus.

Unfortunately it would like be the same as all previous funding opportunities for a university owned facility in Memphis. The city gets involved to control & receive the funding & the university need become secondary. The amazing thing in this case is that the city has no need for a stadium - you don't build stadiums for 1-2 events per year. That's why the university must insist on taking ownership of any stadium initiative with the idea that the university could then accommodate any city needs. But if history is a guide the university needs & priority will be overridden by the city to the detriment of the university.

The mayor has offered the stadium to the university. I'm guessing what we will hear from the AD in the coming months is the direction the university will take. A firm has submitted recommendations from a study done back in November, but that has not been shared.
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RE: Liberty Bowl Stadium
(02-19-2022 11:03 AM)tigerfan39 Wrote:  
(02-19-2022 10:51 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(02-19-2022 09:18 AM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  
(02-18-2022 10:22 AM)k2tigers Wrote:  or just do like Nashville is going to do, and build an entirely new stadium

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/titan...it-a-snag/

If the state is going to help with a billion dollar+ stadium in Nashville to replace a 20 year old stadium, which you know they will, the university and Memphians need to demand state support for a new stadium on campus.

Unfortunately it would like be the same as all previous funding opportunities for a university owned facility in Memphis. The city gets involved to control & receive the funding & the university need become secondary. The amazing thing in this case is that the city has no need for a stadium - you don't build stadiums for 1-2 events per year. That's why the university must insist on taking ownership of any stadium initiative with the idea that the university could then accommodate any city needs. But if history is a guide the university needs & priority will be overridden by the city to the detriment of the university.

The mayor has offered the stadium to the university. I'm guessing what we will hear from the AD in the coming months is the direction the university will take. A firm has submitted recommendations from a study done back in November, but that has not been shared.

The problem with renovating an old stadium is its still an old stadium but with some new features. Recurring maintenance will still reflect an old stadium. An a renovation that would provide any significant improvements would be a nice down-payment on a new stadium with better accommodations & lower maintenance costs. Just the sort of thing Nashville is realizing now even though their current stadium is much newer than the LB. So the university will get saddled with the increasing upkeep expenditures to keep the LB viable. Probably not a good bargain for the university or for the city if either attempt to maintain the LB long term.
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RE: Liberty Bowl Stadium
(02-19-2022 02:51 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(02-19-2022 11:03 AM)tigerfan39 Wrote:  
(02-19-2022 10:51 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(02-19-2022 09:18 AM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  
(02-18-2022 10:22 AM)k2tigers Wrote:  or just do like Nashville is going to do, and build an entirely new stadium

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/titan...it-a-snag/

If the state is going to help with a billion dollar+ stadium in Nashville to replace a 20 year old stadium, which you know they will, the university and Memphians need to demand state support for a new stadium on campus.

Unfortunately it would like be the same as all previous funding opportunities for a university owned facility in Memphis. The city gets involved to control & receive the funding & the university need become secondary. The amazing thing in this case is that the city has no need for a stadium - you don't build stadiums for 1-2 events per year. That's why the university must insist on taking ownership of any stadium initiative with the idea that the university could then accommodate any city needs. But if history is a guide the university needs & priority will be overridden by the city to the detriment of the university.

The mayor has offered the stadium to the university. I'm guessing what we will hear from the AD in the coming months is the direction the university will take. A firm has submitted recommendations from a study done back in November, but that has not been shared.

The problem with renovating an old stadium is its still an old stadium but with some new features. Recurring maintenance will still reflect an old stadium. An a renovation that would provide any significant improvements would be a nice down-payment on a new stadium with better accommodations & lower maintenance costs. Just the sort of thing Nashville is realizing now even though their current stadium is much newer than the LB. So the university will get saddled with the increasing upkeep expenditures to keep the LB viable. Probably not a good bargain for the university or for the city if either attempt to maintain the LB long term.

sez every stadium in the sec
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RE: Liberty Bowl Stadium
(02-19-2022 03:23 PM)Unionman76 Wrote:  
(02-19-2022 02:51 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(02-19-2022 11:03 AM)tigerfan39 Wrote:  
(02-19-2022 10:51 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(02-19-2022 09:18 AM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  If the state is going to help with a billion dollar+ stadium in Nashville to replace a 20 year old stadium, which you know they will, the university and Memphians need to demand state support for a new stadium on campus.

Unfortunately it would like be the same as all previous funding opportunities for a university owned facility in Memphis. The city gets involved to control & receive the funding & the university need become secondary. The amazing thing in this case is that the city has no need for a stadium - you don't build stadiums for 1-2 events per year. That's why the university must insist on taking ownership of any stadium initiative with the idea that the university could then accommodate any city needs. But if history is a guide the university needs & priority will be overridden by the city to the detriment of the university.

The mayor has offered the stadium to the university. I'm guessing what we will hear from the AD in the coming months is the direction the university will take. A firm has submitted recommendations from a study done back in November, but that has not been shared.

The problem with renovating an old stadium is its still an old stadium but with some new features. Recurring maintenance will still reflect an old stadium. An a renovation that would provide any significant improvements would be a nice down-payment on a new stadium with better accommodations & lower maintenance costs. Just the sort of thing Nashville is realizing now even though their current stadium is much newer than the LB. So the university will get saddled with the increasing upkeep expenditures to keep the LB viable. Probably not a good bargain for the university or for the city if either attempt to maintain the LB long term.

sez every stadium in the sec

SEC has money to burn. SEC stadiums are On Campus providing few other alternatives. TX A&M renovated to the tune of $300M+. Not much of a comparison or equivalent to our circumstances.
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RE: Liberty Bowl Stadium
The city should pay the university a few million to take it off their hands
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RE: Liberty Bowl Stadium
Dr. Rudd has clarified for those that didn't understand.


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I unintentionally offered a difficult to understand quote in the CA yesterday. Here it is with the critical word:
“It’s not JUST about a new stadium or a dramatically improved LB. It’s about sustainable investment in our athletic programs to join a power conference.”
Go Tigers.
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(02-19-2022 04:55 PM)tigerfan39 Wrote:  Dr. Rudd has clarified for those that didn't understand.


Dr. M. David Rudd
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I unintentionally offered a difficult to understand quote in the CA yesterday. Here it is with the critical word:
“It’s not JUST about a new stadium or a dramatically improved LB. It’s about sustainable investment in our athletic programs to join a power conference.”
Go Tigers.

Hmmm... Still does nothing to add any clarity regarding whether they want a new stadium or plan to put lipstick on a pig. So it goes.

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RE: Liberty Bowl Stadium
(02-19-2022 03:57 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(02-19-2022 03:23 PM)Unionman76 Wrote:  
(02-19-2022 02:51 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(02-19-2022 11:03 AM)tigerfan39 Wrote:  
(02-19-2022 10:51 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Unfortunately it would like be the same as all previous funding opportunities for a university owned facility in Memphis. The city gets involved to control & receive the funding & the university need become secondary. The amazing thing in this case is that the city has no need for a stadium - you don't build stadiums for 1-2 events per year. That's why the university must insist on taking ownership of any stadium initiative with the idea that the university could then accommodate any city needs. But if history is a guide the university needs & priority will be overridden by the city to the detriment of the university.

The mayor has offered the stadium to the university. I'm guessing what we will hear from the AD in the coming months is the direction the university will take. A firm has submitted recommendations from a study done back in November, but that has not been shared.

The problem with renovating an old stadium is its still an old stadium but with some new features. Recurring maintenance will still reflect an old stadium. An a renovation that would provide any significant improvements would be a nice down-payment on a new stadium with better accommodations & lower maintenance costs. Just the sort of thing Nashville is realizing now even though their current stadium is much newer than the LB. So the university will get saddled with the increasing upkeep expenditures to keep the LB viable. Probably not a good bargain for the university or for the city if either attempt to maintain the LB long term.

sez every stadium in the sec

SEC has money to burn. SEC stadiums are On Campus providing few other alternatives. TX A&M renovated to the tune of $300M+. Not much of a comparison or equivalent to our circumstances.

i have been to 4 sec stadiums in the last few years
and they are all **** holes

(ut, missouri, ole miss, miss state)

i did not sit in the sky boxes or press boxes (that is where they invest)
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RE: Liberty Bowl Stadium
the best new stadium i have been to is at houston

thats the correct size and design

(in conference i have been to all but ecu and temple)
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