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6 assist and 3 turns for the game
02-24-2022 11:13 PM
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(02-24-2022 11:13 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  6 assist and 3 turns for the game

Average at best. I sure wish he was even a minor offensive threat.
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(02-24-2022 11:13 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  6 assist and 3 turns for the game

Not as bad as I thought it was ... still made some perplexing plays in the game
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(02-25-2022 03:03 AM)mempho_to_diego Wrote:  
(02-24-2022 11:13 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  6 assist and 3 turns for the game

Not as bad as I thought it was ... still made some perplexing plays in the game

There were several plays he screwed up, just didn't hit the stat sheet. He is not a good point guard.
02-25-2022 10:44 AM
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(02-25-2022 10:44 AM)cmt Wrote:  
(02-25-2022 03:03 AM)mempho_to_diego Wrote:  
(02-24-2022 11:13 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  6 assist and 3 turns for the game

Not as bad as I thought it was ... still made some perplexing plays in the game

There were several plays he screwed up, just didn't hit the stat sheet. He is not a good point guard.

Everybody screwed up last night, even Duren threw bad passes or had the ball stripped under the basket. Did you watch the game?
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Lomax should be a 15 minute per game backup PG. He would thrive in that role. The fact is that we do not have another PG on the team. Tyler can be a PG but he is just as up and down as Lomax, his highs just tend to be much higher.

Lomax is a square peg being forced into a round hole by having to burden a larger responsibility than his talent level is suited for. That falls on coaching and recruiting...
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Tyler's liabilities on defense preclude him from starting as the point guard. Players can shoot over him as if he weren't even there.
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(02-25-2022 11:40 AM)msu35 Wrote:  Tyler's liabilities on defense preclude him from starting as the point guard. Players can shoot over him as if he weren't even there.

That holds true for both of them. Which is my point, we do not have a starting guard on the roster so Lomax wins by default.
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Lomax is stronger defensively, that is a fact. Surprised you would imply they're equivalent. Averages:

Lomax
0.8 OR, 2.3 DR, 0.3 BLK, 1.4 STL

Harris
0.3 OR, 1.3 DR, 0.0 BLK, 0.6 STL

This doesn't factor in the fact that Harris's lack of height (3" shorter than Lomax) has people easily shooting over him far more often than Lomax.
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(02-25-2022 11:58 AM)msu35 Wrote:  Lomax is stronger defensively, that is a fact. Surprised you would imply they're equivalent. Averages:

Lomax
0.8 OR, 2.3 DR, 0.3 BLK, 1.4 STL

Harris
0.3 OR, 1.3 DR, 0.0 BLK, 0.6 STL

This doesn't factor in the fact that Harris's lack of height (3" shorter than Lomax) has people easily shooting over him far more often than Lomax.

wtf do those stats have to do with anything?

Neither one of them seems able to stay between the ball and the basket. They are both too busy swatting at the ball, usually swatting at the air, then watching their man's ass as he dribbles right past them.
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(02-25-2022 12:03 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(02-25-2022 11:58 AM)msu35 Wrote:  Lomax is stronger defensively, that is a fact. Surprised you would imply they're equivalent. Averages:

Lomax
0.8 OR, 2.3 DR, 0.3 BLK, 1.4 STL

Harris
0.3 OR, 1.3 DR, 0.0 BLK, 0.6 STL

This doesn't factor in the fact that Harris's lack of height (3" shorter than Lomax) has people easily shooting over him far more often than Lomax.

wtf do those stats have to do with anything?

Neither one of them seems able to stay between the ball and the basket. They are both too busy swatting at the ball, usually swatting at the air, then watching their man's ass as he dribbles right past them.

My point was their defensive performance is not equivalent, which is easily proven with data.
02-25-2022 12:07 PM
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(02-25-2022 03:03 AM)mempho_to_diego Wrote:  
(02-24-2022 11:13 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  6 assist and 3 turns for the game

Not as bad as I thought it was ... still made some perplexing plays in the game

I question whoever our statistician is. And not just with Lomax. Duren’s rebounding total was off imo
02-25-2022 02:26 PM
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(02-25-2022 03:03 AM)mempho_to_diego Wrote:  
(02-24-2022 11:13 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  6 assist and 3 turns for the game

Not as bad as I thought it was ... still made some perplexing plays in the game

He's who he is at this point and unfortunately our best option at PG. The offense looks worse generally with Tyler as the PG.
02-25-2022 02:32 PM
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Frankly I see little difference between Lomax & Harris. Harris much more productive on offense & Lomax having the edge on defense. I'd actually like to see LQ play some more PG given Lomax really doesn't initiate the offense, he simply gets the ball across half court & passes to a wing. If LQ could accomplish that & get Minott more minutes, it could be very productive in some situations.
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Would love to see some of these players learn how to use a bounce pass to get to Duren. It is always those soft lobs over defenders.
02-25-2022 03:21 PM
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(02-25-2022 03:01 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Frankly I see little difference between Lomax & Harris. Harris much more productive on offense & Lomax having the edge on defense. I'd actually like to see LQ play some more PG given Lomax really doesn't initiate the offense, he simply gets the ball across half court & passes to a wing. If LQ could accomplish that & get Minott more minutes, it could be very productive in some situations.

In recent games, the offense looks more cohesive with Lomax in the game. The offense usually bogs down and ball movement isn’t the same if Harris is the lone PG unless he’s hitting shots.
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(02-25-2022 12:03 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(02-25-2022 11:58 AM)msu35 Wrote:  Lomax is stronger defensively, that is a fact. Surprised you would imply they're equivalent. Averages:

Lomax
0.8 OR, 2.3 DR, 0.3 BLK, 1.4 STL

Harris
0.3 OR, 1.3 DR, 0.0 BLK, 0.6 STL

This doesn't factor in the fact that Harris's lack of height (3" shorter than Lomax) has people easily shooting over him far more often than Lomax.

wtf do those stats have to do with anything?

Neither one of them seems able to stay between the ball and the basket. They are both too busy swatting at the ball, usually swatting at the air, then watching their man's ass as he dribbles right past them.

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(02-25-2022 04:14 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-25-2022 12:03 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(02-25-2022 11:58 AM)msu35 Wrote:  Lomax is stronger defensively, that is a fact. Surprised you would imply they're equivalent. Averages:

Lomax
0.8 OR, 2.3 DR, 0.3 BLK, 1.4 STL

Harris
0.3 OR, 1.3 DR, 0.0 BLK, 0.6 STL

This doesn't factor in the fact that Harris's lack of height (3" shorter than Lomax) has people easily shooting over him far more often than Lomax.

wtf do those stats have to do with anything?

Neither one of them seems able to stay between the ball and the basket. They are both too busy swatting at the ball, usually swatting at the air, then watching their man's ass as he dribbles right past them.

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You never miss a chance to show how ignorant you are about basketball. It is hilarious to me.. Stick to hockey, but I am sure you are just as ignorant about hockey as you are basketball.
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(02-25-2022 04:25 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(02-25-2022 04:14 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-25-2022 12:03 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(02-25-2022 11:58 AM)msu35 Wrote:  Lomax is stronger defensively, that is a fact. Surprised you would imply they're equivalent. Averages:

Lomax
0.8 OR, 2.3 DR, 0.3 BLK, 1.4 STL

Harris
0.3 OR, 1.3 DR, 0.0 BLK, 0.6 STL

This doesn't factor in the fact that Harris's lack of height (3" shorter than Lomax) has people easily shooting over him far more often than Lomax.

wtf do those stats have to do with anything?

Neither one of them seems able to stay between the ball and the basket. They are both too busy swatting at the ball, usually swatting at the air, then watching their man's ass as he dribbles right past them.

03-lmfao01-wingedeagle

You never miss a chance to show how ignorant you are about basketball. It is hilarious to me.. Stick to hockey, but I am sure you are just as ignorant about hockey as you are basketball.

Another insightful post from you demonstrating your lack of reading comprehension skills. Hear that? It's the pea rattling around in your head. Aren't you the same idiot that thought I was implying Penny needed eight years before a comparison could be made with Cal?

If you don't understand using data to compare the performance disparity between two players, you're beneath contempt. Now go back to huffing gas.
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(02-25-2022 12:03 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(02-25-2022 11:58 AM)msu35 Wrote:  Lomax is stronger defensively, that is a fact. Surprised you would imply they're equivalent. Averages:

Lomax
0.8 OR, 2.3 DR, 0.3 BLK, 1.4 STL

Harris
0.3 OR, 1.3 DR, 0.0 BLK, 0.6 STL

This doesn't factor in the fact that Harris's lack of height (3" shorter than Lomax) has people easily shooting over him far more often than Lomax.

wtf do those stats have to do with anything?

Neither one of them seems able to stay between the ball and the basket. They are both too busy swatting at the ball, usually swatting at the air, then watching their man's ass as he dribbles right past them.

Unfortunately that's a problem for several guys (including Lomax & Harris), almost to the point that I think it's taught to go for the steal more than emphasizing to stay in front of the man guarded. I think this is a key reason we can't beat SMU, it plays right into their game.
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