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(02-15-2022 09:50 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(02-14-2022 06:17 PM)bcat1997 Wrote:  Cheap asses, should have been $6M minimum just to show respect.

Consider the whole....

He got a $2M bump.

Assistants pool got a $2M bump.

The permanent indoor practice facility is est. $80M investment and is facilities priority #1.

We're not P5 revenue yet. His contract can be restructured again in a few years.

Wow
$80M. I’ve not been following things closely but I guess that practice facility is pretty high-end. Compare that to how much we spent on the Fifth Third renovation and football renovation and I’m just shocked at that price.

If it costs $80 million, I bet we charge the Bengals more than $5,000 per day.

(02-17-2022 12:06 AM)ZCat Wrote:  

(02-15-2022 09:50 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(02-14-2022 06:17 PM)bcat1997 Wrote:  Cheap asses, should have been $6M minimum just to show respect.

Consider the whole....

He got a $2M bump.

Assistants pool got a $2M bump.

The permanent indoor practice facility is est. $80M investment and is facilities priority #1.

We're not P5 revenue yet. His contract can be restructured again in a few years.

Wow
$80M. I’ve not been following things closely but I guess that practice facility is pretty high-end. Compare that to how much we spent on the Fifth Third renovation and football renovation and I’m just shocked at that price.

IIRC, what they've been discussing is an all-encompassing football facility; not just practices fields but a dedicated weight room, locker room, offices, nutritional center, etc. Essentially, taking everything they already have at the Lindner Center and building it brand new in the spot of the Sheakley Athletics Center. Considering how everything built at UC is always on the more-costly end, I wouldn't be surprised if that $80M goes up by several million more dollars when it's all said and done.

Saw a bunch of recent IPF costs:

Duke $32
MOH $34
MIA FL $40
SC $50
USC $70
OR $80
FL $85

With the record inflation at 7.5% and higher in construction in could reach $100

Fickell is a great coach!

(02-17-2022 12:12 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  If it costs $80 million, I bet we charge the Bengals more than $5,000 per day.

When the new UC IPF is completed, the Bengals will probably buy the dirty gray bubble from UC and move it downtown as their "new" IPF.

(02-17-2022 07:57 AM)doss2 Wrote:  Saw a bunch of recent IPF costs:

Duke $32
MOH $34
MIA FL $40
SC $50
USC $70
OR $80
FL $85

With the record inflation at 7.5% and higher in construction in could reach $100

Yeah, plus the logistics and MOBs on that site will make it even more difficult to complete...in construction, difficulty of the job directly correlates to cost to end client.

(02-17-2022 08:47 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-17-2022 07:57 AM)doss2 Wrote:  Saw a bunch of recent IPF costs:

Duke $32
MOH $34
MIA FL $40
SC $50
USC $70
OR $80
FL $85

With the record inflation at 7.5% and higher in construction in could reach $100

Yeah, plus the logistics and MOBs on that site will make it even more difficult to complete...in construction, difficulty of the job directly correlates to cost to end client.

For sure; trying to shoehorn a facility into a tight footprint on the hilltop has to be more costly than grabbing a couple of open acres on a sprawling campus and staging a major construction project.

(02-17-2022 08:38 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(02-17-2022 12:12 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  If it costs $80 million, I bet we charge the Bengals more than $5,000 per day.

When the new UC IPF is completed, the Bengals will probably buy the dirty gray bubble from UC and move it downtown as their "new" IPF.

And they will want it cheap.

(02-16-2022 08:06 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(02-15-2022 11:13 PM)natibeast2.0 Wrote:  

(02-15-2022 09:50 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(02-14-2022 06:17 PM)bcat1997 Wrote:  Cheap asses, should have been $6M minimum just to show respect.

Consider the whole....

He got a $2M bump.

Assistants pool got a $2M bump.

The permanent indoor practice facility is est. $80M investment and is facilities priority #1.

We're not P5 revenue yet. His contract can be restructured again in a few years.

Exactly on that last point. I would have preferred 5.5-6mil for now but I mean cmon 5 mil to live in a solid city with low cost of living is a ton. It’s not like he’s in the boonies (pay them to go/stay there) or LA. And most of us know half the coaches that got those insane contracts this past year would be canned in no time if these schools can justify or even afford it. Those were ridiculous. Only USC made any sense to me with current landscape and I think they got their guy that can win there.

Either way it give UC some room to keep raising in future years I would guess without knowing the departments finances. As noted, we are hitting his top priorities and he appears determined to keep growing the program which is unreal really.

Bottom line, Fickell wants to stay here and apparently feels valued and appreciated by this combination of a seven figure raise, a seven figure increase in the assistant pool, and the progress on an eight figure IPF. He could get a $7-8 million offer tomorrow and leave, but that doesn't seem to be in his character.

We can only speculate that he is held here by something more than money--love of the university/city, home, and reasonable proximity to the extended family in Ohio. He's proving to be the program builder many of us longed for after watching rising stars in the profession rip our hearts out--in some cases, just hours after pledging their allegiance to UC. He is demonstrating character traits that will continue to endear him.

It's the best of times for Bearcat football fans who deserve much better than the hand we were often dealt in the past. Carpe diem.

He's proving to be the program builder many of us longed for after watching rising stars in the profession rip our hearts out--in some cases, just hours after pledging their allegiance to UC.

Exactly why you pay him what he's worth, not low ball him. If he's happy great, but I wouldn't have taken the chance and found the money to minimum $6M. In the NFL, you lock up your superstar QB. In college, you lock up your superstar head coach.

(02-17-2022 10:03 PM)bcat1997 Wrote:  

(02-16-2022 08:06 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(02-15-2022 11:13 PM)natibeast2.0 Wrote:  

(02-15-2022 09:50 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(02-14-2022 06:17 PM)bcat1997 Wrote:  Cheap asses, should have been $6M minimum just to show respect.

Consider the whole....

He got a $2M bump.

Assistants pool got a $2M bump.

The permanent indoor practice facility is est. $80M investment and is facilities priority #1.

We're not P5 revenue yet. His contract can be restructured again in a few years.

Exactly on that last point. I would have preferred 5.5-6mil for now but I mean cmon 5 mil to live in a solid city with low cost of living is a ton. It’s not like he’s in the boonies (pay them to go/stay there) or LA. And most of us know half the coaches that got those insane contracts this past year would be canned in no time if these schools can justify or even afford it. Those were ridiculous. Only USC made any sense to me with current landscape and I think they got their guy that can win there.

Either way it give UC some room to keep raising in future years I would guess without knowing the departments finances. As noted, we are hitting his top priorities and he appears determined to keep growing the program which is unreal really.

Bottom line, Fickell wants to stay here and apparently feels valued and appreciated by this combination of a seven figure raise, a seven figure increase in the assistant pool, and the progress on an eight figure IPF. He could get a $7-8 million offer tomorrow and leave, but that doesn't seem to be in his character.

We can only speculate that he is held here by something more than money--love of the university/city, home, and reasonable proximity to the extended family in Ohio. He's proving to be the program builder many of us longed for after watching rising stars in the profession rip our hearts out--in some cases, just hours after pledging their allegiance to UC. He is demonstrating character traits that will continue to endear him.

It's the best of times for Bearcat football fans who deserve much better than the hand we were often dealt in the past. Carpe diem.

He's proving to be the program builder many of us longed for after watching rising stars in the profession rip our hearts out--in some cases, just hours after pledging their allegiance to UC.

Exactly why you pay him what he's worth, not low ball him. If he's happy great, but I wouldn't have taken the chance and found the money to minimum $6M. In the NFL, you lock up your superstar QB. In college, you lock up your superstar head coach.

Except for short time TX and OK Lukeis the top of B12.

The *NEW* Big XII is in great shape from a Coaching standpoint for the next few years.

(02-18-2022 10:11 AM)Crewdogz Wrote:  The *NEW* Big XII is in great shape from a Coaching standpoint for the next few years.

Impressive graphic.

In some ways, I think the B12 is in better "health" for football than much of the ACC or Pac 12. And we know B12 basketball should remain among the top two or three P5 conferences.

Fans taking pot shots at the B12 as no longer P5 worthy, likely reflect their own personal feelings of inadequacy as followers of teams perpetually mired in the cellar of their preferred conference. To me, the SEC reigns supreme above all others; the B10 is a bit of a distant second and the remaining three slug it out year to year to place a team in the CFP.

(02-18-2022 10:59 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(02-18-2022 10:11 AM)Crewdogz Wrote:  The *NEW* Big XII is in great shape from a Coaching standpoint for the next few years.

Impressive graphic.

In some ways, I think the B12 is in better "health" for football than much of the ACC or Pac 12. And we know B12 basketball should remain among the top two or three P5 conferences.

Fans taking pot shots at the B12 as no longer P5 worthy, likely reflect their own personal feelings of inadequacy as followers of teams perpetually mired in the cellar of their preferred conference. To me, the SEC reigns supreme above all others; the B10 is a bit of a distant second and the remaining three slug it out year to year to place a team in the CFP.

I'm a civil engineer by education so I always defer to that for metaphors...but a 10 story building with a solid foundation is far better than a 20 story building built on on pillar.

(02-17-2022 10:39 PM)doss2 Wrote:  

(02-17-2022 10:03 PM)bcat1997 Wrote:  

(02-16-2022 08:06 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(02-15-2022 11:13 PM)natibeast2.0 Wrote:  

(02-15-2022 09:50 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Consider the whole....

He got a $2M bump.

Assistants pool got a $2M bump.

The permanent indoor practice facility is est. $80M investment and is facilities priority #1.

We're not P5 revenue yet. His contract can be restructured again in a few years.

Exactly on that last point. I would have preferred 5.5-6mil for now but I mean cmon 5 mil to live in a solid city with low cost of living is a ton. It’s not like he’s in the boonies (pay them to go/stay there) or LA. And most of us know half the coaches that got those insane contracts this past year would be canned in no time if these schools can justify or even afford it. Those were ridiculous. Only USC made any sense to me with current landscape and I think they got their guy that can win there.

Either way it give UC some room to keep raising in future years I would guess without knowing the departments finances. As noted, we are hitting his top priorities and he appears determined to keep growing the program which is unreal really.

Bottom line, Fickell wants to stay here and apparently feels valued and appreciated by this combination of a seven figure raise, a seven figure increase in the assistant pool, and the progress on an eight figure IPF. He could get a $7-8 million offer tomorrow and leave, but that doesn't seem to be in his character.

We can only speculate that he is held here by something more than money--love of the university/city, home, and reasonable proximity to the extended family in Ohio. He's proving to be the program builder many of us longed for after watching rising stars in the profession rip our hearts out--in some cases, just hours after pledging their allegiance to UC. He is demonstrating character traits that will continue to endear him.

It's the best of times for Bearcat football fans who deserve much better than the hand we were often dealt in the past. Carpe diem.

He's proving to be the program builder many of us longed for after watching rising stars in the profession rip our hearts out--in some cases, just hours after pledging their allegiance to UC.

Exactly why you pay him what he's worth, not low ball him. If he's happy great, but I wouldn't have taken the chance and found the money to minimum $6M. In the NFL, you lock up your superstar QB. In college, you lock up your superstar head coach.

Except for short time TX and OK Lukeis the top of B12.

But those aren't the teams we are competing against for Luke. Are we big time or not? I think you have the answer.

How much to build a statue of Coach Fick?

It's official!

CINCINNATI – The University of Cincinnati Board of Trustees approved a contract extension through 2028 for head football coach Luke Fickell on Tuesday.

In addition to adding two years to his current contract, Fickell's annual salary will increase to $5 million and his football staff salary pool will increase to $5.2 million per year.

"Completing a contract extension for Coach Fickell was a top priority for our athletic department and university, and shows our commitment to growing this football program and taking it to the next level," Director of Athletics John Cunningham said. "We believe we have the best coach in the country and certainly the best leader for our Cincinnati football program. He has proven that day in and day out by building a culture that consistently wins and breaks records, but most importantly develops men of great character, setting them up to succeed in life. I can't thank President Neville Pinto enough for his leadership and work on getting this contract completed.

"We share Coach Fickell's vision to grow the program. This new contract ensures that we are united and committed to enhancing our university and continuing to impact the lives of student-athletes – core missions of our athletic department. This is also a major step towards making sure we will be 'Day One Ready' and prepared to compete for championships when we join the Big 12 conference."

In just five years, Fickell has emerged as one of the nation's top coaches and positioned Cincinnati football as an elite program capable on consistently contending for championships. Fickell was the consensus national coach of the year in 2021 after leading the Bearcats to a second consecutive American Athletic Conference Championship and UC's first-ever appearance in the College Football Playoff.

Cincinnati has finished in the Top 25 for four straight years with final rankings of No. 8 in 2020 and No. 4 in 2021.

"I appreciate the support of the leadership at the University of Cincinnati, including Director of Athletics John Cunningham and President Neville Pinto, as well as the Board of Trustees, our fans and our whole university and Cincinnati community," Fickell said. "John and President Pinto share my vision for how we want to grow this program and take it to the next level, and that's by investing in people - not just the head coach - and providing the necessary resources to prepare student-athletes to be at their best on and off the field.

"I'm truly honored to be the head coach of the University of Cincinnati and excited to keep working with our phenomenal student-athletes and administration to continue to develop our program. Now, it's time to get to work!"


https://gobearcats.com/news/2022/2/22/fo...nsion.aspx

Well done, and thanks to ALL at UC who made this happen--A.D., President, Board, and countless unnamed major donors who have stepped up in recent years to assure Bearcats everywhere that Cincinnati will continued to be counted among the best in college football.

It's (another) great day to be a Bearcat!

Looks like CLF can also earn up to $775K in bonus money as well based on various metrics.

On the flip side, his buyout is $3.5M for the next two years, reducing $500k per year thereafter.

Big time move by the program and all involved! Thank you coach!