first... so Louisville was 24-3 and we beat them twice. lol... if it weren't for us they would've been 24-1.


second... that surely isn't 25 cents listed in the last line, is it?

(01-14-2024 04:43 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  That game we jumped out to a 24-0 lead. I think we only won the game by 4 or 5. Maybe 6.


Just looked it up... 5.

College Basketball Roundup : Memphis Scores First 24, Outlasts Louisville

Quote:L.A. TIMES ARCHIVES
FEB. 21, 1989 12 AM PT

FROM ASSOCIATED PRESS
Memphis State scored the first 24 points and it was uphill from there.

The Tigers embarrassed eighth-ranked Louisville in the first seven minutes, but had to hold on for a 72-67 victory Monday night in Metro Conference game at Louisville.

Louisville (18-6 overall, 7-2 in the conference) got to within 66-64 on Pervis Ellison’s rebound basket with 2:18 left, but Elison Perry, who had 25 points, made six foul shots in the final 1:05 to give Memphis its sixth straight victory.

Memphis State (20-8, 7-3) made 10 of its first 13 shots while the Cardinals missed their first nine.

Come on, AP!

(01-15-2024 01:01 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  first... so Louisville was 24-3 and we beat them twice. lol... if it weren't for us they would've been 24-1.


second... that surely isn't 25 cents listed in the last line, is it?

Maybe the price for the program, not tickets…

In 1990 Loyola Marymount AVERAGED 122 points per game.

Bo Kimble era.

(01-15-2024 11:24 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  

(01-15-2024 01:01 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  first... so Louisville was 24-3 and we beat them twice. lol... if it weren't for us they would've been 24-1.


second... that surely isn't 25 cents listed in the last line, is it?

Maybe the price for the program, not tickets…

lol... good point!

(01-14-2024 06:49 PM)Cletus Wrote:  

(01-14-2024 04:43 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(01-14-2024 04:22 PM)tigerpride96 Wrote:  

(01-14-2024 03:23 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  I remember we once beat Louisville 100-59 I think. I was very young can’t remember if it was home or away

Is that the game we scored the first 25 points of the game?

That game we jumped out to a 24-0 lead. I think we only won the game by 4 or 5. Maybe 6.


Just looked it up... 5.

College Basketball Roundup : Memphis Scores First 24, Outlasts Louisville

Quote:L.A. TIMES ARCHIVES
FEB. 21, 1989 12 AM PT

FROM ASSOCIATED PRESS
Memphis State scored the first 24 points and it was uphill from there.

The Tigers embarrassed eighth-ranked Louisville in the first seven minutes, but had to hold on for a 72-67 victory Monday night in Metro Conference game at Louisville.

Louisville (18-6 overall, 7-2 in the conference) got to within 66-64 on Pervis Ellison’s rebound basket with 2:18 left, but Elison Perry, who had 25 points, made six foul shots in the final 1:05 to give Memphis its sixth straight victory.

Memphis State (20-8, 7-3) made 10 of its first 13 shots while the Cardinals missed their first nine.

From Tiger Jeb .......... I've watched this so many times lol

One of my all time favorite games. Watched it at the Sports Page I think.I drank 3 beers before Louisville scored. Personal record.

The TREY BALL was the reason for the 112
We must BUST THE TREY

Walton breaking his slump helped immensely. I hope he continues to be a consistent threat from three through the remainder of the season.

(01-14-2024 04:43 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(01-14-2024 04:22 PM)tigerpride96 Wrote:  

(01-14-2024 03:23 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  I remember we once beat Louisville 100-59 I think. I was very young can’t remember if it was home or away

Is that the game we scored the first 25 points of the game?

That game we jumped out to a 24-0 lead. I think we only won the game by 4 or 5. Maybe 6.


Just looked it up... 5.

College Basketball Roundup : Memphis Scores First 24, Outlasts Louisville

Quote:L.A. TIMES ARCHIVES
FEB. 21, 1989 12 AM PT

FROM ASSOCIATED PRESS
Memphis State scored the first 24 points and it was uphill from there.

The Tigers embarrassed eighth-ranked Louisville in the first seven minutes, but had to hold on for a 72-67 victory Monday night in Metro Conference game at Louisville.

Louisville (18-6 overall, 7-2 in the conference) got to within 66-64 on Pervis Ellison’s rebound basket with 2:18 left, but Elison Perry, who had 25 points, made six foul shots in the final 1:05 to give Memphis its sixth straight victory.

Memphis State (20-8, 7-3) made 10 of its first 13 shots while the Cardinals missed their first nine.

I remember Elliot Perry was always clutch at the FT line late in games. Because of the Sylvester Gray/Marvin Alexander situation and Penny being a prop 48 Elliot was always forced to carry the team on his back without a lot of talent around him. We didn't have any deep NCAA runs because of those issues but it was still very fun time for tiger BB watching EP do his thing and carry the team.

(01-15-2024 11:25 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(01-14-2024 04:43 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(01-14-2024 04:22 PM)tigerpride96 Wrote:  

(01-14-2024 03:23 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  I remember we once beat Louisville 100-59 I think. I was very young can’t remember if it was home or away

Is that the game we scored the first 25 points of the game?

That game we jumped out to a 24-0 lead. I think we only won the game by 4 or 5. Maybe 6.


Just looked it up... 5.

College Basketball Roundup : Memphis Scores First 24, Outlasts Louisville

Quote:L.A. TIMES ARCHIVES
FEB. 21, 1989 12 AM PT

FROM ASSOCIATED PRESS
Memphis State scored the first 24 points and it was uphill from there.

The Tigers embarrassed eighth-ranked Louisville in the first seven minutes, but had to hold on for a 72-67 victory Monday night in Metro Conference game at Louisville.

Louisville (18-6 overall, 7-2 in the conference) got to within 66-64 on Pervis Ellison’s rebound basket with 2:18 left, but Elison Perry, who had 25 points, made six foul shots in the final 1:05 to give Memphis its sixth straight victory.

Memphis State (20-8, 7-3) made 10 of its first 13 shots while the Cardinals missed their first nine.

I remember Elliot Perry was always clutch at the FT line late in games. Because of the Sylvester Gray/Marvin Alexander situation and Penny being a prop 48 Elliot was always forced to carry the team on his back without a lot of talent around him. We didn't have any deep NCAA runs because of those issues but it was still very fun time for tiger BB watching EP do his thing and carry the team.

Honestly I just dont think Finch was a good coach at all. We had plenty of talent the year before Penny came along. EP and Anthony Douglas were McD. AAs, Billy Smith and Earnest Smith top 50 recruits, Tony Madlock and Cheyanne Gipson were very solid guards. Finch was really lucky to have Vaughn as his nephew and Penny coming along, and then to have Henderson as a Memphian or we wouldve hit losing seasons much faster

(01-16-2024 12:22 AM)Alcalde2 Wrote:  Honestly I just dont think Finch was a good coach at all. We had plenty of talent the year before Penny came along. EP and Anthony Douglas were McD. AAs, Billy Smith and Earnest Smith top 50 recruits, Tony Madlock and Cheyanne Gipson were very solid guards. Finch was really lucky to have Vaughn as his nephew and Penny coming along, and then to have Henderson as a Memphian or we wouldve hit losing seasons much faster

Douglas and Smith were also prop 48 sophomores who had zero college experience and were playing against much older players in that era. They were both going to develop into really good players over the next 3 years, but they were not there yet as sophomores.

I'm not arguing anything about Finches coaching ability, just pointing out that those 2 guys were not quite ready to be big time players yet that year. By their JR seasons they were.

That was a team with a lot of holes on it. They had very little defensive presence in the paint and EP had to carry the team offensively. Gipson was a very streaky player who could score when he was on but would vanish for long stretches, sometimes over several games.

Cheyenne gets the top spot in my Memphis Tigers All Name team, tho!

(01-16-2024 06:53 AM)holyterror Wrote:  Cheyenne gets the top spot in my Memphis Tigers All Name team, tho!

Oh come on! Don't discount Baskervlle Holmes! That's my top of the list Tiger player name!

(01-16-2024 12:22 AM)Alcalde2 Wrote:  

(01-15-2024 11:25 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(01-14-2024 04:43 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(01-14-2024 04:22 PM)tigerpride96 Wrote:  

(01-14-2024 03:23 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  I remember we once beat Louisville 100-59 I think. I was very young can’t remember if it was home or away

Is that the game we scored the first 25 points of the game?

That game we jumped out to a 24-0 lead. I think we only won the game by 4 or 5. Maybe 6.


Just looked it up... 5.

College Basketball Roundup : Memphis Scores First 24, Outlasts Louisville

Quote:L.A. TIMES ARCHIVES
FEB. 21, 1989 12 AM PT

FROM ASSOCIATED PRESS
Memphis State scored the first 24 points and it was uphill from there.

The Tigers embarrassed eighth-ranked Louisville in the first seven minutes, but had to hold on for a 72-67 victory Monday night in Metro Conference game at Louisville.

Louisville (18-6 overall, 7-2 in the conference) got to within 66-64 on Pervis Ellison’s rebound basket with 2:18 left, but Elison Perry, who had 25 points, made six foul shots in the final 1:05 to give Memphis its sixth straight victory.

Memphis State (20-8, 7-3) made 10 of its first 13 shots while the Cardinals missed their first nine.

I remember Elliot Perry was always clutch at the FT line late in games. Because of the Sylvester Gray/Marvin Alexander situation and Penny being a prop 48 Elliot was always forced to carry the team on his back without a lot of talent around him. We didn't have any deep NCAA runs because of those issues but it was still very fun time for tiger BB watching EP do his thing and carry the team.

Honestly I just dont think Finch was a good coach at all. We had plenty of talent the year before Penny came along. EP and Anthony Douglas were McD. AAs, Billy Smith and Earnest Smith top 50 recruits, Tony Madlock and Cheyanne Gipson were very solid guards. Finch was really lucky to have Vaughn as his nephew and Penny coming along, and then to have Henderson as a Memphian or we wouldve hit losing seasons much faster

He definitely underachieved imo. And it seemed like he got on players too much for taking jump shots, which was odd since he was a jump shooter. I do know he never embraced the 3 like I thought he should. He and Mingo seemed to be at war the entire 95-96 season

(01-16-2024 06:01 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(01-16-2024 12:22 AM)Alcalde2 Wrote:  Honestly I just dont think Finch was a good coach at all. We had plenty of talent the year before Penny came along. EP and Anthony Douglas were McD. AAs, Billy Smith and Earnest Smith top 50 recruits, Tony Madlock and Cheyanne Gipson were very solid guards. Finch was really lucky to have Vaughn as his nephew and Penny coming along, and then to have Henderson as a Memphian or we wouldve hit losing seasons much faster

Douglas and Smith were also prop 48 sophomores who had zero college experience and were playing against much older players in that era. They were both going to develop into really good players over the next 3 years, but they were not there yet as sophomores.

I'm not arguing anything about Finches coaching ability, just pointing out that those 2 guys were not quite ready to be big time players yet that year. By their JR seasons they were.

That was a team with a lot of holes on it. They had very little defensive presence in the paint and EP had to carry the team offensively. Gipson was a very streaky player who could score when he was on but would vanish for long stretches, sometimes over several games.

Yea we didnt have any real talented bigs during the pre Penny Finch years outside of Gray/Alexander. The Mundts and Steve Ballard just werent big time players. I was a kid back then and remember making a Mundt/Ballard blooper/bad play tape just for fun. Wasnt Russell Young a really highly rated recruit that had an injury that limited his effectiveness?

(01-16-2024 05:19 PM)Alcalde2 Wrote:  

(01-16-2024 06:01 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(01-16-2024 12:22 AM)Alcalde2 Wrote:  Honestly I just dont think Finch was a good coach at all. We had plenty of talent the year before Penny came along. EP and Anthony Douglas were McD. AAs, Billy Smith and Earnest Smith top 50 recruits, Tony Madlock and Cheyanne Gipson were very solid guards. Finch was really lucky to have Vaughn as his nephew and Penny coming along, and then to have Henderson as a Memphian or we wouldve hit losing seasons much faster

Douglas and Smith were also prop 48 sophomores who had zero college experience and were playing against much older players in that era. They were both going to develop into really good players over the next 3 years, but they were not there yet as sophomores.

I'm not arguing anything about Finches coaching ability, just pointing out that those 2 guys were not quite ready to be big time players yet that year. By their JR seasons they were.

That was a team with a lot of holes on it. They had very little defensive presence in the paint and EP had to carry the team offensively. Gipson was a very streaky player who could score when he was on but would vanish for long stretches, sometimes over several games.

Yea we didnt have any real talented bigs during the pre Penny Finch years outside of Gray/Alexander. The Mundts and Steve Ballard just werent big time players. I was a kid back then and remember making a Mundt/Ballard blooper/bad play tape just for fun. Wasnt Russell Young a really highly rated recruit that had an injury that limited his effectiveness?

Russell was about 6-4/6-5 awesome leaper. The injury killed his career.

Losing Marvin & Sylvester set Larry Finch back because the Memphis HS big-man pipeline dried up a bit during the late 80's/early 90's. Anthony Douglas was coming in, but an earlier poster noted that he wasn't ready to be a big-time contributor yet.

Another contributing factor was Nolan Richardson snatching Todd Day & Ron Huery out of Memphis....

(01-16-2024 05:19 PM)Alcalde2 Wrote:  

(01-16-2024 06:01 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(01-16-2024 12:22 AM)Alcalde2 Wrote:  Honestly I just dont think Finch was a good coach at all. We had plenty of talent the year before Penny came along. EP and Anthony Douglas were McD. AAs, Billy Smith and Earnest Smith top 50 recruits, Tony Madlock and Cheyanne Gipson were very solid guards. Finch was really lucky to have Vaughn as his nephew and Penny coming along, and then to have Henderson as a Memphian or we wouldve hit losing seasons much faster

Douglas and Smith were also prop 48 sophomores who had zero college experience and were playing against much older players in that era. They were both going to develop into really good players over the next 3 years, but they were not there yet as sophomores.

I'm not arguing anything about Finches coaching ability, just pointing out that those 2 guys were not quite ready to be big time players yet that year. By their JR seasons they were.

That was a team with a lot of holes on it. They had very little defensive presence in the paint and EP had to carry the team offensively. Gipson was a very streaky player who could score when he was on but would vanish for long stretches, sometimes over several games.

Yea we didnt have any real talented bigs during the pre Penny Finch years outside of Gray/Alexander. The Mundts and Steve Ballard just werent big time players. I was a kid back then and remember making a Mundt/Ballard blooper/bad play tape just for fun. Wasnt Russell Young a really highly rated recruit that had an injury that limited his effectiveness?

Indeed he was. He lost a lot of his explosiveness after the injury.

I worked with him about 20 years ago one summer, he was a really good guy.

(01-16-2024 06:03 PM)CKMcDan Wrote:  Losing Marvin & Sylvester set Larry Finch back because the Memphis HS big-man pipeline dried up a bit during the late 80's/early 90's. Anthony Douglas was coming in, but an earlier poster noted that he wasn't ready to be a big-time contributor yet.

Another contributing factor was Nolan Richardson snatching Todd Day & Ron Huery out of Memphis....

Marvin and Sylvester was a back breaker for the late 80's. Todd Day hurt bad too but the tigers had no real paint presence at all once Marvin and Sylvester were declared ineligible. Kelvin Allen was a legit rotation guy but that was about it.

That didn't change until David Vaughn. And then of course he torn his knee his second year.

(01-16-2024 06:03 PM)CKMcDan Wrote:  Losing Marvin & Sylvester set Larry Finch back because the Memphis HS big-man pipeline dried up a bit during the late 80's/early 90's. Anthony Douglas was coming in, but an earlier poster noted that he wasn't ready to be a big-time contributor yet.

Another contributing factor was Nolan Richardson snatching Todd Day & Ron Huery out of Memphis....

Yea wouldve been nice to get Beck and Stewart from Fairley too