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RE: Should Texas State Stay East (Sunbelt) or Look to The West (MWC)?
Having more than 10 teams would lead to the potential for more undefeated teams, not less. The chances the best two teams don't play until the CCG are greater the higher the number of teams. Math.
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RE: Should Texas State Stay East (Sunbelt) or Look to The West (MWC)?
If Tx St is our best option then CUSA needs to stay at 9.
And no they are not an option because CUSA hasnt and will not invite them.
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RE: Should Texas State Stay East (Sunbelt) or Look to The West (MWC)?
(04-28-2022 04:34 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  If Tx St is our best option then CUSA needs to stay at 9.
And no they are not an option because CUSA hasnt and will not invite them.

Good. It's mutual. TXST would not accept an invitation, anyway.

Again, what school that would actually be willing to accept an invitation would be better than TXST?

I can imagine maybe UMass FB only. Maybe even Missouri State (although Matt Brown said they had no interest). I'm trying to figure this out. Who would add more?

The league office will need to figure that question out at some point. Staying at nine is perfectly fine. But there needs to be a contingency plan in the event WKU, or MTSU, or La. Tech, or someone else leaves.
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RE: Should Texas State Stay East (Sunbelt) or Look to The West (MWC)?
(04-28-2022 04:34 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Having more than 10 teams would lead to the potential for more undefeated teams, not less. The chances the best two teams don't play until the CCG are greater the higher the number of teams. Math.

Not if there’s too much parity especially in one division. Sorry, I just don’t see it.
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RE: Should Texas State Stay East (Sunbelt) or Look to The West (MWC)?
(04-28-2022 04:44 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(04-28-2022 04:34 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  If Tx St is our best option then CUSA needs to stay at 9.
And no they are not an option because CUSA hasnt and will not invite them.

Good. It's mutual. TXST would not accept an invitation, anyway.

Again, what school that would actually be willing to accept an invitation would be better than TXST?

I can imagine maybe UMass FB only. Maybe even Missouri State (although Matt Brown said they had no interest). I'm trying to figure this out. Who would add more?

The league office will need to figure that question out at some point. Staying at nine is perfectly fine. But there needs to be a contingency plan in the event WKU, or MTSU, or La. Tech, or someone else leaves.

What’s the rush to expand? Nine is perfect. Just leave it like that. And where are those schools going? I just don’t see any movement until the ACC GOR is up in the mid 2030’s.

For the conference sake, I hope they don’t expand and just focus on what they have moving forward. What the Sun Belt or any other G5 conference does or doesn’t do should not be any of our concern.
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RE: Should Texas State Stay East (Sunbelt) or Look to The West (MWC)?
(04-28-2022 04:56 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  
(04-28-2022 04:44 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(04-28-2022 04:34 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  If Tx St is our best option then CUSA needs to stay at 9.
And no they are not an option because CUSA hasnt and will not invite them.

Good. It's mutual. TXST would not accept an invitation, anyway.

Again, what school that would actually be willing to accept an invitation would be better than TXST?

I can imagine maybe UMass FB only. Maybe even Missouri State (although Matt Brown said they had no interest). I'm trying to figure this out. Who would add more?

The league office will need to figure that question out at some point. Staying at nine is perfectly fine. But there needs to be a contingency plan in the event WKU, or MTSU, or La. Tech, or someone else leaves.

What’s the rush to expand? Nine is perfect. Just leave it like that. And where are those schools going? I just don’t see any movement until the ACC GOR is up in the mid 2030’s.

For the conference sake, I hope they don’t expand and just focus on what they have moving forward. What the Sun Belt or any other G5 conference does or doesn’t do should not be any of our concern.

There's no rush. We're just trying to get the dude to answer the question lol. You're absolutely right.
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RE: Should Texas State Stay East (Sunbelt) or Look to The West (MWC)?
I'm very high on the Fun Belts future. I see them grabbing a NY6 bid every few years from here on. I think they have a high upside and have brought in programs to enhance and rival the current members. We could very well see the SBC overtake the AAC like they did CUSA after the last realignment moves. Everyone thought the SBC was done and CUSA was much stronger but when the next moves were made it was the SBC doing the poaching. As an east coaster im excited for that eastern division. In close no matter what anyone says Texas State is in a good spot.
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RE: Should Texas State Stay East (Sunbelt) or Look to The West (MWC)?
(04-28-2022 04:56 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  
(04-28-2022 04:44 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(04-28-2022 04:34 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  If Tx St is our best option then CUSA needs to stay at 9.
And no they are not an option because CUSA hasnt and will not invite them.

Good. It's mutual. TXST would not accept an invitation, anyway.

Again, what school that would actually be willing to accept an invitation would be better than TXST?

I can imagine maybe UMass FB only. Maybe even Missouri State (although Matt Brown said they had no interest). I'm trying to figure this out. Who would add more?

The league office will need to figure that question out at some point. Staying at nine is perfectly fine. But there needs to be a contingency plan in the event WKU, or MTSU, or La. Tech, or someone else leaves.

What’s the rush to expand? Nine is perfect. Just leave it like that. And where are those schools going? I just don’t see any movement until the ACC GOR is up in the mid 2030’s.

For the conference sake, I hope they don’t expand and just focus on what they have moving forward. What the Sun Belt or any other G5 conference does or doesn’t do should not be any of our concern.

I'm enjoying this discussion, UTEPDallas. Too many times, people try to be message board tough guys. I don't get that vibe from you at all.

I think you must have misunderstood me due to my being unclear. I agree with you that nine is best right now. I was just talking about contingency scenarios in which C-USA needs to backfill. For example, Memphis goes to the Big 12 (along with Boise). AAC backfills with MTSU. C-USA needs a plan. Or, say,, the Sun Belt [stupidly] adds Missouri State and WKU. C-USA needs a backup plan.. But I agree with you: don't add new schools now. Nine is good. See what happens.

Regarding the Sun Belt at 10 vs. 14.

I agree that the Belt had a good thing going at 10 members. The past several seasons have been the highest level of performance in football in the league's history.

I agree, we have yet to find out if the SBC can do well at more than 12 members.

Let's look at the WAC-16. BYU went 14-1 in 1996, finished in the Top 5, won the Cotton Bowl over K-State, and certainly would have been in today's NY6 if not CFP. It was probably BYU's second best season ever, behind only the 1984 national championship. That made it clear that large G5-equivalent conferences can produce dominant teams. The league broke in two, so the experiment failed. However, the Sun Belt can't just break in two. The NCAA/P5 aren't going to allow a 33rd automatic bid.

Additionally, the WAC-16 broke up rivalries. The old-line WAC schools were separated from each other, and they hated it. The SBC14 does the opposite. It has brought rivalries together, and their fans love it.

C-USA14 didn't produce any NY6 contenders. I don't know why that was exactly. But the way the conference was run and set up may have played a role.

C-USA14 can't be faulted for losing schools to the AAC. That was always the better conference. But losing schools to a league it once raided was a failure. It failed for many reasons: poor leadership, perceived favoritism towards Texas schools, terrible multimedia deals, a bad basketball tournament setup, and few regional, historic rivalries. There was a lack of commonality. The divisions were really widespread and very difficult for most fans to drive to for most road games.. The SBC14 largely has been satisfied with Benson and now Gill. The tournament was moved more towards the middle of the league. The multimedia deal with ESPN is simple, easy to understand, and provides ample exposure opportunities. The rivalries in both divisions are great. The divisions are compact, driveable, and primed for rivalries.

Time will tell whether the SBC14 can start getting some teams in the NY6. It's a level playing field once Cincy, Houston, and UCF are gone. No excuses not to get some teams a few times in the NY6 at that point. We'll see. Maybe you'll be right and parity will drag the league down.
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RE: Should Texas State Stay East (Sunbelt) or Look to The West (MWC)?
(04-28-2022 04:44 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(04-28-2022 04:34 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  If Tx St is our best option then CUSA needs to stay at 9.
And no they are not an option because CUSA hasnt and will not invite them.

Good. It's mutual. TXST would not accept an invitation, anyway.

Again, what school that would actually be willing to accept an invitation would be better than TXST?

I can imagine maybe UMass FB only. Maybe even Missouri State (although Matt Brown said they had no interest). I'm trying to figure this out. Who would add more?

The league office will need to figure that question out at some point. Staying at nine is perfectly fine. But there needs to be a contingency plan in the event WKU, or MTSU, or La. Tech, or someone else leaves.

I would not put Missouri State above Tx St. Even maybe but definitely not better.
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RE: Should Texas State Stay East (Sunbelt) or Look to The West (MWC)?
(04-27-2022 11:18 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  
(04-27-2022 10:04 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  
(04-27-2022 09:43 AM)JTApps1 Wrote:  
(04-27-2022 07:24 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  Why would CUSA want Tx St with other options available?

By better options you mean teams that would consider joining CUSA as Texas State has no interest.

The only league that would make sense for Texas State to move to is the AAC.

No I mean better options.

dude, its ok to admit where CUSA is. Look at where the SBC was at in 2013 when App joined. 10 years later its a completely different situation. Maybe JSU will help lead a renaissance for CUSA. As it stands, Cusa is bottom of the barrel. TXST wouldn't join at this juncture. A lot is going to have to change for CUSA to be back in a position to entice a TXST to join.

Personally, i think that ship has sailed, permanently. But i don't make the rules, i could be wrong.

(04-28-2022 04:34 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  If Tx St is our best option then CUSA needs to stay at 9.
And no they are not an option because CUSA hasnt and will not invite them.

This clown is a troll and I can’t believe this many people have given jacksonville?/Jackson? States biggest keyboard warrior that much attention. Best to ignore the dumb dumbs, let em wait until CUSA folds and they’re begging the WAC for an invite.
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RE: Should Texas State Stay East (Sunbelt) or Look to The West (MWC)?
(04-29-2022 12:57 AM)Bobcats2011 Wrote:  
(04-27-2022 11:18 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  
(04-27-2022 10:04 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  
(04-27-2022 09:43 AM)JTApps1 Wrote:  
(04-27-2022 07:24 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  Why would CUSA want Tx St with other options available?

By better options you mean teams that would consider joining CUSA as Texas State has no interest.

The only league that would make sense for Texas State to move to is the AAC.

No I mean better options.

dude, its ok to admit where CUSA is. Look at where the SBC was at in 2013 when App joined. 10 years later its a completely different situation. Maybe JSU will help lead a renaissance for CUSA. As it stands, Cusa is bottom of the barrel. TXST wouldn't join at this juncture. A lot is going to have to change for CUSA to be back in a position to entice a TXST to join.

Personally, i think that ship has sailed, permanently. But i don't make the rules, i could be wrong.

(04-28-2022 04:34 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  If Tx St is our best option then CUSA needs to stay at 9.
And no they are not an option because CUSA hasnt and will not invite them.

This clown is a troll and I can’t believe this many people have given jacksonville?/Jackson? States biggest keyboard warrior that much attention. Best to ignore the dumb dumbs, let em wait until CUSA folds and they’re begging the WAC for an invite.

Not trolling just truthful. The trolls are those implying CUSA would invite Tx St.
CUSA doesnt need to take a SBC bottom team. Our league will be strong and will be near the top of the G5.

And no I dont go along with the SBC propaganda it improved. Yes some teams left CUSA for SBC, wow doesnt make CUSA worse.

SBC better worry about losing your best coach, Napier.
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RE: Should Texas State Stay East (Sunbelt) or Look to The West (MWC)?
(04-28-2022 04:34 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  If Tx St is our best option then CUSA needs to stay at 9.
And no they are not an option because CUSA hasnt and will not invite them.

I'm sure any conference would rather have Texas State than Jackson state.
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RE: Should Texas State Stay East (Sunbelt) or Look to The West (MWC)?
(04-29-2022 06:40 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  
(04-29-2022 12:57 AM)Bobcats2011 Wrote:  
(04-27-2022 11:18 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  
(04-27-2022 10:04 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  
(04-27-2022 09:43 AM)JTApps1 Wrote:  By better options you mean teams that would consider joining CUSA as Texas State has no interest.

The only league that would make sense for Texas State to move to is the AAC.

No I mean better options.

dude, its ok to admit where CUSA is. Look at where the SBC was at in 2013 when App joined. 10 years later its a completely different situation. Maybe JSU will help lead a renaissance for CUSA. As it stands, Cusa is bottom of the barrel. TXST wouldn't join at this juncture. A lot is going to have to change for CUSA to be back in a position to entice a TXST to join.

Personally, i think that ship has sailed, permanently. But i don't make the rules, i could be wrong.

(04-28-2022 04:34 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  If Tx St is our best option then CUSA needs to stay at 9.
And no they are not an option because CUSA hasnt and will not invite them.

This clown is a troll and I can’t believe this many people have given jacksonville?/Jackson? States biggest keyboard warrior that much attention. Best to ignore the dumb dumbs, let em wait until CUSA folds and they’re begging the WAC for an invite.

Not trolling just truthful. The trolls are those implying CUSA would invite Tx St.
CUSA doesnt need to take a SBC bottom team. Our league will be strong and will be near the top of the G5.

And no I dont go along with the SBC propaganda it improved. Yes some teams left CUSA for SBC, wow doesnt make CUSA worse.

SBC better worry about losing your best coach, Napier.


That being said... I'm sure the possibility of luring Texas State and/ or Arkansas State from the Belt has been brought up.
Surely it's has occurred to someone in the league office that - with the heavy Eastern lean of the new Sun Belt - its left their Western leaning schools a bit alienated.
I know it's not likely, but they do fit in with the CUSA western and eastern schools.
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RE: Should Texas State Stay East (Sunbelt) or Look to The West (MWC)?
(05-01-2022 10:23 PM)TroyTBoy Wrote:  
(04-29-2022 06:40 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  
(04-29-2022 12:57 AM)Bobcats2011 Wrote:  
(04-27-2022 11:18 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  
(04-27-2022 10:04 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  No I mean better options.

dude, its ok to admit where CUSA is. Look at where the SBC was at in 2013 when App joined. 10 years later its a completely different situation. Maybe JSU will help lead a renaissance for CUSA. As it stands, Cusa is bottom of the barrel. TXST wouldn't join at this juncture. A lot is going to have to change for CUSA to be back in a position to entice a TXST to join.

Personally, i think that ship has sailed, permanently. But i don't make the rules, i could be wrong.

(04-28-2022 04:34 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  If Tx St is our best option then CUSA needs to stay at 9.
And no they are not an option because CUSA hasnt and will not invite them.

This clown is a troll and I can’t believe this many people have given jacksonville?/Jackson? States biggest keyboard warrior that much attention. Best to ignore the dumb dumbs, let em wait until CUSA folds and they’re begging the WAC for an invite.

Not trolling just truthful. The trolls are those implying CUSA would invite Tx St.
CUSA doesnt need to take a SBC bottom team. Our league will be strong and will be near the top of the G5.

And no I dont go along with the SBC propaganda it improved. Yes some teams left CUSA for SBC, wow doesnt make CUSA worse.

SBC better worry about losing your best coach, Napier.


That being said... I'm sure the possibility of luring Texas State and/ or Arkansas State from the Belt has been brought up.
Surely it's has occurred to someone in the league office that - with the heavy Eastern lean of the new Sun Belt - its left their Western leaning schools a bit alienated.
I know it's not likely, but they do fit in with the CUSA western and eastern schools.

I don't think the Sun Belt West schools are or feel like the conference alienated them with the 4 new additions. Yes, 3/4 are further away from the West schools than any of the current schools in the East but the divisions are great. The West is spread out more but it is still very well aligned.

East: Georgia (2) > South Carolina (1) > North Carolina (1) > Virginia (2) > West Virginia (1)
West: Texas (1) > Arkansas (1) > Louisiana (2) > Mississippi (1) > Alabama (2)
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(05-02-2022 12:28 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  
(05-01-2022 10:23 PM)TroyTBoy Wrote:  
(04-29-2022 06:40 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  
(04-29-2022 12:57 AM)Bobcats2011 Wrote:  
(04-27-2022 11:18 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  dude, its ok to admit where CUSA is. Look at where the SBC was at in 2013 when App joined. 10 years later its a completely different situation. Maybe JSU will help lead a renaissance for CUSA. As it stands, Cusa is bottom of the barrel. TXST wouldn't join at this juncture. A lot is going to have to change for CUSA to be back in a position to entice a TXST to join.

Personally, i think that ship has sailed, permanently. But i don't make the rules, i could be wrong.

(04-28-2022 04:34 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  If Tx St is our best option then CUSA needs to stay at 9.
And no they are not an option because CUSA hasnt and will not invite them.

This clown is a troll and I can’t believe this many people have given jacksonville?/Jackson? States biggest keyboard warrior that much attention. Best to ignore the dumb dumbs, let em wait until CUSA folds and they’re begging the WAC for an invite.

Not trolling just truthful. The trolls are those implying CUSA would invite Tx St.
CUSA doesnt need to take a SBC bottom team. Our league will be strong and will be near the top of the G5.

And no I dont go along with the SBC propaganda it improved. Yes some teams left CUSA for SBC, wow doesnt make CUSA worse.

SBC better worry about losing your best coach, Napier.


That being said... I'm sure the possibility of luring Texas State and/ or Arkansas State from the Belt has been brought up.
Surely it's has occurred to someone in the league office that - with the heavy Eastern lean of the new Sun Belt - its left their Western leaning schools a bit alienated.
I know it's not likely, but they do fit in with the CUSA western and eastern schools.

I don't think the Sun Belt West schools are or feel like the conference alienated them with the 4 new additions. Yes, 3/4 are further away from the West schools than any of the current schools in the East but the divisions are great. The West is spread out more but it is still very well aligned.

East: Georgia (2) > South Carolina (1) > North Carolina (1) > Virginia (2) > West Virginia (1)
West: Texas (1) > Arkansas (1) > Louisiana (2) > Mississippi (1) > Alabama (2)

And at least for us the CUSA geography isn't any better.
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RE: Should Texas State Stay East (Sunbelt) or Look to The West (MWC)?
(05-01-2022 10:23 PM)TroyTBoy Wrote:  
(04-29-2022 06:40 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  
(04-29-2022 12:57 AM)Bobcats2011 Wrote:  
(04-27-2022 11:18 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  
(04-27-2022 10:04 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  No I mean better options.

dude, its ok to admit where CUSA is. Look at where the SBC was at in 2013 when App joined. 10 years later its a completely different situation. Maybe JSU will help lead a renaissance for CUSA. As it stands, Cusa is bottom of the barrel. TXST wouldn't join at this juncture. A lot is going to have to change for CUSA to be back in a position to entice a TXST to join.

Personally, i think that ship has sailed, permanently. But i don't make the rules, i could be wrong.

(04-28-2022 04:34 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  If Tx St is our best option then CUSA needs to stay at 9.
And no they are not an option because CUSA hasnt and will not invite them.

This clown is a troll and I can’t believe this many people have given jacksonville?/Jackson? States biggest keyboard warrior that much attention. Best to ignore the dumb dumbs, let em wait until CUSA folds and they’re begging the WAC for an invite.

Not trolling just truthful. The trolls are those implying CUSA would invite Tx St.
CUSA doesnt need to take a SBC bottom team. Our league will be strong and will be near the top of the G5.

And no I dont go along with the SBC propaganda it improved. Yes some teams left CUSA for SBC, wow doesnt make CUSA worse.

SBC better worry about losing your best coach, Napier.


That being said... I'm sure the possibility of luring Texas State and/ or Arkansas State from the Belt has been brought up.
Surely it's has occurred to someone in the league office that - with the heavy Eastern lean of the new Sun Belt - its left their Western leaning schools a bit alienated.
I know it's not likely, but they do fit in with the CUSA western and eastern schools.

You're coming up with crazy scenarios in your own head. They also fit perfectly with the schools they've been sharing a conference with for 20+ years.
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(05-02-2022 07:45 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  
(05-02-2022 12:28 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  
(05-01-2022 10:23 PM)TroyTBoy Wrote:  
(04-29-2022 06:40 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  
(04-29-2022 12:57 AM)Bobcats2011 Wrote:  This clown is a troll and I can’t believe this many people have given jacksonville?/Jackson? States biggest keyboard warrior that much attention. Best to ignore the dumb dumbs, let em wait until CUSA folds and they’re begging the WAC for an invite.

Not trolling just truthful. The trolls are those implying CUSA would invite Tx St.
CUSA doesnt need to take a SBC bottom team. Our league will be strong and will be near the top of the G5.

And no I dont go along with the SBC propaganda it improved. Yes some teams left CUSA for SBC, wow doesnt make CUSA worse.

SBC better worry about losing your best coach, Napier.


That being said... I'm sure the possibility of luring Texas State and/ or Arkansas State from the Belt has been brought up.
Surely it's has occurred to someone in the league office that - with the heavy Eastern lean of the new Sun Belt - its left their Western leaning schools a bit alienated.
I know it's not likely, but they do fit in with the CUSA western and eastern schools.

I don't think the Sun Belt West schools are or feel like the conference alienated them with the 4 new additions. Yes, 3/4 are further away from the West schools than any of the current schools in the East but the divisions are great. The West is spread out more but it is still very well aligned.

East: Georgia (2) > South Carolina (1) > North Carolina (1) > Virginia (2) > West Virginia (1)
West: Texas (1) > Arkansas (1) > Louisiana (2) > Mississippi (1) > Alabama (2)

And at least for us the CUSA geography isn't any better.

If I'm a Texas State fan, I'd much prefer my neighbors to be Louisiana Tech, UTEP, NMSU, and Sam Houston... vs no other Texas teams and ULala, Monroe, Arkie State

CUSA is also so much better in basketball than the Belt. Texas State seems to care about basketball more now, and a potential multiple bid league could be enticing compared to 14 teams sharing 1 bid in the Sun Belt.
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RE: Should Texas State Stay East (Sunbelt) or Look to The West (MWC)?
(04-29-2022 07:50 PM)RT98 Wrote:  
(04-28-2022 04:34 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  If Tx St is our best option then CUSA needs to stay at 9.
And no they are not an option because CUSA hasnt and will not invite them.

I'm sure any conference would rather have Texas State than Jackson state.

1)I agree with the overall point you are (I think) attempting to make.
2)No one is talking about Jackson State on this thread.
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RE: Should Texas State Stay East (Sunbelt) or Look to The West (MWC)?
(05-03-2022 01:45 AM)TroyTBoy Wrote:  
(05-02-2022 07:45 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  
(05-02-2022 12:28 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  
(05-01-2022 10:23 PM)TroyTBoy Wrote:  
(04-29-2022 06:40 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  Not trolling just truthful. The trolls are those implying CUSA would invite Tx St.
CUSA doesnt need to take a SBC bottom team. Our league will be strong and will be near the top of the G5.

And no I dont go along with the SBC propaganda it improved. Yes some teams left CUSA for SBC, wow doesnt make CUSA worse.

SBC better worry about losing your best coach, Napier.


That being said... I'm sure the possibility of luring Texas State and/ or Arkansas State from the Belt has been brought up.
Surely it's has occurred to someone in the league office that - with the heavy Eastern lean of the new Sun Belt - its left their Western leaning schools a bit alienated.
I know it's not likely, but they do fit in with the CUSA western and eastern schools.

I don't think the Sun Belt West schools are or feel like the conference alienated them with the 4 new additions. Yes, 3/4 are further away from the West schools than any of the current schools in the East but the divisions are great. The West is spread out more but it is still very well aligned.

East: Georgia (2) > South Carolina (1) > North Carolina (1) > Virginia (2) > West Virginia (1)
West: Texas (1) > Arkansas (1) > Louisiana (2) > Mississippi (1) > Alabama (2)

And at least for us the CUSA geography isn't any better.

If I'm a Texas State fan, I'd much prefer my neighbors to be Louisiana Tech, UTEP, NMSU, and Sam Houston... vs no other Texas teams and ULala, Monroe, Arkie State

CUSA is also so much better in basketball than the Belt. Texas State seems to care about basketball more now, and a potential multiple bid league could be enticing compared to 14 teams sharing 1 bid in the Sun Belt.

This is where you are flawed. You aren't a TXST fan, you don't know who we'd prefer to be in a conference with. We've been there and done that with all of those schools except for UTEP. La Tech was cool but we're happy where we are. I get it, you're a new CUSA fan so you see all of the members through CUSA colored classes, but for TXST those schools don't move the needle for me that much, and I'm sure they feel the same way about us. Just because UTEP is technically in Texas doesn't make them an automatic rival, they're like 9 hours away. I wouldn't mind playing La Tech, NMSU, and UTEP OOC though. You can't seem to grasp that of the schools you mention only SHSU is close and the other three aren't any closer than our conferencemates.

As we've both agreed on, basketball is the only advantage CUSA has. We'll see if CUSA can be a multi bid league though.
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RE: Should Texas State Stay East (Sunbelt) or Look to The West (MWC)?
(05-03-2022 07:56 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  As we've both agreed on, basketball is the only advantage CUSA has. We'll see if CUSA can be a multi bid league though.


CUSA basketball has a HUGE edge on the Sun Belt.

IMO, we'll see if the Sun Belt will sustain with 14 members now. According to 247, CUSA is out recruiting the Sunbelt in football.
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