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RE: One this team is healthy...
(01-17-2022 11:05 AM)Stammers Wrote:  The issue is that the one player we can't afford to be hurt, is hurt. If we had the same injuries except Williams was healthy, we would be 12-4, ranked, or on the cusp of being ranked, looking at an 8 seed, and on our way to being a higher seed than that. So whatever crap all the psychos are coming up with, that is the bottom line.

12-4 LOL Didn't someone tell you yesterday that we have 5 losses with Williams playing already ? ..or am I dreaming it--7 losses 5 with Williams
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(01-17-2022 11:36 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(01-17-2022 11:05 AM)Stammers Wrote:  The issue is that the one player we can't afford to be hurt, is hurt. If we had the same injuries except Williams was healthy, we would be 12-4, ranked, or on the cusp of being ranked, looking at an 8 seed, and on our way to being a higher seed than that. So whatever crap all the psychos are coming up with, that is the bottom line.

12-4 LOL Didn't someone tell you yesterday that we have 5 losses with Williams playing already ? ..or am I dreaming it--7 losses 5 with Williams

Exactly. This isn’t about 1 player. This team has individual talent but is dysfunctional and poorly coached.
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(01-16-2022 06:17 PM)Memphis10Tigers Wrote:  Anything is still possible with this team. I’ll keep watching.

I will keep watching, as well - but with lowered expectations. If I watch every game believing they are likely to find a way to lose, I will be pleasantly surprised when they actually win. This latest debacle at ECU was really shocking to watch.
01-17-2022 01:03 PM
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(01-17-2022 12:19 PM)bluetiger89 Wrote:  
(01-17-2022 11:36 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(01-17-2022 11:05 AM)Stammers Wrote:  The issue is that the one player we can't afford to be hurt, is hurt. If we had the same injuries except Williams was healthy, we would be 12-4, ranked, or on the cusp of being ranked, looking at an 8 seed, and on our way to being a higher seed than that. So whatever crap all the psychos are coming up with, that is the bottom line.

12-4 LOL Didn't someone tell you yesterday that we have 5 losses with Williams playing already ? ..or am I dreaming it--7 losses 5 with Williams

Exactly. This isn’t about 1 player. This team has individual talent but is dysfunctional and poorly coached.

Back in the day I had a coach who maintained that the way you respond to adversity largely determines your trajectory in both sports and life. While Penny has not been the coach - so far - that we all hoped and believed he would be, there is no denying that he has faced a great deal of adversity these past two years. The heart of last years team ripped out only a few game in - and then the relentless series of injuries and covid problems this year. I too and weary of the drama, the never ending series of line-ups, and the really strange coaching decisions that he has made. Having said that, I still believe that this team, if healthy, could catch fire.
In any event, to have a so-called Memphis fan say that Penny stinks is just so sad. I also believe that Penny is very aware of the situation and might just resign if he thinks the program would be better off.
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(01-17-2022 11:36 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(01-17-2022 11:05 AM)Stammers Wrote:  The issue is that the one player we can't afford to be hurt, is hurt. If we had the same injuries except Williams was healthy, we would be 12-4, ranked, or on the cusp of being ranked, looking at an 8 seed, and on our way to being a higher seed than that. So whatever crap all the psychos are coming up with, that is the bottom line.

12-4 LOL Didn't someone tell you yesterday that we have 5 losses with Williams playing already ? ..or am I dreaming it--7 losses 5 with Williams

And this is why you have to stick with the same 4 dumb posts over and over. Whenever you don't stay in your lane you come up with...

- An auto plant 60 miles from Memphis is racist
- Investing $6 billion in a plant 60 miles from Memphis will NOT benefit Memphis
- The Hawaii Bowl Christmas Eve is the same as the Senior Bowl, coached by two full NFL staffs, with 900 NFL personnel in attendance
- NFL staffs know everything about every single player, BUT still have a Senior Bowl and combine

Would we have lost to Tulane, UCF or ECU with Williams? Don't give yourself an aneurysm trying to think it out. Give it a guess. We are 9-7. What is 9+3? What is 7-3?

Don't risk showboating; use a calculator. Sorry, too complicated. Count on your fingers and toes. Good luck!
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(01-17-2022 12:19 PM)bluetiger89 Wrote:  
(01-17-2022 11:36 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(01-17-2022 11:05 AM)Stammers Wrote:  The issue is that the one player we can't afford to be hurt, is hurt. If we had the same injuries except Williams was healthy, we would be 12-4, ranked, or on the cusp of being ranked, looking at an 8 seed, and on our way to being a higher seed than that. So whatever crap all the psychos are coming up with, that is the bottom line.

12-4 LOL Didn't someone tell you yesterday that we have 5 losses with Williams playing already ? ..or am I dreaming it--7 losses 5 with Williams

Exactly. This isn’t about 1 player. This team has individual talent but is dysfunctional and poorly coached.

I don't know if you've actually watched any games. When we figured it out last year, we finished 14-3. When we figured it out this year, we killed Alabama and Wichita.
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Did you mean to type "once"?
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(01-16-2022 05:45 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  ... they are capable of winning the conference tournament and making the sweet sixteen.


Change my mind.

They have to want to...

And buy into the thought process that winning is more important than being pretty and the fact that small details are important.

(Pretty)
That second Dunk attempt by Minott in the UCF game just tells the story...That would have been tough dunk to make in the slam dunk contest...He pulled that thing back so far seems he touched his back.

(Details)
If the coach tells you to sub for Duren who is at the FT line...You don't sub for Q after the 1st FT and leave Tyler at the table to sub for Duren. Duren misses the 2nd FT and the wrong lineup is out there. That is the type of stuff that should just piss a coach off. Thats like calling your own plays in football.
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(01-17-2022 03:13 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-17-2022 12:19 PM)bluetiger89 Wrote:  
(01-17-2022 11:36 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(01-17-2022 11:05 AM)Stammers Wrote:  The issue is that the one player we can't afford to be hurt, is hurt. If we had the same injuries except Williams was healthy, we would be 12-4, ranked, or on the cusp of being ranked, looking at an 8 seed, and on our way to being a higher seed than that. So whatever crap all the psychos are coming up with, that is the bottom line.

12-4 LOL Didn't someone tell you yesterday that we have 5 losses with Williams playing already ? ..or am I dreaming it--7 losses 5 with Williams

Exactly. This isn’t about 1 player. This team has individual talent but is dysfunctional and poorly coached.

I don't know if you've actually watched any games. When we figured it out last year, we finished 14-3. When we figured it out this year, we killed Alabama and Wichita.

Throw in all the terrible losses we’ve had and you have a dysfunctional team that’s poorly coached. Shouldn’t be that hard to comprehend.
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(01-17-2022 07:49 PM)bluetiger89 Wrote:  
(01-17-2022 03:13 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-17-2022 12:19 PM)bluetiger89 Wrote:  
(01-17-2022 11:36 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(01-17-2022 11:05 AM)Stammers Wrote:  The issue is that the one player we can't afford to be hurt, is hurt. If we had the same injuries except Williams was healthy, we would be 12-4, ranked, or on the cusp of being ranked, looking at an 8 seed, and on our way to being a higher seed than that. So whatever crap all the psychos are coming up with, that is the bottom line.

12-4 LOL Didn't someone tell you yesterday that we have 5 losses with Williams playing already ? ..or am I dreaming it--7 losses 5 with Williams

Exactly. This isn’t about 1 player. This team has individual talent but is dysfunctional and poorly coached.

I don't know if you've actually watched any games. When we figured it out last year, we finished 14-3. When we figured it out this year, we killed Alabama and Wichita.

Throw in all the terrible losses we’ve had and you have a dysfunctional team that’s poorly coached. Shouldn’t be that hard to comprehend.

Are we poorly coached...

Absolutely...

If we didn't have Injuries and COVID we would be undefeated in conference...Absolutely

Both can be true.
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(01-17-2022 08:11 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(01-17-2022 07:49 PM)bluetiger89 Wrote:  
(01-17-2022 03:13 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-17-2022 12:19 PM)bluetiger89 Wrote:  
(01-17-2022 11:36 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  12-4 LOL Didn't someone tell you yesterday that we have 5 losses with Williams playing already ? ..or am I dreaming it--7 losses 5 with Williams

Exactly. This isn’t about 1 player. This team has individual talent but is dysfunctional and poorly coached.

I don't know if you've actually watched any games. When we figured it out last year, we finished 14-3. When we figured it out this year, we killed Alabama and Wichita.

Throw in all the terrible losses we’ve had and you have a dysfunctional team that’s poorly coached. Shouldn’t be that hard to comprehend.

Are we poorly coached...

Absolutely...

If we didn't have Injuries and COVID we would be undefeated in conference...Absolutely

Both can be true.

I guess but every team is dealing with injuries and Covid. As a fan I hope they get this turned around.
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you guys gonna hate me saying this-just wondering if we had Bruce Pearl on the helm with the talents that we have, this team woud have been in discussion Sw16, E8 bound imo.
Bates has amazing shooting touch for a guys who is 6-9 and half the shots he made were either hurried and/or contested. If a good coach had setup some plays to isolate him or with a dribble drive offense and find him as an open man, he will do so much damage...; Durren is another great talent with sweet jumper, we need to try set plays to feed him as much as we can and take further advantage in the paint; Minot- what can you say about him...he brings so much positive energy on thre floor is second to none and ability to slash the lane and create easy baskets is amazin to watch + the senior guys (Williams, Nolley, Lester). This team is loaded with talents that would be dream for any coach.
Moving forward, I do not want to see:
- Dandridge should NOT dribble or pass the ball
- Lester need to do a better job passing the ball and not to create TO & also learn not to create unnecessary fouls
- Hardaway shoukd NOT try to force a shot, PERIOD.
- Harris shoukd be our PG w/limited Bates to handle the ball
- when ALO is back, he MUST learn to minimize the TO and do not force a shot
- if a ball handler is in trouble, others need to help out
- Need to stay away from stagnant offense; we need to keep moving the ball (less dribbling more passing) and find the open man or designated guy for the play
- Bring back Memphis D' and take pride keeping other teams under 30% shooting
- Protect the perimiter
- AND MOST IMPORTANTLY-KEEP OWNING THE BOARDS!
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(01-16-2022 05:45 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  ... they are capable of winning the conference tournament and making the sweet sixteen.


Change my mind.

Did you mean, “once”?
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(01-17-2022 07:49 PM)bluetiger89 Wrote:  
(01-17-2022 03:13 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-17-2022 12:19 PM)bluetiger89 Wrote:  
(01-17-2022 11:36 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(01-17-2022 11:05 AM)Stammers Wrote:  The issue is that the one player we can't afford to be hurt, is hurt. If we had the same injuries except Williams was healthy, we would be 12-4, ranked, or on the cusp of being ranked, looking at an 8 seed, and on our way to being a higher seed than that. So whatever crap all the psychos are coming up with, that is the bottom line.

12-4 LOL Didn't someone tell you yesterday that we have 5 losses with Williams playing already ? ..or am I dreaming it--7 losses 5 with Williams

Exactly. This isn’t about 1 player. This team has individual talent but is dysfunctional and poorly coached.

I don't know if you've actually watched any games. When we figured it out last year, we finished 14-3. When we figured it out this year, we killed Alabama and Wichita.

Throw in all the terrible losses we’ve had and you have a dysfunctional team that’s poorly coached. Shouldn’t be that hard to comprehend.

Again, I guess you haven't watched any of the games once we figured things out. Just continue to ignore everything.
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(01-16-2022 05:45 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  ... they are capable of winning the conference tournament and making the sweet sixteen.


Change my mind.

AGREED
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If the team is healthy, they won't lose another game until the NCAA Tournament. If the team only has a healthy Williams and any 7 other scholarship players, they are still better than anyone else in the conference, including Houston.
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(01-17-2022 11:25 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-17-2022 07:49 PM)bluetiger89 Wrote:  
(01-17-2022 03:13 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-17-2022 12:19 PM)bluetiger89 Wrote:  
(01-17-2022 11:36 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  12-4 LOL Didn't someone tell you yesterday that we have 5 losses with Williams playing already ? ..or am I dreaming it--7 losses 5 with Williams

Exactly. This isn’t about 1 player. This team has individual talent but is dysfunctional and poorly coached.

I don't know if you've actually watched any games. When we figured it out last year, we finished 14-3. When we figured it out this year, we killed Alabama and Wichita.

Throw in all the terrible losses we’ve had and you have a dysfunctional team that’s poorly coached. Shouldn’t be that hard to comprehend.

Again, I guess you haven't watched any of the games once we figured things out. Just continue to ignore everything.
As it was pointed out, we’ve lost games with Williams playing. Again, this isn’t 1 player. Since Penny took over, we’ve been wildly inconsistent. Play great 1 game and get beat by a terrible team the next. That’s coaching. Plain and simple. I’d slow your roll trumping the wins over WSU(9-7) and Bama(11-6)
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The only thing I can say regarding this team is it seems they are just as frustrated as Penny which is both a good and bad thing. Good in that they seem to care about sucking and bad in that whatever Penny and staff are coaching them is not being absorbed.
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(01-18-2022 08:35 AM)bluetiger89 Wrote:  
(01-17-2022 11:25 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-17-2022 07:49 PM)bluetiger89 Wrote:  
(01-17-2022 03:13 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-17-2022 12:19 PM)bluetiger89 Wrote:  Exactly. This isn’t about 1 player. This team has individual talent but is dysfunctional and poorly coached.

I don't know if you've actually watched any games. When we figured it out last year, we finished 14-3. When we figured it out this year, we killed Alabama and Wichita.

Throw in all the terrible losses we’ve had and you have a dysfunctional team that’s poorly coached. Shouldn’t be that hard to comprehend.

Again, I guess you haven't watched any of the games once we figured things out. Just continue to ignore everything.
As it was pointed out, we’ve lost games with Williams playing. Again, this isn’t 1 player. Since Penny took over, we’ve been wildly inconsistent. Play great 1 game and get beat by a terrible team the next. That’s coaching. Plain and simple. I’d slow your roll trumping the wins over WSU(9-7) and Bama(11-6)

Again, clearly you can't grasp very simple concepts and you don't actually watch the games. We went through a rough spot with Williams last year. Once we figured it out, we finished 14-3. This year, we went through a rough spot with Williams, but once we figured it out, we destroyed Alabama and Wichita. We weren't dysfunctional at all.

It's simple really. This is for everyone else's benefit except yours. You don't have the capacity to understand, it happens.
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(01-18-2022 10:20 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-18-2022 08:35 AM)bluetiger89 Wrote:  
(01-17-2022 11:25 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-17-2022 07:49 PM)bluetiger89 Wrote:  
(01-17-2022 03:13 PM)Stammers Wrote:  I don't know if you've actually watched any games. When we figured it out last year, we finished 14-3. When we figured it out this year, we killed Alabama and Wichita.

Throw in all the terrible losses we’ve had and you have a dysfunctional team that’s poorly coached. Shouldn’t be that hard to comprehend.

Again, I guess you haven't watched any of the games once we figured things out. Just continue to ignore everything.
As it was pointed out, we’ve lost games with Williams playing. Again, this isn’t 1 player. Since Penny took over, we’ve been wildly inconsistent. Play great 1 game and get beat by a terrible team the next. That’s coaching. Plain and simple. I’d slow your roll trumping the wins over WSU(9-7) and Bama(11-6)

Again, clearly you can't grasp very simple concepts and you don't actually watch the games. We went through a rough spot with Williams last year. Once we figured it out, we finished 14-3. This year, we went through a rough spot with Williams, but once we figured it out, we destroyed Alabama and Wichita. We weren't dysfunctional at all.

It's simple really. This is for everyone else's benefit except yours. You don't have the capacity to understand, it happens.
Last 10 games: Iowa St (L) Georgia (L) Ole Miss (L) Murray St (L) Alabama (W) Tulane (L) Wichita St (W) Tulsa (W) Cincy (W) UCF (L) ECU(L)

We figured it out until we didn’t figure it out. Last game, we figured it out for 38 minutes until we didn’t for the last 2. Even with various players out we have more talent than anyone we’ve played. This is a coaching problem. I hope that Penny has an open mind and listens to the old guy sitting a couple of chairs down from him.
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