(01-17-2022 06:47 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(01-17-2022 06:09 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(01-17-2022 03:31 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  In the eyes of a Frenchman he might be regarded as a hero. A hero in the likes of Slow Joe, nothing there to be thought of as a hero. He gave the Germans free rein when he appeased Hitler. A total dud, just like Kerry with the Iranians and that great treaty with them. I'm being facetious here about it being great.

Exactly. He wasn’t exactly hiding it. Jews from all over Europe were fleeing the continent because of his actions.


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Unfortunately, not too many left. Those that stayed were still believing that it was a passing fancy and that things would remain as they were. Poor people, how wrong they were. I know the US shut its eyes to their plight even as they knew what they were being subjected to, sort of like what's happening to the Eughirs (or however it's spelled). Even those greedy SOBs in the sports world don't care a whip because it's less money in their pockets if they don't appease the Chinese.

Yep. All the same players like LeBron, Steph Curry, and many other stars and coaches like Steve Kerr and Greg Popovich that were so angry at mean ‘ol Trump all the time. Refusing to visit the White House after championships, etc. Now look at them all. Turning a blind eye to their almighty Chinese dollar.


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The basic principles are the same today as they were back then.

Hitler and Mussolini both looked at Chamberlain as the pu$$y that he was and just gave him lip service while they were running wild behind his back because they knew damn well he wasn't going to do anything about it.

Now today enter slow Joe for Neville and Putin, XI and the Iranians for Hitler and Mussolini.

Of course hindsight is always 20/20. Chamberlain was an arrogant over confident lifelong politician as was his father. Strong arm folks through diplomacy works well when you have all the cards but not so much when a DESPERATE country such as Germany with nothing to lose enters the picture. WW2 was a continuation of WW1. Britain and France are as much to blame for the war machine Hitler was able to build for WW2 as was Germany. They decided at the Treaty of Versailles that Germany would pay the majority of all the costs of WW1. This led to hyperinflation in Germany and thus the rise of Hitler.

I, to this day, have never fully understood why this decision was made when Germany did not start WW1. The only real justification I can come to is that Germany was the strongest of the losers so let's push down anyone that might be a world power.

Chamberlain was never equipped to deal with Hitler. Chamberlain was more worried about public opinion or the mood of the Brits and the aversion of war than he was confronting Hitler. Hitler knew this and thus Chamberlain was neutered from the onset. HERO? About as much of a hero as that clown we have now as our Defense Secretary Austin withdrawing from Afghanistan. No, Chamberlain was a coward and would have given away Belgium and France as well to appease Hitler. He simply was over his head so to speak. In the end all had lost all respect for him and he was removed from office. Rightfully so.

Strange how people these days want to rewrite history. I picked up a Texas History book that all Texas schools use and was astonished on how James Fannin was portrayed a hero when clearly he was an idiot. A West Point trained idiot that refused to leave the fort in Goliad until he was completely surrounded by Santa Anna. Then decided he would leave under the cover of fog. Unfortunately for him the fog lifted mid morning and he and his troops were sitting ducks. He was executed and most of his troops would have been as well but as they were being lined up to be shot a light must've went off and they took off running into the woods and were able to escape while being shot at.