(03-07-2022 04:06 PM)emu79 Wrote:  

(03-07-2022 02:16 PM)emu steve Wrote:  Post 2 of 2.

I remember those days pretty well. I followed EMU WBB as well as MBB.

Remember us defeating I believe CMU for the 2012 MAC championship.

I watched EMU's game a few years later at TOL after which Ms Heady would be killed in an automobile crash. The game was on TV (think one of those DirecTV college game packages). Later we had the '32' game as I called. Still have photos that Andrew M. took of the players coming out of the tunnel with their '32' jerseys on.

Getting back to the coaching change. Lot of times, the 'next one over' in a successful program takes over. Will that be the story at Duke MBB 2022/23? Most expect Scheyer to be another Coach K.

EMU: We fumbled the ball when Braun left. We fumbled the ball when Verdi left. Although I like Scott, and he is a good AD, one can say EMU did fumble on Christian Spears. He was a NATURAL good fit as a MAC AD. The incumbent, next office over hire.. I heard he was not happy with the hiring process. Adios EMU.

So we were losing Verdi, Finley, Spears, etc. EMU has recovered with Scott, but WBB went into the toilet and can't get out. And as posters have been saying, I assume having a year left on his contract is the only thing Castro has going for him. Castro is essentially a de facto lame duck. Last year of his contract. Losing most of his best talent from a team with a poor record.

And going back 30+ years ago we had a president who fumbled big time.

Scott has done a great job working with Game Above and the SAPC and fund raising. But he was around for the cutting of sports. We used to bring in conference championships in sports like women's volleyball and women's basketball. Baseball has been a disaster. We have a lot of teams in rebuild mode both basketball programs volleyball women's soccer and yes maybe even football this season. We are waiting on the young and inexperienced and hope they rise to the occasion.

Yeah, it is kind of hard to parcel out Scott's handling of sports as he was tasked with cutting sports and trying to address Title IX issues. One of the bad things about being a VP, is that the AD, can get the s*it job of cutting sports. I couldn't believe the BOR simply played dumb and kind of like, "Oh, cutting sports and Title IX on the the agenda??" all the while trivial items are well known. The school president and BOR should have stepped up and took responsibility.

An AD's job is basically hiring and firing head coaches, dept. HR, fund raising, budget, compliance, scheduling, facilities management, sports info, etc.

As an administrator these functions, especially 'back office' functions, are delegated to senior staff who are responsible for day to day affairs.

I don't really follow EMU/MAC Olympic sports like volleyball, soccer, etc. (be lucky if I follow the FIFA matches this year). I have nothing to add about them.

Baseball has been down for a number of years. I have NO idea how to rate a coach in that sport at EMU.

Basically I follow the 'big 3' which are obviously FB, MBB and WBB.

Scott did not hire either C.C. OR Castro. Both were hired by Heather. Everyone seems to really like his MBB hire, Heath.

Scott's next biggie will be WBB. 2022/23 will be a very rough year and I'd assume Castro will be a lame duck unless he can pull a rabbit out of hat or somewhere.

I really feel this is like 2020/21 for MBB. Last year of a contract, lost key players, etc basically all of the ingredients for a very rough season.

(03-07-2022 04:22 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(03-07-2022 04:06 PM)emu79 Wrote:  

(03-07-2022 02:16 PM)emu steve Wrote:  Post 2 of 2.

I remember those days pretty well. I followed EMU WBB as well as MBB.

Remember us defeating I believe CMU for the 2012 MAC championship.

I watched EMU's game a few years later at TOL after which Ms Heady would be killed in an automobile crash. The game was on TV (think one of those DirecTV college game packages). Later we had the '32' game as I called. Still have photos that Andrew M. took of the players coming out of the tunnel with their '32' jerseys on.

Getting back to the coaching change. Lot of times, the 'next one over' in a successful program takes over. Will that be the story at Duke MBB 2022/23? Most expect Scheyer to be another Coach K.

EMU: We fumbled the ball when Braun left. We fumbled the ball when Verdi left. Although I like Scott, and he is a good AD, one can say EMU did fumble on Christian Spears. He was a NATURAL good fit as a MAC AD. The incumbent, next office over hire.. I heard he was not happy with the hiring process. Adios EMU.

So we were losing Verdi, Finley, Spears, etc. EMU has recovered with Scott, but WBB went into the toilet and can't get out. And as posters have been saying, I assume having a year left on his contract is the only thing Castro has going for him. Castro is essentially a de facto lame duck. Last year of his contract. Losing most of his best talent from a team with a poor record.

And going back 30+ years ago we had a president who fumbled big time.

Scott has done a great job working with Game Above and the SAPC and fund raising. But he was around for the cutting of sports. We used to bring in conference championships in sports like women's volleyball and women's basketball. Baseball has been a disaster. We have a lot of teams in rebuild mode both basketball programs volleyball women's soccer and yes maybe even football this season. We are waiting on the young and inexperienced and hope they rise to the occasion.

Yeah, it is kind of hard to parcel out Scott's handling of sports as he was tasked with cutting sports and trying to address Title IX issues. One of the bad things about being a VP, is that the AD, can get the s*it job of cutting sports. I couldn't believe the BOR simply played dumb and kind of like, "Oh, cutting sports and Title IX on the the agenda??" all the while trivial items are well known. The school president and BOR should have stepped up and took responsibility.

An AD's job is basically hiring and firing head coaches, dept. HR, fund raising, budget, compliance, scheduling, facilities management, sports info, etc.

As an administrator these functions, especially 'back office' functions, are delegated to senior staff who are responsible for day to day affairs.

I don't really follow EMU/MAC Olympic sports like volleyball, soccer, etc. (be lucky if I follow the FIFA matches this year). I have nothing to add about them.

Baseball has been down for a number of years. I have NO idea how to rate a coach in that sport at EMU.

Basically I follow the 'big 3' which are obviously FB, MBB and WBB.

Scott did not hire either C.C. OR Castro. Both were hired by Heather. Everyone seems to really like his MBB hire, Heath.

Scott's next biggie will be WBB. 2022/23 will be a very rough year and I'd assume Castro will be a lame duck unless he can pull a rabbit out of hat or somewhere.

I really feel this is like 2020/21 for MBB. Last year of a contract, lost key players, etc basically all of the ingredients for a very rough season.

I appreciate all of your info Steve.

It, to me, seems that the majority of the issues you bring up with Verdi actually comes after his decision to leave. If he handled the decision poorly, okay, I get that. And it obviously caused a ripple effect on the rest of thep rogram and athletic departmnet. But seems to me like that goes on Lyke more than anyone else. Was Finley not chosen because she had sour grapes towards Verdi for leaving like he did?

I have heard all of that drama before (players wanting one assistant over the other, etc.) and thought there was more on the table than that. Maybe that is just in the info you choose to keep for yourself (and that's perfectly okay).

Full moratorium on the season will be on its way soon.

(03-07-2022 05:22 PM)truEMU07 Wrote:  

(03-07-2022 04:22 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(03-07-2022 04:06 PM)emu79 Wrote:  

(03-07-2022 02:16 PM)emu steve Wrote:  Post 2 of 2.

I remember those days pretty well. I followed EMU WBB as well as MBB.

Remember us defeating I believe CMU for the 2012 MAC championship.

I watched EMU's game a few years later at TOL after which Ms Heady would be killed in an automobile crash. The game was on TV (think one of those DirecTV college game packages). Later we had the '32' game as I called. Still have photos that Andrew M. took of the players coming out of the tunnel with their '32' jerseys on.

Getting back to the coaching change. Lot of times, the 'next one over' in a successful program takes over. Will that be the story at Duke MBB 2022/23? Most expect Scheyer to be another Coach K.

EMU: We fumbled the ball when Braun left. We fumbled the ball when Verdi left. Although I like Scott, and he is a good AD, one can say EMU did fumble on Christian Spears. He was a NATURAL good fit as a MAC AD. The incumbent, next office over hire.. I heard he was not happy with the hiring process. Adios EMU.

So we were losing Verdi, Finley, Spears, etc. EMU has recovered with Scott, but WBB went into the toilet and can't get out. And as posters have been saying, I assume having a year left on his contract is the only thing Castro has going for him. Castro is essentially a de facto lame duck. Last year of his contract. Losing most of his best talent from a team with a poor record.

And going back 30+ years ago we had a president who fumbled big time.

Scott has done a great job working with Game Above and the SAPC and fund raising. But he was around for the cutting of sports. We used to bring in conference championships in sports like women's volleyball and women's basketball. Baseball has been a disaster. We have a lot of teams in rebuild mode both basketball programs volleyball women's soccer and yes maybe even football this season. We are waiting on the young and inexperienced and hope they rise to the occasion.

Yeah, it is kind of hard to parcel out Scott's handling of sports as he was tasked with cutting sports and trying to address Title IX issues. One of the bad things about being a VP, is that the AD, can get the s*it job of cutting sports. I couldn't believe the BOR simply played dumb and kind of like, "Oh, cutting sports and Title IX on the the agenda??" all the while trivial items are well known. The school president and BOR should have stepped up and took responsibility.

An AD's job is basically hiring and firing head coaches, dept. HR, fund raising, budget, compliance, scheduling, facilities management, sports info, etc.

As an administrator these functions, especially 'back office' functions, are delegated to senior staff who are responsible for day to day affairs.

I don't really follow EMU/MAC Olympic sports like volleyball, soccer, etc. (be lucky if I follow the FIFA matches this year). I have nothing to add about them.

Baseball has been down for a number of years. I have NO idea how to rate a coach in that sport at EMU.

Basically I follow the 'big 3' which are obviously FB, MBB and WBB.

Scott did not hire either C.C. OR Castro. Both were hired by Heather. Everyone seems to really like his MBB hire, Heath.

Scott's next biggie will be WBB. 2022/23 will be a very rough year and I'd assume Castro will be a lame duck unless he can pull a rabbit out of hat or somewhere.

I really feel this is like 2020/21 for MBB. Last year of a contract, lost key players, etc basically all of the ingredients for a very rough season.

I appreciate all of your info Steve.

It, to me, seems that the majority of the issues you bring up with Verdi actually comes after his decision to leave. If he handled the decision poorly, okay, I get that. And it obviously caused a ripple effect on the rest of thep rogram and athletic departmnet. But seems to me like that goes on Lyke more than anyone else. Was Finley not chosen because she had sour grapes towards Verdi for leaving like he did?

I have heard all of that drama before (players wanting one assistant over the other, etc.) and thought there was more on the table than that. Maybe that is just in the info you choose to keep for yourself (and that's perfectly okay).

Full moratorium on the season will be on its way soon.

I pretty well indicated what I know about the events we are discussing about Verdi leaving and hiring a new coach.

As I indicated, Verdi left EVERYONE high and dry with his abrupt decision to leave.

I do not know the details on how Heather made the choice she did to hire Verdi's successor.

My question would simply be, why not Finley? And this is NOT meant to be snarky, but why Castro?

What I mean how did the selection process go that Castro was selected and Finley was not?

As we know in the MAC, esp. FB, the HC leaves for a better job, and the assoc HC is usually hired. Couple of schools come to mind.

The sorrow is that, IMHO, we had a really, really good staff with Verdi, Finley, Thibault, etc. In 'hindsight' (?) that was an incredibly talented MAC staff. Normally MAC assistant coaches don't end up being assoc HCs at HM programs.

Last thought: An unsuccessful hire typically sets a program back say 5+ years. We saw it with Boone, Ramsey, Ron English (FB), etc.

(03-07-2022 04:06 PM)emu79 Wrote:  

(03-07-2022 02:16 PM)emu steve Wrote:  Post 2 of 2.

I remember those days pretty well. I followed EMU WBB as well as MBB.

Remember us defeating I believe CMU for the 2012 MAC championship.

I watched EMU's game a few years later at TOL after which Ms Heady would be killed in an automobile crash. The game was on TV (think one of those DirecTV college game packages). Later we had the '32' game as I called. Still have photos that Andrew M. took of the players coming out of the tunnel with their '32' jerseys on.

Getting back to the coaching change. Lot of times, the 'next one over' in a successful program takes over. Will that be the story at Duke MBB 2022/23? Most expect Scheyer to be another Coach K.

EMU: We fumbled the ball when Braun left. We fumbled the ball when Verdi left. Although I like Scott, and he is a good AD, one can say EMU did fumble on Christian Spears. He was a NATURAL good fit as a MAC AD. The incumbent, next office over hire.. I heard he was not happy with the hiring process. Adios EMU.

So we were losing Verdi, Finley, Spears, etc. EMU has recovered with Scott, but WBB went into the toilet and can't get out. And as posters have been saying, I assume having a year left on his contract is the only thing Castro has going for him. Castro is essentially a de facto lame duck. Last year of his contract. Losing most of his best talent from a team with a poor record.

And going back 30+ years ago we had a president who fumbled big time.

Scott has done a great job working with Game Above and the SAPC and fund raising. But he was around for the cutting of sports. We used to bring in conference championships in sports like women's volleyball and women's basketball. Baseball has been a disaster. We have a lot of teams in rebuild mode both basketball programs volleyball women's soccer and yes maybe even football this season. We are waiting on the young and inexperienced and hope they rise to the occasion.

'79, I agree 100% with Scott's work with GameAbove and improving faciilities.

I've already had this dichotomy for success of the athletic department and programs.

1). A school needs the best facilities it can get, esp. if the money comes from fund raising. Student-athletes play, train, etc. and literally spend a good chunk of their life in those facilities. This is money and vision.

2). A good hires. This can be a crap shoot. C.C. wasn't our #1 choice. We had a verbal agreement with Dino Babers until BG swooped down and hired him. Remembering back, think we supposed had an agreement with Brian Kelly before CMU came in late and hired him. These choices get an AD a bigger job or get him fired if he misses on too many hires. We lost Kelly and Babers to programs which won more often and had better facilities.

BTW, Verdi's team won the A-10 championship I believe yesterday.

https://atlantic10.com/sports/2021/11/22...Champ.aspx

We have a 6'3" guard signed!

(05-18-2022 08:12 AM)emussuperfan Wrote:  We have a 6'3" guard signed!

Carl we could have signed Diana Turassi, Elena Delle Donne and Sue Bird and I wouldn't get excited about it with this coaching staff.

https://emueagles.com/news/2022/5/17/wom...-2022.aspx

https://emueagles.com/news/2021/11/10/wo...g-day.aspx

So there will be a total of six newcomers on the roster this upcoming season.

Will Castro be able to get above .500? I believe this is his last contract year.

(05-18-2022 10:10 AM)truEMU07 Wrote:  

(05-18-2022 08:12 AM)emussuperfan Wrote:  We have a 6'3" guard signed!

Carl we could have signed Diana Turassi, Elena Delle Donne and Sue Bird and I wouldn't get excited about it with this coaching staff.

Not excited about it but that we have trouble signing a 6 foot center. Now we have a 6'3" guard!

(05-19-2022 05:23 AM)emu79 Wrote:  https://emueagles.com/news/2022/5/17/wom...-2022.aspx

https://emueagles.com/news/2021/11/10/wo...g-day.aspx

So there will be a total of six newcomers on the roster this upcoming season.

Will Castro be able to get above .500? I believe this is his last contract year.

We had quite possibly the most talented roster of the Castro campaign last year. Now six newcomers?

Our benefit is that some of the other MAC schools are down/going through coaching channges. Maybe that will benefit us.

(05-19-2022 07:43 AM)truEMU07 Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 05:23 AM)emu79 Wrote:  https://emueagles.com/news/2022/5/17/wom...-2022.aspx

https://emueagles.com/news/2021/11/10/wo...g-day.aspx

So there will be a total of six newcomers on the roster this upcoming season.

Will Castro be able to get above .500? I believe this is his last contract year.

We had quite possibly the most talented roster of the Castro campaign last year. Now six newcomers?

Our benefit is that some of the other MAC schools are down/going through coaching channges. Maybe that will benefit us.

Maybe in women's but I think MAC men's hoops coaching improved in the off season.

(05-19-2022 07:47 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 07:43 AM)truEMU07 Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 05:23 AM)emu79 Wrote:  https://emueagles.com/news/2022/5/17/wom...-2022.aspx

https://emueagles.com/news/2021/11/10/wo...g-day.aspx

So there will be a total of six newcomers on the roster this upcoming season.

Will Castro be able to get above .500? I believe this is his last contract year.

We had quite possibly the most talented roster of the Castro campaign last year. Now six newcomers?

Our benefit is that some of the other MAC schools are down/going through coaching channges. Maybe that will benefit us.

Maybe in women's but I think MAC men's hoops coaching improved in the off season.

Well... this is a women's basketball thread after all. Women's transfers are much more difficult to find than the men's side, so maybe some big time players have joined the league. BUT

-Central is WAY down and has had a mass exodus.
-Buffalo lost the best coach in the conference. I'm sure the new coach will be good, but there's always a chance of an adjustment period.
-Ohio lost the best player in program history who led the team in scoring and rebounding AND their third leading scorer. There's no recovering from that immediately.
-The rest of the league was perfectly average last year. Most of the 3-8 seeds had well-balanced teams that may have lost some but will have some firepower returning.

Talked to to Castro today event to watch the team practice. Going to depend on my work schedule.

(05-19-2022 08:08 AM)truEMU07 Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 07:47 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 07:43 AM)truEMU07 Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 05:23 AM)emu79 Wrote:  https://emueagles.com/news/2022/5/17/wom...-2022.aspx

https://emueagles.com/news/2021/11/10/wo...g-day.aspx

So there will be a total of six newcomers on the roster this upcoming season.

Will Castro be able to get above .500? I believe this is his last contract year.

We had quite possibly the most talented roster of the Castro campaign last year. Now six newcomers?

Our benefit is that some of the other MAC schools are down/going through coaching channges. Maybe that will benefit us.

Maybe in women's but I think MAC men's hoops coaching improved in the off season.

Well... this is a women's basketball thread after all. Women's transfers are much more difficult to find than the men's side, so maybe some big time players have joined the league. BUT

-Central is WAY down and has had a mass exodus.
-Buffalo lost the best coach in the conference. I'm sure the new coach will be good, but there's always a chance of an adjustment period.
-Ohio lost the best player in program history who led the team in scoring and rebounding AND their third leading scorer. There's no recovering from that immediately.
-The rest of the league was perfectly average last year. Most of the 3-8 seeds had well-balanced teams that may have lost some but will have some firepower returning.

CMU will be horrible, just as they were last year. I agree that Ohio will be worse, although the Bobcats struggled quite a bit last year due to injuries and illness. Toledo will be much improved, which is saying a lot since the Rockets only lost one conference game last year. (Toledo returns its top ten players and adds two transfers - a former starter from Akron and a grad transfer 1,400 point career scorer from Long Beach State.) Ball State, Kent State, and Bowling Green should be strong, and I think that Northern Illinois will be good as well. Buffalo will not be as good as last year, but their new coach did a great job recruiting transfers, so Buffalo will have quite a bit of talent. I don't think that the conference will be down from last year.

(07-02-2022 08:09 PM)Lester Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 08:08 AM)truEMU07 Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 07:47 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 07:43 AM)truEMU07 Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 05:23 AM)emu79 Wrote:  https://emueagles.com/news/2022/5/17/wom...-2022.aspx

https://emueagles.com/news/2021/11/10/wo...g-day.aspx

So there will be a total of six newcomers on the roster this upcoming season.

Will Castro be able to get above .500? I believe this is his last contract year.

We had quite possibly the most talented roster of the Castro campaign last year. Now six newcomers?

Our benefit is that some of the other MAC schools are down/going through coaching channges. Maybe that will benefit us.

Maybe in women's but I think MAC men's hoops coaching improved in the off season.

Well... this is a women's basketball thread after all. Women's transfers are much more difficult to find than the men's side, so maybe some big time players have joined the league. BUT

-Central is WAY down and has had a mass exodus.
-Buffalo lost the best coach in the conference. I'm sure the new coach will be good, but there's always a chance of an adjustment period.
-Ohio lost the best player in program history who led the team in scoring and rebounding AND their third leading scorer. There's no recovering from that immediately.
-The rest of the league was perfectly average last year. Most of the 3-8 seeds had well-balanced teams that may have lost some but will have some firepower returning.

CMU will be horrible, just as they were last year. I agree that Ohio will be worse, although the Bobcats struggled quite a bit last year due to injuries and illness. Toledo will be much improved, which is saying a lot since the Rockets only lost one conference game last year. (Toledo returns its top ten players and adds two transfers - a former starter from Akron and a grad transfer 1,400 point career scorer from Long Beach State.) Ball State, Kent State, and Bowling Green should be strong, and I think that Northern Illinois will be good as well. Buffalo will not be as good as last year, but their new coach did a great job recruiting transfers, so Buffalo will have quite a bit of talent. I don't think that the conference will be down from last year.

Which means, unless some drastic changes have been made in coaching philosphy, we will be struggling to finish better than 5th. I think that maybe some of the teams will be down, but agree Lester that as a whole the conference will be on par with what it was last seaosn.

It seems to me that Castro has recruited well over the years, but he has not found a way to win, even with good players. I assume this will be his last year.

(07-06-2022 01:42 PM)Lester Wrote:  It seems to me that Castro has recruited well over the years, but he has not found a way to win, even with good players. I assume this will be his last year.

I'd have to imagine if he were being renewed we would be hearing about it soon.

Seeing as how his tenure has gone I find it VERY hard to believe he will get a new contract. But I could be wrong.