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RE: Which schools actually belong in Division 1?
(01-22-2022 02:32 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  
(01-22-2022 02:16 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  
(01-22-2022 01:19 AM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  Everyone we have now and UAA, UAF so we have every state represented in D-I. Put them in the Big Sky. MIT, Johns Hopkins in the IVY. Along w/ whoever the OVC and NEC are gonna need after all the dominos, Like USI, GVSU, Indianapolis, Lincoln-Memorial, New Haven, Stonehill, Bentley. I also wanna see UWF in the SLC or the ASUN.

So 370.

It's my wish right. It still has 500 less schools than David St's D-I
Don't forget UPR-Rio Pedras and UPR-Mayaguez!! That's the flagship university for Puerto Rico and its land grant university.

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UPR-Bayamon too. Are they still counted as D-II schools? So if PR ever got statehood I'd have to. ASUN needs to fit all of them or should I just take Mayaguez? I mean the Tarzans is a hell of a team name.

Yes, the NCAA counts them. I don't believe the PR schools are full members, more along the lines of a corresponding member. I can never find accurate and corroborating information on their status. I don't count them. Do they have official athletic sites as we are accustomed to with athletic logos and branding guides? Wasn't Cayey a previous member?

They can never be selected to NCAA postseason because they do not play the minimum number of D2 contests in any sport to qualify. Although in 2016, the Puerto Rico-Rio Piedras women's cross country team did advance to the national meet. To note that there is no selection process in D2 cross country, every school who wants to do so runs in the regional meet with the top finishers advancing.

It's 1,030 miles from Miami to San Juan. Two of the schools are in the San Juan suburbs and Mayaguez is on the west coast. The Sunshine State would be the logical conference to join but all its members are private. The Peach Belt has a private-public mix of schools and the distance doesn't really matter once you get on a plane. Also; Puerto Rico is in the Atlantic Time Zone, 1 hour ahead of Eastern Time. The average distance for the Alaska and Hawai'i schools is ~2,000 miles to their respective conference mates and it's a shorter distance from Puerto Rico to the mainland; even Atlanta is just 1,540 miles from San Juan.
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RE: Which schools actually belong in Division 1?
(01-22-2022 04:56 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(01-22-2022 02:32 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  
(01-22-2022 02:16 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  
(01-22-2022 01:19 AM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  Everyone we have now and UAA, UAF so we have every state represented in D-I. Put them in the Big Sky. MIT, Johns Hopkins in the IVY. Along w/ whoever the OVC and NEC are gonna need after all the dominos, Like USI, GVSU, Indianapolis, Lincoln-Memorial, New Haven, Stonehill, Bentley. I also wanna see UWF in the SLC or the ASUN.

So 370.

It's my wish right. It still has 500 less schools than David St's D-I
Don't forget UPR-Rio Pedras and UPR-Mayaguez!! That's the flagship university for Puerto Rico and its land grant university.

Sent from my moto g(7) power using Tapatalk
UPR-Bayamon too. Are they still counted as D-II schools? So if PR ever got statehood I'd have to. ASUN needs to fit all of them or should I just take Mayaguez? I mean the Tarzans is a hell of a team name.

We could bring in Alberta, Saskatchewan and British Columbia and add U of British Columbia, Simon Frazier, Calgary, Alberta, Saskatchewan and Regina.

No thank you!! At least Puerto Rico is an American territory!!! I'm cool with them coming in to D1. Canada??? They can stay D2.
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RE: Which schools actually belong in Division 1?
(01-22-2022 07:47 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  
(01-22-2022 04:56 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(01-22-2022 02:32 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  
(01-22-2022 02:16 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  
(01-22-2022 01:19 AM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  Everyone we have now and UAA, UAF so we have every state represented in D-I. Put them in the Big Sky. MIT, Johns Hopkins in the IVY. Along w/ whoever the OVC and NEC are gonna need after all the dominos, Like USI, GVSU, Indianapolis, Lincoln-Memorial, New Haven, Stonehill, Bentley. I also wanna see UWF in the SLC or the ASUN.

So 370.

It's my wish right. It still has 500 less schools than David St's D-I
Don't forget UPR-Rio Pedras and UPR-Mayaguez!! That's the flagship university for Puerto Rico and its land grant university.

Sent from my moto g(7) power using Tapatalk
UPR-Bayamon too. Are they still counted as D-II schools? So if PR ever got statehood I'd have to. ASUN needs to fit all of them or should I just take Mayaguez? I mean the Tarzans is a hell of a team name.

We could bring in Alberta, Saskatchewan and British Columbia and add U of British Columbia, Simon Frazier, Calgary, Alberta, Saskatchewan and Regina.

No thank you!! At least Puerto Rico is an American territory!!! I'm cool with them coming in to D1. Canada??? They can stay D2.

Well I'm presuming we annex them as the 51st, 52nd and 53rd states (or 52, 53 and 54 after PR).04-cheers
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RE: Which schools actually belong in Division 1?
(01-22-2022 07:41 PM)AZcats Wrote:  
(01-22-2022 02:32 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  
(01-22-2022 02:16 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  
(01-22-2022 01:19 AM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  Everyone we have now and UAA, UAF so we have every state represented in D-I. Put them in the Big Sky. MIT, Johns Hopkins in the IVY. Along w/ whoever the OVC and NEC are gonna need after all the dominos, Like USI, GVSU, Indianapolis, Lincoln-Memorial, New Haven, Stonehill, Bentley. I also wanna see UWF in the SLC or the ASUN.

So 370.

It's my wish right. It still has 500 less schools than David St's D-I
Don't forget UPR-Rio Pedras and UPR-Mayaguez!! That's the flagship university for Puerto Rico and its land grant university.

Sent from my moto g(7) power using Tapatalk
UPR-Bayamon too. Are they still counted as D-II schools? So if PR ever got statehood I'd have to. ASUN needs to fit all of them or should I just take Mayaguez? I mean the Tarzans is a hell of a team name.

Yes, the NCAA counts them. I don't believe the PR schools are full members, more along the lines of a corresponding member. I can never find accurate and corroborating information on their status. I don't count them. Do they have official athletic sites as we are accustomed to with athletic logos and branding guides? Wasn't Cayey a previous member?

They can never be selected to NCAA postseason because they do not play the minimum number of D2 contests in any sport to qualify. Although in 2016, the Puerto Rico-Rio Piedras women's cross country team did advance to the national meet. To note that there is no selection process in D2 cross country, every school who wants to do so runs in the regional meet with the top finishers advancing.

It's 1,030 miles from Miami to San Juan. Two of the schools are in the San Juan suburbs and Mayaguez is on the west coast. The Sunshine State would be the logical conference to join but all its members are private. The Peach Belt has a private-public mix of schools and the distance doesn't really matter once you get on a plane. Also; Puerto Rico is in the Atlantic Time Zone, 1 hour ahead of Eastern Time. The average distance for the Alaska and Hawai'i schools is ~2,000 miles to their respective conference mates and it's a shorter distance from Puerto Rico to the mainland; even Atlanta is just 1,540 miles from San Juan.
Cayey was but they either dropped sports or the school, a long time ago. They might have been taken off the D-II map before I took over and for sure well before I passed it on to inkblot
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RE: Which schools actually belong in Division 1?
(01-22-2022 08:44 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(01-22-2022 07:47 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  
(01-22-2022 04:56 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(01-22-2022 02:32 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  
(01-22-2022 02:16 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  Don't forget UPR-Rio Pedras and UPR-Mayaguez!! That's the flagship university for Puerto Rico and its land grant university.

Sent from my moto g(7) power using Tapatalk
UPR-Bayamon too. Are they still counted as D-II schools? So if PR ever got statehood I'd have to. ASUN needs to fit all of them or should I just take Mayaguez? I mean the Tarzans is a hell of a team name.

We could bring in Alberta, Saskatchewan and British Columbia and add U of British Columbia, Simon Frazier, Calgary, Alberta, Saskatchewan and Regina.

No thank you!! At least Puerto Rico is an American territory!!! I'm cool with them coming in to D1. Canada??? They can stay D2.

Well I'm presuming we annex them as the 51st, 52nd and 53rd states (or 52, 53 and 54 after PR).04-cheers
ok. Alright I can see that. 04-cheers
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RE: Which schools actually belong in Division 1?
(01-23-2022 02:27 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  
(01-22-2022 08:44 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(01-22-2022 07:47 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  
(01-22-2022 04:56 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(01-22-2022 02:32 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  UPR-Bayamon too. Are they still counted as D-II schools? So if PR ever got statehood I'd have to. ASUN needs to fit all of them or should I just take Mayaguez? I mean the Tarzans is a hell of a team name.

We could bring in Alberta, Saskatchewan and British Columbia and add U of British Columbia, Simon Frazier, Calgary, Alberta, Saskatchewan and Regina.

No thank you!! At least Puerto Rico is an American territory!!! I'm cool with them coming in to D1. Canada??? They can stay D2.

Well I'm presuming we annex them as the 51st, 52nd and 53rd states (or 52, 53 and 54 after PR).04-cheers
ok. Alright I can see that. 04-cheers

It's my fantasy D-I I decide. Then we gotta add Guam if you guys complain about the Canucks. lol
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RE: Which schools actually belong in Division 1?
(01-21-2022 08:52 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  2022 is going to be a transformative year in college sports. It is very possible by July 1, players will be getting paid for the 2022-23 school year, and a lot of schools will have to difficult decisions to make. Also-as I heard on Matt Brown's podcast-we could see a world where AQ bids go away in basketball which could cut the wheat from the chaff.

In my opinion the following types of schools should be in Division 1
A) Any state flagship that is already Division 1 (e.g. no Alaska-Fairbanks)
B) Most land grands that are already Division 1 (Oregon State, Oklahoma State, etc.)
C) Any major technical school (Georgia Tech, Texas Tech, Virginia Tech)
D) Any major city school (Pittsburgh, Louisville, Cincy, etc.)
E) Any major state directional (UCF, ECU, USF, etc.)
F) The Ivies and service academies if they should so choose
G) Major private institutions
H) Academically well-known privates
I) Other schools that have sustained success in basketball

Here are the schools by state that I think should remain Division 1 (I'm going to offend all of you so here goes):

Alabama: Alabama, UAB, Auburn
Arizona: Arizona, Arizona State
Arkansas: Arkansas, Arkansas State
California: California, UCLA, Fresno State, Loyola Marymount, Pepperdine, St. Mary's, San Diego State, San Francisco, San Jose State, Santa Clara, USC, Stanford
Colorado: Colorado, Colorado State, Denver, Air Force
Connecticut: Connecticut, Yale
Delaware: Delaware
District of Columbia: George Washington, Georgetown, Howard
Florida: UCF, Florida, Florida State, Miami, South Florida
Georgia: Georgia, Georgia Tech, Georgia State
Hawaii: Hawaii
Idaho: Boise State, Idaho
Illinois: Bradley, DePaul, Illinois, Illinois State, Loyola, Northern Illinois, Northwestern, Southern Illinois
Indiana: Butler, Indiana, Indiana State, Notre Dame, Purdue
Iowa: Drake, Iowa, Iowa State, Northern Iowa
Kansas: Kansas, Kansas State, Wichita State
Kentucky: Kentucky, Louisville, Murray State, Western Kentucky
Louisiana: Grambling State, Louisiana, LSU, LaTech, Southern, Tulane
Maine: Maine
Maryland: Loyola, Maryland, Navy
Massachusetts: BC, BU, Harvard, Holy Cross, UMass, Northeastern
Michigan: Michigan, Michigan State
Minnesota: Minnesota
Mississippi: Jackson State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Southern Miss
Missouri: Missouri, Missouri State, St. Louis
Montana: Montana, Montana State
Nebraska: Creighton, Nebraska
Nevada: Nevada, UNLV
New Hampshire: Dartmouth, New Hampshire
New Jersey: Monmouth, Princeton, Rutgers, Seton Hall
New Mexico: New Mexico, New Mexico State
New York: Buffalo, Columbia, Cornell, Fordham, Hofstra, Iona, St. Bonaventure, St. John's, Stony Brook, Syracuse, Army
North Carolina: Appalachian State, Davidson, Duke, East Carolina, UNC, Charlotte, NC State, Wake Forest
North Dakota: North Dakota, North Dakota State
Ohio: Cincinnati, Dayton, Ohio, Ohio State, Xavier
Oklahoma: Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Tulsa
Oregon: Oregon, Oregon State
Pennsylvania: Drexel, Penn, Penn State, Pittsburgh, St. Joseph's, Temple, Villanova
Rhode Island: Brown, Providence, Rhode Island
South Carolina: College of Charleston, Clemson, Coastal Carolina, South Carolina
South Dakota: South Dakota, South Dakota State
Tennessee: Belmont, Memphis, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Texas: Baylor, Houston, Rice, SMU, Stephen F. Austin, Texas A&M, Texas, TCU, UTEP, Texas Tech
Utah: BYU, Utah, Utah State
Vermont: Vermont
Virginia: George Mason, Hampton, James Madison, Liberty, Old Dominion, Richmond, Virginia, VCU, Virginia Tech, William & Mary
Washington: Gonzaga, Washington, Washington State
West Virginia: Marshall, West Virginia
Wisconsin: Marquette, Wisconsin
Wyoming: Wyoming

Close but no cigar: FAU, FIU, Evansville, Valparaiso, Morehead State, Towson, Bucknell, Winthrop, North Texas, Quinnipiac

Just made it in: San Jose State, NIU, SIU, UNI, College of Charleston, Georgia State

Total schools remaining in Division 1: 187. March Madness would still exist in its current form:

Division 1-A schools: 113 (12-team playoff)
Division 1-AA schools: 42 (8-team playoff)
Non-football schools: 32

Just curious but the Sacramento-Stockton DMA is the 20th largest DMA in the country with 1.4M people in it. Don’t you think that area deserves at least one team. My guess is you need to include UOP, SacState or both as both Sacramento and Stockton are large cities.
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RE: Which schools actually belong in Division 1?
Even though this a ridiculous list, we make the cut..but Albany 03-lmfao
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