School, First FBS Year, First Year Record

Nevada 1992 7-5
Northeast Louisiana (ULM) 1994 3-8
North Texas 1995 2-9
UAB 1996 5-6
UCF 1996 5-6
Boise State 1996 2-10
Marshall 1997 10-3
Buffalo 1999 0-11
MTSU 1999 3-8
UCONN 2000 3-8
South Florida 2001 8-3
Troy 2002 4-8
FIU 2006 0-12
FAU 2006 5-7
WKU 2009 0-12
South Alabama 2012 2-11
Texas State 2012 4-8
UMASS 2012 1-11
UTSA 2012 8-4
Georgia State 2013 0-12
Georgia Southern 2014 9-3
ODU 2014 6-6
App State 2014 7-5
Charlotte 2015 2-10
Coastal Carolina 2017 3-9
Liberty 2018 6-6

I would really like to hear the feedback from any FCS call up, based on history, how do you think you will perform your first year? Which school on this list do you feel you are the most similar to?

Without a schedule its hard to guess.

JMU with more SBC teams to play should be over 500. Potential Conference games against sub 500 ODU, USM, troy state, GaSo, TxSt, ULM, Ark St and South

Sam and JSU will have more OOC games and less sub 500 conference games. If today, FIU and LaTech with losing records. Plus one will win their game.

Sam and JSU are walking into a lot hard conference schedule with two games vs JMU has potentially eight games against sub 500 teams.

(01-05-2022 09:05 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  Without a schedule its hard to guess.

JMU with more SBC teams to play should be over 500. Potential Conference games against sub 500 ODU, USM, troy state, GaSo, TxSt, ULM, Ark St and South

Sam and JSU will have more OOC games and less sub 500 conference games. If today, FIU and LaTech with losing records. Plus one will win their game.

Sam and JSU are walking into a lot hard conference schedule with two games vs JMU has potentially eight games against sub 500 teams.

From what I understand, Sam Houston has a prolific offense, but I actually see it quite opposite from you. I think the new Conference USA will be a butter cupcake schedule, so you could see Jacksonville State and Sam Houston play to 500. JMU is going to really struggle, and I could see them winning three games

(01-05-2022 09:10 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 09:05 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  Without a schedule its hard to guess.

JMU with more SBC teams to play should be over 500. Potential Conference games against sub 500 ODU, USM, troy state, GaSo, TxSt, ULM, Ark St and South

Sam and JSU will have more OOC games and less sub 500 conference games. If today, FIU and LaTech with losing records. Plus one will win their game.

Sam and JSU are walking into a lot hard conference schedule with two games vs JMU has potentially eight games against sub 500 teams.

From what I understand, Sam Houston has a prolific offense, but I actually see it quite opposite from you. I think the new Conference USA will be a butter cupcake schedule, so you could see Jacksonville State and Sam Houston play to 500. JMU is going to really struggle, and I could see them winning three games

Amazing a potential conference schedule with 2 sub 500 teams vs one with 8 and you see the one with 2 as being easier?

JMU will be fine in SBC.

(01-05-2022 09:05 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  Without a schedule its hard to guess.

JMU with more SBC teams to play should be over 500. Potential Conference games against sub 500 ODU, USM, troy state, GaSo, TxSt, ULM, Ark St and South

Sam and JSU will have more OOC games and less sub 500 conference games. If today, FIU and LaTech with losing records. Plus one will win their game.

Sam and JSU are walking into a lot hard conference schedule with two games vs JMU has potentially eight games against sub 500 teams.

You think JMU is playing in SBC West? Haven’t heard about that.

If the Sun Belt starts in 2022, like some are projecting, then I guess JMU would start their first year in 2023.

That Sun Belt East division is going to be pretty tough. Grayson McCall will be a senior, so Coastal will be good. App State is always good.. Marshall should be improved, it looks like Georgia State's turning it around. And ODU is on the rise.

If CUSA 4.0 sticks with 9, you could play everybody in the conference, but with such a widespread out conference, I could still see CUSA 4.0 add three teams to get to two divisions and 12 teams.

Boy, it would be a pretty impressive thing if they were able to get the Dakotas on board.

On JSU, who knows we have a new coach and I know little about him. If he doesnt win he will be gone soon and probably the same if he wins. According to history he is an offensive coach.

Sam will win some games and bring a good brand of football. Team today would be able to compete with most CUSA teams. This year version Sam is quite a bit better than JSU.

(01-05-2022 09:13 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 09:05 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  Without a schedule its hard to guess.

JMU with more SBC teams to play should be over 500. Potential Conference games against sub 500 ODU, USM, troy state, GaSo, TxSt, ULM, Ark St and South

Sam and JSU will have more OOC games and less sub 500 conference games. If today, FIU and LaTech with losing records. Plus one will win their game.

Sam and JSU are walking into a lot hard conference schedule with two games vs JMU has potentially eight games against sub 500 teams.

You think JMU is playing in SBC West? Haven’t heard about that.

No idea where or who they are playing. Just assume they will play other members of their conference, cant play them all but surly these will be potential options.

(01-05-2022 09:18 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 09:13 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 09:05 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  Without a schedule its hard to guess.

JMU with more SBC teams to play should be over 500. Potential Conference games against sub 500 ODU, USM, troy state, GaSo, TxSt, ULM, Ark St and South

Sam and JSU will have more OOC games and less sub 500 conference games. If today, FIU and LaTech with losing records. Plus one will win their game.

Sam and JSU are walking into a lot hard conference schedule with two games vs JMU has potentially eight games against sub 500 teams.

You think JMU is playing in SBC West? Haven’t heard about that.

No idea where or who they are playing. Just assume they will play other members of their conference, cant play them all but surly these will be potential options.

Really?

(01-05-2022 09:15 AM)rileylives Wrote:  If the Sun Belt starts in 2022, like some are projecting, then I guess JMU would start their first year in 2023.

That Sun Belt East division is going to be pretty tough. Grayson McCall will be a senior, so Coastal will be good. App State is always good.. Marshall should be improved, it looks like Georgia State's turning it around. And ODU is on the rise.

If CUSA 4.0 sticks with 9, you could play everybody in the conference, but with such a widespread out conference, I could still see CUSA 4.0 add three teams to get to two divisions and 12 teams.

Boy, it would be a pretty impressive thing if they were able to get the Dakotas on board.

If the Dakotas are added and our team doesnt change mark us down with two Ls. NDSU and SDSU are very good with NDSU obliviously the consistently better one. NDSU would/could come in as the league favorite.

The point of this thread is to show you the likelihood that you are going to fail out the gate, it's very rare for teams to come up here and actually play better than .500 ball.

And that's okay because that's what we expect, you're going to be looked at as a win.

(01-05-2022 09:20 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 09:18 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 09:13 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 09:05 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  Without a schedule its hard to guess.

JMU with more SBC teams to play should be over 500. Potential Conference games against sub 500 ODU, USM, troy state, GaSo, TxSt, ULM, Ark St and South

Sam and JSU will have more OOC games and less sub 500 conference games. If today, FIU and LaTech with losing records. Plus one will win their game.

Sam and JSU are walking into a lot hard conference schedule with two games vs JMU has potentially eight games against sub 500 teams.

You think JMU is playing in SBC West? Haven’t heard about that.

No idea where or who they are playing. Just assume they will play other members of their conference, cant play them all but surly these will be potential options.

Really?

Normally how it works. If you know there schedule post it.
No way to hide the SBC will have several team which were under 500 this year.

(01-05-2022 09:05 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  Sam and JSU will have more OOC games and less sub 500 conference games.

What?

Unless the SB goes to a 9 game conference schedule (which I wouldn't expect) they'll all have the same number of OOC games. They may all take different approaches to that OOC scheduling, but there is no way to know that.

I agree that while they're all solid FCS programs, and should be fine overall (and may even have initial success in like year 1 or 2 briefly) it's probably going to be harder than you think.

Both the SB and the new CUSA will have historically weak programs that the new FCS teams will get to play, but it's going to be bumpy I think for all 3.

I'd care less about the first year record of an FCS callup. I know WKU took their lumps during the transition. I'm more interested in how they will do moving forward after maybe 3 years or so.

(01-05-2022 09:24 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 09:20 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 09:18 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 09:13 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 09:05 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  Without a schedule its hard to guess.

JMU with more SBC teams to play should be over 500. Potential Conference games against sub 500 ODU, USM, troy state, GaSo, TxSt, ULM, Ark St and South

Sam and JSU will have more OOC games and less sub 500 conference games. If today, FIU and LaTech with losing records. Plus one will win their game.

Sam and JSU are walking into a lot hard conference schedule with two games vs JMU has potentially eight games against sub 500 teams.

You think JMU is playing in SBC West? Haven’t heard about that.

No idea where or who they are playing. Just assume they will play other members of their conference, cant play them all but surly these will be potential options.

Really?

Normally how it works. If you know there schedule post it.
No way to hide the SBC will have several team which were under 500 this year.

No one in their right mind thinks that the new CUSA 4.0 will be a better football league than the Sun Belt, especially in the next 5 years. Beyond that there is no way to tell. I think the new look CUSA have a pretty good basketball profile though.

Look, you're talking to a person who defended CUSA for years, ultimately you have to tip your hat to the Sun Belt, because they've been the one who's consistently putting teams in the top 25, something that Conference USA has very rarely done.

(01-05-2022 09:37 AM)topper1296 Wrote:  I'd care less about the first year record of an FCS callup. I know WKU took their lumps during the transition. I'm more interested in how they will do moving forward after maybe 3 years or so.

Well, these FCS teams think they're going to come here in barnstorm your league and the FBS, so...

(01-05-2022 09:24 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 09:20 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 09:18 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 09:13 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 09:05 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  Without a schedule its hard to guess.

JMU with more SBC teams to play should be over 500. Potential Conference games against sub 500 ODU, USM, troy state, GaSo, TxSt, ULM, Ark St and South

Sam and JSU will have more OOC games and less sub 500 conference games. If today, FIU and LaTech with losing records. Plus one will win their game.

Sam and JSU are walking into a lot hard conference schedule with two games vs JMU has potentially eight games against sub 500 teams.

You think JMU is playing in SBC West? Haven’t heard about that.

No idea where or who they are playing. Just assume they will play other members of their conference, cant play them all but surly these will be potential options.

Really?

Normally how it works. If you know there schedule post it.
No way to hide the SBC will have several team which were under 500 this year.

JMU will for certain face

Marshall
ODU
Georgia Southern
Georgia State
Coastal Carolina
App State

The only team on that list to play below .500 in 2021 was Georgia Southern.

(01-05-2022 09:24 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 09:20 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 09:18 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 09:13 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 09:05 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  Without a schedule its hard to guess.

JMU with more SBC teams to play should be over 500. Potential Conference games against sub 500 ODU, USM, troy state, GaSo, TxSt, ULM, Ark St and South

Sam and JSU will have more OOC games and less sub 500 conference games. If today, FIU and LaTech with losing records. Plus one will win their game.

Sam and JSU are walking into a lot hard conference schedule with two games vs JMU has potentially eight games against sub 500 teams.

You think JMU is playing in SBC West? Haven’t heard about that.

No idea where or who they are playing. Just assume they will play other members of their conference, cant play them all but surly these will be potential options.

Really?

Normally how it works. If you know there schedule post it.
No way to hide the SBC will have several team which were under 500 this year.

They’ll clearly play 6 SB-E teams and 2 cross division. The first 6 are known, only the two western conference games are unknown.

As for CUSA with 9 members, all members will play each other in a perfect round robin.

Overall, using this most recent years overall standings as you seem to be doing. The new Sun Belt would have 6 of 14 that had winning records and the new CUSA would have 5 of 9.

Using that JMU will be guaranteed to face 4 teams with winning records, SHU will face 4 with winning records and JSU would face 5.