(12-31-2021 07:38 AM)fishingduke12 Wrote: Metchie is out for bama and Cinci has one of the best secondaries in the nation so it's going to be interesting to see if Bama can pass on them. I think Cinci keeps it close for a half and eventually wear down in the second half. Something like 31-17
Don’t need to be able to pass on them when you rush for 300+. Bama was playing neck roll football..
(12-31-2021 07:38 AM)fishingduke12 Wrote: Metchie is out for bama and Cinci has one of the best secondaries in the nation so it's going to be interesting to see if Bama can pass on them. I think Cinci keeps it close for a half and eventually wear down in the second half. Something like 31-17
Don’t need to be able to pass on them when you rush for 300+. Bama was playing neck roll football..
(12-31-2021 07:38 AM)fishingduke12 Wrote: Metchie is out for bama and Cinci has one of the best secondaries in the nation so it's going to be interesting to see if Bama can pass on them. I think Cinci keeps it close for a half and eventually wear down in the second half. Something like 31-17
Don’t need to be able to pass on them when you rush for 300+. Bama was playing neck roll football..
Yeah, Bryce Young may be the best hander-offer in college football.
Mike Leach on playoffs. It seems inevitable this expands after they sort out all the arm wrestling over how many slots go where. Out of current options, I like the 6-6 format Aresco is pushing with no guarantees for P5, just the "6 best" conference winners and 6 at large.
(01-02-2022 09:02 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote: I doubt we'll ever see a G5 have an anto berth. They don't want a chance of a 9 - 4 G5 team coming to the party.
There have been multiple proposals on the table that give the G5 at least one slot. I don't believe any current proposal shuts out the G5 entirely. What seems to be the point of contention now is whether or not all of the P5 conferences should be guaranteed an autobid each year, with only one G5 slot.
The proposal Aresco of AAC is pushing would give the 6 best/highest rated conference champs a slot, which is very different than guaranteed slots for for the P5. That would make it theoretically possible for say the MWC and AAC or SBC to get a slot while the PAC or Big 12 stays home.
(01-02-2022 09:02 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote: I doubt we'll ever see a G5 have an anto berth. They don't want a chance of a 9 - 4 G5 team coming to the party.
There have been multiple proposals on the table that give the G5 at least one slot. I don't believe any current proposal shuts out the G5 entirely. What seems to be the point of contention now is whether or not all of the P5 conferences should be guaranteed an autobid each year, with only one G5 slot.
The proposal Aresco of AAC is pushing would give the 6 best/highest rated conference champs a slot, which is very different than guaranteed slots for for the P5. That would make it theoretically possible for say the MWC and AAC or SBC to get a slot while the PAC or Big 12 stays home.
I can see all of this, what I'm saying is there will never be a guaranteed slot for a SB conference champion. I can't see ESPN or the P5 teams wanting to take a chance that G5 team that sneaks into the conference championship game, pulls off a miracle in that game and walks into the playoffs.
(01-02-2022 09:02 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote: I doubt we'll ever see a G5 have an anto berth. They don't want a chance of a 9 - 4 G5 team coming to the party.
There have been multiple proposals on the table that give the G5 at least one slot. I don't believe any current proposal shuts out the G5 entirely. What seems to be the point of contention now is whether or not all of the P5 conferences should be guaranteed an autobid each year, with only one G5 slot.
The proposal Aresco of AAC is pushing would give the 6 best/highest rated conference champs a slot, which is very different than guaranteed slots for for the P5. That would make it theoretically possible for say the MWC and AAC or SBC to get a slot while the PAC or Big 12 stays home.
I can see all of this, what I'm saying is there will never be a guaranteed slot for a SB conference champion. I can't see ESPN or the P5 teams wanting to take a chance that G5 team that sneaks into the conference championship game, pulls off a miracle in that game and walks into the playoffs.
In that sense, I agree with you. While there might be 1-2 slots reserved for the the top 2 G5 champs, there will never* be a spot specifically reserved for the Sun Belt Champ, another spot for CUSA, etc.
*The only way something like this would happen would be if either the playoffs expanded to 20 or more teams (not happening) or there becomes a G5 conference that becomes so strong over a long period of time (10-15 years) that they show that they deserve it.
(01-02-2022 09:02 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote: I doubt we'll ever see a G5 have an anto berth. They don't want a chance of a 9 - 4 G5 team coming to the party.
There have been multiple proposals on the table that give the G5 at least one slot. I don't believe any current proposal shuts out the G5 entirely. What seems to be the point of contention now is whether or not all of the P5 conferences should be guaranteed an autobid each year, with only one G5 slot.
The proposal Aresco of AAC is pushing would give the 6 best/highest rated conference champs a slot, which is very different than guaranteed slots for for the P5. That would make it theoretically possible for say the MWC and AAC or SBC to get a slot while the PAC or Big 12 stays home.
I can see all of this, what I'm saying is there will never be a guaranteed slot for a SB conference champion. I can't see ESPN or the P5 teams wanting to take a chance that G5 team that sneaks into the conference championship game, pulls off a miracle in that game and walks into the playoffs.
In that sense, I agree with you. While there might be 1-2 slots reserved for the the top 2 G5 champs, there will never* be a spot specifically reserved for the Sun Belt Champ, another spot for CUSA, etc.
*The only way something like this would happen would be if either the playoffs expanded to 20 or more teams (not happening) or there becomes a G5 conference that becomes so strong over a long period of time (10-15 years) that they show that they deserve it.
In the near-term it seems there is great hesitation to expand beyond 12 teams, though initially they were talking about 8, and could not get agreement with only 8 slots.
If there are 12 slots, I agree it is very unlikely any G5 gets a permanent slot, but it is also possible no P5 gets a guaranteed slot, even if effectively it is for them most years due to SOS/rankings.
Where things could get interesting with a 6-6 Aresco format, is if a few of the P5's miss out some years, that could create additional pressure to expand again to 16 or 24, and that would allow a more FCS like format in say 10 years from now.
If they reach total deadlock on 6-6 format (they did on 8) there is a small/remote chance it could go to 16 instead when the CFP expires, and that could open the door a crack for all conferences to get an autobid. Would agree its very unlikely in the near term, as most seem to not want to expand the field that large, and Cincy losing didn't help the argument.
I believe 16 is the way to go. 12 gives the top teams a bye week, which gives them an advantage (even more so than they already have since they are the top teams). Everyone should have to at least play the same amount of games (in the playoffs) to win a championship.
(01-11-2022 12:27 AM)hburg Wrote: Good game tonight. Shows they really need to expand the playoffs.
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I agree they need to expand it but not sure this game proved that especially after both semifinal games were not close
It proved the SEC is the beast conference in FBS.
This is the reason to expand the playoffs. As it it sits today all of the top talent goes to about 4-5 schools because they know they have very little shot to win a title right now unless they got to one of those schools. If they open it up to 12 or 16 the recruiting will start being spread out a little bit more and you will see the most dominant teams become just a little less dominant and some other teams become a little more competitive.
Now some of this is location and the deep south has a ton of talent, particularly on the lines, but as of now some of the best talent is going from California and other areas to these schools and that needs to change going forward. Opening access to the playoffs doesn't solve all of these problems, but it will help.
Oh and last night between them Alabama and UGA had roughly 40 5 star recruits which is about 35% of all 5 stars. Until this spreads out nothing will change.
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(01-11-2022 12:27 AM)hburg Wrote: Good game tonight. Shows they really need to expand the playoffs.
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Or just as big an arguememt for 2 again, as Bama and Jawjah were head and shoulders above everyone else, playing neck roll football with ALOT of speed.
Edit: And I’m for expansion to 8 or 12..
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The problem is the P5 has too much power in football.
If it were up to them, they would just let their peers be eligible for the playoffs. Allowing the G5 a seat at the table is insulting to them as they don't see those outside the P5 as peers. And to be fair, most of the G5 isn't up to the challenge.
Money is the only thing that talks to them and if expanding means more money, then they'll make it happen.
