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(05-30-2022 01:32 PM)bearcat29 Wrote:  

(05-29-2022 05:51 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(05-29-2022 08:53 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(05-29-2022 07:35 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(05-29-2022 05:51 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  I suppose much of this is about expectations. The 2019 Bearcats' postseason performance was a joy and a surprise after 45 years of wandering in the wilderness and missing the NCAA.

While I don't hold Bearcat baseball to the same level of postseason expectation as UC football and basketball, I did believe we'd see more forward progress given Googins' postseason record at X, UC's excellent facilities, and a pretty high profile baseball conference in the American. Not a conference dominating performance each year like ECU, but at least being in the hunt a little more.

I dont know where this myth of UC's excellent facilities comes from. You do realize they have no practice facilities or even dedicated cage rooms, right? Outside of the stadium, they have next to no training facilities whatsoever. X won because they were in a horrible baseball conference (and realistically still are), not because of anything crazy they did radically different. Hell, look at Wright State, an average baseball team in every way, is getting chances because they play in a conference in which they can win the CCG by 20 runs

Correct. Louisville, thanks to the generosity of Kroger, is building a 35,000 sq. feet indoor baseball practice facility and pitching lab. Their baseball facilities were already much nicer than what we had.

https://www.cardchronicle.com/platform/a...r-facility

Which brings us back to the question of why these "hometown" corporations have so little charity for the "hometown" school. I get that the Kroger CEO is a Kentucky alum, but what has that to do with Louisville?

I always thought that was crap. Kroger, born here and the cooperate headquarters are here. UK has their football stadium Kroger Field and dumping money into UofL.

Seems pretty crappy to me to ignore the hometown university.

It’s my understanding the money UofL is getting is from the particular regional office of Kroger that is HQ in Louisville, not from the home office here in Cincinnati. The main office located in Cincinnati has a long standing relationship donating big bucks to both Ohio State and UK. For many years I remember watching Archie Griffin in Kroger commercials. Last year I noticed Kroger sponsored Fick’s headset. I guess that is progress. :)

(05-30-2022 12:54 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 12:11 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  I know that when WVU joined the B12, Monogalia County built WVU a minor-league quality stadium and associated facilities under the guise of using the stadium for (at that time) a "low-A," short-season minor league team. But the stadium was always emblazoned with WVU logos, etc...and now I believe the minor-league team was killed with the whole MLB-Minor League reorganization. The County also partnered with WVU on a whole new "Aquatics Center"/natatorium for the WVU swimming and diving teams. Both facilities are well OFF CAMPUS and are top-notch and the University gets primary usage (think the "Yum! Center" in Louisville as another example)...

The Big XII will bring with it a whole new level of Athletic funding but UC will continue to be seriously hamstrung by the lack of wider City and County support, not to mention the benign neglect on the State level.

TBF, West Virginia can afford to do that because they don't have professional teams that have been bending over the taxpayers with a Pringles can foe the past two deacdes.

I don't disagree. I also recognize the reality that, without WVU, Morgantown is a tiny, little town, whereas Cincinnati without UC is still a major city. C'est la vie.

I guess where I would push things with the City and Hamilton County is how other "Collegiate" communities find ways to work WITH each other to fund and build great facilities for both the City and the University. Ironically, WVU is eating the City of Morgantown like a cancer from within; every property the University buys goes off the tax rolls and the University, while land-locked, continues to grow. But Morgantown will do whatever the University wants. On the other hand, UC's excellence...both academic and athletic...only ENHANCES the City and the County; potentially bringing in tourist dollars, top-notch science and cultural assets, and publicity. And yet neither the City or the County will work with UC though they will bend over backwards to make the Brown family and the Reds' ownership group happy. It'd be nice to see the City and the County work with UC for mutual benefit...

Oh well.

(05-31-2022 07:10 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 12:54 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 12:11 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  I know that when WVU joined the B12, Monogalia County built WVU a minor-league quality stadium and associated facilities under the guise of using the stadium for (at that time) a "low-A," short-season minor league team. But the stadium was always emblazoned with WVU logos, etc...and now I believe the minor-league team was killed with the whole MLB-Minor League reorganization. The County also partnered with WVU on a whole new "Aquatics Center"/natatorium for the WVU swimming and diving teams. Both facilities are well OFF CAMPUS and are top-notch and the University gets primary usage (think the "Yum! Center" in Louisville as another example)...

The Big XII will bring with it a whole new level of Athletic funding but UC will continue to be seriously hamstrung by the lack of wider City and County support, not to mention the benign neglect on the State level.

TBF, West Virginia can afford to do that because they don't have professional teams that have been bending over the taxpayers with a Pringles can foe the past two deacdes.

I don't disagree. I also recognize the reality that, without WVU, Morgantown is a tiny, little town, whereas Cincinnati without UC is still a major city. C'est la vie.

I guess where I would push things with the City and Hamilton County is how other "Collegiate" communities find ways to work WITH each other to fund and build great facilities for both the City and the University. Ironically, WVU is eating the City of Morgantown like a cancer from within; every property the University buys goes off the tax rolls and the University, while land-locked, continues to grow. But Morgantown will do whatever the University wants. On the other hand, UC's excellence...both academic and athletic...only ENHANCES the City and the County; potentially bringing in tourist dollars, top-notch science and cultural assets, and publicity. And yet neither the City or the County will work with UC though they will bend over backwards to make the Brown family and the Reds' ownership group happy. It'd be nice to see the City and the County work with UC for mutual benefit...

Oh well.

Excellent observations. The park board needs to sell UC Burnet Woods, but it will never happen.

(05-31-2022 07:10 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 12:54 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 12:11 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  I know that when WVU joined the B12, Monogalia County built WVU a minor-league quality stadium and associated facilities under the guise of using the stadium for (at that time) a "low-A," short-season minor league team. But the stadium was always emblazoned with WVU logos, etc...and now I believe the minor-league team was killed with the whole MLB-Minor League reorganization. The County also partnered with WVU on a whole new "Aquatics Center"/natatorium for the WVU swimming and diving teams. Both facilities are well OFF CAMPUS and are top-notch and the University gets primary usage (think the "Yum! Center" in Louisville as another example)...

The Big XII will bring with it a whole new level of Athletic funding but UC will continue to be seriously hamstrung by the lack of wider City and County support, not to mention the benign neglect on the State level.

TBF, West Virginia can afford to do that because they don't have professional teams that have been bending over the taxpayers with a Pringles can foe the past two deacdes.

I don't disagree. I also recognize the reality that, without WVU, Morgantown is a tiny, little town, whereas Cincinnati without UC is still a major city. C'est la vie.

I guess where I would push things with the City and Hamilton County is how other "Collegiate" communities find ways to work WITH each other to fund and build great facilities for both the City and the University. Ironically, WVU is eating the City of Morgantown like a cancer from within; every property the University buys goes off the tax rolls and the University, while land-locked, continues to grow. But Morgantown will do whatever the University wants. On the other hand, UC's excellence...both academic and athletic...only ENHANCES the City and the County; potentially bringing in tourist dollars, top-notch science and cultural assets, and publicity. And yet neither the City or the County will work with UC though they will bend over backwards to make the Brown family and the Reds' ownership group happy. It'd be nice to see the City and the County work with UC for mutual benefit...

Oh well.

Alternately, the Innovation Corridor has received excellent support, maybe more from the Ohio Statehouse though than Cincinnati City Hall. The MLK interchange off I-71 was needed decades ago. Now completed, it's opened a new gateway to UC and Children's Hospital for a research corridor (and building boom) that may someday help UC rival the country's most noteworthy research corridors.

(06-01-2022 07:27 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(05-31-2022 07:10 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 12:54 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 12:11 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  I know that when WVU joined the B12, Monogalia County built WVU a minor-league quality stadium and associated facilities under the guise of using the stadium for (at that time) a "low-A," short-season minor league team. But the stadium was always emblazoned with WVU logos, etc...and now I believe the minor-league team was killed with the whole MLB-Minor League reorganization. The County also partnered with WVU on a whole new "Aquatics Center"/natatorium for the WVU swimming and diving teams. Both facilities are well OFF CAMPUS and are top-notch and the University gets primary usage (think the "Yum! Center" in Louisville as another example)...

The Big XII will bring with it a whole new level of Athletic funding but UC will continue to be seriously hamstrung by the lack of wider City and County support, not to mention the benign neglect on the State level.

TBF, West Virginia can afford to do that because they don't have professional teams that have been bending over the taxpayers with a Pringles can foe the past two deacdes.

I don't disagree. I also recognize the reality that, without WVU, Morgantown is a tiny, little town, whereas Cincinnati without UC is still a major city. C'est la vie.

I guess where I would push things with the City and Hamilton County is how other "Collegiate" communities find ways to work WITH each other to fund and build great facilities for both the City and the University. Ironically, WVU is eating the City of Morgantown like a cancer from within; every property the University buys goes off the tax rolls and the University, while land-locked, continues to grow. But Morgantown will do whatever the University wants. On the other hand, UC's excellence...both academic and athletic...only ENHANCES the City and the County; potentially bringing in tourist dollars, top-notch science and cultural assets, and publicity. And yet neither the City or the County will work with UC though they will bend over backwards to make the Brown family and the Reds' ownership group happy. It'd be nice to see the City and the County work with UC for mutual benefit...

Oh well.

Alternately, the Innovation Corridor has received excellent support, maybe more from the Ohio Statehouse though than Cincinnati City Hall. The MLK interchange off I-71 was needed decades ago. Now completed, it's opened a new gateway to UC and Children's Hospital for a research corridor (and building boom) that may someday help UC rival the country's most noteworthy research corridors.

These are noteworthy and good examples. Thank you!

(06-01-2022 07:27 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(05-31-2022 07:10 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 12:54 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 12:11 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  I know that when WVU joined the B12, Monogalia County built WVU a minor-league quality stadium and associated facilities under the guise of using the stadium for (at that time) a "low-A," short-season minor league team. But the stadium was always emblazoned with WVU logos, etc...and now I believe the minor-league team was killed with the whole MLB-Minor League reorganization. The County also partnered with WVU on a whole new "Aquatics Center"/natatorium for the WVU swimming and diving teams. Both facilities are well OFF CAMPUS and are top-notch and the University gets primary usage (think the "Yum! Center" in Louisville as another example)...

The Big XII will bring with it a whole new level of Athletic funding but UC will continue to be seriously hamstrung by the lack of wider City and County support, not to mention the benign neglect on the State level.

TBF, West Virginia can afford to do that because they don't have professional teams that have been bending over the taxpayers with a Pringles can foe the past two deacdes.

I don't disagree. I also recognize the reality that, without WVU, Morgantown is a tiny, little town, whereas Cincinnati without UC is still a major city. C'est la vie.

I guess where I would push things with the City and Hamilton County is how other "Collegiate" communities find ways to work WITH each other to fund and build great facilities for both the City and the University. Ironically, WVU is eating the City of Morgantown like a cancer from within; every property the University buys goes off the tax rolls and the University, while land-locked, continues to grow. But Morgantown will do whatever the University wants. On the other hand, UC's excellence...both academic and athletic...only ENHANCES the City and the County; potentially bringing in tourist dollars, top-notch science and cultural assets, and publicity. And yet neither the City or the County will work with UC though they will bend over backwards to make the Brown family and the Reds' ownership group happy. It'd be nice to see the City and the County work with UC for mutual benefit...

Oh well.

Alternately, the Innovation Corridor has received excellent support, maybe more from the Ohio Statehouse though than Cincinnati City Hall. The MLK interchange off I-71 was needed decades ago. Now completed, it's opened a new gateway to UC and Children's Hospital for a research corridor (and building boom) that may someday help UC rival the country's most noteworthy research corridors.

I believe that is all State and Private Enterprise, not Cincinnati or Hamilton Cty. money.