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RE: Delaware - GAME 10 - CAA GAME 1
(12-30-2021 01:55 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(12-30-2021 09:14 AM)GrayHawk Wrote:  
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(12-30-2021 08:20 AM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  It's all about bringing 10 new faces in and getting them to gell as a team. There's been very little difference in Siddle's system since the season began. Siddle has played with lineups, trying to see who can play this system the best. The biggest difference last night and this 4 game win streak they are buying into the system and finally executing to make it work. They still set the offense up the same way. Players have had to accept different role positions and it's paying off. Same coach, same system. But much better execution.

Sorry, that just isn't the case. I've been to two games and watched every other game available on TV. You can go rewatch the games on FLO and compare the offensive movement, passing and the amount we drive to the basket vs. shoot the three from the beginning to the High Point game. We have a completely different offensive strategy. We literally had four guys standing around the perimeter at the three point line and passed around the perimeter then took a three or somebody went one on one. That was our offense. Nothing close to what we are doing now. There is no way the same system produced twice as many three point attempts on average the first seven games as it has in the past three games. That's not just who is executing the system correctly, that's a strategic change. Siddle has said there was a change himself. He now refers to us as an "inside out" offense. He never said that until recently and the proof is in the three point attempts. It's a complete 180 on strategy. We started as a three point shooting team first and changed to an inside out offense.

I'm really not sure why this is a debate. It's a good move for the team, a credit to Siddle and the staff for making the change and a credit to the players for executing the change.

To think a coach would simply "change systems" after a few games is absolutely ludicrous. that did NOT happen. Some things changed yes , but our entire offensive system did not. Its not how D1 basketball works friend.

Ok. So the fact we are shooting HALF as many three pointers now isn't a change in strategy? Got it. That means when our players were shooting TWICE as many three pointers Siddle didn't want that, but the players just did what they wanted anyhow? Don't think so. And no, it isn't ludicrous to think a coach would change his offensive strategy when we were one of the worst offensive teams in the nation. As a coach, you may think you have the players to run the strategy you want, but reality always kicks in and a good coach will change if needed. And FWIW, changing "strategy" and changing "systems" are not the same. We didn't all of the sudden implement a Princeton style system, we just changed our strategy to drive far more and shoot three pointers far less. Are you denying that has changed? I guess I should listen to you and deny the stats and my lying eyes.

You also need to read my entire post, not simply the parts that makes you mad. I am not the one who used the term "SYSTEM" first... YOU are. As stated in the above post I hope we all know the difference between a system and a strategy.. I also said in a post yes, some things have changed, but the system has NOT. Going forward please refrain from coming on here chastising me about using a term system when YOU were the first to bring it up.
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RE: Delaware - GAME 10 - CAA GAME 1
(12-31-2021 09:31 AM)GrayHawk Wrote:  
(12-30-2021 11:57 AM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(12-30-2021 09:14 AM)GrayHawk Wrote:  
(12-30-2021 09:00 AM)82hawk Wrote:  
(12-30-2021 08:20 AM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  It's all about bringing 10 new faces in and getting them to gell as a team. There's been very little difference in Siddle's system since the season began. Siddle has played with lineups, trying to see who can play this system the best. The biggest difference last night and this 4 game win streak they are buying into the system and finally executing to make it work. They still set the offense up the same way. Players have had to accept different role positions and it's paying off. Same coach, same system. But much better execution.

Sorry, that just isn't the case. I've been to two games and watched every other game available on TV. You can go rewatch the games on FLO and compare the offensive movement, passing and the amount we drive to the basket vs. shoot the three from the beginning to the High Point game. We have a completely different offensive strategy. We literally had four guys standing around the perimeter at the three point line and passed around the perimeter then took a three or somebody went one on one. That was our offense. Nothing close to what we are doing now. There is no way the same system produced twice as many three point attempts on average the first seven games as it has in the past three games. That's not just who is executing the system correctly, that's a strategic change. Siddle has said there was a change himself. He now refers to us as an "inside out" offense. He never said that until recently and the proof is in the three point attempts. It's a complete 180 on strategy. We started as a three point shooting team first and changed to an inside out offense.

I'm really not sure why this is a debate. It's a good move for the team, a credit to Siddle and the staff for making the change and a credit to the players for executing the change.

To think a coach would simply "change systems" after a few games is absolutely ludicrous. that did NOT happen. Some things changed yes , but our entire offensive system did not. Its not how D1 basketball works friend.

That's "absolutely ludicrous", but moving a guy from into a position he's never played is amazing, out of the box thinking? Look, moving Sims to the PG position may be exactly what we needed, and if we keep winning with that move I'm all for it and okay with being wrong (something which it seems I'm the only one around here willing to admit). You said yourself how rare that is. However, you can't exalt the coach for doing something so rare, and out out of the norm but tell people it's absolutely ludicrous that Siddle may make changes to his offensive strategy. Nobody is saying we completely "changed systems", instead it's argued that tweaks to that system in the form of better movement with and without the ball have led to a more effecient version of this offense.

But hey, you do you buddy.

I wish you would read my entire post, and perhaps also the post I quote to get full context. Seahawk33 said and I quote "There is no way the same SYSTEM produced twice as many three point attempts on average the first seven games as it has the past three games" I'm not sure if you even read that part, but to me, that sounds a LOT like he is saying we changed systems. If you will also note in MY response the 33, I said and I quote again...."Some things have changed yes, but our entire offensive system did not" In other words I didn't as you stated tell someone that is was "absolutely ludicrous" that Siddle had made changes to his offensive strategy... Ray Charles, Ronnie Milsap and Stevie Wonder can all see as I've acknowledged that he indeed has. To surmise, another poster used the term "system" first, not me. Obviously we all I hope know the difference between offensive strategy ( which has been changed/tweaked) or whatever other word you'd like to use...BUT our offensive SYSTEM has not, will not, nor should it.

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RE: Delaware - GAME 10 - CAA GAME 1
(12-31-2021 09:56 AM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  
(12-31-2021 09:31 AM)GrayHawk Wrote:  
(12-30-2021 11:57 AM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(12-30-2021 09:14 AM)GrayHawk Wrote:  
(12-30-2021 09:00 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Sorry, that just isn't the case. I've been to two games and watched every other game available on TV. You can go rewatch the games on FLO and compare the offensive movement, passing and the amount we drive to the basket vs. shoot the three from the beginning to the High Point game. We have a completely different offensive strategy. We literally had four guys standing around the perimeter at the three point line and passed around the perimeter then took a three or somebody went one on one. That was our offense. Nothing close to what we are doing now. There is no way the same system produced twice as many three point attempts on average the first seven games as it has in the past three games. That's not just who is executing the system correctly, that's a strategic change. Siddle has said there was a change himself. He now refers to us as an "inside out" offense. He never said that until recently and the proof is in the three point attempts. It's a complete 180 on strategy. We started as a three point shooting team first and changed to an inside out offense.

I'm really not sure why this is a debate. It's a good move for the team, a credit to Siddle and the staff for making the change and a credit to the players for executing the change.

To think a coach would simply "change systems" after a few games is absolutely ludicrous. that did NOT happen. Some things changed yes , but our entire offensive system did not. Its not how D1 basketball works friend.

That's "absolutely ludicrous", but moving a guy from into a position he's never played is amazing, out of the box thinking? Look, moving Sims to the PG position may be exactly what we needed, and if we keep winning with that move I'm all for it and okay with being wrong (something which it seems I'm the only one around here willing to admit). You said yourself how rare that is. However, you can't exalt the coach for doing something so rare, and out out of the norm but tell people it's absolutely ludicrous that Siddle may make changes to his offensive strategy. Nobody is saying we completely "changed systems", instead it's argued that tweaks to that system in the form of better movement with and without the ball have led to a more effecient version of this offense.

But hey, you do you buddy.

I wish you would read my entire post, and perhaps also the post I quote to get full context. 82Hawk said and I quote "There is no way the same SYSTEM produced twice as many three point attempts on average the first seven games as it has the past three games" I'm not sure if you even read that part, but to me, that sounds a LOT like he is saying we changed systems. If you will also note in MY response to 82, I said and I quote again...."Some things have changed yes, but our entire offensive system did not" In other words I didn't as you stated tell someone that is was "absolutely ludicrous" that Siddle had made changes to his offensive strategy... Ray Charles, Ronnie Milsap and Stevie Wonder can all see as I've acknowledged that he indeed has. To surmise, another poster used the term "system" first, not me. Obviously we all I hope know the difference between offensive strategy ( which has been changed/tweaked) or whatever other word you'd like to use...BUT our offensive SYSTEM has not, will not, nor should it.

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I did not say that.

NO...you did not. My mistake and I apologize. 82 is the one that said that. All the quote nesting had me confused and I should have known it wasn't you. Again, my apologies.
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RE: Delaware - GAME 10 - CAA GAME 1
(12-31-2021 09:43 AM)GrayHawk Wrote:  
(12-30-2021 01:55 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(12-30-2021 09:14 AM)GrayHawk Wrote:  
(12-30-2021 09:00 AM)82hawk Wrote:  
(12-30-2021 08:20 AM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  It's all about bringing 10 new faces in and getting them to gell as a team. There's been very little difference in Siddle's system since the season began. Siddle has played with lineups, trying to see who can play this system the best. The biggest difference last night and this 4 game win streak they are buying into the system and finally executing to make it work. They still set the offense up the same way. Players have had to accept different role positions and it's paying off. Same coach, same system. But much better execution.

Sorry, that just isn't the case. I've been to two games and watched every other game available on TV. You can go rewatch the games on FLO and compare the offensive movement, passing and the amount we drive to the basket vs. shoot the three from the beginning to the High Point game. We have a completely different offensive strategy. We literally had four guys standing around the perimeter at the three point line and passed around the perimeter then took a three or somebody went one on one. That was our offense. Nothing close to what we are doing now. There is no way the same system produced twice as many three point attempts on average the first seven games as it has in the past three games. That's not just who is executing the system correctly, that's a strategic change. Siddle has said there was a change himself. He now refers to us as an "inside out" offense. He never said that until recently and the proof is in the three point attempts. It's a complete 180 on strategy. We started as a three point shooting team first and changed to an inside out offense.

I'm really not sure why this is a debate. It's a good move for the team, a credit to Siddle and the staff for making the change and a credit to the players for executing the change.

To think a coach would simply "change systems" after a few games is absolutely ludicrous. that did NOT happen. Some things changed yes , but our entire offensive system did not. Its not how D1 basketball works friend.

Ok. So the fact we are shooting HALF as many three pointers now isn't a change in strategy? Got it. That means when our players were shooting TWICE as many three pointers Siddle didn't want that, but the players just did what they wanted anyhow? Don't think so. And no, it isn't ludicrous to think a coach would change his offensive strategy when we were one of the worst offensive teams in the nation. As a coach, you may think you have the players to run the strategy you want, but reality always kicks in and a good coach will change if needed. And FWIW, changing "strategy" and changing "systems" are not the same. We didn't all of the sudden implement a Princeton style system, we just changed our strategy to drive far more and shoot three pointers far less. Are you denying that has changed? I guess I should listen to you and deny the stats and my lying eyes.

You also need to read my entire post, not simply the parts that makes you mad. I am not the one who used the term "SYSTEM" first... YOU are. As stated in the above post I hope we all know the difference between a system and a strategy.. I also said in a post yes, some things have changed, but the system has NOT. Going forward please refrain from coming on here chastising me about using a term system when YOU were the first to bring it up.

You are really reaching here. I use the word strategy every single time except once. And that's what you focused on? I even made it clear what I meant when I discussed switching to a Princeton style system to clarify the difference. Not to mention multiple, multiple posts over weeks specifically addressing the fact we weren't driving and kicking the ball out and instead we shot three pointers first.

So now that we're clear on the difference between a system and a strategy, can we agree that a definite strategic change has been made where we are moving, passing, setting picks and driving more and taking less three-pointers?
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RE: Delaware - GAME 10 - CAA GAME 1
(12-31-2021 10:32 AM)82hawk Wrote:  
(12-31-2021 09:43 AM)GrayHawk Wrote:  
(12-30-2021 01:55 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(12-30-2021 09:14 AM)GrayHawk Wrote:  
(12-30-2021 09:00 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Sorry, that just isn't the case. I've been to two games and watched every other game available on TV. You can go rewatch the games on FLO and compare the offensive movement, passing and the amount we drive to the basket vs. shoot the three from the beginning to the High Point game. We have a completely different offensive strategy. We literally had four guys standing around the perimeter at the three point line and passed around the perimeter then took a three or somebody went one on one. That was our offense. Nothing close to what we are doing now. There is no way the same system produced twice as many three point attempts on average the first seven games as it has in the past three games. That's not just who is executing the system correctly, that's a strategic change. Siddle has said there was a change himself. He now refers to us as an "inside out" offense. He never said that until recently and the proof is in the three point attempts. It's a complete 180 on strategy. We started as a three point shooting team first and changed to an inside out offense.

I'm really not sure why this is a debate. It's a good move for the team, a credit to Siddle and the staff for making the change and a credit to the players for executing the change.

To think a coach would simply "change systems" after a few games is absolutely ludicrous. that did NOT happen. Some things changed yes , but our entire offensive system did not. Its not how D1 basketball works friend.

Ok. So the fact we are shooting HALF as many three pointers now isn't a change in strategy? Got it. That means when our players were shooting TWICE as many three pointers Siddle didn't want that, but the players just did what they wanted anyhow? Don't think so. And no, it isn't ludicrous to think a coach would change his offensive strategy when we were one of the worst offensive teams in the nation. As a coach, you may think you have the players to run the strategy you want, but reality always kicks in and a good coach will change if needed. And FWIW, changing "strategy" and changing "systems" are not the same. We didn't all of the sudden implement a Princeton style system, we just changed our strategy to drive far more and shoot three pointers far less. Are you denying that has changed? I guess I should listen to you and deny the stats and my lying eyes.

You also need to read my entire post, not simply the parts that makes you mad. I am not the one who used the term "SYSTEM" first... YOU are. As stated in the above post I hope we all know the difference between a system and a strategy.. I also said in a post yes, some things have changed, but the system has NOT. Going forward please refrain from coming on here chastising me about using a term system when YOU were the first to bring it up.

You are really reaching here. I use the word strategy every single time except once. And that's what you focused on? I even made it clear what I meant when I discussed switching to a Princeton style system to clarify the difference. Not to mention multiple, multiple posts over weeks specifically addressing the fact we weren't driving and kicking the ball out and instead we shot three pointers first.

So now that we're clear on the difference between a system and a strategy, can we agree that a definite strategic change has been made where we are moving, passing, setting picks and driving more and taking less three-pointers?

It seems you want to blame me for reading your entire post man...What word did you use the other time? I've also acknowledged on multiple posts that some things had changed. Mainly the "ISO" as some here labeled it, in search of a mismatch where any one of a number of guards (Sims, Phillips and Okaru) mainly can take their man off the dribble to the hole creating a need for the opposition to make a decision on whether to help or not. They help, we dish to the open guy. They don't help, we take it to the rack or a pull up for a short mid range jumper. Since we are now clear on that can we also agree that we do not need someone on staff to look at Bellarmine Universitys "system" and try and emulate it as the thread you started several weeks ago implied?
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(12-31-2021 09:43 AM)GrayHawk Wrote:  
(12-30-2021 01:55 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(12-30-2021 09:14 AM)GrayHawk Wrote:  
(12-30-2021 09:00 AM)82hawk Wrote:  
(12-30-2021 08:20 AM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  It's all about bringing 10 new faces in and getting them to gell as a team. There's been very little difference in Siddle's system since the season began. Siddle has played with lineups, trying to see who can play this system the best. The biggest difference last night and this 4 game win streak they are buying into the system and finally executing to make it work. They still set the offense up the same way. Players have had to accept different role positions and it's paying off. Same coach, same system. But much better execution.

Sorry, that just isn't the case. I've been to two games and watched every other game available on TV. You can go rewatch the games on FLO and compare the offensive movement, passing and the amount we drive to the basket vs. shoot the three from the beginning to the High Point game. We have a completely different offensive strategy. We literally had four guys standing around the perimeter at the three point line and passed around the perimeter then took a three or somebody went one on one. That was our offense. Nothing close to what we are doing now. There is no way the same system produced twice as many three point attempts on average the first seven games as it has in the past three games. That's not just who is executing the system correctly, that's a strategic change. Siddle has said there was a change himself. He now refers to us as an "inside out" offense. He never said that until recently and the proof is in the three point attempts. It's a complete 180 on strategy. We started as a three point shooting team first and changed to an inside out offense.

I'm really not sure why this is a debate. It's a good move for the team, a credit to Siddle and the staff for making the change and a credit to the players for executing the change.

To think a coach would simply "change systems" after a few games is absolutely ludicrous. that did NOT happen. Some things changed yes , but our entire offensive system did not. Its not how D1 basketball works friend.

Ok. So the fact we are shooting HALF as many three pointers now isn't a change in strategy? Got it. That means when our players were shooting TWICE as many three pointers Siddle didn't want that, but the players just did what they wanted anyhow? Don't think so. And no, it isn't ludicrous to think a coach would change his offensive strategy when we were one of the worst offensive teams in the nation. As a coach, you may think you have the players to run the strategy you want, but reality always kicks in and a good coach will change if needed. And FWIW, changing "strategy" and changing "systems" are not the same. We didn't all of the sudden implement a Princeton style system, we just changed our strategy to drive far more and shoot three pointers far less. Are you denying that has changed? I guess I should listen to you and deny the stats and my lying eyes.

You also need to read my entire post, not simply the parts that makes you mad. I am not the one who used the term "SYSTEM" first... YOU are. As stated in the above post I hope we all know the difference between a system and a strategy.. I also said in a post yes, some things have changed, but the system has NOT. Going forward please refrain from coming on here chastising me about using a term system when YOU were the first to bring it up.


Who said anyone was mad? I haven’t been mad about anything. Furthermore, nobody is chastising you.

You really have some thin skin if you think basketball disagreements as fans of the same team makes anyone mad, or that anyone is chastising you for your opinion. Relax fella.

You can ask anyone else on here that is here regularly and they’ll tell you I’m all for everyone’s differing opinions being said around here whether I agree with them or not. I think at some point I’ve disagreed and agreed on various topics with everyone here.

I’m sure, if you’re around more I’ll agree with you on things too.

I can assure you though, that none of your posts have made me mad and I haven’t chastised you. Lol


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(12-31-2021 02:12 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(12-31-2021 09:43 AM)GrayHawk Wrote:  
(12-30-2021 01:55 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(12-30-2021 09:14 AM)GrayHawk Wrote:  
(12-30-2021 09:00 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Sorry, that just isn't the case. I've been to two games and watched every other game available on TV. You can go rewatch the games on FLO and compare the offensive movement, passing and the amount we drive to the basket vs. shoot the three from the beginning to the High Point game. We have a completely different offensive strategy. We literally had four guys standing around the perimeter at the three point line and passed around the perimeter then took a three or somebody went one on one. That was our offense. Nothing close to what we are doing now. There is no way the same system produced twice as many three point attempts on average the first seven games as it has in the past three games. That's not just who is executing the system correctly, that's a strategic change. Siddle has said there was a change himself. He now refers to us as an "inside out" offense. He never said that until recently and the proof is in the three point attempts. It's a complete 180 on strategy. We started as a three point shooting team first and changed to an inside out offense.

I'm really not sure why this is a debate. It's a good move for the team, a credit to Siddle and the staff for making the change and a credit to the players for executing the change.

To think a coach would simply "change systems" after a few games is absolutely ludicrous. that did NOT happen. Some things changed yes , but our entire offensive system did not. Its not how D1 basketball works friend.

Ok. So the fact we are shooting HALF as many three pointers now isn't a change in strategy? Got it. That means when our players were shooting TWICE as many three pointers Siddle didn't want that, but the players just did what they wanted anyhow? Don't think so. And no, it isn't ludicrous to think a coach would change his offensive strategy when we were one of the worst offensive teams in the nation. As a coach, you may think you have the players to run the strategy you want, but reality always kicks in and a good coach will change if needed. And FWIW, changing "strategy" and changing "systems" are not the same. We didn't all of the sudden implement a Princeton style system, we just changed our strategy to drive far more and shoot three pointers far less. Are you denying that has changed? I guess I should listen to you and deny the stats and my lying eyes.

You also need to read my entire post, not simply the parts that makes you mad. I am not the one who used the term "SYSTEM" first... YOU are. As stated in the above post I hope we all know the difference between a system and a strategy.. I also said in a post yes, some things have changed, but the system has NOT. Going forward please refrain from coming on here chastising me about using a term system when YOU were the first to bring it up.


Who said anyone was mad? I haven’t been mad about anything. Furthermore, nobody is chastising you.

You really have some thin skin if you think basketball disagreements as fans of the same team makes anyone mad, or that anyone is chastising you for your opinion. Relax fella.

You can ask anyone else on here that is here regularly and they’ll tell you I’m all for everyone’s differing opinions being said around here whether I agree with them or not. I think at some point I’ve disagreed and agreed on various topics with everyone here.

I’m sure, if you’re around more I’ll agree with you on things too.

I can assure you though, that none of your posts have made me mad and I haven’t chastised you. Lol


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They have made me mad, really really mad


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(12-31-2021 02:23 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(12-31-2021 02:12 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(12-31-2021 09:43 AM)GrayHawk Wrote:  
(12-30-2021 01:55 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(12-30-2021 09:14 AM)GrayHawk Wrote:  To think a coach would simply "change systems" after a few games is absolutely ludicrous. that did NOT happen. Some things changed yes , but our entire offensive system did not. Its not how D1 basketball works friend.

Ok. So the fact we are shooting HALF as many three pointers now isn't a change in strategy? Got it. That means when our players were shooting TWICE as many three pointers Siddle didn't want that, but the players just did what they wanted anyhow? Don't think so. And no, it isn't ludicrous to think a coach would change his offensive strategy when we were one of the worst offensive teams in the nation. As a coach, you may think you have the players to run the strategy you want, but reality always kicks in and a good coach will change if needed. And FWIW, changing "strategy" and changing "systems" are not the same. We didn't all of the sudden implement a Princeton style system, we just changed our strategy to drive far more and shoot three pointers far less. Are you denying that has changed? I guess I should listen to you and deny the stats and my lying eyes.

You also need to read my entire post, not simply the parts that makes you mad. I am not the one who used the term "SYSTEM" first... YOU are. As stated in the above post I hope we all know the difference between a system and a strategy.. I also said in a post yes, some things have changed, but the system has NOT. Going forward please refrain from coming on here chastising me about using a term system when YOU were the first to bring it up.


Who said anyone was mad? I haven’t been mad about anything. Furthermore, nobody is chastising you.

You really have some thin skin if you think basketball disagreements as fans of the same team makes anyone mad, or that anyone is chastising you for your opinion. Relax fella.

You can ask anyone else on here that is here regularly and they’ll tell you I’m all for everyone’s differing opinions being said around here whether I agree with them or not. I think at some point I’ve disagreed and agreed on various topics with everyone here.

I’m sure, if you’re around more I’ll agree with you on things too.

I can assure you though, that none of your posts have made me mad and I haven’t chastised you. Lol


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They have made me mad, really really mad


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That’s because you’re an emotional princess.


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RE: Delaware - GAME 10 - CAA GAME 1
(12-31-2021 02:12 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(12-31-2021 09:43 AM)GrayHawk Wrote:  
(12-30-2021 01:55 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(12-30-2021 09:14 AM)GrayHawk Wrote:  
(12-30-2021 09:00 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Sorry, that just isn't the case. I've been to two games and watched every other game available on TV. You can go rewatch the games on FLO and compare the offensive movement, passing and the amount we drive to the basket vs. shoot the three from the beginning to the High Point game. We have a completely different offensive strategy. We literally had four guys standing around the perimeter at the three point line and passed around the perimeter then took a three or somebody went one on one. That was our offense. Nothing close to what we are doing now. There is no way the same system produced twice as many three point attempts on average the first seven games as it has in the past three games. That's not just who is executing the system correctly, that's a strategic change. Siddle has said there was a change himself. He now refers to us as an "inside out" offense. He never said that until recently and the proof is in the three point attempts. It's a complete 180 on strategy. We started as a three point shooting team first and changed to an inside out offense.

I'm really not sure why this is a debate. It's a good move for the team, a credit to Siddle and the staff for making the change and a credit to the players for executing the change.

To think a coach would simply "change systems" after a few games is absolutely ludicrous. that did NOT happen. Some things changed yes , but our entire offensive system did not. Its not how D1 basketball works friend.

Ok. So the fact we are shooting HALF as many three pointers now isn't a change in strategy? Got it. That means when our players were shooting TWICE as many three pointers Siddle didn't want that, but the players just did what they wanted anyhow? Don't think so. And no, it isn't ludicrous to think a coach would change his offensive strategy when we were one of the worst offensive teams in the nation. As a coach, you may think you have the players to run the strategy you want, but reality always kicks in and a good coach will change if needed. And FWIW, changing "strategy" and changing "systems" are not the same. We didn't all of the sudden implement a Princeton style system, we just changed our strategy to drive far more and shoot three pointers far less. Are you denying that has changed? I guess I should listen to you and deny the stats and my lying eyes.

You also need to read my entire post, not simply the parts that makes you mad. I am not the one who used the term "SYSTEM" first... YOU are. As stated in the above post I hope we all know the difference between a system and a strategy.. I also said in a post yes, some things have changed, but the system has NOT. Going forward please refrain from coming on here chastising me about using a term system when YOU were the first to bring it up.


Who said anyone was mad? I haven’t been mad about anything. Furthermore, nobody is chastising you.

You really have some thin skin if you think basketball disagreements as fans of the same team makes anyone mad, or that anyone is chastising you for your opinion. Relax fella.

You can ask anyone else on here that is here regularly and they’ll tell you I’m all for everyone’s differing opinions being said around here whether I agree with them or not. I think at some point I’ve disagreed and agreed on various topics with everyone here.

I’m sure, if you’re around more I’ll agree with you on things too.

I can assure you though, that none of your posts have made me mad and I haven’t chastised you. Lol


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(12-31-2021 11:07 AM)GrayHawk Wrote:  
(12-31-2021 10:32 AM)82hawk Wrote:  
(12-31-2021 09:43 AM)GrayHawk Wrote:  
(12-30-2021 01:55 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(12-30-2021 09:14 AM)GrayHawk Wrote:  To think a coach would simply "change systems" after a few games is absolutely ludicrous. that did NOT happen. Some things changed yes , but our entire offensive system did not. Its not how D1 basketball works friend.

Ok. So the fact we are shooting HALF as many three pointers now isn't a change in strategy? Got it. That means when our players were shooting TWICE as many three pointers Siddle didn't want that, but the players just did what they wanted anyhow? Don't think so. And no, it isn't ludicrous to think a coach would change his offensive strategy when we were one of the worst offensive teams in the nation. As a coach, you may think you have the players to run the strategy you want, but reality always kicks in and a good coach will change if needed. And FWIW, changing "strategy" and changing "systems" are not the same. We didn't all of the sudden implement a Princeton style system, we just changed our strategy to drive far more and shoot three pointers far less. Are you denying that has changed? I guess I should listen to you and deny the stats and my lying eyes.

You also need to read my entire post, not simply the parts that makes you mad. I am not the one who used the term "SYSTEM" first... YOU are. As stated in the above post I hope we all know the difference between a system and a strategy.. I also said in a post yes, some things have changed, but the system has NOT. Going forward please refrain from coming on here chastising me about using a term system when YOU were the first to bring it up.

You are really reaching here. I use the word strategy every single time except once. And that's what you focused on? I even made it clear what I meant when I discussed switching to a Princeton style system to clarify the difference. Not to mention multiple, multiple posts over weeks specifically addressing the fact we weren't driving and kicking the ball out and instead we shot three pointers first.

So now that we're clear on the difference between a system and a strategy, can we agree that a definite strategic change has been made where we are moving, passing, setting picks and driving more and taking less three-pointers?

It seems you want to blame me for reading your entire post man...What word did you use the other time? I've also acknowledged on multiple posts that some things had changed. Mainly the "ISO" as some here labeled it, in search of a mismatch where any one of a number of guards (Sims, Phillips and Okaru) mainly can take their man off the dribble to the hole creating a need for the opposition to make a decision on whether to help or not. They help, we dish to the open guy. They don't help, we take it to the rack or a pull up for a short mid range jumper. Since we are now clear on that can we also agree that we do not need someone on staff to look at Bellarmine Universitys "system" and try and emulate it as the thread you started several weeks ago implied?

If you read past the title you'd know it was a joke.

"This is almost the exact opposite style of offense we have at UNCW where we pretty much stand around with no cutting or picks. Can't hurt to try some of this."

Then this: "The post was done in jest, dripping with sarcasm, but with a slight hope it catches someones eye."

But every post, every criticism, every word about the offense had to do with movement of players, movement of the ball and passing. 70's happened to post about Bellarmine which took passing and cutting to the extreme. And lo and behold look what we're doing with success now? You may not have liked the criticism, but when we had one of the worst offenses in the country in multiple areas, the criticism was valid. And even if the coaches or some fans don't like criticism, changes were made, which means there was a problem. I have been a Siddle fan since Keatts left and advocated for him to be hired at the time. And i've been a supporter and have believed in Siddle and his style of play since he was hired. But I am not a blind supporter of anyone and it would be hypocritical of me to ignore glaring problems to the degree we were at. If Siddle is going to stay he has to win, and without the changes that were made he'd be heading towards a really bad season in CAA play and that would affect recruiting and his ability to win and stay. I really like Keatts, but he may be on his way out the door at NCSU...because he isn't winning.

I challenge you to find any unwarranted criticism from me. With the exception of our offensive strategy until a few games ago, I doubt you'll find a more stalwart supporter and defender of Siddle on this board. I'm confident others would agree.

Onward and upward in 2022!
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It wouldn’t be the board if we weren’t bickering. That it’s gone on page after page even after a WIN makes it even better.

Happy New Year fellow Seahawks.
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(12-31-2021 03:44 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(12-31-2021 11:07 AM)GrayHawk Wrote:  
(12-31-2021 10:32 AM)82hawk Wrote:  
(12-31-2021 09:43 AM)GrayHawk Wrote:  
(12-30-2021 01:55 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Ok. So the fact we are shooting HALF as many three pointers now isn't a change in strategy? Got it. That means when our players were shooting TWICE as many three pointers Siddle didn't want that, but the players just did what they wanted anyhow? Don't think so. And no, it isn't ludicrous to think a coach would change his offensive strategy when we were one of the worst offensive teams in the nation. As a coach, you may think you have the players to run the strategy you want, but reality always kicks in and a good coach will change if needed. And FWIW, changing "strategy" and changing "systems" are not the same. We didn't all of the sudden implement a Princeton style system, we just changed our strategy to drive far more and shoot three pointers far less. Are you denying that has changed? I guess I should listen to you and deny the stats and my lying eyes.

You also need to read my entire post, not simply the parts that makes you mad. I am not the one who used the term "SYSTEM" first... YOU are. As stated in the above post I hope we all know the difference between a system and a strategy.. I also said in a post yes, some things have changed, but the system has NOT. Going forward please refrain from coming on here chastising me about using a term system when YOU were the first to bring it up.

You are really reaching here. I use the word strategy every single time except once. And that's what you focused on? I even made it clear what I meant when I discussed switching to a Princeton style system to clarify the difference. Not to mention multiple, multiple posts over weeks specifically addressing the fact we weren't driving and kicking the ball out and instead we shot three pointers first.

So now that we're clear on the difference between a system and a strategy, can we agree that a definite strategic change has been made where we are moving, passing, setting picks and driving more and taking less three-pointers?

It seems you want to blame me for reading your entire post man...What word did you use the other time? I've also acknowledged on multiple posts that some things had changed. Mainly the "ISO" as some here labeled it, in search of a mismatch where any one of a number of guards (Sims, Phillips and Okaru) mainly can take their man off the dribble to the hole creating a need for the opposition to make a decision on whether to help or not. They help, we dish to the open guy. They don't help, we take it to the rack or a pull up for a short mid range jumper. Since we are now clear on that can we also agree that we do not need someone on staff to look at Bellarmine Universitys "system" and try and emulate it as the thread you started several weeks ago implied?

If you read past the title you'd know it was a joke.

"This is almost the exact opposite style of offense we have at UNCW where we pretty much stand around with no cutting or picks. Can't hurt to try some of this."

Then this: "The post was done in jest, dripping with sarcasm, but with a slight hope it catches someones eye."

But every post, every criticism, every word about the offense had to do with movement of players, movement of the ball and passing. 70's happened to post about Bellarmine which took passing and cutting to the extreme. And lo and behold look what we're doing with success now? You may not have liked the criticism, but when we had one of the worst offenses in the country in multiple areas, the criticism was valid. And even if the coaches or some fans don't like criticism, changes were made, which means there was a problem. I have been a Siddle fan since Keatts left and advocated for him to be hired at the time. And i've been a supporter and have believed in Siddle and his style of play since he was hired. But I am not a blind supporter of anyone and it would be hypocritical of me to ignore glaring problems to the degree we were at. If Siddle is going to stay he has to win, and without the changes that were made he'd be heading towards a really bad season in CAA play and that would affect recruiting and his ability to win and stay. I really like Keatts, but he may be on his way out the door at NCSU...because he isn't winning.

I challenge you to find any unwarranted criticism from me. With the exception of our offensive strategy until a few games ago, I doubt you'll find a more stalwart supporter and defender of Siddle on this board. I'm confident others would agree.

Onward and upward in 2022!


This is true (the staunch Siddle supporter part). My old friend 82 here took quite a bit of heat in the off season for it and even at the beginning of the season. So it is quite comical to see him getting mauled for being anti-Siddle.

I didn’t agree with him on some things. Some things I do. We remain friends, and fellow Seahawks. That’s the beauty of the message boards.


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(12-31-2021 04:12 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  It wouldn’t be the board if we weren’t bickering. That it’s gone on page after page even after a WIN makes it even better.

Happy New Year fellow Seahawks.


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(12-31-2021 04:30 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(12-31-2021 04:12 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  It wouldn’t be the board if we weren’t bickering. That it’s gone on page after page even after a WIN makes it even better.

Happy New Year fellow Seahawks.


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04-cheers

Now, where is the real enemy of UNCW, Keatts and Siddle after a four game winning streak and our best win of the year. Not a peep. Let's take aim where it's really warranted.

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(12-31-2021 03:44 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(12-31-2021 11:07 AM)GrayHawk Wrote:  
(12-31-2021 10:32 AM)82hawk Wrote:  
(12-31-2021 09:43 AM)GrayHawk Wrote:  
(12-30-2021 01:55 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Ok. So the fact we are shooting HALF as many three pointers now isn't a change in strategy? Got it. That means when our players were shooting TWICE as many three pointers Siddle didn't want that, but the players just did what they wanted anyhow? Don't think so. And no, it isn't ludicrous to think a coach would change his offensive strategy when we were one of the worst offensive teams in the nation. As a coach, you may think you have the players to run the strategy you want, but reality always kicks in and a good coach will change if needed. And FWIW, changing "strategy" and changing "systems" are not the same. We didn't all of the sudden implement a Princeton style system, we just changed our strategy to drive far more and shoot three pointers far less. Are you denying that has changed? I guess I should listen to you and deny the stats and my lying eyes.

You also need to read my entire post, not simply the parts that makes you mad. I am not the one who used the term "SYSTEM" first... YOU are. As stated in the above post I hope we all know the difference between a system and a strategy.. I also said in a post yes, some things have changed, but the system has NOT. Going forward please refrain from coming on here chastising me about using a term system when YOU were the first to bring it up.

You are really reaching here. I use the word strategy every single time except once. And that's what you focused on? I even made it clear what I meant when I discussed switching to a Princeton style system to clarify the difference. Not to mention multiple, multiple posts over weeks specifically addressing the fact we weren't driving and kicking the ball out and instead we shot three pointers first.

So now that we're clear on the difference between a system and a strategy, can we agree that a definite strategic change has been made where we are moving, passing, setting picks and driving more and taking less three-pointers?

It seems you want to blame me for reading your entire post man...What word did you use the other time? I've also acknowledged on multiple posts that some things had changed. Mainly the "ISO" as some here labeled it, in search of a mismatch where any one of a number of guards (Sims, Phillips and Okaru) mainly can take their man off the dribble to the hole creating a need for the opposition to make a decision on whether to help or not. They help, we dish to the open guy. They don't help, we take it to the rack or a pull up for a short mid range jumper. Since we are now clear on that can we also agree that we do not need someone on staff to look at Bellarmine Universitys "system" and try and emulate it as the thread you started several weeks ago implied?

If you read past the title you'd know it was a joke.

"This is almost the exact opposite style of offense we have at UNCW where we pretty much stand around with no cutting or picks. Can't hurt to try some of this."

Then this: "The post was done in jest, dripping with sarcasm, but with a slight hope it catches someones eye."

But every post, every criticism, every word about the offense had to do with movement of players, movement of the ball and passing. 70's happened to post about Bellarmine which took passing and cutting to the extreme. And lo and behold look what we're doing with success now? You may not have liked the criticism, but when we had one of the worst offenses in the country in multiple areas, the criticism was valid. And even if the coaches or some fans don't like criticism, changes were made, which means there was a problem. I have been a Siddle fan since Keatts left and advocated for him to be hired at the time. And i've been a supporter and have believed in Siddle and his style of play since he was hired. But I am not a blind supporter of anyone and it would be hypocritical of me to ignore glaring problems to the degree we were at. If Siddle is going to stay he has to win, and without the changes that were made he'd be heading towards a really bad season in CAA play and that would affect recruiting and his ability to win and stay. I really like Keatts, but he may be on his way out the door at NCSU...because he isn't winning.

I challenge you to find any unwarranted criticism from me. With the exception of our offensive strategy until a few games ago, I doubt you'll find a more stalwart supporter and defender of Siddle on this board. I'm confident others would agree.

Onward and upward in 2022!
I won't take you up on the unwarranted criticism, but I will on the onward and upward in 2022 part. Happy New Year to you and yours!
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(12-31-2021 06:05 PM)GrayHawk Wrote:  
(12-31-2021 03:44 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(12-31-2021 11:07 AM)GrayHawk Wrote:  
(12-31-2021 10:32 AM)82hawk Wrote:  
(12-31-2021 09:43 AM)GrayHawk Wrote:  You also need to read my entire post, not simply the parts that makes you mad. I am not the one who used the term "SYSTEM" first... YOU are. As stated in the above post I hope we all know the difference between a system and a strategy.. I also said in a post yes, some things have changed, but the system has NOT. Going forward please refrain from coming on here chastising me about using a term system when YOU were the first to bring it up.

You are really reaching here. I use the word strategy every single time except once. And that's what you focused on? I even made it clear what I meant when I discussed switching to a Princeton style system to clarify the difference. Not to mention multiple, multiple posts over weeks specifically addressing the fact we weren't driving and kicking the ball out and instead we shot three pointers first.

So now that we're clear on the difference between a system and a strategy, can we agree that a definite strategic change has been made where we are moving, passing, setting picks and driving more and taking less three-pointers?

It seems you want to blame me for reading your entire post man...What word did you use the other time? I've also acknowledged on multiple posts that some things had changed. Mainly the "ISO" as some here labeled it, in search of a mismatch where any one of a number of guards (Sims, Phillips and Okaru) mainly can take their man off the dribble to the hole creating a need for the opposition to make a decision on whether to help or not. They help, we dish to the open guy. They don't help, we take it to the rack or a pull up for a short mid range jumper. Since we are now clear on that can we also agree that we do not need someone on staff to look at Bellarmine Universitys "system" and try and emulate it as the thread you started several weeks ago implied?

If you read past the title you'd know it was a joke.

"This is almost the exact opposite style of offense we have at UNCW where we pretty much stand around with no cutting or picks. Can't hurt to try some of this."

Then this: "The post was done in jest, dripping with sarcasm, but with a slight hope it catches someones eye."

But every post, every criticism, every word about the offense had to do with movement of players, movement of the ball and passing. 70's happened to post about Bellarmine which took passing and cutting to the extreme. And lo and behold look what we're doing with success now? You may not have liked the criticism, but when we had one of the worst offenses in the country in multiple areas, the criticism was valid. And even if the coaches or some fans don't like criticism, changes were made, which means there was a problem. I have been a Siddle fan since Keatts left and advocated for him to be hired at the time. And i've been a supporter and have believed in Siddle and his style of play since he was hired. But I am not a blind supporter of anyone and it would be hypocritical of me to ignore glaring problems to the degree we were at. If Siddle is going to stay he has to win, and without the changes that were made he'd be heading towards a really bad season in CAA play and that would affect recruiting and his ability to win and stay. I really like Keatts, but he may be on his way out the door at NCSU...because he isn't winning.

I challenge you to find any unwarranted criticism from me. With the exception of our offensive strategy until a few games ago, I doubt you'll find a more stalwart supporter and defender of Siddle on this board. I'm confident others would agree.

Onward and upward in 2022!
I won't take you up on the unwarranted criticism, but I will on the onward and upward in 2022 part. Happy New Year to you and yours!


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(12-31-2021 06:37 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(12-31-2021 06:05 PM)GrayHawk Wrote:  
(12-31-2021 03:44 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(12-31-2021 11:07 AM)GrayHawk Wrote:  
(12-31-2021 10:32 AM)82hawk Wrote:  You are really reaching here. I use the word strategy every single time except once. And that's what you focused on? I even made it clear what I meant when I discussed switching to a Princeton style system to clarify the difference. Not to mention multiple, multiple posts over weeks specifically addressing the fact we weren't driving and kicking the ball out and instead we shot three pointers first.

So now that we're clear on the difference between a system and a strategy, can we agree that a definite strategic change has been made where we are moving, passing, setting picks and driving more and taking less three-pointers?

It seems you want to blame me for reading your entire post man...What word did you use the other time? I've also acknowledged on multiple posts that some things had changed. Mainly the "ISO" as some here labeled it, in search of a mismatch where any one of a number of guards (Sims, Phillips and Okaru) mainly can take their man off the dribble to the hole creating a need for the opposition to make a decision on whether to help or not. They help, we dish to the open guy. They don't help, we take it to the rack or a pull up for a short mid range jumper. Since we are now clear on that can we also agree that we do not need someone on staff to look at Bellarmine Universitys "system" and try and emulate it as the thread you started several weeks ago implied?

If you read past the title you'd know it was a joke.

"This is almost the exact opposite style of offense we have at UNCW where we pretty much stand around with no cutting or picks. Can't hurt to try some of this."

Then this: "The post was done in jest, dripping with sarcasm, but with a slight hope it catches someones eye."

But every post, every criticism, every word about the offense had to do with movement of players, movement of the ball and passing. 70's happened to post about Bellarmine which took passing and cutting to the extreme. And lo and behold look what we're doing with success now? You may not have liked the criticism, but when we had one of the worst offenses in the country in multiple areas, the criticism was valid. And even if the coaches or some fans don't like criticism, changes were made, which means there was a problem. I have been a Siddle fan since Keatts left and advocated for him to be hired at the time. And i've been a supporter and have believed in Siddle and his style of play since he was hired. But I am not a blind supporter of anyone and it would be hypocritical of me to ignore glaring problems to the degree we were at. If Siddle is going to stay he has to win, and without the changes that were made he'd be heading towards a really bad season in CAA play and that would affect recruiting and his ability to win and stay. I really like Keatts, but he may be on his way out the door at NCSU...because he isn't winning.

I challenge you to find any unwarranted criticism from me. With the exception of our offensive strategy until a few games ago, I doubt you'll find a more stalwart supporter and defender of Siddle on this board. I'm confident others would agree.

Onward and upward in 2022!
I won't take you up on the unwarranted criticism, but I will on the onward and upward in 2022 part. Happy New Year to you and yours!


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(12-31-2021 06:42 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(12-31-2021 06:37 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(12-31-2021 06:05 PM)GrayHawk Wrote:  
(12-31-2021 03:44 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(12-31-2021 11:07 AM)GrayHawk Wrote:  It seems you want to blame me for reading your entire post man...What word did you use the other time? I've also acknowledged on multiple posts that some things had changed. Mainly the "ISO" as some here labeled it, in search of a mismatch where any one of a number of guards (Sims, Phillips and Okaru) mainly can take their man off the dribble to the hole creating a need for the opposition to make a decision on whether to help or not. They help, we dish to the open guy. They don't help, we take it to the rack or a pull up for a short mid range jumper. Since we are now clear on that can we also agree that we do not need someone on staff to look at Bellarmine Universitys "system" and try and emulate it as the thread you started several weeks ago implied?

If you read past the title you'd know it was a joke.

"This is almost the exact opposite style of offense we have at UNCW where we pretty much stand around with no cutting or picks. Can't hurt to try some of this."

Then this: "The post was done in jest, dripping with sarcasm, but with a slight hope it catches someones eye."

But every post, every criticism, every word about the offense had to do with movement of players, movement of the ball and passing. 70's happened to post about Bellarmine which took passing and cutting to the extreme. And lo and behold look what we're doing with success now? You may not have liked the criticism, but when we had one of the worst offenses in the country in multiple areas, the criticism was valid. And even if the coaches or some fans don't like criticism, changes were made, which means there was a problem. I have been a Siddle fan since Keatts left and advocated for him to be hired at the time. And i've been a supporter and have believed in Siddle and his style of play since he was hired. But I am not a blind supporter of anyone and it would be hypocritical of me to ignore glaring problems to the degree we were at. If Siddle is going to stay he has to win, and without the changes that were made he'd be heading towards a really bad season in CAA play and that would affect recruiting and his ability to win and stay. I really like Keatts, but he may be on his way out the door at NCSU...because he isn't winning.

I challenge you to find any unwarranted criticism from me. With the exception of our offensive strategy until a few games ago, I doubt you'll find a more stalwart supporter and defender of Siddle on this board. I'm confident others would agree.

Onward and upward in 2022!
I won't take you up on the unwarranted criticism, but I will on the onward and upward in 2022 part. Happy New Year to you and yours!


Hey Oh! Do we need a little bubbly?


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GrayHawk, I think Hoops is flirting with you now.


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The bubbly was for others. But, hey whatever floats your boat


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