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RE: Bowl Season
(12-19-2021 11:27 PM)RedRocker Wrote:  
(12-18-2021 08:20 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(12-18-2021 07:51 AM)doss2 Wrote:  
(12-17-2021 09:03 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  
(12-17-2021 09:00 PM)doss2 Wrote:  Almost no one in stands for either bowl game today!

The Bahamas Bowl is an international destination...not sure what quarantine measures apply, but international travel is daunting right now.

The announcers said The Bahamas was wide open for travel.

Yeah, no travel restrictions whatsoever. Last time I checked with a buddy over in the AD, UT had sold a whopping 42 tickets out if their mandatory allotment. Considering they brought 212 athletes, band members, support staff, and athletics staff, along with all of that cargo...they probably lost a solid $500,000. Why do we have these frigging games?

Buddy of mine who had a few of his students down there through the band said they told him MAYBE 600 people total in the stands.
Some of these bowls need to go away. 05-mafia
Totally agree! When the tourist revenue and game revenue no longer justify the cost they will die. Also going 6-6 should not get rewarded. 8 wins should be minimum. Only 43 teams had 8 wins. That is about half of the 6 win teams.
 
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So long as people watch these bowl games they aren't going anywhere even if there aren't fans in the stands. The networks need content and this country loves football.
 
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RE: Bowl Season
(12-19-2021 11:53 PM)doss2 Wrote:  
(12-19-2021 11:27 PM)RedRocker Wrote:  
(12-18-2021 08:20 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(12-18-2021 07:51 AM)doss2 Wrote:  
(12-17-2021 09:03 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  The Bahamas Bowl is an international destination...not sure what quarantine measures apply, but international travel is daunting right now.

The announcers said The Bahamas was wide open for travel.

Yeah, no travel restrictions whatsoever. Last time I checked with a buddy over in the AD, UT had sold a whopping 42 tickets out if their mandatory allotment. Considering they brought 212 athletes, band members, support staff, and athletics staff, along with all of that cargo...they probably lost a solid $500,000. Why do we have these frigging games?

Buddy of mine who had a few of his students down there through the band said they told him MAYBE 600 people total in the stands.
Some of these bowls need to go away. 05-mafia
Totally agree! When the tourist revenue and game revenue no longer justify the cost they will die. Also going 6-6 should not get rewarded. 8 wins should be minimum. Only 43 teams had 8 wins. That is about half of the 6 win teams.

The P5 conferences need the revenue from the Gasperilla bowl & The Cheezit bowl so the conference heads can afford those nice new BMW's the were promised.
 
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(12-19-2021 11:56 PM)Racinejake Wrote:  So long as people watch these bowl games they aren't going anywhere even if there aren't fans in the stands. The networks need content and this country loves to gamble on football.

Fify
 
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RE: Bowl Season
First AAC bowl game:

Tulsa v ODU

ODU wins al were vs teams with losing records, whereas Tulsa beat SMU and Memphis, and played OKS, OSU and UC tight.

Look for Tulsa to give ODU a Golden Shower by 2 TD's or more.
 
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(12-20-2021 01:24 PM)doss2 Wrote:  First AAC bowl game:

Tulsa v ODU

ODU wins al were vs teams with losing records, whereas Tulsa beat SMU and Memphis, and played OKS, OSU and UC tight.

Look for Tulsa to give ODU a Golden Shower by 2 TD's or more.

Tulsa is one of those teams that plays to their competition— they might win this but I can see them screwing the pooch too.
 
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RE: Bowl Season
(12-20-2021 01:35 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(12-20-2021 01:24 PM)doss2 Wrote:  First AAC bowl game:

Tulsa v ODU

ODU wins al were vs teams with losing records, whereas Tulsa beat SMU and Memphis, and played OKS, OSU and UC tight.

Look for Tulsa to give ODU a Golden Shower by 2 TD's or more.

Tulsa is one of those teams that plays to their competition— they might win this but I can see them screwing the pooch too.

Hopefully, it doesn't end in a brawl like last year.



 
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RE: Bowl Season
(12-20-2021 01:43 PM)RuckleSt Wrote:  
(12-20-2021 01:35 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(12-20-2021 01:24 PM)doss2 Wrote:  First AAC bowl game:

Tulsa v ODU

ODU wins al were vs teams with losing records, whereas Tulsa beat SMU and Memphis, and played OKS, OSU and UC tight.

Look for Tulsa to give ODU a Golden Shower by 2 TD's or more.

Tulsa is one of those teams that plays to their competition— they might win this but I can see them screwing the pooch too.

Hopefully, it doesn't end in a brawl like last year.



Are you implying it was Tulsa's fault?
 
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I would say yes. Tulsa players may have an inferiority complex?
 
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(12-20-2021 02:19 PM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  I would say yes. Tulsa players may have an inferiority complex?

They are very “chippy”. When they came to Nippert, I observed them frequently hitting after the whistle, jumping into a pile… there was a moment when one of our guys ran out of bounds onto their sidelines and the team started surrounding our player and talking smack. Some could argue it’s playing “tough-nose” football, but I could see how an opponent might get tired of it really quickly.
 
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RE: Bowl Season
(12-20-2021 01:50 PM)doss2 Wrote:  
(12-20-2021 01:43 PM)RuckleSt Wrote:  
(12-20-2021 01:35 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(12-20-2021 01:24 PM)doss2 Wrote:  First AAC bowl game:

Tulsa v ODU

ODU wins al were vs teams with losing records, whereas Tulsa beat SMU and Memphis, and played OKS, OSU and UC tight.

Look for Tulsa to give ODU a Golden Shower by 2 TD's or more.

Tulsa is one of those teams that plays to their competition— they might win this but I can see them screwing the pooch too.

Hopefully, it doesn't end in a brawl like last year.



Are you implying it was Tulsa's fault?

Yes, at least 50% at fault.
 
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RE: Bowl Season
(12-20-2021 02:27 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(12-20-2021 02:19 PM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  I would say yes. Tulsa players may have an inferiority complex?

They are very “chippy”. When they came to Nippert, I observed them frequently hitting after the whistle, jumping into a pile… there was a moment when one of our guys ran out of bounds onto their sidelines and the team started surrounding our player and talking smack. Some could argue it’s playing “tough-nose” football, but I could see how an opponent might get tired of it really quickly.

Tulsa was "Spoofing" the snap-count all game too.

I will be glad to never play them again. Even if we beat them 100 times out of a hundred, I hope we never play them again.
 
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They were penalized at least once for spoofing the snap count, but refs let it continue
- they weren’t growing to flag them every play.
 
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RE: Bowl Season
Bahamas Bowl: MTSU 31, Toledo 24
Cure Bowl: Coastal Carolina 47, NIU 41
Boca Raton Bowl: Western Kentucky 59, Appalachian State 38
New Mexico Bowl: Fresno State 31, UTEP 24
Independence Bowl: UAB 31, No. 13 BYU 28
LendingTree Bowl: Liberty 56, Eastern Michigan
LA Bowl: Utah State 24, Oregon State 13
New Orleans Bowl: No. 23 Louisiana 36, Marshall 21
Myrtle Beach Bowl: Tulsa 30 ODU 17

CUSA +3 -3
SBC ++2 -1
MW +2
IND +1 -1
MAC -3
P12 -1
AAC +1
 
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RE: Bowl Season
Today, Tue, Dec 21

Famous Idaho Potato Bowl

Kent State Golden Flashes
7-6-0
3:30 PM
@ Wyoming Cowboys
6-6-0
WYO favored to win

Frisco Bowl

UTSA Roadrunners
12-1-0
7:30 PM
@ San Diego State Aztecs
11-2-0

SDSU favored to win
 
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(12-20-2021 07:09 PM)doss2 Wrote:  Bahamas Bowl: MTSU 31, Toledo 24
Cure Bowl: Coastal Carolina 47, NIU 41
Boca Raton Bowl: Western Kentucky 59, Appalachian State 38
New Mexico Bowl: Fresno State 31, UTEP 24
Independence Bowl: UAB 31, No. 13 BYU 28
LendingTree Bowl: Liberty 56, Eastern Michigan
LA Bowl: Utah State 24, Oregon State 13
New Orleans Bowl: No. 23 Louisiana 36, Marshall 21
Myrtle Beach Bowl: Tulsa 30 ODU 17

CUSA +3 -3
SBC ++2 -1
MW +2
IND +1 -1
MAC -3
P12 -1
AAC +1

WY 52 Kent 38

MAC now 0-4 and MW 3-0
 
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Interesting stat: Wyoming finishes 7-6. They escaped to beat UConn 24-22 and barely beat Montana state 19-16. They went 3-0 against the MAC, including beating their eventual champion NIU and runner-up Kent State.
 
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RE: Bowl Season
Bahamas Bowl: MTSU 31, Toledo 24
Cure Bowl: Coastal Carolina 47, NIU 41
Boca Raton Bowl: Western Kentucky 59, Appalachian State 38
New Mexico Bowl: Fresno State 31, UTEP 24
Independence Bowl: UAB 31, No. 13 BYU 28
LendingTree Bowl: Liberty 56, Eastern Michigan
LA Bowl: Utah State 24, Oregon State 13
New Orleans Bowl: No. 23 Louisiana 36, Marshall 21
Myrtle Beach Bowl: Tulsa 30 ODU 17
Potato Bowl: Wyoming 52 Kent 38
Frisco Bowl: SDSU 38 UTSA 24


CUSA +3 -4
SBC ++2 -1
MW +4
IND +1 -1
MAC -4
P12 -1
AAC +1

Wednesday, Dec. 22
Armed Forces Bowl
Missouri vs. Army
8 p.m. | ESPN
Amon G. Carter Stadium in Fort Worth, Texas
 
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I know it's dangerous to try to read too much into one season's bowl results but the MAC has simply been shut out this December.

Maybe the conference will be competitive in FCS if it elects to go that direction but in terms of FBS competitiveness, attendance, fans, and media interest it appears to be fading fast.
 
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(12-22-2021 02:17 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  I know it's dangerous to try to read too much into one season's bowl results but the MAC has simply been shut out this December.

Maybe the conference will be competitive in FCS if it elects to go that direction but in terms of FBS competitiveness, attendance, fans, and media interest it appears to be fading fast.

MW is rocking it.

Now the AAC is 1-0 but of the remaining games only Memphis is favored.

The MAC is a perfect example of what a conference should be.

Geography all contiguous states, OH, MI, IN, IL, NY. Pretty much a bus ride apart.

Similar size.

Similar type, all public universities.

That said going FCS makes sense.
 
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