Quote:MSNBC network national affairs analyst John Heilemann said Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press” that there were “30 million people right now who are ready to take up arms” for former President Donald Trump.

Anchor Chuck Todd said, “I want to read what Bart Gellman wrote in the cover story for The Atlantic. Some might say it is hyperbolic, but John Heilemann, I’m curious if you think it is? The headline is Trump’s Next Coup Has Already Begun. ‘Trump and his party convinced a dauntingly large number of Americans, that the essential workings of democracy are corrupt, that the made-up claims of fraud are true, that only cheating can thwart their victory at their polls, that tyranny usurped their government and that violence is a legitimate response.’ Hyperbolic or fact?”

Heilemann said, “Fact, I think. The strength of that Gellman piece is it lays out this extraordinary reality that there is this research that shows something like 8% and maybe as many as 12% that say Joe Biden was illegitimate and violence is an appropriate tool to removing him and restoring Donald Trump. That’s between 20 and 30 million people. That’s a mass movement in America in favor of political violence, which is a new thing. We’ve been political violence before, lynching many things over the course of time that African-Americans have suffered, but this is 30 million people right now who are ready to take up arms.”

He added, “You put that together with what the president, the former president, and his allies are doing in the political realm, statehouses, state legislatures and the party apparatus to be able to engineer a situation where they are in a stronger position to pull off a coup in 2024 than they were 2020. That’s not hyperbolic at all. Those are all facts.”

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But yet all the violence comes from the political left like BLM and ANTIFA.

“Accuse your enemy of what you do” — Joseph Goebbels
The Left and its propaganda media following the Nazi playbook.

In my opinion he's wrong. It's probably twice that number.

He's got the "ready to take up arms" part right. The reason is not "for Trump" but rather to save the country from the commies that are currently trying to destroy it.

(12-12-2021 12:56 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Quote:MSNBC network national affairs analyst John Heilemann said Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press” that there were “30 million people right now who are ready to take up arms” for former President Donald Trump.

Anchor Chuck Todd said, “I want to read what Bart Gellman wrote in the cover story for The Atlantic. Some might say it is hyperbolic, but John Heilemann, I’m curious if you think it is? The headline is Trump’s Next Coup Has Already Begun. ‘Trump and his party convinced a dauntingly large number of Americans, that the essential workings of democracy are corrupt, that the made-up claims of fraud are true, that only cheating can thwart their victory at their polls, that tyranny usurped their government and that violence is a legitimate response.’ Hyperbolic or fact?”

Heilemann said, “Fact, I think. The strength of that Gellman piece is it lays out this extraordinary reality that there is this research that shows something like 8% and maybe as many as 12% that say Joe Biden was illegitimate and violence is an appropriate tool to removing him and restoring Donald Trump. That’s between 20 and 30 million people. That’s a mass movement in America in favor of political violence, which is a new thing. We’ve been political violence before, lynching many things over the course of time that African-Americans have suffered, but this is 30 million people right now who are ready to take up arms.”

He added, “You put that together with what the president, the former president, and his allies are doing in the political realm, statehouses, state legislatures and the party apparatus to be able to engineer a situation where they are in a stronger position to pull off a coup in 2024 than they were 2020. That’s not hyperbolic at all. Those are all facts.”

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But yet all the violence comes from the political left like BLM and ANTIFA.

And the number of people who believe that violence is an appropriate tool to advance the aims of BLM or Antifa? I wonder why that number was not mentioned?

(12-12-2021 02:38 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  He's got the "ready to take up arms" part right. The reason is not "for Trump" but rather to save the country from the commies that are currently trying to destroy it.

As I read the quote in the OP this jumped out at me:

Quote:‘Trump and his party convinced a dauntingly large number of Americans, that the essential workings of democracy are corrupt, that the made-up claims of fraud are true, that only cheating can thwart their victory at their polls, that tyranny usurped their government and that violence is a legitimate response.’ Hyperbolic or fact?”

Uh, no. We've been convinced of this for far too long and had been losing hope that the GOP would ever do anything about it. They had an idea of the unrest back in 1994 and looked like they had finally figured it out. All they did was dupe us. And we haven't forgotten. We've gotten angry.

It took a political outsider to step in and say enough's enough.

(12-12-2021 12:56 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

I could share the real reasons we have floods and wild fires and mass violence in liberal areas, but whatever.

30 million and one

(12-12-2021 02:38 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  He's got the "ready to take up arms" part right. The reason is not "for Trump" but rather to save the country from the commies that are currently trying to destroy it.

You know sir, you are absolutely right. But they have to have a boogy man.

Than more than 100 million will rise up against these people. The majority of these people are not Trump supporters, nor are they support the extreme left either. If there is a third party formed that is center? Both Trump and Biden would have lost the last election in a landslide.

(12-12-2021 06:34 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Than more than 100 million will rise up against these people. The majority of these people are not Trump supporters, nor are they support the extreme left either. If there is a third party formed that is center? Both Trump and Biden would have lost the last election in a landslide.

No, there are not 100 million ready to defend that idiot Biden.

John Heilemann is a douche.

(12-12-2021 01:51 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  “Accuse your enemy of what you do” — Joseph Goebbels

Exactly. Trump accuses the left of rigging elections when in fact he is the (only) one doing it.

(12-12-2021 09:42 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  

(12-12-2021 01:51 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  “Accuse your enemy of what you do” — Joseph Goebbels

Exactly. Trump accuses the left of rigging elections when in fact he is the (only) one doing it.

So please give us the evidence. We’re waiting.

(12-12-2021 09:42 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  

(12-12-2021 01:51 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  “Accuse your enemy of what you do” — Joseph Goebbels

Exactly. Trump accuses the left of rigging elections when in fact he is the (only) one doing it.

Who rigs elections so they LOSE?

What a maroon.......

I was thinking The Onion, then flipped to Babylon Bee... Then I saw Chuck Todd's name - ugh.

These f-ing people have the same problem as Biden - they do not have answers to address any of their problems so they revert to their three pillars:

Blame Trump
Drum up fear
Rayciss


I saw an absolute great observation the other day on this board..... there are now just as many deaths from Covid SINCE the vaccines started as there were before any vaccines were administered. Imagine if they properly reported the original round Covid deaths properly in 2020 - you know, dying with Covid being labeled as dying from Covid?

Covid deaths under the watchful eye of Biden stands at 417,956. According to MSM he is doing a great job. For families it’s just more and more empty chairs at the dinner table. I guess maybe he isn’t God after all and has no control over Covid, the environment, economy, etc. I really wish fools would stop buying the fool’s gold his administration and MSM are selling. Btw this surpasses Trump’s Covid death total by a lot and not a peep out of MSM.