The whole slide controversy chaps my derriere. Hey Dave Clawson, you didn't lose the ACC Championship because of the fake slide. You lost because Sam Hartman threw as many completions to Pitt defenders as he did to Taylor Morin. Eric Hallett was the 4th leading receiver and scored 1 of 3 TDs Sam threw. Of course Hallett plays for Pitt.

Allow me to introduce the Official Wake Forest Crying Towel:

I like Kenny Pickett, but...

Fake slide was bush league.

(12-11-2021 01:22 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  I like Kenny Pickett, but...

Fake slide was bush league.

Not bush league if it was legal at the time, which it was.

Clawson is a great coach but man is he a whiner. Not just now but in general.

(12-11-2021 04:22 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  Not bush league if it was legal at the time, which it was.

Clawson is a great coach but man is he a whiner. Not just now but in general.

(12-11-2021 04:22 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  Not bush league if it was legal at the time, which it was.

Clawson is a great coach but man is he a whiner. Not just now but in general.

Are we talking about Clawson or Coach K?

(12-12-2021 01:16 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  

(12-11-2021 04:22 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  Not bush league if it was legal at the time, which it was.

Clawson is a great coach but man is he a whiner. Not just now but in general.

Are we talking about Clawson or Coach K?

In this thread, we're talking about Clawson.

Who'd give K a run for his money for the "whiniest b!tch in the ACC".

(12-11-2021 04:22 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  Not bush league if it was legal at the time, which it was.

Clawson is a great coach but man is he a whiner. Not just now but in general.

So taking advantage of a situation where the other players pull up in respect to a rule that was designed to save his a$$ is not bush league.

I guess you would be OK with a Wake guy grabbing him and instead of trying to tackle him holding him up so another guy can take his head off, huh?

I mean, there's no rule that says you HAVE TO tackle the guy, right?

(12-12-2021 03:10 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(12-11-2021 04:22 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  Not bush league if it was legal at the time, which it was.

Clawson is a great coach but man is he a whiner. Not just now but in general.

So taking advantage of a situation where the other players pull up in respect to a rule that was designed to save his a$$ is not bush league.

I guess you would be OK with a Wake guy grabbing him and instead of trying to tackle him holding him up so another guy can take his head off, huh?

I mean, there's no rule that says you HAVE TO tackle the guy, right?

Not bush league despite all those straw men you drew up.

(12-12-2021 03:10 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(12-11-2021 04:22 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  Not bush league if it was legal at the time, which it was.

Clawson is a great coach but man is he a whiner. Not just now but in general.

So taking advantage of a situation where the other players pull up in respect to a rule that was designed to save his a$$ is not bush league.

I guess you would be OK with a Wake guy grabbing him and instead of trying to tackle him holding him up so another guy can take his head off, huh?

I mean, there's no rule that says you HAVE TO tackle the guy, right?

You are really reaching here.

(12-12-2021 10:19 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  

(12-12-2021 03:10 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(12-11-2021 04:22 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  Not bush league if it was legal at the time, which it was.

Clawson is a great coach but man is he a whiner. Not just now but in general.

So taking advantage of a situation where the other players pull up in respect to a rule that was designed to save his a$$ is not bush league.

I guess you would be OK with a Wake guy grabbing him and instead of trying to tackle him holding him up so another guy can take his head off, huh?

I mean, there's no rule that says you HAVE TO tackle the guy, right?

Not bush league despite all those straw men you drew up.

So I guess that's why they moved so fast to make it illegal.

(12-12-2021 10:19 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  

(12-12-2021 03:10 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(12-11-2021 04:22 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  Not bush league if it was legal at the time, which it was.

Clawson is a great coach but man is he a whiner. Not just now but in general.

So taking advantage of a situation where the other players pull up in respect to a rule that was designed to save his a$$ is not bush league.

I guess you would be OK with a Wake guy grabbing him and instead of trying to tackle him holding him up so another guy can take his head off, huh?

I mean, there's no rule that says you HAVE TO tackle the guy, right?

Not bush league despite all those straw men you drew up.

How did you feel about The Unfair Catch?

Abusing rules designed for your own safety is always Busch league.

(12-13-2021 04:05 PM)Mister Emu Wrote:  

(12-12-2021 10:19 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  

(12-12-2021 03:10 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(12-11-2021 04:22 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  Not bush league if it was legal at the time, which it was.

Clawson is a great coach but man is he a whiner. Not just now but in general.

So taking advantage of a situation where the other players pull up in respect to a rule that was designed to save his a$$ is not bush league.

I guess you would be OK with a Wake guy grabbing him and instead of trying to tackle him holding him up so another guy can take his head off, huh?

I mean, there's no rule that says you HAVE TO tackle the guy, right?

Not bush league despite all those straw men you drew up.

How did you feel about The Unfair Catch?

Abusing rules designed for your own safety is always Busch league.

You mean like a fake spike?

In Clawson’s defense, Wake did more this year with likely the fewest resources of any ACC school. Excellent coaching and scheme led to a pretty memorable season for Wake. Being in the conference championship game in a league with a number of historical football powerhouses is a significant accomplishment. That said, Clawson can’t really complain about the non-slide. It was a legal play, even if somewhat unsportsmanlike.

(12-13-2021 09:43 PM)vabearcat Wrote:  In Clawson’s defense, Wake did more this year with likely the fewest resources of any ACC school. Excellent coaching and scheme led to a pretty memorable season for Wake. Being in the conference championship game in a league with a number of historical football powerhouses is a significant accomplishment. That said, Clawson can’t really complain about the non-slide. It was a legal play, even if somewhat unsportsmanlike.

Very true. Its not like that play was the difference in the game. Wake lost convincingly and didnt score in the second half at all.

(12-13-2021 04:09 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 04:05 PM)Mister Emu Wrote:  

(12-12-2021 10:19 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  

(12-12-2021 03:10 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(12-11-2021 04:22 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  Not bush league if it was legal at the time, which it was.

Clawson is a great coach but man is he a whiner. Not just now but in general.

So taking advantage of a situation where the other players pull up in respect to a rule that was designed to save his a$$ is not bush league.

I guess you would be OK with a Wake guy grabbing him and instead of trying to tackle him holding him up so another guy can take his head off, huh?

I mean, there's no rule that says you HAVE TO tackle the guy, right?

Not bush league despite all those straw men you drew up.

How did you feel about The Unfair Catch?

Abusing rules designed for your own safety is always Busch league.

You mean like a fake spike?

Spiking the ball is a player safety rule? And here all this time I thought it was just to stop the clock.

(12-13-2021 10:02 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 09:43 PM)vabearcat Wrote:  In Clawson’s defense, Wake did more this year with likely the fewest resources of any ACC school. Excellent coaching and scheme led to a pretty memorable season for Wake. Being in the conference championship game in a league with a number of historical football powerhouses is a significant accomplishment. That said, Clawson can’t really complain about the non-slide. It was a legal play, even if somewhat unsportsmanlike.

Very true. Its not like that play was the difference in the game. Wake lost convincingly and didnt score in the second half at all.

Instead of 45-21 Pitt, I guess it could've been 38-21 Pitt? Of course, even if the refs had blown the play dead at the point of the "fake" [aborted?] slide, Pitt still might've scored on that drive - thus leaving less time on the clock for Wake (maybe they only score 14 instead of 21?)

(12-14-2021 01:11 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 10:02 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 09:43 PM)vabearcat Wrote:  In Clawson’s defense, Wake did more this year with likely the fewest resources of any ACC school. Excellent coaching and scheme led to a pretty memorable season for Wake. Being in the conference championship game in a league with a number of historical football powerhouses is a significant accomplishment. That said, Clawson can’t really complain about the non-slide. It was a legal play, even if somewhat unsportsmanlike.

Very true. Its not like that play was the difference in the game. Wake lost convincingly and didnt score in the second half at all.

Instead of 45-21 Pitt, I guess it could've been 38-21 Pitt? Of course, even if the refs had blown the play dead at the point of the "fake" [aborted?] slide, Pitt still might've scored on that drive - thus leaving less time on the clock for Wake (maybe they only score 14 instead of 21?)

We only beat them by 3 scores in this scenario. Hence my irritation at Clawson. It wasn't the deciding play or anything. Pitt's defense won them this game. Harmann got tired of being hit and started rushing his throws. Which is exactly how the Narduzzi defense works.