(12-13-2021 09:38 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote: The "Value" of your mortgage? You might wanna have the website you stole that from to explain to you what that means.
(12-13-2021 10:35 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote: I’ll forgive you for not being around in Carter’s presidency but I won’t forgive you for being a tool and believing that horse chit.
I was around during Carter's presidency. Here's what I remember. My dad yelling at the TV during his state of the union saying he had a clothes hanger in his mouth.
And later I learned that's basically when my parents got out of poverty, mainly off the fact they bought their house for like $20k in the early 70's before inflation hit, and sold it 5 years later during Carter's administration for like $40k and inflation had basically paid half their mortgage for them. Remember inflation doesn't raise the amount you owe, it lowers the value of it.
I learned this by looking up the 70's real estate data on houses in Frazier in the Trezevont high school neighborhood where I grew up back when it was still white, believe it or not. Only then did I realize how they were so easily able to turn the corner financially during that time on basic enlisted military pay.
(12-14-2021 07:52 AM)Eldonabe Wrote: It takes time for that catch up - in the mean time you are losing money
Rising interest rates (which must eventually must be done to combat inflation) reduces the real value of your HOUSE not your mortgage
The wage catch-up usually happens quickly, and in the meantime, what are you losing? 5% at most on average? "wow" And yes, sure the real value of your house goes down with increase in interest rates, but that's MORE than made up for with the wild jump in prices before that time. Even today, real estate prices are wildly higher in the last few years.
Quote:3) Has direct impact on real interest payments on long-term fixed loan investments, hurting the rich.
Please explain the direct impact - you are posting this, so you must understand what you are posting? - show your math
It simply means that if you have a mortgage for $100k and pay 3% per year on it, as inflation devalues that $100k, the bank is making less of a return on it's original investment. If inflation is more than 3%, it's taking a loss. Who wins? The person who is paying that mortgage. The bank is effectively paying their mortgage for them when inflation exceeds their interest rate. Same works with government debt with a fixed yield. That's how inflation lowers the real value of national debt.
Quote:4) National debt is directly reduced by the rate of inflation, especially when it's greater than expected.
Are debts forgiven when there is inflation? if you owe 3 Trillion dollars and then there is inflation, do you no longer owe 3 trillion dollars?
After a year of 10% inflation, the real value of 3 trillion goes down 10%. It's simple math. Just because the same top line amount is owed, doesn't mean the real value is the same. Inflation changes real value on loans, not top line amount.
Bottom line is debt holders win when inflation exceeds expectation. Those who lend the debt lose. So why everyone here thinks it's so bad is beyond belief. Sure if we have high inflation for a long period of time, it can wreck the economy, but if you have a large debt and can stay employed, you'll come out the other side a winner.