Dishearteningly, North Texas dropped a spot for beating Old Dominion yesterday. I fear what playing USM on Thursday will do to our ranking.

Out of curiosity, and if anyone has the time, what would it look Conference vs Conference, in 2022-2023 without NET 200+ USM, ODU, and Marshall in CUSA but still retaining the AAC bound programs? I imagine it would compare favorably in mid-major ranks

Edit: CUSA would have an average of 118 with #36 UAB , #57 UNT, and #85 LaTech. Solid.

Edit 2: my math is trash

(01-24-2022 11:55 AM)Engblazr Wrote:  Out of curiosity, and if anyone has the time, what would it look Conference vs Conference, in 2022-2023 without NET 200+ USM, ODU, and Marshall in CUSA but still retaining the AAC bound programs? I imagine it would compare favorably in mid-major ranks

Current CUSA members EXCLUDING USM, ODU and Marshall would have an average NET of 151 using this season's data as of 01.22. It is 132 if you exclude the 3 above plus UTSA that is CUSA's last ranked team at 339.

(01-23-2022 01:50 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  Dishearteningly, North Texas dropped a spot for beating Old Dominion yesterday. I fear what playing USM on Thursday will do to our ranking.

Sorry? We're not that good.

NET rankings thru 1.27

https://stats.ncaa.org/selection_ranking...ties/22483

Current CUSA
UAB 37
North Texas 55
Louisiana Tech 83
Middle Tenn. 124
Fla. Atlantic 139
Western Ky. 143
Charlotte 160
UTEP 169
Rice 178
Old Dominion 225
FIU 243
Marshall 250
Southern Miss. 323
UTSA 331
Average 176

Future CUSA
Louisiana Tech 83
New Mexico St. 88
Liberty 94
Jacksonville St. 122
Middle Tenn. 124
Western Ky. 143
Sam Houston 162
UTEP 169
FIU 243
Average 136

Average comps based on future conference affiliations:
Big East 69
MWC 107
A-10 130
MVC 135
CUSA 136
AAC 137
SBC 200
MAC 205

Average NET variance between the current and future conference membership:
AAC drops <30> spots
CUSA rises 39 spots
SBC drops <5> spots

New AAC average goes up to 123 if you delete UTSA at 331 providing a completely different look.

(01-28-2022 03:07 PM)Grandgreen Wrote:  New AAC average goes up to 123 if you delete UTSA at 331 providing a completely different look.

AAC taking UTSA was always a head scratcher for me....but alas, they are yours like it or not. Gotta factor them in.

(01-28-2022 03:07 PM)Grandgreen Wrote:  New AAC average goes up to 123 if you delete UTSA at 331 providing a completely different look.

And new C-USA goes to 123 without calculating the last place team. Every conference would improve without their worst team

The new CUSA would also go up if you delete its worst NET ranked team (FIU in the 200's). The new AAC would still have a couple teams in the 200's (Tulsa and USF) even if you take out UTSA in the 300's.

If the new SBC deleted their worst ranked NET (USM in the 300's), they still have 5 other programs in the 200's and one more not that far off at 192.

If only it was a simple as deleting our worst NET ranked team. ha

(01-28-2022 03:21 PM)NoogaRaider Wrote:  

(01-28-2022 03:07 PM)Grandgreen Wrote:  New AAC average goes up to 123 if you delete UTSA at 331 providing a completely different look.

AAC taking UTSA was always a head scratcher for me....but alas, they are yours like it or not. Gotta factor them in.

Well, they did have a good football season. You can't put a price on history like that!

(01-28-2022 03:26 PM)tyler90wm Wrote:  

(01-28-2022 03:07 PM)Grandgreen Wrote:  New AAC average goes up to 123 if you delete UTSA at 331 providing a completely different look.

And new C-USA goes to 123 without calculating the last place team. Every conference would improve without their worst team

Yes, that would happen; but show me one conference were one team has the same negative impact on the ranking as UTSA currently has on the new AAC.

(01-28-2022 05:15 PM)Grandgreen Wrote:  

(01-28-2022 03:26 PM)tyler90wm Wrote:  

(01-28-2022 03:07 PM)Grandgreen Wrote:  New AAC average goes up to 123 if you delete UTSA at 331 providing a completely different look.

And new C-USA goes to 123 without calculating the last place team. Every conference would improve without their worst team

Yes, that would happen; but show me one conference were one team has the same negative impact on the ranking as UTSA currently has on the new AAC.

A10-Fordham, but the point is moot. We can talk theoretically all day, like what would happen to CUSA's average NET if we JUUUUST had Auburn, but reality is what it is brother.

(01-28-2022 05:24 PM)NoogaRaider Wrote:  

(01-28-2022 05:15 PM)Grandgreen Wrote:  

(01-28-2022 03:26 PM)tyler90wm Wrote:  

(01-28-2022 03:07 PM)Grandgreen Wrote:  New AAC average goes up to 123 if you delete UTSA at 331 providing a completely different look.

And new C-USA goes to 123 without calculating the last place team. Every conference would improve without their worst team

Yes, that would happen; but show me one conference were one team has the same negative impact on the ranking as UTSA currently has on the new AAC.

A10-Fordham, but the point is moot. We can talk theoretically all day, like what would happen to CUSA's average NET if we JUUUUST had Auburn, but reality is what it is brother.

9-9 Fordham, I doubt it.

(01-28-2022 05:15 PM)Grandgreen Wrote:  

(01-28-2022 03:26 PM)tyler90wm Wrote:  

(01-28-2022 03:07 PM)Grandgreen Wrote:  New AAC average goes up to 123 if you delete UTSA at 331 providing a completely different look.

And new C-USA goes to 123 without calculating the last place team. Every conference would improve without their worst team

Yes, that would happen; but show me one conference were one team has the same negative impact on the ranking as UTSA currently has on the new AAC.

Asked and answered

The WCC average NET goes up 19 spots if you exclude 305 ranked Pacific.
The Big East average NET goes up 14 spots if you exclude 203 ranked Georgetown

but again....if it was just that simple to drop the lowest ranked NET team from a conference.

(01-28-2022 06:11 PM)topper1296 Wrote:  

(01-28-2022 05:15 PM)Grandgreen Wrote:  

(01-28-2022 03:26 PM)tyler90wm Wrote:  

(01-28-2022 03:07 PM)Grandgreen Wrote:  New AAC average goes up to 123 if you delete UTSA at 331 providing a completely different look.

And new C-USA goes to 123 without calculating the last place team. Every conference would improve without their worst team

Yes, that would happen; but show me one conference were one team has the same negative impact on the ranking as UTSA currently has on the new AAC.

Asked and answered

The WCC average NET goes up 19 spots if you exclude 305 ranked Pacific.
The Big East average NET goes up 14 spots if you exclude 203 ranked Georgetown

but again....if it was just that simple to drop the lowest ranked NET team from a conference.

Thanks, I didn't think it would occur, but was too lazy to do all those computations.

ODU and Marshall not having normal years but it helps the narrative. I don't think any odu fan expects Jones to be around next season. Time to bring in a new up and coming coach to breath some life back into the program.

NET rankings thru 2.4

https://stats.ncaa.org/selection_ranking...ties/22483

Current CUSA
UAB 45
North Texas 55
Louisiana Tech 97
Middle Tenn. 111
Fla. Atlantic 129
Western Ky. 135
UTEP 163
Rice 169
Charlotte 197
Old Dominion 199
Marshall 238
FIU 247
Southern Miss. 328
UTSA 335
Average 175

Future CUSA
New Mexico St. 79
Liberty 93
Louisiana Tech 97
Middle Tenn. 111
Jacksonville St. 128
Western Ky. 135
Sam Houston 160
UTEP 163
FIU 247
Average 135

Average comps based on future conference affiliations:
Big East 67
MWC 108
A-10 131
CUSA 135
MVC 136
AAC 139
SBC 196
MAC 205

Average NET variance between the current and future conference membership:
AAC drops <33> spots
CUSA rises 40 spots
SBC drops <3> spots

(02-05-2022 12:11 AM)topper1296 Wrote:  NET rankings thru 2.4

https://stats.ncaa.org/selection_ranking...ties/22483

Current CUSA
UAB 45
North Texas 55
Louisiana Tech 97
Middle Tenn. 111
Fla. Atlantic 129
Western Ky. 135
UTEP 163
Rice 169
Charlotte 197
Old Dominion 199
Marshall 238
FIU 247
Southern Miss. 328
UTSA 335
Average 175

Future CUSA
New Mexico St. 79
Liberty 93
Louisiana Tech 97
Middle Tenn. 111
Jacksonville St. 128
Western Ky. 135
Sam Houston 160
UTEP 163
FIU 247
Average 135

Average comps based on future conference affiliations:
Big East 67
MWC 108
A-10 131
CUSA 135
MVC 136
AAC 139
SBC 196
MAC 205

Average NET variance between the current and future conference membership:
AAC drops <33> spots
CUSA rises 40 spots
SBC drops <3> spots

I hate to admit it, but C-USA isn't going to be a two bid league this year. You can see it in these NET rankings. I guess the best we can hope for is that our conference tournament champ earns a higher seed than last year. Maybe get a 12 seed.

(02-05-2022 10:55 AM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(02-05-2022 12:11 AM)topper1296 Wrote:  NET rankings thru 2.4

https://stats.ncaa.org/selection_ranking...ties/22483

Current CUSA
UAB 45
North Texas 55
Louisiana Tech 97
Middle Tenn. 111
Fla. Atlantic 129
Western Ky. 135
UTEP 163
Rice 169
Charlotte 197
Old Dominion 199
Marshall 238
FIU 247
Southern Miss. 328
UTSA 335
Average 175

Future CUSA
New Mexico St. 79
Liberty 93
Louisiana Tech 97
Middle Tenn. 111
Jacksonville St. 128
Western Ky. 135
Sam Houston 160
UTEP 163
FIU 247
Average 135

Average comps based on future conference affiliations:
Big East 67
MWC 108
A-10 131
CUSA 135
MVC 136
AAC 139
SBC 196
MAC 205

Average NET variance between the current and future conference membership:
AAC drops <33> spots
CUSA rises 40 spots
SBC drops <3> spots

I hate to admit it, but C-USA isn't going to be a two bid league this year. You can see it in these NET rankings. I guess the best we can hope for is that our conference tournament champ earns a higher seed than last year. Maybe get a 12 seed.

What is the signature OOC win for CUSA this season?

(02-06-2022 01:46 PM)PredatorUTEP Wrote:  

(02-05-2022 10:55 AM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(02-05-2022 12:11 AM)topper1296 Wrote:  NET rankings thru 2.4

https://stats.ncaa.org/selection_ranking...ties/22483

Current CUSA
UAB 45
North Texas 55
Louisiana Tech 97
Middle Tenn. 111
Fla. Atlantic 129
Western Ky. 135
UTEP 163
Rice 169
Charlotte 197
Old Dominion 199
Marshall 238
FIU 247
Southern Miss. 328
UTSA 335
Average 175

Future CUSA
New Mexico St. 79
Liberty 93
Louisiana Tech 97
Middle Tenn. 111
Jacksonville St. 128
Western Ky. 135
Sam Houston 160
UTEP 163
FIU 247
Average 135

Average comps based on future conference affiliations:
Big East 67
MWC 108
A-10 131
CUSA 135
MVC 136
AAC 139
SBC 196
MAC 205

Average NET variance between the current and future conference membership:
AAC drops <33> spots
CUSA rises 40 spots
SBC drops <3> spots

I hate to admit it, but C-USA isn't going to be a two bid league this year. You can see it in these NET rankings. I guess the best we can hope for is that our conference tournament champ earns a higher seed than last year. Maybe get a 12 seed.

What is the signature OOC win for CUSA this season?

WKU over Ole Miss