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Staff retention
Silverfield says he will not decide until after the bowl. His call, but might not be the best choice for recruiting. I a coach will not be retained he should not be recruiting now.
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RE: Staff retention
(12-06-2021 06:03 PM)Keeper Wrote: Silverfield says he will not decide until after the bowl. His call, but might not be the best choice for recruiting. I a coach will not be retained he should not be recruiting now.
Who should he get rid of...
Special Teams Coordinator?
Defense improved...
I don't think the defense issue is a coaching\scheme problem...It is a talent problem.
Somebody needs to get some speed on that side of the ball...Heck both sides of the ball is Austin leaves.
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RE: Staff retention
(12-06-2021 06:11 PM)macgar32 Wrote: (12-06-2021 06:03 PM)Keeper Wrote: Silverfield says he will not decide until after the bowl. His call, but might not be the best choice for recruiting. I a coach will not be retained he should not be recruiting now.
Who should he get rid of...
Special Teams Coordinator?
Defense improved...
I don't think the defense issue is a coaching\scheme problem...It is a talent problem.
Somebody needs to get some speed on that side of the ball...Heck both sides of the ball is Austin leaves.
I know our recruiting has been historically good under Silverfield , it is not showing in Offensive line , running backs, receivers, D-line or Defensive backs —. We need a lot of positions filled with better players
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12-06-2021 06:15 PM |
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RE: Staff retention
Lol
“Our recruiting under Silverfield has been good except for OL, DL, RB, WR, and DB”
Is the football program a bigger mess right now or is it Penny’s 3 alarm fire?
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RE: Staff retention
“Our recruiting under Silverfield has been good except for . . . ”
This wouldn't be topic if Brady White had opted for another season, or "IF, IF" Grant Gunnell hadn't gotten injured and his little bit of experience had proven to have meant a lot.
I saw quite a few passes missed. I saw quite a few "locked onto a receiver". I saw quite a few forced passes. I'm not knocking Henigan, he was phenomenal, for a true freshman, but that true freshman-ism showed.
I thought the narrative going into this was that we had a great recruiting class. The true FR corner from Memphis turned out to win a starting spot, Greg Rubin. The true FR WR from Alabama played really well, Roc Taylor. The RB from Little Rock started out gang-busters, but fumbled like a freshman does, Brandon (drawing a blank). We had at least 2 JC signees on the D-line and I think LB that played really well. I mean, every year we complain about speed on the D, and it might be true a lot of the time. Obviously speed at DB has been an issue in the past. Not being experienced and reacting instantly can certainly make the D seem slow. The Houston game certainly was frustrating. I remember one time that a Houston ball carrier did not fall forward when he was tackled. Are we slow, and small, and weak, all across the D? I can't hardly think so.
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RE: Staff retention
(12-06-2021 07:56 PM)Herff Tiger Wrote: “Our recruiting under Silverfield has been good except for . . . ”
This wouldn't be topic if Brady White had opted for another season, or "IF, IF" Grant Gunnell hadn't gotten injured and his little bit of experience had proven to have meant a lot.
I saw quite a few passes missed. I saw quite a few "locked onto a receiver". I saw quite a few forced passes. I'm not knocking Henigan, he was phenomenal, for a true freshman, but that true freshman-ism showed.
I thought the narrative going into this was that we had a great recruiting class. The true FR corner from Memphis turned out to win a starting spot, Greg Rubin. The true FR WR from Alabama played really well, Roc Taylor. The RB from Little Rock started out gang-busters, but fumbled like a freshman does, Brandon (drawing a blank). We had at least 2 JC signees on the D-line and I think LB that played really well. I mean, every year we complain about speed on the D, and it might be true a lot of the time. Obviously speed at DB has been an issue in the past. Not being experienced and reacting instantly can certainly make the D seem slow. The Houston game certainly was frustrating. I remember one time that a Houston ball carrier did not fall forward when he was tackled. Are we slow, and small, and weak, all across the D? I can't hardly think so.
And losing 48 players for at least a game didn't have anything to do with our struggles this season either.
Doesn't count the players that went down for a series or two.
Yeah, his recruiting is so bad that we played 28 true/redshirt freshman. We were still able to redshirt some of our better recruits.
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RE: Staff retention
(12-07-2021 01:57 AM)MvETigers Wrote: (12-06-2021 07:56 PM)Herff Tiger Wrote: “Our recruiting under Silverfield has been good except for . . . ”
This wouldn't be topic if Brady White had opted for another season, or "IF, IF" Grant Gunnell hadn't gotten injured and his little bit of experience had proven to have meant a lot.
I saw quite a few passes missed. I saw quite a few "locked onto a receiver". I saw quite a few forced passes. I'm not knocking Henigan, he was phenomenal, for a true freshman, but that true freshman-ism showed.
I thought the narrative going into this was that we had a great recruiting class. The true FR corner from Memphis turned out to win a starting spot, Greg Rubin. The true FR WR from Alabama played really well, Roc Taylor. The RB from Little Rock started out gang-busters, but fumbled like a freshman does, Brandon (drawing a blank). We had at least 2 JC signees on the D-line and I think LB that played really well. I mean, every year we complain about speed on the D, and it might be true a lot of the time. Obviously speed at DB has been an issue in the past. Not being experienced and reacting instantly can certainly make the D seem slow. The Houston game certainly was frustrating. I remember one time that a Houston ball carrier did not fall forward when he was tackled. Are we slow, and small, and weak, all across the D? I can't hardly think so.
And losing 48 players for at least a game didn't have anything to do with our struggles this season either.
Doesn't count the players that went down for a series or two.
Yeah, his recruiting is so bad that we played 28 true/redshirt freshman. We were still able to redshirt some of our better recruits.
Yeah--I bet we were the only team in the nation that had injury's ---the teams that beat us must be thanking their lucky stars that they were all injury free when they played us
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RE: Staff retention
(12-06-2021 06:11 PM)macgar32 Wrote: (12-06-2021 06:03 PM)Keeper Wrote: Silverfield says he will not decide until after the bowl. His call, but might not be the best choice for recruiting. I a coach will not be retained he should not be recruiting now.
Who should he get rid of...
Special Teams Coordinator?
Defense improved...
I don't think the defense issue is a coaching\scheme problem...It is a talent problem.
Somebody needs to get some speed on that side of the ball...Heck both sides of the ball is Austin leaves.
it's a bit of a combination. Mac's philosophy is dont get beat deep...which outside of the ASU game once or twice (i think Rubin deflected a pass into the wr hand) and Miss State game they didnt give up anything deep...but they definitely gave up EVERYTHING underneath. allowing 3rd down conversions almost 50% of the time
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12-07-2021 09:14 AM |
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RE: Staff retention
I give most of last season’s defensive recruiting grade an “incomplete” at this time. There were several Recruits at all 3 levels of the defense rated high that I had hoped would get so run time with the 2nd unit this year but most appear to have been redshirted & a couple saw time on special teams.
I know our defense under McIntyre has started slow at the start of each season & progressed as it went on. Not sure if that is indicative of it being a little tough to learn & harder for 1st year guys to break through or not.
I would like to see them on the field before I draw my conclusions…….now if we get 3 years down the road & they still haven’t seen the field, I can draw a conclusion off of that too.
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12-07-2021 09:27 AM |
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RE: Staff retention
(12-07-2021 09:14 AM)tjwillis47 Wrote: (12-06-2021 06:11 PM)macgar32 Wrote: (12-06-2021 06:03 PM)Keeper Wrote: Silverfield says he will not decide until after the bowl. His call, but might not be the best choice for recruiting. I a coach will not be retained he should not be recruiting now.
Who should he get rid of...
Special Teams Coordinator?
Defense improved...
I don't think the defense issue is a coaching\scheme problem...It is a talent problem.
Somebody needs to get some speed on that side of the ball...Heck both sides of the ball is Austin leaves.
it's a bit of a combination. Mac's philosophy is dont get beat deep...which outside of the ASU game once or twice (i think Rubin deflected a pass into the wr hand) and Miss State game they didnt give up anything deep...but they definitely gave up EVERYTHING underneath. allowing 3rd down conversions almost 50% of the time
I agree that is how he called the games...
And when I saw how fast some receivers ran by our DBs I assumed he called it that way because we were not capable of playing man.
I know our front seven was very slow...Slow QBs were getting out of the pocket and getting yards on us.
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RE: Staff retention
(12-06-2021 06:15 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote: (12-06-2021 06:11 PM)macgar32 Wrote: (12-06-2021 06:03 PM)Keeper Wrote: Silverfield says he will not decide until after the bowl. His call, but might not be the best choice for recruiting. I a coach will not be retained he should not be recruiting now.
Who should he get rid of...
Special Teams Coordinator?
Defense improved...
I don't think the defense issue is a coaching\scheme problem...It is a talent problem.
Somebody needs to get some speed on that side of the ball...Heck both sides of the ball is Austin leaves.
I know our recruiting has been historically good under Silverfield , it is not showing in Offensive line , running backs, receivers, D-line or Defensive backs —. We need a lot of positions filled with better players
?? he's had 2 classes. all of his recruits are freshman, redshirt freshman or sophomores. what are you talking about? what kind of weird expectations do you have where freshmen and sophomores are 1st team all americans
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RE: Staff retention
With Houston, Cincy and UCF leaving, Silverfield will look better soon.
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12-07-2021 10:14 AM |
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RE: Staff retention
(12-07-2021 09:33 AM)tjwillis47 Wrote: (12-06-2021 06:15 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote: (12-06-2021 06:11 PM)macgar32 Wrote: (12-06-2021 06:03 PM)Keeper Wrote: Silverfield says he will not decide until after the bowl. His call, but might not be the best choice for recruiting. I a coach will not be retained he should not be recruiting now.
Who should he get rid of...
Special Teams Coordinator?
Defense improved...
I don't think the defense issue is a coaching\scheme problem...It is a talent problem.
Somebody needs to get some speed on that side of the ball...Heck both sides of the ball is Austin leaves.
I know our recruiting has been historically good under Silverfield , it is not showing in Offensive line , running backs, receivers, D-line or Defensive backs —. We need a lot of positions filled with better players
?? he's had 2 classes. all of his recruits are freshman, redshirt freshman or sophomores. what are you talking about? what kind of weird expectations do you have where freshmen and sophomores are 1st team all americans
Big difference between AA & the talent level of our D. And with consistent recruiting why are 1st yr guys playing so much anyway? Yep the D is setup to keep from getting beat deep, so we get beat over the middle & the receivers then run past the DBs. Catch 22, especially when we get little pressure on the QB (although that improved some the last 3-4 games).
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RE: Staff retention
(12-06-2021 06:11 PM)macgar32 Wrote: (12-06-2021 06:03 PM)Keeper Wrote: Silverfield says he will not decide until after the bowl. His call, but might not be the best choice for recruiting. I a coach will not be retained he should not be recruiting now.
Who should he get rid of...
Special Teams Coordinator?
Defense improved...
I don't think the defense issue is a coaching\scheme problem...It is a talent problem.
Somebody needs to get some speed on that side of the ball...Heck both sides of the ball is Austin leaves.
Eddie Leis will step into Calvin's role (assuming he doesn't leave).
He is just a small fraction slower than Austin.
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RE: Staff retention
(12-07-2021 11:15 AM)Atlanta Wrote: (12-07-2021 09:33 AM)tjwillis47 Wrote: (12-06-2021 06:15 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote: (12-06-2021 06:11 PM)macgar32 Wrote: (12-06-2021 06:03 PM)Keeper Wrote: Silverfield says he will not decide until after the bowl. His call, but might not be the best choice for recruiting. I a coach will not be retained he should not be recruiting now.
Who should he get rid of...
Special Teams Coordinator?
Defense improved...
I don't think the defense issue is a coaching\scheme problem...It is a talent problem.
Somebody needs to get some speed on that side of the ball...Heck both sides of the ball is Austin leaves.
I know our recruiting has been historically good under Silverfield , it is not showing in Offensive line , running backs, receivers, D-line or Defensive backs —. We need a lot of positions filled with better players
?? he's had 2 classes. all of his recruits are freshman, redshirt freshman or sophomores. what are you talking about? what kind of weird expectations do you have where freshmen and sophomores are 1st team all americans
Big difference between AA & the talent level of our D. And with consistent recruiting why are 1st yr guys playing so much anyway? Yep the D is setup to keep from getting beat deep, so we get beat over the middle & the receivers then run past the DBs. Catch 22, especially when we get little pressure on the QB (although that improved some the last 3-4 games).
do we need to have the injury discussion again? A lot of silverfields guys have played.
offense featured thomas, Gambill, Likes, Mathieu, henigan, marcayll Jones, roc taylor, cam wright, austin myers, joe doyle, devontae dobbs, eddie lewis and peter parrish
on defense camron jackson, davian mayo (ST mostly), sylvonta oliver, mo white, cincir evans, andrew jones played 3-4 games then RS, greg rubin, zy brockington, bryce edmondson (ST mostly), and grant barnett
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RE: Staff retention
(12-07-2021 02:35 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote: (12-06-2021 06:11 PM)macgar32 Wrote: (12-06-2021 06:03 PM)Keeper Wrote: Silverfield says he will not decide until after the bowl. His call, but might not be the best choice for recruiting. I a coach will not be retained he should not be recruiting now.
Who should he get rid of...
Special Teams Coordinator?
Defense improved...
I don't think the defense issue is a coaching\scheme problem...It is a talent problem.
Somebody needs to get some speed on that side of the ball...Heck both sides of the ball is Austin leaves.
Eddie Leis will step into Calvin's role (assuming he doesn't leave).
He is just a small fraction slower than Austin.
yep. WR has been a continual rotation of studs and Lewis seems like a dude who will step up for this team just like calvin did for coxie who stepped up after anthony miller
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RE: Staff retention
(12-07-2021 02:58 PM)tjwillis47 Wrote: (12-07-2021 02:35 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote: (12-06-2021 06:11 PM)macgar32 Wrote: (12-06-2021 06:03 PM)Keeper Wrote: Silverfield says he will not decide until after the bowl. His call, but might not be the best choice for recruiting. I a coach will not be retained he should not be recruiting now.
Who should he get rid of...
Special Teams Coordinator?
Defense improved...
I don't think the defense issue is a coaching\scheme problem...It is a talent problem.
Somebody needs to get some speed on that side of the ball...Heck both sides of the ball is Austin leaves.
Eddie Leis will step into Calvin's role (assuming he doesn't leave).
He is just a small fraction slower than Austin.
yep. WR has been a continual rotation of studs and Lewis seems like a dude who will step up for this team just like calvin did for coxie who stepped up after anthony miller
coxie ran a 4.8 40...
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RE: Staff retention
John's is very close with Seth and a lead on Tevin if he leaves it won't be because he was fired
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RE: Staff retention
(12-07-2021 03:30 PM)griffin Wrote: (12-07-2021 02:58 PM)tjwillis47 Wrote: (12-07-2021 02:35 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote: (12-06-2021 06:11 PM)macgar32 Wrote: (12-06-2021 06:03 PM)Keeper Wrote: Silverfield says he will not decide until after the bowl. His call, but might not be the best choice for recruiting. I a coach will not be retained he should not be recruiting now.
Who should he get rid of...
Special Teams Coordinator?
Defense improved...
I don't think the defense issue is a coaching\scheme problem...It is a talent problem.
Somebody needs to get some speed on that side of the ball...Heck both sides of the ball is Austin leaves.
Eddie Leis will step into Calvin's role (assuming he doesn't leave).
He is just a small fraction slower than Austin.
yep. WR has been a continual rotation of studs and Lewis seems like a dude who will step up for this team just like calvin did for coxie who stepped up after anthony miller
coxie ran a 4.8 40...
What does that have to do with anything?
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