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RE: Interesting and strange comments on the board regarding Penny
(12-06-2021 12:09 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(12-06-2021 09:34 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(12-06-2021 09:17 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(12-06-2021 09:03 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(12-05-2021 07:54 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  First, I'm not real sure who these vets are whom Penny is currently throwing under the bus. But frankly, I'm of another view. It's only reasonable that vets like DW, LQ & Nolley who carried the team down the stretch last season to a relatively successful ending after a bad start of shuffling 10-12 man rotations & have earned their vet status as key members of this team. Yet they came into this season with several high level but untested recruits having to earn their PT all over again - as if they didn't carry the team last season proving their worth in games. That seems backwards to all I've ever learned playing sports or life in general. It's the new guys, regardless of their high school rankings, who should be proving they belong & if there is to be mentoring, it should be the coaches developing their skills & giving them a limited role until they prove/earn a bigger role & demonstrate they know how to play team ball offense & defense. So far it is clear Duren is a better contributor than Cisse & we need that. But Bates, Minott, Timberlake & others need to earn their roles as they are productive.

That entitlement mentality you are describing sounds like exactly what the problem is... None of those players should have come into the season feeling entitled to the same or more minutes than they received last season. It does not matter what job you are doing in life, you always have someone willing and trying to outwork you and take your job. That is just a reality.

No it's not an entitlement issue. The coach already knows LQ, Nolley & DW can play. They were our consistent producers last season. Sure they have to continue to give the effort to keep their jobs but how they have performed in live game action on this team can't be ignored in favor of untested freshmen who also now are clearly showing they aren't ready to carry the load. New guys have to show they belong, so far they haven't except Duren who fills a needed role better than Cisse. These freshmen & other new comers, Bates particularly, have not shown much beyond their high school ranking yet they get minutes like they have earned them. That is causing the team problems.

All of those guys are getting minutes. Go look at their production. The upperclassman are not tearing it up this season and being benched despite that. Name me one coach or program in the country that is brining in a 5* player and not giving him significant minutes... If anybody on this team has a legit gripe it would be Tyler Harris.

Harris is a 5'7" walk-on who is a defensive liability & large volume shooter who can kill a lead when he's not on. In terms of production, Penny won't play his experienced guys together in long enough spurts for them to develop the feel & flow of the game. His constant rotation changes kill momentum. Duke, Gonzaga etc all have deep benches yet the starters get 28-32+ mins per game. That breeds stability & production - and minimizes dissention. Penny could learn a little from such big winners.

Harris was also the reason the St. Louis game was not close and basically single handedly brought us back against Ole Miss late... He has shortcomings (pun intended) but he also has a role on this team. His defensive issues have always been way overblown, for the most part he is a solid defender with his biggest issue being that bigger guards can shoot over him.

On the bold part, we agree on that.
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(12-06-2021 11:54 AM)gusrob Wrote:  I love you guys, but our fan base is so damn fickle. Stiffen that upper lip and let's go!

We’ve missed the tournament 8 years in a row
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RE: Interesting and strange comments on the board regarding Penny
(12-06-2021 08:09 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(12-05-2021 04:26 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(12-05-2021 03:48 PM)SpiderMan79x Wrote:  After the Tubby debacle, we had very few options. We held onto Pastner too long, and then the Tubby hire was perhaps the single worst basketball coaching hire ever at Memphis. That's what led to hiring Penny who wasn't ready for collegiate level coaching yet. We had few options after Tubby. Hell everyone was blasting us for canning the has-been fraud of a HOF coach. That's where this all can be traced back to IMO. Since the day Cal left, the university has made every wrong coaching hire possible when it come to men's basketball.

We are literally DePaul without a championship. I've really just recently started to accept that the glory is probably never coming back, it's just not as far as I can imagine. Maybe Penny gets it all worked out, but you will have to pardon me if I'm quickly losing faith in that outcome.

Pastner--is that the guy that took us to multiple tournaments----won a global championship--and took GT to the trny last year --that guy ?


I am not in favor of most bannings, but if you are going to continue to post this in EVERY SINGLE THREAD maybe you should be banned or at least threatened with a ban until it stops.

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RE: Interesting and strange comments on the board regarding Penny
(12-06-2021 08:44 AM)hartlessnhere Wrote:  
(12-05-2021 01:06 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  I've not given up on the coach like so many here have.

I was also against his hire from the beginning thinking he would not devote enough time to coaching the team.

However this board overwhelmingly was for Penny's hiring.

Probably the same ones calling for his head now.

A wise man once said, "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do."


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Penny has led the Tigers to a 63-32 record, three-straight 20-win seasons, and the 2021 National Invitation Tournament championship. He was so close to beating Houston's final four team. Memphis has a ton of coaching experience on their bench. Yet, a number of fans are ready to quit his leadership.

The truth is that a basketball team can NOT be great at everything. There just isn't enough time in the day. There's a common saying in coaching... "The coach who emphasizes everything teaches nothing!"

The best coaches know they can only be great at a few things and they must develop an "identity" for their team. Their experiences have indicated that a basketball team can ONLY be great at 3 things! Duke is great at man-to-man defense, offensive transition, and communication. Michael Jordan's North Carolina team was great at scoring, fast breaks, and pressure defense. I think Penny's vision is pressure defense, fast breaks, rebounding, and 3 point shooting.

The problem of jealousy can be fixed but fixing the fans I just don't know.

20 wins are just like bowl games --not what they used to be--neither have the same bragging rights
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(12-06-2021 10:04 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(12-05-2021 04:26 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(12-05-2021 03:48 PM)SpiderMan79x Wrote:  After the Tubby debacle, we had very few options. We held onto Pastner too long, and then the Tubby hire was perhaps the single worst basketball coaching hire ever at Memphis. That's what led to hiring Penny who wasn't ready for collegiate level coaching yet. We had few options after Tubby. Hell everyone was blasting us for canning the has-been fraud of a HOF coach. That's where this all can be traced back to IMO. Since the day Cal left, the university has made every wrong coaching hire possible when it come to men's basketball.

We are literally DePaul without a championship. I've really just recently started to accept that the glory is probably never coming back, it's just not as far as I can imagine. Maybe Penny gets it all worked out, but you will have to pardon me if I'm quickly losing faith in that outcome.

Pastner--is that the guy that took us from a Ferrari to a Ford Pinto in 7 years. The guy who ran off an entire recruiting class including his leading scorer and rebounder. Who insisted on playing 4 small guards against Virginia and underachieved every season he was here --that guy ?

Fify

No he's the guy that took over a weakened roster---and a program with LOOMING SANCTIONS --and managed to hold the program together

As for losing players --you can't be serious can you ---Boggie/Cisse/Jeffries/Baugh
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(12-06-2021 05:59 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(12-06-2021 10:04 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(12-05-2021 04:26 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(12-05-2021 03:48 PM)SpiderMan79x Wrote:  After the Tubby debacle, we had very few options. We held onto Pastner too long, and then the Tubby hire was perhaps the single worst basketball coaching hire ever at Memphis. That's what led to hiring Penny who wasn't ready for collegiate level coaching yet. We had few options after Tubby. Hell everyone was blasting us for canning the has-been fraud of a HOF coach. That's where this all can be traced back to IMO. Since the day Cal left, the university has made every wrong coaching hire possible when it come to men's basketball.

We are literally DePaul without a championship. I've really just recently started to accept that the glory is probably never coming back, it's just not as far as I can imagine. Maybe Penny gets it all worked out, but you will have to pardon me if I'm quickly losing faith in that outcome.

Pastner--is that the guy that took us from a Ferrari to a Ford Pinto in 7 years. The guy who ran off an entire recruiting class including his leading scorer and rebounder. Who insisted on playing 4 small guards against Virginia and underachieved every season he was here --that guy ?

Fify

No he's the guy that took over a weakened roster---and a program with LOOMING SANCTIONS --and managed to hold the program together

As for losing players --you can't be serious can you ---Boggie/Cisse/Jeffries/Baugh

Just like you said 20 wins does not have the same luster that it used to, losing 3 or 4 players in an offseason is not the same terrible happening it used to be.
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RE: Interesting and strange comments on the board regarding Penny
(12-06-2021 06:47 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(12-06-2021 05:59 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(12-06-2021 10:04 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(12-05-2021 04:26 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(12-05-2021 03:48 PM)SpiderMan79x Wrote:  After the Tubby debacle, we had very few options. We held onto Pastner too long, and then the Tubby hire was perhaps the single worst basketball coaching hire ever at Memphis. That's what led to hiring Penny who wasn't ready for collegiate level coaching yet. We had few options after Tubby. Hell everyone was blasting us for canning the has-been fraud of a HOF coach. That's where this all can be traced back to IMO. Since the day Cal left, the university has made every wrong coaching hire possible when it come to men's basketball.

We are literally DePaul without a championship. I've really just recently started to accept that the glory is probably never coming back, it's just not as far as I can imagine. Maybe Penny gets it all worked out, but you will have to pardon me if I'm quickly losing faith in that outcome.

Pastner--is that the guy that took us from a Ferrari to a Ford Pinto in 7 years. The guy who ran off an entire recruiting class including his leading scorer and rebounder. Who insisted on playing 4 small guards against Virginia and underachieved every season he was here --that guy ?

Fify

No he's the guy that took over a weakened roster---and a program with LOOMING SANCTIONS --and managed to hold the program together

As for losing players --you can't be serious can you ---Boggie/Cisse/Jeffries/Baugh

Just like you said 20 wins does not have the same luster that it used to, losing 3 or 4 players in an offseason is not the same terrible happening it used to be.

I agree
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(12-06-2021 01:16 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  
(12-06-2021 11:27 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  All I know is we replaced a would be senior, two juniors and a few sophomores (production varied but that’s a lot of experience) with one transfer, two HS seniors and an assortment of other bug-eyed freshmen. We have new coaches trying to figure out their own roles.

That’s a lot of change and it’s taking longer to become the solid cohesive team that many expect. But we’re barely into December with the bulk of season ahead of us and we’re only going to get better. It’s going to be fun to watch this group grow up. They’ll likely look like a different team over the next couple of months. So it goes…

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(12-06-2021 05:46 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(12-06-2021 08:09 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(12-05-2021 04:26 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(12-05-2021 03:48 PM)SpiderMan79x Wrote:  After the Tubby debacle, we had very few options. We held onto Pastner too long, and then the Tubby hire was perhaps the single worst basketball coaching hire ever at Memphis. That's what led to hiring Penny who wasn't ready for collegiate level coaching yet. We had few options after Tubby. Hell everyone was blasting us for canning the has-been fraud of a HOF coach. That's where this all can be traced back to IMO. Since the day Cal left, the university has made every wrong coaching hire possible when it come to men's basketball.

We are literally DePaul without a championship. I've really just recently started to accept that the glory is probably never coming back, it's just not as far as I can imagine. Maybe Penny gets it all worked out, but you will have to pardon me if I'm quickly losing faith in that outcome.

Pastner--is that the guy that took us to multiple tournaments----won a global championship--and took GT to the trny last year --that guy ?


I am not in favor of most bannings, but if you are going to continue to post this in EVERY SINGLE THREAD maybe you should be banned or at least threatened with a ban until it stops.

MATTHEW 7-5---put me on ignore


If you are gonna use scripture at least use it properly.

When you show where I copy and paste the extract same line and post it in every single thread, then you can call me a hypocrite.

I don't do that, YOU ARE doing that.
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(12-06-2021 07:07 AM)TIGERBUDDY Wrote:  
(12-05-2021 01:06 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  I've not given up on the coach like so many here have.

I was also against his hire from the beginning thinking he would not devote enough time to coaching the team.

However this board overwhelmingly was for Penny's hiring.

Probably the same ones calling for his head now.

A wise man once said, "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do."


Go Tigers
07-coffee307-coffee3 It seems this board just likes to *****. If Penny does not have good recruiting classes then we would ***** about that. If Penny has great recruiting classes then we ***** that they underperform. If players leave then we ***** that Penny probably is to blame. If our 5 star and 4 star players get too much playing time according to the board then we ***** that the others are getting cheated out of minutes played. lf the other players play too many minutes then we ***** that the 4 and 5 star players should be playing more.
The saying goes that you can please some of the people some of the time but that you can't please all of the people all of the time. This board should be renamed the BITCHING BOARD. I realize this place helps our posters release some of our frustrations but we have an unhealthy number of frustrated posters that I feel end up having detrimental effects on our program.

Bingo! Well said!!
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(12-06-2021 09:04 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(12-06-2021 05:46 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(12-06-2021 08:09 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(12-05-2021 04:26 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(12-05-2021 03:48 PM)SpiderMan79x Wrote:  After the Tubby debacle, we had very few options. We held onto Pastner too long, and then the Tubby hire was perhaps the single worst basketball coaching hire ever at Memphis. That's what led to hiring Penny who wasn't ready for collegiate level coaching yet. We had few options after Tubby. Hell everyone was blasting us for canning the has-been fraud of a HOF coach. That's where this all can be traced back to IMO. Since the day Cal left, the university has made every wrong coaching hire possible when it come to men's basketball.

We are literally DePaul without a championship. I've really just recently started to accept that the glory is probably never coming back, it's just not as far as I can imagine. Maybe Penny gets it all worked out, but you will have to pardon me if I'm quickly losing faith in that outcome.

Pastner--is that the guy that took us to multiple tournaments----won a global championship--and took GT to the trny last year --that guy ?


I am not in favor of most bannings, but if you are going to continue to post this in EVERY SINGLE THREAD maybe you should be banned or at least threatened with a ban until it stops.

MATTHEW 7-5---put me on ignore


If you are gonna use scripture at least use it properly.

When you show where I copy and paste the extract same line and post it in every single thread, then you can call me a hypocrite.

I don't do that, YOU ARE doing that.

Eric you are destroying your testimony ---for the last few days you have been spewing venom on fellow posters--even the MODS told you to tone it down/dial it back----you attacked me/my post---I said get the mote out of your own eye..do you think you are above reproach ..being a fellow CHRISTIAN I have always enjoyed your posts--but lately you seem full of anger/rage/vile--people even mocking/doubting your salvation

If you don't like my posts --just put me on ignore ---why talk about bans---aren't you above that (first amendment).

I know you didn't do it---but I don't get why people whine and send PM's to mods about peoples posts ---this is a fan message board --supposed to be fun---where people can post opinions.

If someone don't like a poster---why act like a child and complain to a mod--why try to hurt the poster by getting them banned --it's very simple just put the poster on ignore.

Keep looking up brother and fighting the good fight
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(12-06-2021 09:30 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  Eric you are destroying your testimony ---for the last few days you have been spewing venom on fellow posters--even the MODS told you to tone it down/dial it back----you attacked me/my post---I said get the mote out of your own eye..do you think you are above reproach ..being a fellow CHRISTIAN I have always enjoyed your posts--but lately you seem full of anger/rage/vile--people even mocking/doubting your salvation

If you don't like my posts --just put me on ignore ---why talk about bans---aren't you above that (first amendment).

I know you didn't do it---but I don't get why people whine and send PM's to mods about peoples posts ---this is a fan message board --supposed to be fun---where people can post opinions.

If someone don't like a poster---why act like a child and complain to a mod--why try to hurt the poster by getting them banned --it's very simple just put the poster on ignore.

Keep looking up brother and fighting the good fight



Oh good grief what a drama queen post this is.

The board is full of angry people spewing anger over the tigers right now, I am one of the few here telling everyone to calm down and stop getting so emotional. I am one of the few people who are NOT angry.

I am not going to engage in this cat fight routine with you or anyone.

I did not attack you or call you names or act remotely unchristian in my comment about you, I said IF you are going to keep copy and pasting the same stupid comment about Pastner in every thread maybe something should be done. Its annoying, no one likes it and its done to flame people, not to further a discussion. So spare me the fake innocent routine, its obvious that is NOT your intention when continually posting that.
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(12-06-2021 09:55 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(12-06-2021 09:30 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  Eric you are destroying your testimony ---for the last few days you have been spewing venom on fellow posters--even the MODS told you to tone it down/dial it back----you attacked me/my post---I said get the mote out of your own eye..do you think you are above reproach ..being a fellow CHRISTIAN I have always enjoyed your posts--but lately you seem full of anger/rage/vile--people even mocking/doubting your salvation

If you don't like my posts --just put me on ignore ---why talk about bans---aren't you above that (first amendment).

I know you didn't do it---but I don't get why people whine and send PM's to mods about peoples posts ---this is a fan message board --supposed to be fun---where people can post opinions.

If someone don't like a poster---why act like a child and complain to a mod--why try to hurt the poster by getting them banned --it's very simple just put the poster on ignore.

Keep looking up brother and fighting the good fight



Oh good grief what a drama queen post this is.

The board is full of angry people spewing anger over the tigers right now, I am one of the few here telling everyone to calm down and stop getting so emotional. I am one of the few people who are NOT angry.

I am not going to engage in this cat fight routine with you or anyone.

I did not attack you or call you names or act remotely unchristian in my comment about you, I said IF you are going to keep copy and pasting the same stupid comment about Pastner in every thread maybe something should be done. Its annoying, no one likes it and its done to flame people, not to further a discussion. So spare me the fake innocent routine, its obvious that is NOT your intention when continually posting that.

Me drama LOL
yeah I am the drama one LOL--dude like the mod said--you need to relax-------its obvious your opinions are all that matters---but remember when you point a finger at someone--you have 3 more pointing back at you

You say my posts are to flame people--you couldn't be more wrong--and yet you set yourself up as judge --(Matthew 7)-

Like I said --instead of complaining about my posts---just put me on ignore and get off your high horse
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Never understood why we brought Tyler Harris back. I feel like it was best to move on from him. We have 7 players from Memphis on our roster. In 2007-08, we only had two players. There's too many personalities and egos on this team. Penny, even has one of the biggest ego when it comes to college basketball.

At the end of the day, I still want to see Penny yell at a player like Cal and Coach K does. I want to see him yell at an official. I want to see him get a technical. I want to see him throw the clipboard onto the ground. I want to see passionate. I know he cares about the program, but good basketball coaches does whatever it takes to win at Ole Miss after dropping two straight. That was a huge game for us, and we fell short. Calling out your team at the postgame media is not a good look. Now, everybody knows there's some turnmoil inside the locker room. At the end of the day, I want to see Penny actually care (not saying he doesn't). That's all. However, I guarantee you the one player that is feeling the most pressure is Lester. I know he's been frustrated with his career here at Memphis.
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(12-06-2021 10:24 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(12-06-2021 09:55 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(12-06-2021 09:30 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  Eric you are destroying your testimony ---for the last few days you have been spewing venom on fellow posters--even the MODS told you to tone it down/dial it back----you attacked me/my post---I said get the mote out of your own eye..do you think you are above reproach ..being a fellow CHRISTIAN I have always enjoyed your posts--but lately you seem full of anger/rage/vile--people even mocking/doubting your salvation

If you don't like my posts --just put me on ignore ---why talk about bans---aren't you above that (first amendment).

I know you didn't do it---but I don't get why people whine and send PM's to mods about peoples posts ---this is a fan message board --supposed to be fun---where people can post opinions.

If someone don't like a poster---why act like a child and complain to a mod--why try to hurt the poster by getting them banned --it's very simple just put the poster on ignore.

Keep looking up brother and fighting the good fight



Oh good grief what a drama queen post this is.

The board is full of angry people spewing anger over the tigers right now, I am one of the few here telling everyone to calm down and stop getting so emotional. I am one of the few people who are NOT angry.

I am not going to engage in this cat fight routine with you or anyone.

I did not attack you or call you names or act remotely unchristian in my comment about you, I said IF you are going to keep copy and pasting the same stupid comment about Pastner in every thread maybe something should be done. Its annoying, no one likes it and its done to flame people, not to further a discussion. So spare me the fake innocent routine, its obvious that is NOT your intention when continually posting that.

Me drama LOL
yeah I am the drama one LOL--dude like the mod said--you need to relax-------its obvious your opinions are all that matters---but remember when you point a finger at someone--you have 3 more pointing back at you

You say my posts are to flame people--you couldn't be more wrong--and yet you set yourself up as judge --(Matthew 7)-

Like I said --instead of complaining about my posts---just put me on ignore and get off your high horse



We'll just have to disagree.
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(12-06-2021 07:34 AM)Blackman Wrote:  
(12-06-2021 07:07 AM)TIGERBUDDY Wrote:  
(12-05-2021 01:06 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  I've not given up on the coach like so many here have.

I was also against his hire from the beginning thinking he would not devote enough time to coaching the team.

However this board overwhelmingly was for Penny's hiring.

Probably the same ones calling for his head now.

A wise man once said, "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do."


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07-coffee307-coffee3 It seems this board just likes to *****. If Penny does not have good recruiting classes then we would ***** about that. If Penny has great recruiting classes then we ***** that they underperform. If players leave then we ***** that Penny probably is to blame. If our 5 star and 4 star players get too much playing time according to the board then we ***** that the others are getting cheated out of minutes played. lf the other players play too many minutes then we ***** that the 4 and 5 star players should be playing more.
The saying goes that you can please some of the people some of the time but that you can't please all of the people all of the time. This board should be renamed the BITCHING BOARD. I realize this place helps our posters release some of our frustrations but we have an unhealthy number of frustrated posters that I feel end up having detrimental effects on our program.

Thank you!!!!

This is why I often stay away from this board...the constant bitching.

Every loss is a meltdown.

The same people bitching about Tubby not getting Alo and Tyler are now bitching that we play Alo and Tyler.

I believe Penny will get it turned around. He turned it around last year and they played better as the season went on.

I agree. However, I think we have enough losses by the time he does that we will, once again, find ourselves needing to win the AAC tourney to get in the big dance.
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(12-06-2021 10:54 PM)GoDownSwinging Wrote:  Never understood why we brought Tyler Harris back. I feel like it was best to move on from him. We have 7 players from Memphis on our roster. In 2007-08, we only had two players. There's too many personalities and egos on this team. Penny, even has one of the biggest ego when it comes to college basketball.

At the end of the day, I still want to see Penny yell at a player like Cal and Coach K does. I want to see him yell at an official. I want to see him get a technical. I want to see him throw the clipboard onto the ground. I want to see passionate. I know he cares about the program, but good basketball coaches does whatever it takes to win at Ole Miss after dropping two straight. That was a huge game for us, and we fell short. Calling out your team at the postgame media is not a good look. Now, everybody knows there's some turnmoil inside the locker room. At the end of the day, I want to see Penny actually care (not saying he doesn't). That's all. However, I guarantee you the one player that is feeling the most pressure is Lester. I know he's been frustrated with his career here at Memphis.

I would like to see a little more emotion from Penny, as well. There are very few coaches who are effective at developing a championship-caliber program without displaying a lot of emotion - Mark Few is the only one that comes to mind at the moment. However, Few must run very effective practices and is, no doubt, an expert at game-time adjustments. Of course, he has a lot of years of coaching experience to draw from - something Penny does not.
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(12-06-2021 05:59 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(12-06-2021 10:04 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(12-05-2021 04:26 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(12-05-2021 03:48 PM)SpiderMan79x Wrote:  After the Tubby debacle, we had very few options. We held onto Pastner too long, and then the Tubby hire was perhaps the single worst basketball coaching hire ever at Memphis. That's what led to hiring Penny who wasn't ready for collegiate level coaching yet. We had few options after Tubby. Hell everyone was blasting us for canning the has-been fraud of a HOF coach. That's where this all can be traced back to IMO. Since the day Cal left, the university has made every wrong coaching hire possible when it come to men's basketball.

We are literally DePaul without a championship. I've really just recently started to accept that the glory is probably never coming back, it's just not as far as I can imagine. Maybe Penny gets it all worked out, but you will have to pardon me if I'm quickly losing faith in that outcome.

Pastner--is that the guy that took us from a Ferrari to a Ford Pinto in 7 years. The guy who ran off an entire recruiting class including his leading scorer and rebounder. Who insisted on playing 4 small guards against Virginia and underachieved every season he was here --that guy ?

Fify

No he's the guy that took over a weakened roster---and a program with LOOMING SANCTIONS --and managed to hold the program together

As for losing players --you can't be serious can you ---Boggie/Cisse/Jeffries/Baugh

WHO? Isn’t that what you called Black, Nichols and King ?
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(12-07-2021 10:27 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(12-06-2021 05:59 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(12-06-2021 10:04 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(12-05-2021 04:26 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(12-05-2021 03:48 PM)SpiderMan79x Wrote:  After the Tubby debacle, we had very few options. We held onto Pastner too long, and then the Tubby hire was perhaps the single worst basketball coaching hire ever at Memphis. That's what led to hiring Penny who wasn't ready for collegiate level coaching yet. We had few options after Tubby. Hell everyone was blasting us for canning the has-been fraud of a HOF coach. That's where this all can be traced back to IMO. Since the day Cal left, the university has made every wrong coaching hire possible when it come to men's basketball.

We are literally DePaul without a championship. I've really just recently started to accept that the glory is probably never coming back, it's just not as far as I can imagine. Maybe Penny gets it all worked out, but you will have to pardon me if I'm quickly losing faith in that outcome.

Pastner--is that the guy that took us from a Ferrari to a Ford Pinto in 7 years. The guy who ran off an entire recruiting class including his leading scorer and rebounder. Who insisted on playing 4 small guards against Virginia and underachieved every season he was here --that guy ?

Fify

No he's the guy that took over a weakened roster---and a program with LOOMING SANCTIONS --and managed to hold the program together

As for losing players --you can't be serious can you ---Boggie/Cisse/Jeffries/Baugh

WHO? Isn’t that what you called Black, Nichols and King ?

LOL---very good ----and you are correct ---the 4 of them are now WHO'S
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