In a pair of tweets overnight and into this morning, Sam Houston head football coach KC Keeler denied rumors about returning to Delaware.

Won a national title in 2003 in Newark, made a pair more of appearances with runner-up finishes in 2007 and 2010 in the title game. Was run off after going 5-6 in 2012. Career mark of 86-52 at Delaware.

A lot of this perception probably stems from the Sam Houston move to FBS. If Sam Houston were staying FCS, I do not think there's anyway imaginable that he would go back to Delaware as he has all the tools to win and compete for a national championship on a regular basis in Huntsville (just based on recruiting alone) that he did not have in Delaware.

Delaware media latched on to the story; this is behind a paywall so not sure what it says

(12-03-2021 10:34 AM)TexasTerror Wrote:  In a pair of tweets overnight and into this morning, Sam Houston head football coach KC Keeler denied rumors about returning to Delaware.

Won a national title in 2003 in Newark, made a pair more of appearances with runner-up finishes in 2007 and 2010 in the title game. Was run off after going 5-6 in 2012. Career mark of 86-52 at Delaware.

A lot of this perception probably stems from the Sam Houston move to FBS. If Sam Houston were staying FCS, I do not think there's anyway imaginable that he would go back to Delaware as he has all the tools to win and compete for a national championship on a regular basis in Huntsville (just based on recruiting alone) that he did not have in Delaware.

Something about this tweet from Keeler seems off to me. He said he wouldn't "interview" for the Delaware job. But if he's who they want, he wouldn't have to interview. It seems like he is just saying the right things to try to keep focus on the playoff run and not lose the locker room, while still leaving the door open to leave.

This wouldn't even be an issue if we didn't make the dumb stupid idiotic move to the FBS.

(12-03-2021 12:58 PM)SammyH Wrote:  This wouldn't even be an issue if we didn't make the dumb stupid idiotic move to the FBS.

Not so much the move to FBS as the extreme geographical challenge of the conference. Imagine being in El Paso on Tuesday and South Florida on Friday. Talk about meeting yourself coming and going at the airport. SHSU athletic budget is going to be strained to say the least.

(12-03-2021 01:24 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Not so much the move to FBS as the extreme geographical challenge of the conference. Imagine being in El Paso on Tuesday and South Florida on Friday. Talk about meeting yourself coming and going at the airport. SHSU athletic budget is going to be strained to say the least.

You got to look at this two ways...

1) SammyH is correct that the KC Keeler rumors are all starting because of the institution's plans to go FBS. KC has been a bit outspoken about FBS (and playing in bowl games) for months now, even while knowing his institution was exploring FBS at some point. He's being a "team player" right now knowing this is the institution's goals and certainly the recruiting is looking pretty solid right now, but yes.

2) Regarding him and the geographical challenge - that does not matter for a sport like football where you play on the weekend largely and of course, one opponent a week. He or whomever is the coach is still in Huntsville. Draw a 3-hour circle around Huntsville and you get DFW, East Texas, Golden Triangle and Houston amongst other areas. You can win with the talent in that circle. I do feel the travel situation as it relates to costs is overstated somewhat. I've looked at budgets of similar lowest of low level FBS schools. Doesn't concern me as much as some are making out.

(12-03-2021 01:24 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 12:58 PM)SammyH Wrote:  This wouldn't even be an issue if we didn't make the dumb stupid idiotic move to the FBS.

Not so much the move to FBS as the extreme geographical challenge of the conference. Imagine being in El Paso on Tuesday and South Florida on Friday. Talk about meeting yourself coming and going at the airport. SHSU athletic budget is going to be strained to say the least.

Huh?? No, Keeler potentially leaving is due to the FBS move not travel costs lol. Besides, are the trips in CUSA that much worse than the WAC?

Huntsville to Liberty 1216 miles
Huntsville to FIU 1230 miles
Huntsville to WKU 803 miles
Huntsville to MTSU 770 miles

Huntsville to Seattle 2273 miles
Huntsville to CBU 1473 miles
Huntsville to UVU 1372 miles
Huntsville to Dixie Poly Techinic 1341 miles

(12-03-2021 01:24 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 12:58 PM)SammyH Wrote:  This wouldn't even be an issue if we didn't make the dumb stupid idiotic move to the FBS.

Not so much the move to FBS as the extreme geographical challenge of the conference. Imagine being in El Paso on Tuesday and South Florida on Friday. Talk about meeting yourself coming and going at the airport. SHSU athletic budget is going to be strained to say the least.

In what sport would Conference USA send a team to El Paso on Tuesday, then Miami on Friday of the same week? A bit extreme don’t you think?

(12-03-2021 01:55 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 01:24 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 12:58 PM)SammyH Wrote:  This wouldn't even be an issue if we didn't make the dumb stupid idiotic move to the FBS.

Not so much the move to FBS as the extreme geographical challenge of the conference. Imagine being in El Paso on Tuesday and South Florida on Friday. Talk about meeting yourself coming and going at the airport. SHSU athletic budget is going to be strained to say the least.

In what sport would Conference USA send a team to El Paso on Tuesday, then Miami on Friday of the same week? A bit extreme don’t you think?

Women's soccer or volleyball. Or If UTEP had it, baseball (midweek game or something)

(12-03-2021 02:28 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 01:55 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 01:24 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 12:58 PM)SammyH Wrote:  This wouldn't even be an issue if we didn't make the dumb stupid idiotic move to the FBS.

Not so much the move to FBS as the extreme geographical challenge of the conference. Imagine being in El Paso on Tuesday and South Florida on Friday. Talk about meeting yourself coming and going at the airport. SHSU athletic budget is going to be strained to say the least.

In what sport would Conference USA send a team to El Paso on Tuesday, then Miami on Friday of the same week? A bit extreme don’t you think?

Women's soccer or volleyball. Or If UTEP had it, baseball (midweek game or something)

His point was the scheduling won’t work out that way. At least not on the same week. UTEP and NMSU will be travel partners. So if you flew to El Paso to face UTEP you’d then play NMSU that week as well.

(12-03-2021 01:36 PM)TexasTerror Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 01:24 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Not so much the move to FBS as the extreme geographical challenge of the conference. Imagine being in El Paso on Tuesday and South Florida on Friday. Talk about meeting yourself coming and going at the airport. SHSU athletic budget is going to be strained to say the least.

You got to look at this two ways...

1) SammyH is correct that the KC Keeler rumors are all starting because of the institution's plans to go FBS. KC has been a bit outspoken about FBS (and playing in bowl games) for months now, even while knowing his institution was exploring FBS at some point. He's being a "team player" right now knowing this is the institution's goals and certainly the recruiting is looking pretty solid right now, but yes.

2) Regarding him and the geographical challenge - that does not matter for a sport like football where you play on the weekend largely and of course, one opponent a week. He or whomever is the coach is still in Huntsville. Draw a 3-hour circle around Huntsville and you get DFW, East Texas, Golden Triangle and Houston amongst other areas. You can win with the talent in that circle. I do feel the travel situation as it relates to costs is overstated somewhat. I've looked at budgets of similar lowest of low level FBS schools. Doesn't concern me as much as some are making out.

Unfortunately, there is no College Athletic Department that just sponsors football.

(12-03-2021 01:44 PM)SammyH Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 01:24 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 12:58 PM)SammyH Wrote:  This wouldn't even be an issue if we didn't make the dumb stupid idiotic move to the FBS.

Not so much the move to FBS as the extreme geographical challenge of the conference. Imagine being in El Paso on Tuesday and South Florida on Friday. Talk about meeting yourself coming and going at the airport. SHSU athletic budget is going to be strained to say the least.

Huh?? No, Keeler potentially leaving is due to the FBS move not travel costs lol. Besides, are the trips in CUSA that much worse than the WAC?

Huntsville to Liberty 1216 miles
Huntsville to FIU 1230 miles
Huntsville to WKU 803 miles
Huntsville to MTSU 770 miles

Huntsville to Seattle 2273 miles
Huntsville to CBU 1473 miles
Huntsville to UVU 1372 miles
Huntsville to Dixie Poly Techinic 1341 miles

Yes, but there is a Texas Division in the WAC to trim travel costs. You conveniently left out those schools. There is no Texas division in CUSA. Enjoy the friendly skies and watch those travel costs soar along with the sky travel.

(12-03-2021 04:09 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 01:44 PM)SammyH Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 01:24 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 12:58 PM)SammyH Wrote:  This wouldn't even be an issue if we didn't make the dumb stupid idiotic move to the FBS.

Not so much the move to FBS as the extreme geographical challenge of the conference. Imagine being in El Paso on Tuesday and South Florida on Friday. Talk about meeting yourself coming and going at the airport. SHSU athletic budget is going to be strained to say the least.

Huh?? No, Keeler potentially leaving is due to the FBS move not travel costs lol. Besides, are the trips in CUSA that much worse than the WAC?

Huntsville to Liberty 1216 miles
Huntsville to FIU 1230 miles
Huntsville to WKU 803 miles
Huntsville to MTSU 770 miles

Huntsville to Seattle 2273 miles
Huntsville to CBU 1473 miles
Huntsville to UVU 1372 miles
Huntsville to Dixie Poly Techinic 1341 miles

Yes, but there is a Texas Division in the WAC to trim travel costs. You conveniently left out those schools. There is no Texas division in CUSA. Enjoy the friendly skies and watch those travel costs soar along with the sky travel.

Agreed. No way to dress up the sh*t sandwich that CUSA is going to be for travel.

I wouldn’t be thrilled about moving the program to C-USA either. WAC membership for the football meant 1 OOC trip to Utah a year and the rest of the conference schedule would be instate. They’d also be perennial national title contenders. C-USA is going to be a lot of flights and a lot of losing, at least at first.

Maybe SHSU needs a new coach anyway to lead them into FBS. Especially if he is having second thoughts about leaving FCS.

(12-03-2021 06:50 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  Maybe SHSU needs a new coach anyway to lead them into FBS. Especially if he is having second thoughts about leaving FCS.

Hell no. Everyone is having second thoughts about leaving FCS except our moronic AD, Bobbly Wiwwiams. Keeler is the man for the job.

(12-03-2021 06:50 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  Maybe SHSU needs a new coach anyway to lead them into FBS. Especially if he is having second thoughts about leaving FCS.

Of course SHSU needs a new old retread HC for FBS like Petrino. Hang out with the Volleyball players until a better FBS job is offered.

(12-03-2021 01:44 PM)SammyH Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 01:24 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 12:58 PM)SammyH Wrote:  This wouldn't even be an issue if we didn't make the dumb stupid idiotic move to the FBS.

Not so much the move to FBS as the extreme geographical challenge of the conference. Imagine being in El Paso on Tuesday and South Florida on Friday. Talk about meeting yourself coming and going at the airport. SHSU athletic budget is going to be strained to say the least.

Huh?? No, Keeler potentially leaving is due to the FBS move not travel costs lol. Besides, are the trips in CUSA that much worse than the WAC?

Huntsville to Liberty 1216 miles
Huntsville to FIU 1230 miles
Huntsville to WKU 803 miles
Huntsville to MTSU 770 miles

Huntsville to Seattle 2273 miles
Huntsville to CBU 1473 miles
Huntsville to UVU 1372 miles
Huntsville to Dixie Poly Techinic 1341 miles

Correct me if I'm being ignorant, but isn't flying a football team hugely more expensive than flying a basketball team? Because you wouldn't be flying a football team to Seattle, CBU, or Utah Tech.

Sounds like they are hiring from Sam Houston, just not the head guy