Expected., Pitt vs Wake with nothing on the line. This is why they need to autobid champions into the playoffs. IF we had at least an 8 team playoffs where the winner of each power5 gets in no matter what. It automatically creates a reason for people to watch that game.

Championship game ratings are out
SEC: 15.2 million viewers
Big Ten: 11.7 million
Big 12: 8.0 million
Pac-12: 4.2 million
AAC: 3.4 million
ACC: 2.6 million


https://showbuzzdaily.com/articles/skedb...-2021.html

Not surprising given the lack of CFP implications for the ACC CCG. The Pac 12 game also lacked CFP implications, but did not have to go head-to-head with a game that did.

must've missed the memo ...
going forward ...
is big12 minus texas & oklahoma still considered elite ...

FLAGSHIP PRODUCT

I agree. You really need to have at least one of the teams ranked in the top 6 or so to pull in some eyeballs. Plus, going against the B1G Championship that featured #2 didn't help any. It is too bad FOX doesn't want to have the B1G Championship in the "Big Noon" slot.

I boycott the SEC in viewership all season long. But I did break the boycott temporarily to watch Clarke County Correctional get throttled by Bama. Terrific. Worth every second. No regrets.

(12-09-2021 09:33 AM)green Wrote:  must've missed the memo ...
going forward ...
is big12 minus texas & oklahoma still considered elite ...

FLAGSHIP PRODUCT

The BXII is really going to miss Texas' 5 to 7 wins every year for the past decade.

(12-09-2021 10:31 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(12-09-2021 09:33 AM)green Wrote:  must've missed the memo ...
going forward ...
is big12 minus texas & oklahoma still considered elite ...

FLAGSHIP PRODUCT

The BXII is really going to miss Texas' 5 to 7 wins drawing power (FIFY) every year for the past decade.

it’s the talent that brings in the money ...

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(12-09-2021 08:39 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  Expected., Pitt vs Wake with nothing on the line. This is why they need to autobid champions into the playoffs. IF we had at least an 8 team playoffs where the winner of each power5 gets in no matter what. It automatically creates a reason for people to watch that game.

Championship game ratings are out
SEC: 15.2 million viewers
Big Ten: 11.7 million
Big 12: 8.0 million
Pac-12: 4.2 million
AAC: 3.4 million
ACC: 2.6 million


https://showbuzzdaily.com/articles/skedb...-2021.html

Ouch? Seeing that even the AAC championship game drew higher ratings than the ACC Championship game, Ouch should be followed up with a Yikes!

(12-09-2021 11:42 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(12-09-2021 08:39 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  Expected., Pitt vs Wake with nothing on the line. This is why they need to autobid champions into the playoffs. IF we had at least an 8 team playoffs where the winner of each power5 gets in no matter what. It automatically creates a reason for people to watch that game.

Championship game ratings are out
SEC: 15.2 million viewers
Big Ten: 11.7 million
Big 12: 8.0 million
Pac-12: 4.2 million
AAC: 3.4 million
ACC: 2.6 million


https://showbuzzdaily.com/articles/skedb...-2021.html

Ouch? Seeing that even the AAC championship game drew higher ratings than the ACC Championship game, Ouch should be followed up with a Yikes!

Ahh .. not really. There was still drama in the AAC --- if Cincy lost, they were OUT. Other group of 5 fans were prolly rooting the Bearcats on to crack the playoffs, while other power 5 fans were rooting against the Bearcats so their team could sneak in.

So there were some reasons to tune in.

Where the ACC had absolutely ZERO drama in it.

Attendance: 57,856

Not bad. That's most of the way to a worst case scenario for attendance (BC vs Pitt is the doomsday attendance scenario). What was the casual help like in the seats? The ACC didn't seem to go down on pricing of tickets much if at all.

(12-09-2021 07:31 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Attendance: 57,856

Not bad. That's most of the way to a worst case scenario for attendance (BC vs Pitt is the doomsday attendance scenario). What was the casual help like in the seats? The ACC didn't seem to go down on pricing of tickets much if at all.

Pitt had half the stadium. Pretty evenly split between Pitt and Wake, but Wake fans only showed up for the game and didn't spend any time in the city. Didn't see any Wake fans Friday or Sunday and very little at the day of festivities. Pitt fans were everywhere in Charlotte all weekend.

Pitt is not part of any worst case scenario.

(12-09-2021 07:58 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(12-09-2021 07:31 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Attendance: 57,856

Not bad. That's most of the way to a worst case scenario for attendance (BC vs Pitt is the doomsday attendance scenario). What was the casual help like in the seats? The ACC didn't seem to go down on pricing of tickets much if at all.

Pitt had half the stadium. Pretty evenly split between Pitt and Wake, but Wake fans only showed up for the game and didn't spend any time in the city. Didn't see any Wake fans Friday or Sunday and very little at the day of festivities. Pitt fans were everywhere in Charlotte all weekend.

Pitt is not part of any worst case scenario.

Pitt is the furthest team away from the Coastal not named Miami. And if Miami is good, the national bandwagon shows up.

(12-09-2021 08:02 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(12-09-2021 07:58 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(12-09-2021 07:31 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Attendance: 57,856

Not bad. That's most of the way to a worst case scenario for attendance (BC vs Pitt is the doomsday attendance scenario). What was the casual help like in the seats? The ACC didn't seem to go down on pricing of tickets much if at all.

Pitt had half the stadium. Pretty evenly split between Pitt and Wake, but Wake fans only showed up for the game and didn't spend any time in the city. Didn't see any Wake fans Friday or Sunday and very little at the day of festivities. Pitt fans were everywhere in Charlotte all weekend.

Pitt is not part of any worst case scenario.

Pitt is the furthest team away from the Coastal not named Miami. And if Miami is good, the national bandwagon shows up.

I'd be interested to see the turnout in Charlotte for Miami, because I'm a Miami alumn as well, and I can't see them, the actual fan base, having as many as Pitt had there. Pitt has a larger and better core fan base than Miami, but Miami does have more t-shirt fans. If the game was Miami vs Wake, the attendance would have been worse, IMO.

(12-09-2021 07:12 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  

(12-09-2021 11:42 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(12-09-2021 08:39 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  Expected., Pitt vs Wake with nothing on the line. This is why they need to autobid champions into the playoffs. IF we had at least an 8 team playoffs where the winner of each power5 gets in no matter what. It automatically creates a reason for people to watch that game.

Championship game ratings are out
SEC: 15.2 million viewers
Big Ten: 11.7 million
Big 12: 8.0 million
Pac-12: 4.2 million
AAC: 3.4 million
ACC: 2.6 million


https://showbuzzdaily.com/articles/skedb...-2021.html

Ouch? Seeing that even the AAC championship game drew higher ratings than the ACC Championship game, Ouch should be followed up with a Yikes!

Ahh .. not really. There was still drama in the AAC --- if Cincy lost, they were OUT. Other group of 5 fans were prolly rooting the Bearcats on to crack the playoffs, while other power 5 fans were rooting against the Bearcats so their team could sneak in.

So there were some reasons to tune in.

Where the ACC had absolutely ZERO drama in it.

There is no way to spin this in a positive light, NONE. Im not like some of these "sky is falling fans," but Im not a blind Accfanboy homer either. A P5 league championship game with the largest population of eyeballs of any league should not get tv ratings so bad that a G5 league championship game has ratings of almost a million more viewers. This should never happen.

I blame NCSU they take care of business against WF they are in against Pitt and you have a better attendances and probably more ratings . The championship game just due to fact NCSU is a bigger brand and school .WF did have that cool unique mesh point high octane offense but that was never going to draw eyeballs. Pitt and NCSU where the strongest ACC football teams I saw Syracuse play this season. I really did like what UVA had this year too in the coastal division but SU didn’t get to play them they had a really strong team team from the games I saw them
play. Clemson had talent and strong defense but I wasn’t impressed with them in offense especially. North Carolina state should have beaten Miss State and WF this year and Alitt defense was asleep for that game against the Mac Michigan school. Those where the ACC beat teams this year.

(12-09-2021 10:51 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(12-09-2021 08:02 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(12-09-2021 07:58 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(12-09-2021 07:31 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Attendance: 57,856

Not bad. That's most of the way to a worst case scenario for attendance (BC vs Pitt is the doomsday attendance scenario). What was the casual help like in the seats? The ACC didn't seem to go down on pricing of tickets much if at all.

Pitt had half the stadium. Pretty evenly split between Pitt and Wake, but Wake fans only showed up for the game and didn't spend any time in the city. Didn't see any Wake fans Friday or Sunday and very little at the day of festivities. Pitt fans were everywhere in Charlotte all weekend.

Pitt is not part of any worst case scenario.

Pitt is the furthest team away from the Coastal not named Miami. And if Miami is good, the national bandwagon shows up.

I'd be interested to see the turnout in Charlotte for Miami, because I'm a Miami alumn as well, and I can't see them, the actual fan base, having as many as Pitt had there. Pitt has a larger and better core fan base than Miami, but Miami does have more t-shirt fans. If the game was Miami vs Wake, the attendance would have been worse, IMO.

WF was just too small and never was going g to draw without another big anchor football opponent in the game. Pitt -NCSU should have been the game , unfortunately both teams had a WTF random lose on there records. Take away these bad loses to the Mac school or NCSU lost to Miss State or WF and you have a top game with possible playoff chances. Wf got lucky in a few of there games they should be thankful to Dino Babers of SU for be a terrible clock and game management coach they lose that game in the dome if not for a delay of game penalty on a 2poibt conversion at the end of regulation . And the WF/Army game was far too ugly on defense and when WF played Clemson they where shut down completely. Pitt had their way too with WF. WF was really the best coached team in the ACC unfortunately there are a lot of terrible football coaches in this league. SU and Gt have terrible coaches who should be fired . Miami and VT fires there coaches and FSU coach is still uncertain and too early to call and BC has really good fb coach too especially with what BC was able to do with the backup QB playing this season. I thought UVA and Duke had the strongest coaching staff and player developers in coastal division but those schools can’t recruit elite top talent they are limited. I’m not sold on any of the coaching staff of the coastal schools currently with Pitt losing whipple. I think VT and Miami are going to need to time to grow with there new coaches. Maybe UNC takes that division next season a shame UVA is losing bronco Mendelhall I think UVA was going to be on the rise they had a good well disciplined football team with a good QB . The ACC Atlantic has the best football coaches and programs imo rn in Clemson/WF/NCSU coaches who have had stability and BC looks like they have a good coach too. UofL had satterfield who I personally like and think is a top coach but he lost the trust of that fan base with losing to Kentucky and his flirting with outside job opportunities. I think Norvel is probably the the weakest coach in the Atlantic only above Dino Babers. The coastal division of the ACC I think has weaker game management and game adjustment coaches but they have the the strongest recruiting staffs of the 2 divisions. GT/Miami/UNC all have good recruiting classes and good recruiting results better then what WF/NCSU/BC and UofL are bringing in just unfortunately those coastal coaching staff are so damn weak at actually in game coaching. Clemson has Dabo who is probably the best coach in the ACC but he is losing his top man in Vernables the DC he is aways going to be able to out recruit WF/BC/NCSU but they may close the gap on him and Clemson with the lose of Vernables in actual in games coaching and game management but Dabo is solid there too. I just think Clawson is just a bit better then him in those aspects. I think next season the ACC Coastal is gone g to be wide open with all the new coaches and new QBs maybe GT can make a serious run at it but I think Geoff Collins is really really terrible. I don’t know what UNC is returning for especially with the QB position and I expect Pitt to drop down to pack with losing Pickett and Whipple. VT and Miami are going to need time . Duke will need time with there new coach and same goes for UVA maybe the cavemen get a quality coach to replace the the quality coach they just lost. Geoff Collins and GT should be able to ride in that division with all the instability at the other coastal schools football programs if he doesn’t do it next year then I think he never will .Put BC and FSu in the coastal division next year and I think they beat out anyone else In that coastal division. But they they are I. The Atlantic so they have 3 super strong stable football programs ahead of them just so hard to grow in the Atlantic. Coastal division also has the better recruiting territory too in PA/UNC/UVA/Georgia and Florida those are the best football recruiting states in the ACC . All that talent being squandered by poor coaching unfortunately . I think UVA or UNC win that division next season just don’t like Geoff Collins at all don’t like how GT looked this season and even last season. Maybes Narduzzi has learned and grew as football coach he is the longest current coastal coach now so all that experience should pay off I just think he is not an exceptional coach like what UVA had in Bronco or even as good as Duke former coach Cutclif.