Here are things if the rotation game and the designated rival game are not counted in the division standings:

Atlantic

1st NC State, WF, Clemson 5-1
4th Louisville 3-3
5th FSU 2-4
6th Syracuse 1-5
7th BC

Coastal

1st Pitt 5-1
2nd Miami 4-2
3rd VT 4-2 Head to Head loss to Miami
4th UNC 3-3
5th UVa 3-3 Head to Head loss to UNC
6th GT 2-4
7th Duke 0-6

That's a nasty tie in the Atlantic as the three beat all four other schools in the division. State would have the best Coastal win. Then Wake, then Clemson.
Clemson has the best Coastal loss, Then NC State, then WF.

Should you be allowed to represent the Atlantic if you can't beat FSU and Clemson?

(11-28-2021 08:13 PM)Statefan Wrote:  Here are things if the rotation game and the designated rival game are not counted in the division standings:

Atlantic

1st NC State, WF, Clemson 5-1
4th Louisville 3-3
5th FSU 2-4
6th Syracuse 1-5
7th BC

Coastal

1st Pitt 5-1
2nd Miami 4-2
3rd VT 4-2 Head to Head loss to Miami
4th UNC 3-3
5th UVa 3-3 Head to Head loss to UNC
6th GT 2-4
7th Duke 0-6

That's a nasty tie in the Atlantic as the three beat all four other schools in the division. State would have the best Coastal win. Then Wake, then Clemson.
Clemson has the best Coastal loss, Then NC State, then WF.

Should you be allowed to represent the Atlantic if you can't beat FSU and Clemson?

Interesting analysis.

Should you be allowed to represent the Atlantic if you can't beat Wake Forest?

(11-29-2021 08:28 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(11-28-2021 08:13 PM)Statefan Wrote:  Here are things if the rotation game and the designated rival game are not counted in the division standings:

Atlantic

1st NC State, WF, Clemson 5-1
4th Louisville 3-3
5th FSU 2-4
6th Syracuse 1-5
7th BC

Coastal

1st Pitt 5-1
2nd Miami 4-2
3rd VT 4-2 Head to Head loss to Miami
4th UNC 3-3
5th UVa 3-3 Head to Head loss to UNC
6th GT 2-4
7th Duke 0-6

That's a nasty tie in the Atlantic as the three beat all four other schools in the division. State would have the best Coastal win. Then Wake, then Clemson.
Clemson has the best Coastal loss, Then NC State, then WF.

Should you be allowed to represent the Atlantic if you can't beat FSU and Clemson?

Interesting analysis.

Should you be allowed to represent the Atlantic if you can't beat Wake Forest?

Of course.

For the Big Ten:

East:
5-1 Michigan (lost to Michigan St)
5-1 Michigan State (lost to Ohio State)
5-1 Ohio State (lost to Michigan)
3-3 Penn State (lost to Michigan, Michigan St and Ohio State)
2-4 Maryland
1-5 Rutgers
0-6 Indiana

West:
5-1 Wisconsin
4-2 Iowa (in the CCG)
4-2 Minnesota
4-2 Purdue
3-3 Illinois
1-5 Nebraska
0-6 Northwestern

Iowa played Indiana, Maryland and Penn State OOD
Minnesota had Maryland, Indiana and Ohio State
Wisconsin drew Rutgers, Penn State and Michigan

Heck of a way to determine who plays in the CCG. I've always felt the division round robin should rule. But, then, how would you pick the East winner?

(11-30-2021 02:24 PM)ken d Wrote:  For the Big Ten:

East:
5-1 Michigan (lost to Michigan St)
5-1 Michigan State (lost to Ohio State)
5-1 Ohio State (lost to Michigan)
3-3 Penn State (lost to Michigan, Michigan St and Ohio State)
2-4 Maryland
1-5 Rutgers
0-6 Indiana

West:
5-1 Wisconsin
4-2 Iowa (in the CCG)
4-2 Minnesota
4-2 Purdue
3-3 Illinois
1-5 Nebraska
0-6 Northwestern

Iowa played Indiana, Maryland and Penn State OOD
Minneota had Maryland, Indiana and Ohio State
Wisconsin drew Rutgers, Penn State and Michigan

Heck of a way to determine who plays in the CCG. I've always felt the division round robin should rule. But, then, how would you pick the East winner?

Eventually with ties you get down to rankings and then a coin flip in the ACC.