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RE: Lincoln Riley to Southern Cal/Oklahoma to target Kliff Kingsbury
(11-28-2021 08:46 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote: I think this has to do more with USC than Oklahoma heading to this SEC
https://csnbbs.com/thread-931654.html
Quote:USC: location, location location plus their branding helps a lot. California is the 5th largest economy in the world with the help of techy companies in Silicon Valley. California just has a habit of putting players into the NFL. If USC doesn't become a national player again with all of these built in advantages, they probably never will again. Just a week ago, a hs game featured two teams with nearly 60 players of D1 interest.
That was this season's Santa Ana Mater Dei vs St. John Bosco's game.
https://www.cbssports.com/high-school/fo...e-with-at/
There were there were 60 players on the two teams that had received at least one FBS offer. Mater Dei is the No. 1 ranked team in the nation and St. John Bosco the No. 8 team in the nation. The Trinity league has three of the top eight teams in the nation.
The No. 2 recruit in California, running back Maleek Brown, was committed to Oklahoma, but announced yesterday that "this changes everything." The No. 2 recruit nationally in 2023, California quarterback Malachi Nelson, decommitted from Okahoma yesterday. There are more to come.
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RE: Lincoln Riley to Southern Cal/Oklahoma to target Kliff Kingsbury
(11-29-2021 08:22 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote: (11-29-2021 07:59 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote: NILs in LA, which college player would move the meter in LA?. Rams, Dodgers and Lakers are all good. Chargers, Angels and Chippers arent bad, so why would you spend money on an unknown college player unless you cant afford a real LA star?
Passion = donations and NILs.
It's not about the competition with other sports teams locally.
It's the fact that Los Angeles is the world's center for media marketing and talent agencies.
This isn't about some local car dealer NIL deals. This is about access to global marketing campaigns that go far beyond LA. Stop thinking locally and start thinking globally.
Think of all of the reality TV show stars wherever they're from (which is probably the fame level equivalent of a revenue sport college athlete). A disproportionate number of them move to LA because that's where they can leverage their newfound fame into marketing deals: paid Instagram posts, paid Tweets, etc.
USC players just have to walk down the street to the meet the largest concentration of sports agents in the country. USC players just have to walk down the street to speak to the marketing representatives of thousands of companies. USC players just have to walk down the street to be a part of a top level film shoot or photo shoot for an ad campaign. Just as finance people move to NYC and tech people move to the Bay Area and a handful of other cities, people who want media stardom (which is the point of NIL) move to LA because that's where the ecosystem and talent are in the sector.
Plus, as someone else mentioned above, when USC is playing well, they are legitimately bigger than any other sports team in LA besides the Lakers. That's a HUGE amount of unique power for a college sports program.
I don't think people are quite comprehending the magnitude of opportunities that LA and USC specifically provide here with respect to NIL. Anyone that isn't a USC fan on this forum should be VERY scared if/when that program rights the ship.
As a UCLA fan, I am fully aware of what USC will become when they right the ship. I am actually looking forward to it. USC will make everyone else in the conference better in football. Washington has to hire a good coach. UCLA led the conference in scoring and with Riley coming into USC, they will need to fix the defense. All of these Pac-12 schools are going to need to step up their game in football.
Both UCLA and USC have huge advantages for NIL opportunities for all of their athletes. I think the Dodgers are probably the most popular team in LA, followed by the Lakers. USC football is popular when it is going well, as is UCLA basketball. The Villanova-UCLA game a few weeks ago brought in a lot of celebrities and dignitaries. The Rams and Chargers could cut into the popularity eventually if they can win consistently.
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RE: Lincoln Riley to Southern Cal/Oklahoma to target Kliff Kingsbury
Well there's a chance I'll be living in SoCal starting for the next football season, so it might be a good time to see some awesome college football in person.
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RE: Lincoln Riley to Southern Cal/Oklahoma to target Kliff Kingsbury
(11-28-2021 06:13 PM)johnbragg Wrote: (11-28-2021 06:10 PM)Phlipper33 Wrote:
Old Big East fans: Aww, did TCU not get the guy who signed with them, because a better spot opened somewhere else? Gee, that's a shame.
That is a shame. But sometimes a better offer comes along and you just HAVE to take it.
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RE: Lincoln Riley to Southern Cal/Oklahoma to target Kliff Kingsbury
(11-29-2021 04:09 PM)Gamenole Wrote: As a South Carolina fan, this story is very alarming -
https://247sports.com/Article/Oklahoma-c...176683577/
Stay where you are Mr. Beamer! Oklahoma is in transition mode with conference affiliation and there is no reason you can't win with the Gamecocks.
I don't see a lot of success for the Sooners in the future.
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RE: Lincoln Riley to Southern Cal/Oklahoma to target Kliff Kingsbury
(11-29-2021 04:09 PM)Gamenole Wrote: As a South Carolina fan, this story is very alarming -
https://247sports.com/Article/Oklahoma-c...176683577/
Historic blue blood programs hire established coaches. That's not young Beamer or Heupel. I'm reasonably certain Dabo will get a call and if he's a no then Venables is likely. And Bob Stoops is serving as interim for the bowl game. Hmm....?
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RE: Lincoln Riley to Southern Cal/Oklahoma to target Kliff Kingsbury
kind of amazing to see. Shades of Barry Alvarez....
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RE: Lincoln Riley to Southern Cal/Oklahoma to target Kliff Kingsbury
(11-29-2021 04:18 PM)stever20 Wrote: kind of amazing to see. Shades of Barry Alvarez....
Is this someone's opinion about what should happen, or is it something OU has or will announce?
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RE: Lincoln Riley to Southern Cal/Oklahoma to target Kliff Kingsbury
(11-29-2021 05:50 PM)ken d Wrote: (11-29-2021 04:18 PM)stever20 Wrote: kind of amazing to see. Shades of Barry Alvarez....
Is this someone's opinion about what should happen, or is it something OU has or will announce?
he is interim head coach for the bowl game.
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RE: Lincoln Riley to Southern Cal/Oklahoma to target Kliff Kingsbury
(11-29-2021 04:01 PM)UpStreamRedTeam Wrote: (11-28-2021 06:13 PM)johnbragg Wrote: (11-28-2021 06:10 PM)Phlipper33 Wrote:
Old Big East fans: Aww, did TCU not get the guy who signed with them, because a better spot opened somewhere else? Gee, that's a shame.
That is a shame. But sometimes a better offer comes along and you just HAVE to take it.
I guarantee to you that Dykes isnt being looked at by OU.
He will not even be interviewed.
Dont believe everything you read, especially on twitter.
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RE: Lincoln Riley to Southern Cal/Oklahoma to target Kliff Kingsbury
(11-29-2021 04:16 PM)JRsec Wrote: (11-29-2021 04:09 PM)Gamenole Wrote: As a South Carolina fan, this story is very alarming -
https://247sports.com/Article/Oklahoma-c...176683577/
Historic blue blood programs hire established coaches. That's not young Beamer or Heupel. I'm reasonably certain Dabo will get a call and if he's a no then Venables is likely. And Bob Stoops is serving as interim for the bowl game. Hmm....?
I hope you're right, that's what I was thinking too and really wasn't concerned until these stories started popping up today. It would be a big gamble to hand the reins of one of the nations premier programs to a head coach who produced 1 better-than-expected season at South Carolina with Muschamp's players. Not that I'm unhappy with 6-6 at all, I hope he stays and I'm excited to see what he can build in Columbia with time.
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RE: Lincoln Riley to Southern Cal/Oklahoma to target Kliff Kingsbury
So USC is a better job than LSU despite what the ESPN pundits kept telling me.
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RE: Lincoln Riley to Southern Cal/Oklahoma to target Kliff Kingsbury
This is wild.
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RE: Lincoln Riley to Southern Cal/Oklahoma to target Kliff Kingsbury
(11-29-2021 07:20 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:
This is wild.
Well, if true, that certainly addresses the cost of living change between LA and Norman (not that I thought he would have cared anyway).
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RE: Lincoln Riley to Southern Cal/Oklahoma to target Kliff Kingsbury
(11-29-2021 07:20 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:
This is wild.
I thought that most college football programs were broke and had no money at all for player compensation?
How much was every fired coach's buyout this year?
How much did Michigan State just agree to pay its head coach?
How much did James Franklin just get from PSU?
What will LSU pay its next head coach?
How much is being paid out for facilities upgrades each year?
Etc...etc...etc....
That old argument is hogwash.
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RE: Lincoln Riley to Southern Cal/Oklahoma to target Kliff Kingsbury
(11-29-2021 04:18 PM)stever20 Wrote: kind of amazing to see. Shades of Barry Alvarez....
He looks different. I wouldn’t have recognized him.
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RE: Lincoln Riley to Southern Cal/Oklahoma to target Kliff Kingsbury
(11-29-2021 04:16 PM)JRsec Wrote: (11-29-2021 04:09 PM)Gamenole Wrote: As a South Carolina fan, this story is very alarming -
https://247sports.com/Article/Oklahoma-c...176683577/
Historic blue blood programs hire established coaches. That's not young Beamer or Heupel. I'm reasonably certain Dabo will get a call and if he's a no then Venables is likely. And Bob Stoops is serving as interim for the bowl game. Hmm....?
I don’t understand this logic at all? What has Venables established as a head coach? Also, that’s not true anyway. When Oklahoma hired Stoops, he was a career assistant. When they replaced him with Riley, he was also a career assistant.
That doesn’t mean that Shane Beamer is going to get that job but if he doesn’t get it, it won’t be because he’s too green for a traditional blue blood like Oklahoma.
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RE: Lincoln Riley to Southern Cal/Oklahoma to target Kliff Kingsbury
(11-29-2021 07:20 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:
This is wild.
No, this is LA. I just assumed they were buying him a home. USC is loaded with money. I hope he get what he wants with a $6 million dollar budget for a home.
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RE: Lincoln Riley to Southern Cal/Oklahoma to target Kliff Kingsbury
(11-29-2021 04:16 PM)JRsec Wrote: (11-29-2021 04:09 PM)Gamenole Wrote: As a South Carolina fan, this story is very alarming -
https://247sports.com/Article/Oklahoma-c...176683577/
Historic blue blood programs hire established coaches. That's not young Beamer or Heupel. I'm reasonably certain Dabo will get a call and if he's a no then Venables is likely. And Bob Stoops is serving as interim for the bowl game. Hmm....?
I don't know, JR, Ohio State hired Ryan Day and I'm pretty sure they qualify as a blue blood.
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