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RE: Football offseason
(01-07-2022 12:30 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(01-07-2022 11:45 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(01-06-2022 12:44 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  Yes the university should definitely have classes on marketing your brand image. Lump that into the sports management major and we can keep talking about how we’re #1 ranked in that program nationally. I doubt you could make it a complete major (at least legitimately, we don’t want to be UNC).

I think you could have a major without resorting to exam questions like, “How many points do you get for a 3-point basket?”

What are the choices?

A. 2
B. 3
C. 4
D. none of the above

C'mon, they need a sporting chance?

or E. All of the above
01-07-2022 02:11 PM
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RE: Football offseason
(01-07-2022 02:11 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  
(01-07-2022 12:30 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(01-07-2022 11:45 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(01-06-2022 12:44 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  Yes the university should definitely have classes on marketing your brand image. Lump that into the sports management major and we can keep talking about how we’re #1 ranked in that program nationally. I doubt you could make it a complete major (at least legitimately, we don’t want to be UNC).

I think you could have a major without resorting to exam questions like, “How many points do you get for a 3-point basket?”

What are the choices?

A. 2
B. 3
C. 4
D. none of the above

C'mon, they need a sporting chance?

or E. All of the above

Actually, the answer can be A or B.

https://sports.yahoo.com/utah-state-alle...42384.html
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RE: Football offseason
(12-29-2021 09:41 AM)wrysal Wrote:  
(12-29-2021 12:34 AM)Ourland Wrote:  
(12-28-2021 05:13 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  Yet another one bites the dust...

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Rice RB Khalan Griffin has entered the Transfer Portal.

Awful news.

I disagree. I don't know if it was because they got him too bulked up or what, but he showed absolutely no burst last year (on the rare occasions where he had a hole to run through).

Griffin announced his commitment to Lamar U via Twitter
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RE: Football offseason
(01-07-2022 09:52 PM)RiceOwls2019 Wrote:  
(12-29-2021 09:41 AM)wrysal Wrote:  
(12-29-2021 12:34 AM)Ourland Wrote:  
(12-28-2021 05:13 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  Yet another one bites the dust...

Quote:The Roost
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Rice RB Khalan Griffin has entered the Transfer Portal.

Awful news.

I disagree. I don't know if it was because they got him too bulked up or what, but he showed absolutely no burst last year (on the rare occasions where he had a hole to run through).

Griffin announced his commitment to Lamar U via Twitter

Academics?
01-07-2022 09:56 PM
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RE: Football offseason
(01-07-2022 09:56 PM)dragon2owl Wrote:  
(01-07-2022 09:52 PM)RiceOwls2019 Wrote:  
(12-29-2021 09:41 AM)wrysal Wrote:  
(12-29-2021 12:34 AM)Ourland Wrote:  
(12-28-2021 05:13 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  Yet another one bites the dust...

Awful news.

I disagree. I don't know if it was because they got him too bulked up or what, but he showed absolutely no burst last year (on the rare occasions where he had a hole to run through).

Griffin announced his commitment to Lamar U via Twitter

Academics?

Probably fan support and a coaching staff that will play him.
01-08-2022 12:34 PM
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(12-03-2021 05:23 PM)Middle Ages Wrote:  OL Cole Garcia in the portal. How many is that?

Offered by Jackson State.
01-12-2022 02:04 PM
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Notice anything different?

In prior years, seems like our portal transfers were to programs that were a step up (Alldredge to Mizzou, for example).

Now they are going places that are a step down.

That's just subjective impression, not empirical study, so somebody like Walt or WRC can refute if they want.
01-12-2022 02:15 PM
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(01-12-2022 02:15 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Notice anything different?

In prior years, seems like our portal transfers were to programs that were a step up (Alldredge to Mizzou, for example).

Now they are going places that are a step down.

That's just subjective impression, not empirical study, so somebody like Walt or WRC can refute if they want.

I guess the question then is it 1) so bad I'd rather play anywhere else 2) coaches gently encouraging transfers to open up scholarships. If it's 1 sure demonstrates that the value of the issuing institution name on the degree doesn't mean much (obviously not for grad transfers) to ballers.
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Actually Jackson St. is generating quite a hall with its recruiting class.
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(01-12-2022 02:15 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Notice anything different?

In prior years, seems like our portal transfers were to programs that were a step up (Alldredge to Mizzou, for example).

Now they are going places that are a step down.

That's just subjective impression, not empirical study, so somebody like Walt or WRC can refute if they want.

1. Aldredge was only last year, and he was a first team all-conference player, and among the national leaders in TFL.

2. Almost all the guys transferring this year, though many were starters at Rice, were not exactly highly coveted.
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Nobody wants to come here and play.
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(01-13-2022 01:55 AM)Ourland Wrote:  Nobody wants to come here and play.

...except those that actual do.
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(01-12-2022 04:46 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  Almost all the guys transferring this year, though many were starters at Rice, were not exactly highly coveted.

So, what does that say about our recruiting?
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I can't believe Jovani Johnson is sticking around. He deserves to be on the field somewhere.
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RB Coach Robbie Picazo is taking a job with the Houston Texans as an offensive assistant (with Lovie Smith's new staff).

It seems like the football coaching staff needs to be updated since there also isn't a current recruiting coordinator.
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(02-21-2022 03:36 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  RB Coach Robbie Picazo is taking a job with the Houston Texans as an offensive assistant (with Lovie Smith's new staff).

It seems like the football coaching staff needs to be updated since there also isn't a current recruiting coordinator.

I'd typically agree, but I doubt there's anyone at this point who is willing to board a listing ship. I also doubt that there's anyone who can really help this program. Bloomgren is ruining his staff's careers.

Picazo must know someone, because he has no business at the professional level, but I'm glad he's gone.
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Maybe we'll get lucky and find a Lembo-type who needs a 1-year contract to stay in the mix.
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RE: Football offseason
(02-21-2022 05:46 PM)Ourland Wrote:  
(02-21-2022 03:36 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  RB Coach Robbie Picazo is taking a job with the Houston Texans as an offensive assistant (with Lovie Smith's new staff).

It seems like the football coaching staff needs to be updated since there also isn't a current recruiting coordinator.

I'd typically agree, but I doubt there's anyone at this point who is willing to board a listing ship. I also doubt that there's anyone who can really help this program. Bloomgren is ruining his staff's careers.

Picazo must know someone, because he has no business at the professional level, but I'm glad he's gone.

The connection is likely Pep Hamilton, the Texans' new OC. Hamilton was the WRs coach and then QB/offensive coordinator during some of the years that Picazo played at Stanford.

This is definitely an upgrade for both parties, IMO. Picazo gets to jump off a sinking ship and a coaching career reset, albeit for a demotion in title and potentially pay. Rice sheds an assistant coach that could not succeed at coaching the position he played in college, hence him getting moved from QB coach to RB coach after two seasons at Rice.
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I don't believe that any of Bloomgren's assistants are as good as he originally claimed. This is the worst staff in 35 years, and none of them can recruit. Bloom is a complete amateur.
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(02-23-2022 03:53 PM)Ourland Wrote:  I don't believe that any of Bloomgren's assistants are as good as he originally claimed. This is the worst staff in 35 years, and none of them can recruit. Bloom is a complete amateur.

They can't recruit Texas because they don't have Texas ties. And regardless of how much Rice recruits nationally (which I totally support), if Rice can't recruit Texas then it really doesn't matter.

I do think the out-of-state recruiting would be more effective if Rice concentrated on a few areas where members of the staff had significant contacts. Based on where recruits are coming from, it appears to be more a scattershot approach than a focused one.

To my way of thinking, an ideal Rice staff would be:

3 coordinators (offense, defense, special teams) - 1 coordinator with strong California connections, 1 coordinator with strong Florida/southeast connections, 1 coordinator with strong Texas connections (if the special teams coordinator is the one with Texas connections, make him the recruiting coordinator as well, the old Coach Kidd role)

4 position coaches who have been a state or regional officers in the Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas, and Oklahoma HS coaches' associations

2 HS coaches with strong Texas connections, one in SE Texas and one in the DFW Metroplex.

1 holdover coach from the prior regime, to maintain continuity

And as many of those coaches as possible should be former Rice players. I'm fine with all position coaches being hired from the HS coaching ranks. HS coaches really teach more than coaches at any other levels. NCAA level is all about recruiting, NFL is all about talent evaluation and drafting.

As far as total staff size, including strength and conditioning, graduate assistants, various consultants and administrators, the P5 average roughly 30 per team, AAC 25, remainder of G5 21, per https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...istencies/
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