(11-25-2021 11:44 PM)MvETigers Wrote:  

(11-25-2021 01:04 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(11-25-2021 12:18 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(11-24-2021 03:06 PM)Unbreakable04 Wrote:  

(11-24-2021 10:34 AM)tpaw09 Wrote:  I think this game might be sit where you want game.. many factors with the holidays, night game, fickle fans and gunsmoke reruns on

Also factoring in is our current coaching staff driving the program into the ground. There will be < 15k fans there Saturday night, maybe even < 10k. I will be in attendance like every home game, however, we will look back on this game in a few years as the "Tulane" game like we've fawned over the "ECU" game when the program was nosediving.

Sorry, if we cannot beat a 2-8 football team (who have beaten the Mighty Morgan State Bears & USF Bulls) we need a complete overhaul of the coaching staff. There will be nothing to buy into after that. I feel bad for the players - they are the ones being failed, yet we allowed them to make an emotional decision to hire a player's coach. Quite the conundrum.

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So he's been here 10 years, and has only posted on average 22 times PER YEAR.

Has posted 16 times in the past 6 weeks and ALL are attacking Silverfield.

Can You Say

[troll]

I can... but I won't. Did you ever stop to think that maybe the way to look at that is: Man.... if the coach is bad enough to draw out a member of the board that only posts 22 times per year, maybe he is just THAT BAD.

You probably should, because if you think his coaching is "that bad" you don't know much about football.

It's amazing how a coach that can lose an All-American some even considered a dark horse Heisman candidate the week prior to the season, then lose one of their best players after the second game. Have to have a FOUR WEEK complete shutdown of the program in which the athletes and coaches weren't even allowed in the athletic facilities, overcomes all that and finishes 8-3 and wins a bowl game can in one season totally forget how to coach. At the same time bring in two of the highest ranked recruiting classes in history with his third on the way.

This season we have had 40 players in our two deep miss playing time, some multiple games. We've had to play 24 freshman, more than any other team in our conference. We have such a good reputation among other players that we have SEC scholarship players transferring to be walkons at Memphis.

I won't call them a troll, but I will say they are likely clueless or have an agenda.

We’ll said!!!

(11-24-2021 06:19 PM)tcountytigerfan Wrote:  

(11-24-2021 02:09 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Shoulda never fired Larry Porter, the kids played hard for him.

Real revisionist history there. Those teams were getting rocked weekly. Players eventually (and understandably, in that particular case) rolled over.

There were plenty of fans who believed Larry needed more time. Imagine where our program would be if we had given it to him…

Seems like every time the “players haven’t quit” thing comes up the coach eventually gets fired within a year. Maybe we are the outlier.

(11-25-2021 10:21 AM)tcountytigerfan Wrote:  

(11-25-2021 12:28 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(11-24-2021 06:33 PM)tcountytigerfan Wrote:  

(11-24-2021 02:38 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(11-24-2021 10:11 AM)tcountytigerfan Wrote:  Plenty to debate on the coaches performance this season, but I’ll hang my hat on how the players have responded on the field. Through injuries, heartbreaking losses and impressive wins, the players have never quit on this staff. They’re still bought in. The effort is still there every week. Couple of things play out differently, and this team is still an 8-9 win team despite the rash of injuries.

Time will tell on this coaching staff, but I’m content that the guy in charge is still the right one based on how the players continue to leave it all out on the field.

See y’all Saturday.

Go Tigers!

Ya, that is nice. I have employees that are loved by their coworkers, that does mean they would make a great CEO...

Huh? Bad analogy. Anyway, being able to continuously motivate your players, especially in a tough season like this, is pretty damn vital to being a good coach. Lots of other factors to being a good coach, but this is so obviously important that it simply can’t be argued. Great motivator doesn’t = great coach, but a great coach will be a great motivator.

I appreciate you call it a bad analogy and then go on to make the exact point of the analogy…

Great motivator is just one factor of a good coach/CEO but there are lots of other factors that are needed

It’s a bad analogy because it assumes coaches and players are equals (co-workers), ignoring the fact that the “CEO” in your analogy (CRS) was already the #2 in the company (Asst Head Coach), i.e., he’s proven himself internally, and he has the experience (including NFL) that all point to his qualifications, far beyond you’re ridiculous implication that he was hired because the players like him. So he had the resume and track record that all point to being a good hire.

He (just like any HC) will ultimately be held accountable to results on the field. My point is a simple one - in a year where everything that could go wrong, did go wrong, the team held it together and continue to grind - a great indicator to the leadership of our coach. Not an easy feat, and a good sign that we do, in fact, have a competent (perhaps even a good) head coach.

It is not meant to be an exact parallel but is highlighting a larger point. The point simply being that just because someone is well liked and people “stay motivated” for him does not mean he is great at leading the company or team at large.

(11-26-2021 12:56 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  Seems like every time the “players haven’t quit” thing comes up the coach eventually gets fired within a year. Maybe we are the outlier.

we've heard the rumors of players "quitting" on norvell before.

(11-26-2021 12:56 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  Seems like every time the “players haven’t quit” thing comes up the coach eventually gets fired within a year. Maybe we are the outlier.

Got it - so I guess we should root for players laying down since that’s a sure-fire sign that the coaches are doing it right.

This is a great way to be a fan - no matter the circumstance, the coaching must suck unless we go undefeated. Players not quitting = coach is about to get fired. Players quitting = ??? A raise? You tell me.

Good grief people.

(11-26-2021 10:04 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-24-2021 06:19 PM)tcountytigerfan Wrote:  

(11-24-2021 02:09 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Shoulda never fired Larry Porter, the kids played hard for him.

Real revisionist history there. Those teams were getting rocked weekly. Players eventually (and understandably, in that particular case) rolled over.

There were plenty of fans who believed Larry needed more time. Imagine where our program would be if we had given it to him…

Again, not reality. There were fans hanging on after year 1, but there were none calling for a third year. So there’s no need to imagine. School did the right thing.

There were, however, dumb fans calling for Fuente’s firing after year 2. I’m sure many are the same dumb fans calling for RS. I guess the point is, when it comes to this board, there are a lot of trolls or dumb fans. Which are you?

(11-25-2021 12:18 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(11-24-2021 03:06 PM)Unbreakable04 Wrote:  

(11-24-2021 10:34 AM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(11-24-2021 10:11 AM)tcountytigerfan Wrote:  Plenty to debate on the coaches performance this season, but I’ll hang my hat on how the players have responded on the field. Through injuries, heartbreaking losses and impressive wins, the players have never quit on this staff. They’re still bought in. The effort is still there every week. Couple of things play out differently, and this team is still an 8-9 win team despite the rash of injuries.

Time will tell on this coaching staff, but I’m content that the guy in charge is still the right one based on how the players continue to leave it all out on the field.

See y’all Saturday.

Go Tigers!

I think this game might be sit where you want game.. many factors with the holidays, night game, fickle fans and gunsmoke reruns on

Also factoring in is our current coaching staff driving the program into the ground. There will be < 15k fans there Saturday night, maybe even < 10k. I will be in attendance like every home game, however, we will look back on this game in a few years as the "Tulane" game like we've fawned over the "ECU" game when the program was nosediving.

Sorry, if we cannot beat a 2-8 football team (who have beaten the Mighty Morgan State Bears & USF Bulls) we need a complete overhaul of the coaching staff. There will be nothing to buy into after that. I feel bad for the players - they are the ones being failed, yet we allowed them to make an emotional decision to hire a player's coach. Quite the conundrum.

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So he's been here 10 years, and has only posted on average 22 times PER YEAR.

Has posted 16 times in the past 6 weeks and ALL are attacking Silverfield.

Can You Say

Truly ncrdbl detective work - I must say, for you to spend time of your life to research my post history, is quite flattering.

Not trolling - just calling it like I see it. I don't need to post here 1,000's of times throughout the year, I only hit the high level topics, and this is one that needs to be addressed. Ruin is not the guy to lead the program - we were the 3rd luckiest team in the country last year with how games broke our way based on post game win expectancy. This year he is getting exposed along with his in game coaching chops. I'll continue to say I hope I'm wrong which means the program will continue to excel, however, what I've seen with my own eyes tells me he will not make it.

The excuses are played out, EVERY coach dealt with covid pauses in 2020, EVERY coach deals with injuries, EVERY coach deals with hurdles throughout the year. What he can control is not blowing double digit leads and running the program into the ground. If he is bringing in all of this talent, why can we not see that on the field? Why are we getting railroaded by Temple? Why are we blowing 21 point leads to a CUSA team? Why are we kicking 58 yard FG's with a freshman kicker off a broken plant foot? I could go on & on with the idiotic in game decision making. If he is bringing in ALL of this talent, why isn't our coach actually coaching them up? Losing to ECU & Tulsa? With their stellar recruiting classes? We all know the answer to that, get your head out of the sand and admit he does not have it. Time to cut bait and move on from Memphis' Matt Luke. He can be a nice guy and a horrible head coach, it is ok to admit that.

The truth shall set you free.

The effort thus far tonight is leaving a lot to be desired.

(11-27-2021 08:14 PM)RCM1029 Wrote:  The effort thus far tonight is leaving a lot to be desired.

(11-24-2021 02:09 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Shoulda never fired Larry Porter, the kids played hard for him.

Exactly the point!

(11-28-2021 11:35 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-24-2021 02:09 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Shoulda never fired Larry Porter, the kids played hard for him.

Exactly the point!

What agenda do you have? Like TW said… quit the negativity around the team. Besides always bring the team down, what can we do as fans to help. Your answer is fire the coach which not realistic nor do you any other solution. Keep watching the game from your couch

We beat a now 2-10 Tulane team, by 5 points, with a +4 turnover advantage and Ruin cries. If that doesn’t get the fan base excited for the future, I don’t know what will!

Tiger Lane has been a ghost town the past 4 home games, the guy is torpedoing the program and we’ll have an empty LB next season. It’s truly remarkable how disinterested he has made the fan base in less than 2 years. Tiger football used to be an exciting event, Norvell sold the City & Program, Ruin is in permanent hiding and has closed off the program.

When the powers that be find the intestinal fortitude to make the right decision (firing [/u]Ruin) it will be 2 years too late. Hello rebuild into 2025.

(11-26-2021 04:24 PM)tcountytigerfan Wrote:  

(11-26-2021 12:56 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  Seems like every time the “players haven’t quit” thing comes up the coach eventually gets fired within a year. Maybe we are the outlier.

Got it - so I guess we should root for players laying down since that’s a sure-fire sign that the coaches are doing it right.

This is a great way to be a fan - no matter the circumstance, the coaching must suck unless we go undefeated. Players not quitting = coach is about to get fired. Players quitting = ??? A raise? You tell me.

Good grief people.

What??! You mean Eagleonpar’s logic doesn’t make any sense? Oh my gosh! It should make perfect sense to any idiot!!!

(11-26-2021 04:36 PM)tcountytigerfan Wrote:  

(11-26-2021 10:04 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-24-2021 06:19 PM)tcountytigerfan Wrote:  

(11-24-2021 02:09 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Shoulda never fired Larry Porter, the kids played hard for him.

Real revisionist history there. Those teams were getting rocked weekly. Players eventually (and understandably, in that particular case) rolled over.

There were plenty of fans who believed Larry needed more time. Imagine where our program would be if we had given it to him…

Again, not reality. There were fans hanging on after year 1, but there were none calling for a third year. So there’s no need to imagine. School did the right thing.

There were, however, dumb fans calling for Fuente’s firing after year 2. I’m sure many are the same dumb fans calling for RS. I guess the point is, when it comes to this board, there are a lot of trolls or dumb fans. Which are you?

My gosh. There is simply no comparing Porter as a coach to Silverfield. I mean, Porter was a great player and recruiter and I respect him, but his first game as a coach, we were called for illegal formation the first 3 offensive plays!! We could barely warm up pregame.

(11-26-2021 11:42 PM)Unbreakable04 Wrote:  

(11-25-2021 12:18 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(11-24-2021 03:06 PM)Unbreakable04 Wrote:  

(11-24-2021 10:34 AM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(11-24-2021 10:11 AM)tcountytigerfan Wrote:  Plenty to debate on the coaches performance this season, but I’ll hang my hat on how the players have responded on the field. Through injuries, heartbreaking losses and impressive wins, the players have never quit on this staff. They’re still bought in. The effort is still there every week. Couple of things play out differently, and this team is still an 8-9 win team despite the rash of injuries.

Time will tell on this coaching staff, but I’m content that the guy in charge is still the right one based on how the players continue to leave it all out on the field.

See y’all Saturday.

Go Tigers!

I think this game might be sit where you want game.. many factors with the holidays, night game, fickle fans and gunsmoke reruns on

Also factoring in is our current coaching staff driving the program into the ground. There will be < 15k fans there Saturday night, maybe even < 10k. I will be in attendance like every home game, however, we will look back on this game in a few years as the "Tulane" game like we've fawned over the "ECU" game when the program was nosediving.

Sorry, if we cannot beat a 2-8 football team (who have beaten the Mighty Morgan State Bears & USF Bulls) we need a complete overhaul of the coaching staff. There will be nothing to buy into after that. I feel bad for the players - they are the ones being failed, yet we allowed them to make an emotional decision to hire a player's coach. Quite the conundrum.

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So he's been here 10 years, and has only posted on average 22 times PER YEAR.

Has posted 16 times in the past 6 weeks and ALL are attacking Silverfield.

Can You Say

Truly ncrdbl detective work - I must say, for you to spend time of your life to research my post history, is quite flattering.

Not trolling - just calling it like I see it. I don't need to post here 1,000's of times throughout the year, I only hit the high level topics, and this is one that needs to be addressed. Ruin is not the guy to lead the program - we were the 3rd luckiest team in the country last year with how games broke our way based on post game win expectancy. This year he is getting exposed along with his in game coaching chops. I'll continue to say I hope I'm wrong which means the program will continue to excel, however, what I've seen with my own eyes tells me he will not make it.

The excuses are played out, EVERY coach dealt with covid pauses in 2020, EVERY coach deals with injuries, EVERY coach deals with hurdles throughout the year. What he can control is not blowing double digit leads and running the program into the ground. If he is bringing in all of this talent, why can we not see that on the field? Why are we getting railroaded by Temple? Why are we blowing 21 point leads to a CUSA team? Why are we kicking 58 yard FG's with a freshman kicker off a broken plant foot? I could go on & on with the idiotic in game decision making. If he is bringing in ALL of this talent, why isn't our coach actually coaching them up? Losing to ECU & Tulsa? With their stellar recruiting classes? We all know the answer to that, get your head out of the sand and admit he does not have it. Time to cut bait and move on from Memphis' Matt Luke. He can be a nice guy and a horrible head coach, it is ok to admit that.

The truth shall set you free.

Do not flatter yourself, your join date and number of post are listed on each post.

You want to know what i spend my time researching.

Jack A Adams Sr a Memphis airline pilot who retired from the airlines and started a used aircraft company down at Twinkletown Airstrip in Walls. He spent a lot of his time flying kids to burn centers across the US.

He also owned the Jack A Adams Aircraft special a turbine entry in the 1969 Indy 500. He had one of the first turbine powered Indy Car even beating out Andy Granatelli's STP turbines. But his car was outlawed due to USAC's fear that the braking system was not comparable to its power output back in 1966.



THAT is what i spend my time researching. Researching and documenting the history of motorsports in Memphis. Drop by my Memphis Racing History Facebook page and the Memphisracinghistory.com site.

(11-26-2021 10:04 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-24-2021 06:19 PM)tcountytigerfan Wrote:  

(11-24-2021 02:09 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Shoulda never fired Larry Porter, the kids played hard for him.

Real revisionist history there. Those teams were getting rocked weekly. Players eventually (and understandably, in that particular case) rolled over.

There were plenty of fans who believed Larry needed more time. Imagine where our program would be if we had given it to him…

Name 5 fans other than your other 4 personalities.

(11-28-2021 11:35 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-24-2021 02:09 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Shoulda never fired Larry Porter, the kids played hard for him.

Exactly the point!

All I know is I gave that staff a really good lead and video on a player at Arlington Martin, one of the best high school football programs in Texas and they would not even call to get a foot in the door with the coach and the school. This is the same school that Myles Garrett went to. I didn't even get a thank you email.

(11-28-2021 02:45 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(11-26-2021 10:04 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-24-2021 06:19 PM)tcountytigerfan Wrote:  

(11-24-2021 02:09 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Shoulda never fired Larry Porter, the kids played hard for him.

Real revisionist history there. Those teams were getting rocked weekly. Players eventually (and understandably, in that particular case) rolled over.

There were plenty of fans who believed Larry needed more time. Imagine where our program would be if we had given it to him…

Name 5 fans other than your other 4 personalities.

If you make it worth my time I will absolutely go back through the archives and find you the names. TG4 was ready to fight people over Porter at the time. Quit posting on this board after Porter was fired.

(11-28-2021 11:35 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-24-2021 02:09 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Shoulda never fired Larry Porter, the kids played hard for him.

Exactly the point!

Silverfield is light years ahead of Porter in recruiting. Porter's first class was 2010. Memphis class was ranked #71 overall and #6 in the AAC. That was followed up by 2011 when we were ranked #77 overall and #7 in the AAC. How quickly we forget. Obviously a call to the head coach at Arlington Martin was going to be a total waste of time for this recruiting juggernaut.